Theresa May to step down after US visit

[onwebcam]

She has to come here and apologize to Trump for interfering in our elections and walk away in shame


The door to Number 10 shuts as PM loses power
https://app.standard.co.uk/2019/05/2...s/content.html

[Scott McD]

She is a fucking imbecile...

[optics]

Worst prime minister ever.

History won't even remember her. It'll go straight from Cameron to whoever succeeds her.

When her generation dies, the Tory party will die with it. Can't come soon enough.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by optics

Worst prime minister ever.

History won't even remember her. It'll go straight from Cameron to whoever succeeds her.

When her generation dies, the Tory party will die with it. Can't come soon enough.

Then who will generate the money the socialists spend?

We need big business, we need them to pay their taxes and not establish offshore offices as tax havens. But the thing we need the most is to spend what we have and no more.

[Paul Markham]

She resigned an hour ago.

She is the worse Prime Minister since Wilson and should have gone when she called a general election and lost the biggest lead in the polls ever. To a complete imbecile who believes money grows on trees.

[Tinalid]

who was vote for him then?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Then who will generate the money the socialists spend?

We need big business, we need them to pay their taxes and not establish offshore offices as tax havens. But the thing we need the most is to spend what we have and no more.

you mean the real brexiteers like HIM ?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

you mean the real brexiteers like HIM ?

There's the problem we all have today, even with the brilliant minds at the EU. Big businesses can avoid a small amount of tax, corporation tax, by registering their company abroad. Many times in another EU country.

Still some of the wealth he does generate goes to the IRS. Such as employees, VAT, building, fuel, etc. What is needed is to scrap Corporation tax and add it to other tax areas so there's nothing to dodge. Also tax goods coming into a country where the tax, salaries, etc of the businesses are far lower. Or just allow the 3rd world to become the first and live off the scraps they leave. How will that fir into your dream of a Utopia?

[Paul Markham]

What is becoming apparent is the quality of the candidates for PM of Great Britain. At the moment there's not a single leader who could command respect and unite the party.

Labour are led by a man who was elected by anyone with £3 and could be bothered to fill in a registration form. So who knows how many far left and communists that included. Whose spending plans will make the debts of Greece seem insignificant. Labours last manifesto promised more borrowing, assumed tax income and under pricing of projects than ever before. The next one could be worse.

But May couldn't stand up to debate with Labour, was a poor Home Secretary and she got chosen. So who knows what clown will be selected to lead the circus of clowns the next time around?

Glad I'm in Czech and getting EU money sent here. Not me personally but the country does.

[BaldBastard]

May might be the worst, but next you have Boris.. so she won't be the worst for long ;)

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There's the problem we all have today, even with the brilliant minds at the EU. Big businesses can avoid a small amount of tax, corporation tax, by registering their company abroad. Many times in another EU country.

i took redcliff as an axample of someone who WANTS the brexit and even financed the campaign.

so do you believe that he wants the brexit for paying more tax ?
he wants the brexit because he knows that the only chance for britain to survive is to become a tax oasis. and tax oases are made for the really rich people and not for the ones you think you are fighting for.

Still some of the wealth he does generate goes to the IRS. Such as employees, VAT, building, fuel, etc. What is needed is to scrap Corporation tax and add it to other tax areas so there's nothing to dodge.

great idea. pull vat to 40% and let the consumers pay the tax from the billionaires.
you are such a honk.

Also tax goods coming into a country where the tax, salaries, etc of the businesses are far lower.

next great idea - it will not hit the ones that buy diamonds what are coming from african workers that get paid 1 dollar per day. it will hit the family who can not afford rice because workers on thai ricefields get paid 8 euro per day.

it will not matter that a normal earner in britain have to decide if he works the next year for a new phone or the next 2 years for a new TV. and i wonder what you are going to do with the money brits spend for holidays abroad in countries with low wages.
you know that this money also belongs to "imports", do you ?

so you would be the very first who had to pay the double price for a sausage in pilsen - just because they have cheaper labour costs and YOU ARE BRITISH.

you are fucking funny, man.

Or just allow the 3rd world to become the first and live off the scraps they leave. How will that fir into your dream of a Utopia?

do you know that 50% of the complete exports of all nations go to those countries who had the chance to make benefit with their lower costs by exporting goods that consumers can buy cheaper. and with this money they make they where able to import this 50% and pay for it.

i think you should really start to understand the money cycle and and least the most important basics of economy before you want to make the world better.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.

Leo Tolstoy

what tolstoy forgot here is to mention how it is to explain the most simple thing to the most slow witted man who is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him

it would describe perfectly ANY kind of conversation with you - it is the same as going back with a time machine into the era when people believed that the world is flat. and try to explain them it is not.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

May might be the worst, but next you have Boris.. so she won't be the worst for long ;)

Wait what happens a few years after the whole dilemma's over.
I can imagine very well that the basic requirement for political candidates will be that they must NOT be blonde to have a chance.

Trump and Boris have created something comparable to a candidate who grows a Hitler beard.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

i took redcliff as an axample of someone who WANTS the brexit and even financed the campaign.

so do you believe that he wants the brexit for paying more tax ?
he wants the brexit because he knows that the only chance for britain to survive is to become a tax oasis. and tax oases are made for the really rich people and not for the ones you think you are fighting for.

If the world won't take on the tax havens it's best to become one.

great idea. pull vat to 40% and let the consumers pay the tax from the billionaires.
you are such a honk.

Only a honk would suggest that. You did I didn't. So your'e the honk.

next great idea - it will not hit the ones that buy diamonds what are coming from african workers that get paid 1 dollar per day. it will hit the family who can not afford rice because workers on thai ricefields get paid 8 euro per day.

it will not matter that a normal earner in britain have to decide if he works the next year for a new phone or the next 2 years for a new TV. and i wonder what you are going to do with the money brits spend for holidays abroad in countries with low wages.
you know that this money also belongs to "imports", do you ?

so you would be the very first who had to pay the double price for a sausage in pilsen - just because they have cheaper labour costs and YOU ARE BRITISH.

you are fucking funny, man.

The UK doesn't grow rice. The products that would get higher taxes are the ones that were made in the West and nowmade in the 3rd world and many peoplein the first would love a job so they can afford to buy them. Many are now struggling to afford food.





This sector will continue to grow while no one does anything. All the remain side promise is it will get worse if the UK leaves

do you know that 50% of the complete exports of all nations go to those countries who had the chance to make benefit with their lower costs by exporting goods that consumers can buy cheaper. and with this money they make they where able to import this 50% and pay for it.

i think you should really start to understand the money cycle and and least the most important basics of economy before you want to make the world better.

Taxes would only effect countries witha large trde deficit with the 1st world. That was abvious but you didn't understand it.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.

Leo Tolstoy

what tolstoy forgot here is to mention how it is to explain the most simple thing to the most slow witted man who is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him

it would describe perfectly ANY kind of conversation with you - it is the same as going back with a time machine into the era when people believed that the world is flat. and try to explain them it is not.

So the people in the videos don't exist and the situation isn't getting worse. It's you who doesn't understand. I'm saying we go back to a time when the !st world exported to the 3rd and the 3rd world wasn't creating more millionaires and billionaires than the 1st. https://www.forbes.com/sites/pamelaa.../#3ab4e2947fb6 But you don't understand that because you're brainwashed.

The problem with the EU is they are doing nothing to correct the top issues facing Europe. Such as Steel production. Cameron was allowed to get away with voting for no action to be taken to protect the European Steel manufacturers. So not only threatening British steel but also the rest of Europe. After China has won the steel industry do you think they will continue to dump it in Europe? What industries are safe so we can keep exporting to the 3rd world and not lose it to a few countries and billionaires in the 3rd.

Please tell us what industries are safe from countries where labour costs are 10% to 20% less than the 1st?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If the world won't take on the tax havens it's best to become one.

do you realize how you keep contradicting yourself?

Only a honk would suggest that. You did I didn't. So your'e the honk.

you did not? so let me quote you:

Still some of the wealth he does generate goes to the IRS. Such as employees, VAT, building, fuel, etc. What is needed is to scrap Corporation tax and add it to other tax areas so there's nothing to dodge.

what you said here is exactly that and additionally you proved that you know fuck about taxes. even to mention VAT together with building, fuel and employees shows, that you think that VAT is something that corporations have at the cost side. VAT is a tax ONLY for consumers.

The UK doesn't grow rice. The products that would get higher taxes are the ones that were made in the West and nowmade in the 3rd world and many peoplein the first would love a job so they can afford to buy them. Many are now struggling to afford food.

This sector will continue to grow while no one does anything. All the remain side promise is it will get worse if the UK leaves

no the UK does not grow rice - but you need cheap rice because if not people have to buy it expensive. if british workers have to buy it expensive they need a higher salary (but not gain more prosperity with it because they use it for the expensive rice).
but this again makes british production more cost intensive and the products you want to export also.

so you need them more as they need you !!!!
THEY are used to sleep in tends - you are not !

Taxes would only effect countries witha large trde deficit with the 1st world. That was abvious but you didn't understand it.

don´t you fucking idot understand that every kind of tax effects the consumer?

don´t you monkey understand that it is not the wages what create prosperity but what you can buy with it?

So the people in the videos don't exist and the situation isn't getting worse. It's you who doesn't understand. I'm saying we go back to a time when the !st world exported to the 3rd and the 3rd world wasn't creating more millionaires and billionaires than the 1st. https://www.forbes.com/sites/pamelaa.../#3ab4e2947fb6 But you don't understand that because you're brainwashed.

when did i say that they do not exist?
you are the one who want to take them the little they have.

do you know what a business advantage is?

if porn producer A produce a scene for 1500 and sells it for 3000 he make 1500.
when now someone comes and produce the scene for 500 and sells it for 2500 he will make MORE money than A and everybody will buy from him as A is too expensive even when he makes less profit.

The problem with the EU is they are doing nothing to correct the top issues facing Europe. Such as Steel production. Cameron was allowed to get away with voting for no action to be taken to protect the European Steel manufacturers. So not only threatening British steel but also the rest of Europe. After China has won the steel industry do you think they will continue to dump it in Europe? What industries are safe so we can keep exporting to the 3rd world and not lose it to a few countries and billionaires in the 3rd.

China is Europe´s biggest buyer for steel now because the US put the tariffs.
the result of that is, that the US steel industry created a few more jobs in the USA.
but it is a sum game because other industries that need cheap steel for the products they export can not compete anymore and close.
best example is the US car industry. since trump the US car production went down 40%.
and 3 times more jibs got lost as where created in the steel production.

the other result of that tariffs is that China stopped to buy steel from US and buy it in the EU. and there they buy it from the countries that will STAY in the EU because they belong to the bigger market. and this is why the second biggest british steel producer declared last week bankruptcy - even before they leave.
yes maybe china will buy from you later steel again. but what can you offer them?
the one and only thing you can offer is a cheaper price - and a cheaper price will need a cheaper production and not higher wages.

Please tell us what industries are safe from countries where labour costs are 10% to 20% less than the 1st?

why industries should be safed from someone who can do the same job better and cheaper. did you ever understand what free market means?

the first and most important guideline of a free economy is that competition serves the welfare of the consumer.
what you actually want is deepest communism by telling people WHAT they have to buy and WHERE they have to buy it.

therefore your whole world view is contrary to the concept of freedom.
all you are babbling is AGAINST freedom, AGAINST democracy, AGAINST prosperity. you are an oxymoron

[Tasty1]

Netherlands is a tax haven also, But when somebody says that, our president gets angry and denies.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/0...prus-say-meps/

U2 and the Rolling Stones are also dutch rock bands. Hardly paying any tax

[CurrentlySober]

The reason she resigned was nothing to do with Brexit at all. It was to do with the date...

It is the end of May...

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

do you realize how you keep contradicting yourself?

Your command of English is letting you down. Won't explain what I said to bolster your ego.

you did not? so let me quote you:

what you said here is exactly that and additionally you proved that you know fuck about taxes. even to mention VAT together with building, fuel and employees shows, that you think that VAT is something that corporations have at the cost side. VAT is a tax ONLY for consumers.

Your command of English is letting you down. Won't explain what I said to bolster your ego.

no the UK does not grow rice - but you need cheap rice because if not people have to buy it expensive. if british workers have to buy it expensive they need a higher salary (but not gain more prosperity with it because they use it for the expensive rice).
but this again makes british production more cost intensive and the products you want to export also.

so you need them more as they need you !!!!
THEY are used to sleep in tends - you are not !

Your command of English is letting you down. Won't explain what I said to bolster your ego.

QUOTE]don´t you fucking idot understand that every kind of tax effects the consumer?

don´t you monkey understand that it is not the wages what create prosperity but what you can buy with it?[/QUOTE]Your command of English is letting you down. Won't explain what I said to bolster your ego.

when did i say that they do not exist?
you are the one who want to take them the little they have.

do you know what a business advantage is?

if porn producer A produce a scene for 1500 and sells it for 3000 he make 1500.
when now someone comes and produce the scene for 500 and sells it for 2500 he will make MORE money than A and everybody will buy from him as A is too expensive even when he makes less profit.

You need to learn business and how it works.

China is Europe´s biggest buyer for steel now because the US put the tariffs.

I've told you before I will not read anything that starts off with you lying.

why industries should be safed from someone who can do the same job better and cheaper. did you ever understand what free market means?

So that the 1st world remains the 1st world. Why are you determined it should be part of the 2nd world?

Thommy obviously cares little that his customers have no jobs and that his chances of selling to China are nil. Does he believe poverty will bring a revolution that will result in a socialist style dictatorship running Europe? So far any movement to the outer reaches of politics has been to the Right.

If the West does not do more to protect the jobs of it's people the majority of people will be far poorer than they are now. Over the last 50 years I've watched the slow erosion of industries, always with the promise that new ones would come along and replace the lost ones. Tell that to the people who lost their jobs in car manufacturers, Steel plants, Coal mines, etc. Even car manufacturers are going East. The jobs that are created are low paying, automated or in the 3rd world. Now the Internet is killing some of those jobs as people move to buying online. This means fewer pay tax and more need welfare so countries borrow more. But Thommy welcomes this.