A GOP congressmen has read Mueller's unredacted report - his comments

[Bladewire]

https://twitter.com/justinamash

GOP Congressman @justinamash, who has read the redacted Mueller Report, concludes Barr has deliberately misrepresented the Report’s findings & Trump has committed impeachable offenses. He lays out his reasoning in this thread. Let’s hope he can help his colleagues grow a spine.

"Here are my principal conclusions:

1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report.

2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.

3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances.

4. Few members of Congress have read the report."

[Bladewire]

GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment' | The Hill

A Michigan Republican and member of the House Freedom Caucus broke with his party Saturday in a rare series of tweets accusing President Trump of "impeachable conduct."

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted Saturday that the president's actions to potentially obstruct the now-shuttered special counsel investigation warrant impeachment by the House. He also accused Attorney General William Barr of "deliberately misrepresenting" Robert Mueller's report of the investigation's findings.

"Here are my principal conclusions: 1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report. 2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct. 3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances. 4. Few members of Congress have read the report," Amash wrote Saturday afternoon.

"Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment," the Michigan Republican continued. "Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence."

A Michigan Republican and member of the House Freedom Caucus broke with his party Saturday in a rare series of tweets accusing President Trump of "impeachable conduct."

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted Saturday that the president's actions to potentially obstruct the now-shuttered special counsel investigation warrant impeachment by the House. He also accused Attorney General William Barr of "deliberately misrepresenting" Robert Mueller's report of the investigation's findings.

"Here are my principal conclusions: 1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report. 2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct. 3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances. 4. Few members of Congress have read the report," Amash wrote Saturday afternoon.

"Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment," the Michigan Republican continued. "Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence."

In other tweets, Amash accused Barr of "sleight-of-hand" to obscure the findings of Mueller's report in his own summary released to Congress earlier this year.

"In comparing Barr’s principal conclusions, congressional testimony, and other statements to Mueller’s report, it is clear that Barr intended to mislead the public about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s analysis and findings," Amash wrote.

Amash has been a frequent critic of Trump. He has previously said he will not rule out running for the Libertarian Party nomination for president next year.

Amash also co-sponsored a resolution to block Trump's emergency declaration earlier this year.

"Barr’s misrepresentations are significant but often subtle, frequently taking the form of sleight-of-hand qualifications or logical fallacies, which he hopes people will not notice."

A Michigan Republican and member of the House Freedom Caucus broke with his party Saturday in a rare series of tweets accusing President Trump of "impeachable conduct."

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted Saturday that the president's actions to potentially obstruct the now-shuttered special counsel investigation warrant impeachment by the House. He also accused Attorney General William Barr of "deliberately misrepresenting" Robert Mueller's report of the investigation's findings.

"Here are my principal conclusions: 1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report. 2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct. 3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances. 4. Few members of Congress have read the report," Amash wrote Saturday afternoon.

"Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment," the Michigan Republican continued. "Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence."

In other tweets, Amash accused Barr of "sleight-of-hand" to obscure the findings of Mueller's report in his own summary released to Congress earlier this year.

"In comparing Barr’s principal conclusions, congressional testimony, and other statements to Mueller’s report, it is clear that Barr intended to mislead the public about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s analysis and findings," Amash wrote.

Amash has been a frequent critic of Trump. He has previously said he will not rule out running for the Libertarian Party nomination for president next year.

Amash also co-sponsored a resolution to block Trump's emergency declaration earlier this year.

Amash's statements make him the first Republican in the House to come out publicly in support of impeachment proceedings, even as Democratic leadership has hesitated to bow to demands from dozens of House Democrats who support the issue and come out in support of impeachment.

Both Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) have come out against impeachment proceedings, while calling for Trump's conduct to be addressed at the ballot box.

[beerptrol]

The chump cultist, including the ones in congress, will turn on him. How dare he put the interest of the people a head of dear leader Chump's interest. Chump>party>the american people

[TheSquealer]

[VRPdommy]

Despite what the report/congressman says, how did he view a un-redacted report ?
Unless perhaps he is on a intelligence committee.
Was it released to congress ?

But it is clear, many were towing the line before reading the public version and continue as such.

[abshard]

Title says unredacted, message says redacted

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by abshard

Title says unredacted, message says redacted

They can't help themselves, always putting their feelings and hate before facts.

[Rochard]

Has anyone here read the Mueller Report?

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/...searchable.pdf

It's fucking stunning. It's 400 plus pages of collusion and obstruction. It actually details Manafort handing over polling data to the Russians. It also has Rick Gates uploading gigs and gigs of polling data on an encrypted and then deleting the information - daily. It details Georgie spending six months during the campaign flying off to Europe to talk to not one, not two, but three different spies.

This is treason.

[crockett]

In the end there are many Republicans who should be hung for treason. They can not be aloud to walk away after this attempt to destroy our Democracy.


Barr, Mitch McConnell, Devin Nunes, Lindsey Ghram and many more must either be hung as traitors or be locked away for the rest of their lives..


They are guilty of treason and their punishment is written into the Constitution..



Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and ...

[crockett]

People like Squeker will need to be locked away in mental wards, otherwise they will try to blow themselves up as suicide bombers once their cult leader is jailed..

[onwebcam]

His company..




I wonder why he's against Trump?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

His company..




I wonder why he's against Trump?

Of course. Tariffs are destroying his business. Like tens of thousands of other American business hurt by this stupidity and tens of thousands of farmers.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

People like Squeker will need to be locked away in mental wards, otherwise they will try to blow themselves up as suicide bombers once their cult leader is jailed..

I love how you're always projecting. Always talking about "the other guys" being hypocritical while you're hypocritical. Always talking about what "the other guys" do wrong while ignoring what "your guys" do wrong. Always talking about "the hate" of the other side in the middle of your hate filled tirades. Always talking about "the other guys" being criminals and ignoring the criminality of "your guys". Always talking about how "they" are mentally unstable while at the same time you are clearly in a multi-year downward emotional spiral, becoming more angry and more hateful, more intolerant and more bigoted and prejudiced.

The difference between you and I is that I take joy in annoying you with facts. Otherwise, I could care less who is President. I'm not angry at anyone. I don't hate anyone. I didn't vote for Trump. I don't spend my time in a manic frenzy of hatred, trying to prove by starting 10+ threads a day and aligning myself with idiots like Bladeliar - who lied with this thread title as per usual and emotional cripples like ********** to reinforce an obviously wrong notion that "the other team" is evil. That's you. That's you,... 100%.

Funny how quick you guys are to call "the other team" Nazis... it's like you've never read one of your own bigoted, hate laced and intolerant posts... wishing bodily harm, injury and even death on others because you simply disagree with their political views.

Todays Left: "Obey our intolerant narrative or you're an enemy of the people that deserves to be destroyed at any cost"

[Acepimp]

Amash is a never-Trumper establishment swamp creature. Fuck that guy

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I love how you're always projecting. Always talking about "the other guys" being hypocritical while you're hypocritical. Always talking about what "the other guys" do wrong while ignoring what "your guys" do wrong. Always talking about "the hate" of the other side in the middle of your hate filled tirades. Always talking about "the other guys" being criminals and ignoring the criminality of "your guys". Always talking about how "they" are mentally unstable while at the same time you are clearly in a multi-year downward emotional spiral, becoming more angry and more hateful, more intolerant and more bigoted and prejudiced.

The difference between you and I is that I take joy in annoying you with facts. Otherwise, I could care less who is President. I'm not angry at anyone. I don't hate anyone. I didn't vote for Trump. I don't spend my time in a manic frenzy of hatred, trying to prove by starting 10+ threads a day and aligning myself with idiots like Bladeliar - who lied with this thread title as per usual and emotional cripples like ********** to reinforce an obviously wrong notion that "the other team" is evil. That's you. That's you,... 100%.

Funny how quick you guys are to call "the other team" Nazis... it's like you've never read one of your own bigoted, hate laced and intolerant posts... wishing bodily harm, injury and even death on others because you simply disagree with their political views.

Todays Left: "Obey our intolerant narrative or you're an enemy of the people that deserves to be destroyed at any cost"

The difference between me and you, is you hate everyone not like you. I hate you because of what you're like..

You support Nazis and white nationalists in your political ideology because they are on your team. That makes you a Nazi..

No one is quick to call you that for no reason... You hide among them..

Before Trump I never had to hate Republicans because they were Republicans but yes I disliked their policies and views.

However you Red Hats and Trump deserve to be hated. You are the bottom of society and you earned that position by your actions you people are a disgrace to this country a embarrassment.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Has anyone here read the Mueller Report?

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/...searchable.pdf

It's fucking stunning. It's 400 plus pages of collusion and obstruction. It actually details Manafort handing over polling data to the Russians. It also has Rick Gates uploading gigs and gigs of polling data on an encrypted and then deleting the information - daily. It details Georgie spending six months during the campaign flying off to Europe to talk to not one, not two, but three different spies.

This is treason.

It's all in there, but when you have a corrupt attorney general intercepting and interpreting it as nothing to see and not allowing congress to do its job...then you have the situation we find ourselves in.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

The difference between me and you, is you hate everyone not like you. I hate you because of what you're like..

You support Nazis and white nationalists in your political ideology because they are on your team. That makes you a Nazi..

No one is quick to call you that for no reason... You hide among them..

Before Trump I never had to hate Republicans because they were Republicans but yes I disliked their policies and views.

However you Red Hats and Trump deserve to be hated. You are the bottom of society and you earned that position by your actions you people are a disgrace to this country a embarrassment.

I am absolutely none of those things.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

The difference between me and you, is you hate everyone not like you. I hate you because of what you're like..

You support Nazis and white nationalists in your political ideology because they are on your team. That makes you a Nazi..

No one is quick to call you that for no reason... You hide among them..

Before Trump I never had to hate Republicans because they were Republicans but yes I disliked their policies and views.

However you Red Hats and Trump deserve to be hated. You are the bottom of society and you earned that position by your actions you people are a disgrace to this country a embarrassment.

Thats a nice sampling of invented rationalizations for your own unhinged lunacy and boundless hate for others.

You believe others "deserve" to be hated.

1/2 of the voting public of your own country "deserves to be hated"

That says everything anyone should know about you.

I hope you are taken off the street before you hurt yourself and others.

You not only began sounding like a radicalized terrorist a couple years ago, but you sound more and more like you're capable of carrying out a suicide bombing or ready to join ISIS.

Now... let me clue you in as to how the brain works
... You hate.
... You don't know why you hate.
... You're full of hate.
... You're just full of anger.
... There was never a time in your existence here where you were not full of anger.
... Anyone can see that anger is dramatically worsening to the point that you've went far past "i don't agree" and are now at "if they don't agree with me, they are subhuman and deserve to die"

Something is clearly wrong with you, mentally.
This is clearly evident for anyone to see.

What your brain attempts to do is to reconcile your over the top and destructive emotions by attaching a "cause" to those intense feelings which are clearly taking over you and your life. It does this primarily as a means to conserve energy and to quiet the constant (and obviously quite intense, in your case) chatter in your brain.

No one is a Nazi. No one is a "white supremacist". No one is coming to get you. These are the things your brain needs to invent in an attempt to minimize the massive energy cost of you spinning out of control emotionally and the excessive calories lost as a result. It's your brains attempt to reconcile the intense hate and intense emotions and intense fears you have with a single cause and then put it to rest to conserve energy.

You see, your brain burns about 20% of your daily calories. It has countless mechanisms to minimize the energy it burns. Your visual system for example is quite impressive in this manner with it's modeling of the world, using bits of memory to invent/recreate much of your surroundings (which you mistakenly believe you are "seeing"), it's endless feed forward and feed back loops and tiers of visual processing to only process the smallest parts that don't fit the model etc. All perfectly designed to provide maximum value at minimum energy cost.

In your case, your brain is on fire with hatred and anger. Something is clearly wrong with you.

Being that we are hyper social creatures and are very much dependent on human interaction and you live in isolation, your brain is suffering. This is not something which can be disputed. In all mammals, when social interaction is diminished, the brain suffers in numerous ways and many areas are affected, which ironically retard your ability to interact with others, understand others, empathize with others, communicate well with others etc.

It is coming apart.
It is deteriorating.

Many areas are shrinking. Particularly those areas relating to executive function - such as the cerebral cortex (the outer layer of your brain)... which is evolved to manage social interactions

Just like theking....

Your ability to understand others, relate to others, empathize etc are all diminishing by the day.

with theking, he was in constant pain and that in and of itself causes a massive amount of deterioration in various areas of the brain, in addition to intensely negative and self destructive states such as "learned helplessness" where his body and brain is shutting down anyway to cope with the pain. But when then isolate yourself from people at the same time and of course his mental state deteriorated quickly over a few years.

[TheSquealer]

Some useful articles for crockette on why he's spinning out of control mentally with his "nomadic" lifestyle and self imposed isolation from social relationships and how it relates to his 3-4 year downward spiral into all out hatred for others. (there was the same inevitable outcome for theking - had to move to a remote cabin, armed to the teeth, created a defensive perimeter and rigged the area with booby traps and defensive firing positions, according to him, he loved his dog in the end more than his own children etc and was quite open about hating people)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_isolation
"A lack of social relationships negatively impacts the development of the brain's structure. In extreme cases of social isolation, studies of young mice and monkeys have shown how the brain is strongly affected by a lack of social behaviour and relationships."

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-brain-changes
"The new results, along with other recent brain studies, clearly show that for social species, isolation is damaging, says neurobiologist Huda Akil of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. “There is no question that this is changing the basic architecture of the brain,” Akil says."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...cial-isolation
"Humans are hardwired to interact with others, especially during times of stress. When we go through a trying ordeal alone, a lack of emotional support and friendship can increase our anxiety and hinder our coping ability."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ment-the-brain
"One of the most remarkable effects of chronic social isolation, as in the extreme case of solitary confinement, is the decrease in the size of hippocampus, the brain region related to learning, memory, and spatial awareness. The sustained stress of extreme isolation leads to a loss of hippocampal plasticity, a decrease in the formation of new neurons, and the eventual failing in hippocampal function. On the other hand, the amygdala increases its activity in response to isolation. This area mediates fear and anxiety, symptoms enhanced in prisoners in solitary confinement. "

[crockett]

Originally Posted by bronco67

It's all in there, but when you have a corrupt attorney general intercepting and interpreting it as nothing to see and not allowing congress to do its job...then you have the situation we find ourselves in.

He should be jailed and then hung for treason.. Barr is probably the biggest traitor this country has even seen..

[TheSquealer]

more extremism
more hate

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I am absolutely none of those things.

You are all of those things because you support them.. you dont speak out about the right wing Nazis or White nationalists.. you dont speak out about Republicans racist policies and their attempts to destroy our Constitution..

You constantly make excuses for it.. You are them by association and your support by accepting it..

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

You are all of those things because you support them.. you dont speak out about the right wing Nazis or White nationalists.. you dont speak out about Republicans racist policies and their attempts to destroy our Constitution..

You constantly make excuses for it.. You are them by association and your support by accepting it..

You are all of those things because you don't speak out against Democrats when they are racist, when they are attacking others, when they are killing others, when they are fucking children, when they are stealing money in government, when they are caught cheating in elections, when they are embroiled in gay sex scandals, for the fact that they are also just as religious as Republicans,,.. BECAUSE YOU DON'T CORRECT BLADELIAR ON HIS CONSTANT LIES - like the thread title etc etc etc etc etc etc etc....

See how your bias works?

See how your claims of being "against hypocrisy" is not at all congruent with your behavior and quite clearly hypocritical?

No?

Shouldn't have expected that you would.



We get it crockett.... "i only hate because...." is the common theme of your life and with the unhinged Left today, where people who once took no personal responsibility for their own success in life (or lack thereof) are now such delicate, self righteous snowflakes that you are not even taking responsibility for your feelings and extreme behavior and your misguided and dangerous hate towards others.

Notice the common theme with you and those like you, is "what others are doing to me and what they are making me feel" and never "what we need to do for ourselves and for others so that we can feel great"??

Of course not.

You're basically a 50 year old millennial hermit who is coming undone mentally right before our eyes.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You are all of those things because you don't speak out against Democrats when they are racist, when they are attacking others, when they are killing others, when they are fucking children, when they are stealing money in government, when they are caught cheating in elections, when they are embroiled in gay sex scandals, for the fact that they are also just as religious as Republicans,,.. BECAUSE YOU DON'T CORRECT BLADELIAR ON HIS CONSTANT LIES - like the thread title etc etc etc etc etc etc etc....

See how your bias works?

See how your claims of being "against hypocrisy" is not at all congruent with your behavior and quite clearly hypocritical?

No?

Shouldn't have expected that you would.



We get it crockett.... "i only hate because...." is the common theme with the unhinged Left today, where people who once took no personal responsibility for their own success in life (or lack thereof) are now such delicate, self righteous snowflakes that you are not even taking responsibility for their your feelings and extreme behavior and your misguided and dangerous hate.

Notice the common theme with you and those like you, is "what others are doing to me" and never "what we need to do for ourselves and for others"

You're basically a 50 year old millennial.

^^^ Thinks it's ok to excuse away Nazis and white nationalist and thinks him doing so is perfectly fine. No one should compare him to the racists, bigots, Nazis that he supports because MAGA... and liberals bad!

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

^^^ Thinks it's ok to excuse away Nazis and white nationalist and thinks him doing so is perfectly fine. No one should compare him to the racists, bigots, Nazis that he supports because MAGA... and liberals bad!

never in my life have i "excused Nazis" for anything and quite frankly, i have no idea what a "white supremacist" is being that it is only a recent invention of the unhinged leftist mob who can't accept an election result.... and doesn't have the maturity or wisdom to stop crying and whining and focus on winning the next.

but no one expects you to deal with facts as you place feelings above facts.


Please watch this video crockett and help yourself get better and take some steps to start to reverse years of brain damage caused by your social isolation

[crockett]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

never in my life have i "excused Nazis" for anything and quite frankly, i have no idea what a "white supremacist" is being that it is only a recent invention of the unhinged leftist mob who can't accept an election result.... and doesn't have the maturity or wisdom to stop crying and whining and focus on winning the next.

but no one expects you to deal with facts as you place feelings above facts.

Then condemn Trump for excusing them away... Condemn Fox News that brings white nationalist on their shows..

Do it if you don't support them..


Also why is it you don't even reply about this topic that even a far right Tea Party member who was given access to a unredacted version of the Muller report now says Trump must be impeached.. Why can't you comment on that? He suddenly a liberal?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Barr is probably the biggest traitor this country has even seen..

I think you're right on this

Trump is a greedy fat old businessman. Hey supporters news are getting a greedy corrupt untrustable lying goon when they voted for him but he was racist so they got his vote.

Barr is part of the justice department, people have to follow the rule of law for decades to work their way up to get to the level of being considered for AG. that mean Barr has been deceptive about his character for decades. Dangerous

When Barr testify before Congress there were times where he was just really disgusting and projected thst he didn't care, very nonchalant. Barr lied under oath. Barr lied about Mueller's stance in the Mueller report. Barr misled congress. Barr misled Americans. Barr is corrupt and head of the DOJ, he's an extremely dangerous threat to our Democracy.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I am absolutely none of those things.

You can say that all you want...but your posts indicate something entirely different. You're a racist and a fucking Nazi sympathizer. People wouldn't call you that for no reason.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by bronco67

You can say that all you want...but your posts indicate something entirely different. You're a racist and a fucking Nazi sympathizer. People wouldn't call you that for no reason.

Oh really? You call someone something that's obviously not true and then pat yourself on the back with the rational that "i wouldn't have said it for no reason, therefore it must be true"

Of course, like all your stupid insults, from you, bladewire, crocket etc you can't back them up with facts, you can only back them up with feelings.

The trademark behavior of the Left. "if i felt it, it must be true".

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

Then condemn Trump for excusing them away.

First, I don't' follow your commands

Second, you show me the FULL QUOTE in it's full context and i'll give you an opinion and demonstrate that you're a fully unhinged dipshit making things up.

I'm guessing you're talking about this quote

"REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

immediately followed by:

I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.

Which the unhinged Leftist Mob turned into

"There are fine people on both sides"

To drive the clearly false narrative he was supporting "Neo Nazis" which he clearly wasn't?

Or do you have an actual example of what you're claiming was said... that are rooted in reality, not an emotionally driven fantasy?

.... now awaiting your typical non answer and deflection when presented with incontrovertible facts.

[crockett]

Squealer cant denounce Nazis.. yet claims he isnt a supporter..

Squealer is a liar.. He always tries to flip the argument so the other person has to defend. He can never straight up answer a question just flip flops around like a good Nazi supporter.

Everyone has seen Nazi supporters and White nationalists at Trump rallies at Charlottesville but still he pretends they don't exist just like every other Republican Nazi..

[Diomed]

IT'S MAIM!!

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by crockett

Squealer cant denounce Nazis.. yet claims he isnt a supporter..

Squealer is a liar.. He always tries to flip the argument so the other person has to defend. He can never straight up answer a question just flip flops around like a good Nazi supporter.

Everyone has seen Nazi supporters and White nationalists at Trump rallies at Charlottesville but still he pretends they don't exist just like every other Republican Nazi..

As per usual, no facts... just feelings. You got caught in a lie again, can't prove what you say and as I said you would, you deflect.

Obviously no one supports Nazis you fucking idiot. Obviously there's no magical Nazi problem / infestation / resurgence that just popped because Democrats lost an election. Obviously Trump never "supported" Nazis. Furthermore, it's not the Presidents job to condemn US Citizens, which he is elected to represent... never the less, he did.. but you conveniently glossed over that simple fact because all you care about is your fake narrative of "Orange Man Bad"

But then again, you're going to cling to your religion and your faith and all it's comforting fables in these difficult times. And ironically, you'll continue to mock others for doing the same ... because as you've always been, you are yourself everything which you hate in others.

People like you, your shared delusions, your hateful rhetoric, your divisive lies, your fake narratives, your rampant racism, your calls for violence and your complete and total lack of reason, are why Democrats have already lost in 2020.

[TheSquealer]

Maybe next you guys can explain why illegals are on track to be 1,200,000 crossing the border this year, the entire system is overwhelmed detaining them, processing them and deporting them, ... but you spent so much time calling it a "manufactured crisis".

How can you object to sending illegals to sanctuary cities if they don't exist??
How can you object to sending illegals to sanctuary cities if they're such a great thing for the community and economy.

Oh,... i forgot myself. Your only response to being called out for stupidity and fake narratives are "racist" and "nazi"... so,... nevermind. We get it! You're all out of ideas and full to the brim with hate.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Squealer cant denounce Nazis.. yet claims he isnt a supporter..

Squealer is a liar..

Just like OneHungLo

[TheSquealer]

Dems are really losing their shit. No more "Muh Russia!"

It would be nice if you guys actually had a plan for jobs, for immigration, for trade, for tax reform, for health care --- YOU KNOW, THE SHIT VOTERS ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, while you spend your days in a manic, frenzied temper tantrum like a bunch of completely unhinged idiots.

No Obstruction.
No Collusion.

Thats gotta hurt.

[TheSquealer]

You know, current news that VOTERS care about.... while you
busy yourselves with your incessant, hate laced temper tantrums.

[Bosa]

Deutsche Bank Staff Saw Suspicious Activity in Trump and Kushner Accounts

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/b...p-kushner.html

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — Anti-money laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank recommended in 2016 and 2017 that multiple transactions involving legal entities controlled by Donald J. Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a federal financial-crimes watchdog.

The transactions, some of which involved Mr. Trump’s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity, according to five current and former bank employees. Compliance staff members who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes.

But executives at Deutsche Bank, which has lent billions of dollars to the Trump and Kushner companies, rejected their employees’ advice. The reports were never filed with the government.

The nature of the transactions was not clear. At least some of them involved money flowing back and forth with overseas entities or individuals, which bank employees considered suspicious.

Real estate developers like Mr. Trump and Mr. Kushner sometimes do large, all-cash deals, including with people outside the United States, any of which can prompt anti-money laundering reviews. The red flags raised by employees do not necessarily mean the transactions were improper. Banks sometimes opt not to file suspicious activity reports if they conclude their employees’ concerns are unwarranted.

But former Deutsche Bank employees said the decision not to report the Trump and Kushner transactions reflected the bank’s generally lax approach to money laundering laws. The employees — most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve their ability to work in the industry — said it was part of a pattern of the bank’s executives rejecting valid reports to protect relationships with lucrative clients.

“You present them with everything, and you give them a recommendation, and nothing happens,” said Tammy McFadden, a former Deutsche Bank anti-money laundering specialist who reviewed some of the transactions. “It’s the D.B. way. They are prone to discounting everything.”

Deutsche Bank employees flagged concerns about activity in accounts linked to both Mr. Kushner and Mr. Trump.CreditPablo Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press
Ms. McFadden said she was terminated last year after she raised concerns about the bank’s practices. Since then, she has filed complaints with the Securities and Exchange Commission and other regulators about the bank’s anti-money-laundering enforcement.

Kerrie McHugh, a Deutsche Bank spokeswoman, said the company had intensified its efforts to combat financial crime. An effective anti-money laundering program, she said, “requires sophisticated transaction screening technology as well as a trained group of individuals who can analyze the alerts generated by that technology both thoroughly and efficiently.”

“At no time was an investigator prevented from escalating activity identified as potentially suspicious,” she added. “Furthermore, the suggestion that anyone was reassigned or fired in an effort to quash concerns relating to any client is categorically false.”

Amanda Miller, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for the Trump family’s many business interests, said: “We have no knowledge of any ‘flagged’ transactions with Deutsche Bank.” She said the Trump Organization currently has “no operating accounts with Deutsche Bank.” She did not respond when asked if other Trump entities had accounts.

Karen Zabarsky, a spokeswoman for Kushner Companies, said: “Any allegations regarding Deutsche Bank’s relationship with Kushner Companies which involved money laundering is completely made up and totally false. The New York Times continues to create dots that just don’t connect.”

Deutsche Bank’s decision not to report the transactions is the latest twist in Mr. Trump’s long, complicated relationship with the German bank — the only mainstream financial institution consistently willing to do business with the real estate developer.

Congressional and state authorities are investigating that relationship and have demanded the bank’s records related to the president, his family and their companies. Subpoenas from two House committees seek, among other things, documents related to any suspicious activities detected in Mr. Trump’s personal and business bank accounts since 2010, according to a copy of a subpoena included in a federal court filing.

Mr. Trump and his family sued Deutsche Bank in April, seeking to block it from complying with the congressional subpoenas. The president’s lawyers described the subpoenas as politically motivated.

Suspicious activity reports are at the heart of the federal government’s efforts to identify criminal activity like money laundering and sanctions violations. But government regulations give banks leeway in selecting which transactions to report to the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

Lenders typically use a layered approach to detect improper activity. The first step is filtering thousands of transactions using computer programs, which send the ones considered potentially suspicious to midlevel employees for a detailed review. Those employees can decide whether to draft a suspicious activity report, but a final ruling on whether to submit it to the Treasury Department is often made by more senior managers.

In the summer of 2016, Deutsche Bank’s software flagged a series of transactions involving the real estate company of Mr. Kushner, now a senior White House adviser.

Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank’s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government — in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.

Ms. McFadden drafted a suspicious activity report and compiled a small bundle of documents to back up her decision.

Typically, such a report would be reviewed by a team of anti-money laundering experts who are independent of the business line in which the transactions originated — in this case, the private-banking division — according to Ms. McFadden and two former Deutsche Bank managers.

That did not happen with this report. It went to managers in New York who were part of the private bank, which caters to the ultrawealthy. They felt Ms. McFadden’s concerns were unfounded and opted not to submit the report to the government, the employees said.

Ms. McFadden and some of her colleagues said they believed the report had been killed to maintain the private-banking division’s strong relationship with Mr. Kushner.

After Mr. Trump became president, transactions involving him and his companies were reviewed by an anti-financial crime team at the bank called the Special Investigations Unit. That team, based in Jacksonville, produced multiple suspicious activity reports involving different entities that Mr. Trump owned or controlled, according to three former Deutsche Bank employees who saw the reports in an internal computer system.

Some of those reports involved Mr. Trump’s limited liability companies. At least one was related to transactions involving the Donald J. Trump Foundation, two employees said.

Deutsche Bank ultimately chose not to file those suspicious activity reports with the Treasury Department, either, according to three former employees. They said it was unusual for the bank to reject a series of reports involving the same high-profile client.

Mr. Trump’s relationship with Deutsche Bank spans two decades. During a period when most Wall Street banks had stopped doing business with him after his repeated defaults, Deutsche Bank lent Mr. Trump and his companies a total of more than $2.5 billion. Projects financed through the private-banking division include Mr. Trump’s Doral golf resort near Miami and his transformation of Washington’s Old Post Office Building into a luxury hotel.

When he became president, he owed Deutsche Bank well over $300 million. That made the German institution Mr. Trump’s biggest creditor — and put the bank in a bind.

Senior executives worried that if they took a tough stance with Mr. Trump’s accounts — for example, by demanding payment of a delinquent loan — they could provoke the president’s wrath. On the other hand, if they didn’t do anything, the bank could be perceived as cutting a lucrative break for Mr. Trump, whose administration wields regulatory and law enforcement power over the bank.

In the past few years, United States and European authorities have punished Deutsche Bank for helping clients, including wealthy Russians, launder funds and for moving money into countries like Iran in violation of American sanctions. The bank has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties and is operating under a Federal Reserve order that requires it to do more to stop illicit activities.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bosa

Deutsche Bank Staff Saw Suspicious Activity in Trump and Kushner Accounts

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/b...p-kushner.html

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — Anti-money laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank recommended in 2016 and 2017 that multiple transactions involving legal entities controlled by Donald J. Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a federal financial-crimes watchdog.

The transactions, some of which involved Mr. Trump’s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity, according to five current and former bank employees. Compliance staff members who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes.

But executives at Deutsche Bank, which has lent billions of dollars to the Trump and Kushner companies, rejected their employees’ advice. The reports were never filed with the government.

The nature of the transactions was not clear. At least some of them involved money flowing back and forth with overseas entities or individuals, which bank employees considered suspicious.

Real estate developers like Mr. Trump and Mr. Kushner sometimes do large, all-cash deals, including with people outside the United States, any of which can prompt anti-money laundering reviews. The red flags raised by employees do not necessarily mean the transactions were improper. Banks sometimes opt not to file suspicious activity reports if they conclude their employees’ concerns are unwarranted.

But former Deutsche Bank employees said the decision not to report the Trump and Kushner transactions reflected the bank’s generally lax approach to money laundering laws. The employees — most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve their ability to work in the industry — said it was part of a pattern of the bank’s executives rejecting valid reports to protect relationships with lucrative clients.

“You present them with everything, and you give them a recommendation, and nothing happens,” said Tammy McFadden, a former Deutsche Bank anti-money laundering specialist who reviewed some of the transactions. “It’s the D.B. way. They are prone to discounting everything.”

Deutsche Bank employees flagged concerns about activity in accounts linked to both Mr. Kushner and Mr. Trump.CreditPablo Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press
Ms. McFadden said she was terminated last year after she raised concerns about the bank’s practices. Since then, she has filed complaints with the Securities and Exchange Commission and other regulators about the bank’s anti-money-laundering enforcement.

Kerrie McHugh, a Deutsche Bank spokeswoman, said the company had intensified its efforts to combat financial crime. An effective anti-money laundering program, she said, “requires sophisticated transaction screening technology as well as a trained group of individuals who can analyze the alerts generated by that technology both thoroughly and efficiently.”

“At no time was an investigator prevented from escalating activity identified as potentially suspicious,” she added. “Furthermore, the suggestion that anyone was reassigned or fired in an effort to quash concerns relating to any client is categorically false.”

Amanda Miller, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for the Trump family’s many business interests, said: “We have no knowledge of any ‘flagged’ transactions with Deutsche Bank.” She said the Trump Organization currently has “no operating accounts with Deutsche Bank.” She did not respond when asked if other Trump entities had accounts.

Karen Zabarsky, a spokeswoman for Kushner Companies, said: “Any allegations regarding Deutsche Bank’s relationship with Kushner Companies which involved money laundering is completely made up and totally false. The New York Times continues to create dots that just don’t connect.”

Deutsche Bank’s decision not to report the transactions is the latest twist in Mr. Trump’s long, complicated relationship with the German bank — the only mainstream financial institution consistently willing to do business with the real estate developer.

Congressional and state authorities are investigating that relationship and have demanded the bank’s records related to the president, his family and their companies. Subpoenas from two House committees seek, among other things, documents related to any suspicious activities detected in Mr. Trump’s personal and business bank accounts since 2010, according to a copy of a subpoena included in a federal court filing.

Mr. Trump and his family sued Deutsche Bank in April, seeking to block it from complying with the congressional subpoenas. The president’s lawyers described the subpoenas as politically motivated.

Suspicious activity reports are at the heart of the federal government’s efforts to identify criminal activity like money laundering and sanctions violations. But government regulations give banks leeway in selecting which transactions to report to the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

Lenders typically use a layered approach to detect improper activity. The first step is filtering thousands of transactions using computer programs, which send the ones considered potentially suspicious to midlevel employees for a detailed review. Those employees can decide whether to draft a suspicious activity report, but a final ruling on whether to submit it to the Treasury Department is often made by more senior managers.

In the summer of 2016, Deutsche Bank’s software flagged a series of transactions involving the real estate company of Mr. Kushner, now a senior White House adviser.

Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank’s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government — in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.

Ms. McFadden drafted a suspicious activity report and compiled a small bundle of documents to back up her decision.

Typically, such a report would be reviewed by a team of anti-money laundering experts who are independent of the business line in which the transactions originated — in this case, the private-banking division — according to Ms. McFadden and two former Deutsche Bank managers.

That did not happen with this report. It went to managers in New York who were part of the private bank, which caters to the ultrawealthy. They felt Ms. McFadden’s concerns were unfounded and opted not to submit the report to the government, the employees said.

Ms. McFadden and some of her colleagues said they believed the report had been killed to maintain the private-banking division’s strong relationship with Mr. Kushner.

After Mr. Trump became president, transactions involving him and his companies were reviewed by an anti-financial crime team at the bank called the Special Investigations Unit. That team, based in Jacksonville, produced multiple suspicious activity reports involving different entities that Mr. Trump owned or controlled, according to three former Deutsche Bank employees who saw the reports in an internal computer system.

Some of those reports involved Mr. Trump’s limited liability companies. At least one was related to transactions involving the Donald J. Trump Foundation, two employees said.

Deutsche Bank ultimately chose not to file those suspicious activity reports with the Treasury Department, either, according to three former employees. They said it was unusual for the bank to reject a series of reports involving the same high-profile client.

Mr. Trump’s relationship with Deutsche Bank spans two decades. During a period when most Wall Street banks had stopped doing business with him after his repeated defaults, Deutsche Bank lent Mr. Trump and his companies a total of more than $2.5 billion. Projects financed through the private-banking division include Mr. Trump’s Doral golf resort near Miami and his transformation of Washington’s Old Post Office Building into a luxury hotel.

When he became president, he owed Deutsche Bank well over $300 million. That made the German institution Mr. Trump’s biggest creditor — and put the bank in a bind.

Senior executives worried that if they took a tough stance with Mr. Trump’s accounts — for example, by demanding payment of a delinquent loan — they could provoke the president’s wrath. On the other hand, if they didn’t do anything, the bank could be perceived as cutting a lucrative break for Mr. Trump, whose administration wields regulatory and law enforcement power over the bank.

In the past few years, United States and European authorities have punished Deutsche Bank for helping clients, including wealthy Russians, launder funds and for moving money into countries like Iran in violation of American sanctions. The bank has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties and is operating under a Federal Reserve order that requires it to do more to stop illicit activities.

These people are criminals through and through.

[VRPdommy]

Tic Toc
Will the walls collapse before the term ?
Trump has not expanded his base.
But he has excited a bunch on the left who they mange to get to stay home last time.
AND the left is expanding their base because of him.
I don't see how he could win a second term.

But the better questions are for the senators who support his line.
That is the fight.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by VRPdommy

Tic Toc
Will the walls collapse before the term ?
Trump has not expanded his base.
But he has excited a bunch on the left who they mange to get to stay home last time.
AND the left is expanding their base because of him.
I don't see how he could win a second term.

But the better questions are for the senators who support his line.
That is the fight.

It doesn't matter... He might even make it to the end of his term. I don't see him winning another term; His base is shrinking. His trade war is hurting his base more than any other group.

And the moment he is out of office you know they will pounce on him.

[VRPdommy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...y-steep-price/

It’s odd that Trump World’s position continues to be that Mueller’s report totally exonerated Trump, but also that we must not hear from anyone who helped produce that totally exonerating account ever again. But put that aside. Can the White House keep McGahn from testifying?
...
“Congress has issued a valid subpoena," Conway told me. “And courts have said that when Congress is doing oversight, its power to enforce a subpoena is not as strong as when it’s doing an impeachment inquiry.”

On top of this, the ludicrousness of the executive privilege claim itself could help build the political case for impeachment. Conway pointed out that one component of one article of President Richard M. Nixon’s impeachment was a similar “improper use of executive privilege,” exercised to prevent a congressional investigation of Nixon’s wrongdoing, just as is happening now.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

It doesn't matter... He might even make it to the end of his term. I don't see him winning another term; His base is shrinking. His trade war is hurting his base more than any other group.

And the moment he is out of office you know they will pounce on him.

Don't get your hopes up.

No previous presidents have ever been sued or jailed after they left office, it's American custom.

You know how how there's that you to a policy of not indicting a current sitting president, you'll find out after Trump leaves office that there's a policy of not indicting a previous president that's out of office.

They didn't go after Nixon after he left office they won't go after Trump unfortunately

I hope I'm wrong but I'm just warning you in advance so you don't get your hopes up.

[VRPdommy]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Don't get your hopes up.

No previous presidents have ever been sued or jailed after they left office, it's American custom.

You know how how there's that you to a policy of not indicting a current sitting president, you'll find out after Trump leaves office that there's a policy of not indicting a previous president that's out of office.

They didn't go after Nixon after he left office they won't go after Trump unfortunately

I hope I'm wrong but I'm just warning you in advance so you don't get your hopes up.

I do believe that he will most likely be indicted for financial crimes when he is out of office.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by VRPdommy

I do believe that he will most likely be indicted for financial crimes when he is out of office.

I hope you're right

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Don't get your hopes up.

No previous presidents have ever been sued or jailed after they left office, it's American custom.

You know how how there's that you to a policy of not indicting a current sitting president, you'll find out after Trump leaves office that there's a policy of not indicting a previous president that's out of office.

They didn't go after Nixon after he left office they won't go after Trump unfortunately

I hope I'm wrong but I'm just warning you in advance so you don't get your hopes up.

The only other US President who has had so many legal issues and been accused of so many crimes is Nixon.... And frankly, Nixon has nothing on Trump.

There are already multiple investigations at the state level. These do not just "go away" after he leaves the White House.

[VRPdommy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The only other US President who has had so many legal issues and been accused of so many crimes is Nixon.... And frankly, Nixon has nothing on Trump.

There are already multiple investigations at the state level. These do not just "go away" after he leaves the White House.

After he is out of office... who cares. I'm more worried about the nation and constitution in office.

His last day in office, he will pardon himself. Yes it will need to be tried in the courts and he may get away with it. Nothing in there to stop it except law writer intent decided by the courts.