Questions about ukrainian or russian girls?

[mrmarcman]

Ok, this may come off as a bit of bragging or do not know...but been to both Russia and Ukraine probably 50+ times...a lot of pros and cons...please share your experiences, by the way. Even if some girls see you as a "walking wallet" I prefer it 100+ times over this feminism movement...and I am not that worried by the way..my gf now is 24..lives in Odessa...working as police officer..for VERY little money....10000 UAH per month..around 400 dollars..

Especially smaller cities in Ukraine..like Cherkasy...Sumy...or even Kharkov...girls will be happy with 10% of what girls in Kiev and Odessa ask for..same in Russia..especially Siberia..cities like Togliatti..Voronezh..Irkutsk...the talent is amazing..we are talking Emily Ratajkowski...why go to Thailand? so far way...you have all of this in Europe...or part Asia...

You do not even need to make a lot of money...you can have a normal salary in the US or EU..and be a superstar...never cared about status..only real results...just my 0.02.

[mrmarcman]

The stories that stand out the most so far is Emiliya..17..from Chelyabinsk...in Russia in Siberia it can become very cold in the winter...so...can we go and buy a minkcoat from me"

Or Viktoriia in Odessa .."I want you to buy an apartment for me. What do you want in return?" Businesswomen..but..not all are like this..you can find a very simple and kind girl..that will be perfectly happy with being a housewife...

[Rochard]

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Meaning? Yes..she is a nice pilates wife)

[mrmarcman]

There were rumours Melania worked as a prostitute before....would not surprise me..1 out of 2 girls from eastern europe..at least 20 years ago..it was their only way...

[Klen]

Is this some misc way to promote your program lol

[CurrentlySober]

i cunt a4d2 go to both Russia and Ukraine probably 50+ times...

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

There were rumours Melania worked as a prostitute before....would not surprise me..1 out of 2 girls from eastern europe..at least 20 years ago..it was their only way...

No..seriously....just genuine interest..my program does not make much

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Is this some misc way to promote your program lol

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[ilnjscb]

So Kiev is bad for women or are you saying for talent. I like it. Podil (however you say that, you know, where Andrews descent is) is great on a Friday night - like the west village used to be. If I walk past the park and up the hill to St. Andrews I'll see 100 8+.

Are you talking for internationals or just people who can speak Ukrainian or Russian?

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

. . .

As if anyone makes any money in this business anymore

[Paul Markham]

I've known women from many countries. The women who were always able to wrap me round their fingers were the ones who pretended to let me be in charge. It was an illusion and I usually ended up doing what they told me to.

Feminist get my back up and I always go against them often when it makes no difference to me. I just hate being told what to do.

[just a punk]

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

As if anyone makes any money in this business anymore

There is money. It just takes too much work nowadays.

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I've known women from many countries. The women who were always able to wrap me round their fingers were the ones who pretended to let me be in charge. It was an illusion and I usually ended up doing what they told me to.

Feminist get my back up and I always go against them often when it makes no difference to me. I just hate being told what to do.

Well, I agree it is much more interesting if a girl likes you for who you are, not just your wallet. I just can not stand all this talk about social structures and such. Men and women are different biologically. But that women should be in the kitchen, sure...it can be a structure...look how many male chefs there are...Jamie Oliver..etc...
My personal preference is however, that I like when a girl serves me and does everything for me.

Also, this talk about that women in eastern europe often wants money - it is not connected only to eastern europe...I mean...say to a girl in the US or wherever..that you are unemployed for example..and it will be very bad....it is more how the priorities are...some girls do everything for money...while others just think it is a bonus..and some do not care at all..usually girls in small villages...yes..they are simple..but...they will usually stay with you if they really start to like you.

[just a punk]

Don't want to be used/manipulated by girls? Go to a sex club. I don't know about the Ukraine, but here in Moscow you will find many of them. They are not brothels and you won't pay for sex there (it is forbidden by the club rules), but you will pay for the entrance (you are watching their shows; using their rooms, showers, saunas, pools etc). Actually all the girls and couples you'll meet in the club must also pay for the entrance just like you. So if you need just just sex with multiple beautiful women, a nearest sex club is your choice

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

Well, I agree it is much more interesting if a girl likes you for who you are, not just your wallet. I just can not stand all this talk about social structures and such. Men and women are different biologically. But that women should be in the kitchen, sure...it can be a structure...look how many male chefs there are...Jamie Oliver..etc...
My personal preference is however, that I like when a girl serves me and does everything for me.

Also, this talk about that women in eastern europe often wants money - it is not connected only to eastern europe...I mean...say to a girl in the US or wherever..that you are unemployed for example..and it will be very bad....it is more how the priorities are...some girls do everything for money...while others just think it is a bonus..and some do not care at all..usually girls in small villages...yes..they are simple..but...they will usually stay with you if they really start to like you.

Eastern European girls are far less interested in money than Western Girls.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Eastern European girls are far less interested in money than Western Girls.

Can't say about girls, but many women here have pay to their lovers. A 30-50 year old well-off lady my afford to have a younger lover of two and fully pay for his life (apartments, cars, restaurants, touristic trips and other expenses).

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Can't say about girls, but many women here have pay to their lovers. A 30-50 year old well-off lady my afford to have a younger lover of two and fully pay for his life (apartments, cars, restaurants, touristic trips and other expenses).

Interesting. Where is this?

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Eastern European girls are far less interested in money than Western Girls.

Well, I would say it is up for debate. It is not all that black and white of course..and eastern europe is a pretty big area...czech girls have been very modest..I agree here..but if we talk about Ukraine..you can find some real golddiggers..and we are not just talking dinners and clothes...they want trips to cannes, maldives...that you have a Bentley..etc etc..

But in general I find a segment of girls in these countries I miss here to some extent also..more traditional girls.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

Interesting. Where is this?

Here in Russia: Альфонс.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

Well, I would say it is up for debate. It is not all that black and white of course..and eastern europe is a pretty big area...czech girls have been very modest..I agree here..but if we talk about Ukraine..you can find some real golddiggers..and we are not just talking dinners and clothes...they want trips to cannes, maldives...that you have a Bentley..etc etc..

But in general I find a segment of girls in these countries I miss here to some extent also..more traditional girls.

I agree with Paul. Most are not that interested in money. It's a benefit of course, and there are all sorts of gold diggers and scandalous sluts looking for "arrangements" but most aren't into it.

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Don't want to be used/manipulated by girls? Go to a sex club. I don't know about the Ukraine, but here in Moscow you will find many of them. They are not brothels and you won't pay for sex there (it is forbidden by the club rules), but you will pay for the entrance (you are watching their shows; using their rooms, showers, saunas, pools etc). Actually all the girls and couples you'll meet in the club must also pay for the entrance just like you. So if you need just just sex with multiple beautiful women, a nearest sex club is your choice

That is a good advice, it is on my to-do list.

Spasibo bolshoe'

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Here in Russia: Альфонс.

I did not hear of this in Russia of all countries..where many women expect the man to fix most stuff..interesting as I said...I know it is a phenomenon in Japan also with young male lovers...thanks for sharing.

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

So Kiev is bad for women or are you saying for talent. I like it. Podil (however you say that, you know, where Andrews descent is) is great on a Friday night - like the west village used to be. If I walk past the park and up the hill to St. Andrews I'll see 100 8+.

Are you talking for internationals or just people who can speak Ukrainian or Russian?

Depends what you mean with bad or what you want to achieve, but from my own experience, girls in Kiev as well as Odessa, are in general far more spoiled than in other smaller cities. This is not a phenomenon connected only to Ukraine though of course...and it is always best to judge by individuals..not as a group...of course I have met girls in Kiev who is happy with just a coffee also as date...just the risk of running into golddiggers is larger than in smaller cities..I would say. I agree the quality is amazing though....many looks like photomodels and would have no problems participating on TV for Victoria's Secret..

[MFCT]

I saw this video a while back. It gives good insight about women from this region. I don't necessarily agree with the "never marry" part. I prefer Eastern Euro women. As mentioned above, some women from this region are very happy to be a housewife and that's all they want out of life.



https://youtu.be/cpD4cHl3qAE

[nude images]

Slavic girls are very beautiful.

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by MFCT

I saw this video a while back. It gives good insight about women from this region. I don't necessarily agree with the "never marry" part. I prefer Eastern Euro women. As mentioned above, some women from this region are very happy to be a housewife and that's all they want out of life.



https://youtu.be/cpD4cHl3qAE

Yes. when it comes to beauty, not many can beat them..but some ukrainian girls have been among the most inadequate, difficult and unreasonable girls I have ever met. But as mentioned, better to judge by individuals. You can become both depressed or very happy after a trip to Ukraine for meeting girls there.

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by nude images

Slavic girls are very beautiful.

Very true

[MFCT]

Originally Posted by nude images

Slavic girls are very beautiful.

I heard a story once. The gist of it was: way back in the Middle Ages or some shit, there was this famous conqueror of history, perhaps Alexander the Great.

He'd conquer countries all over Europe and the Middle East. And bring back the most beautiful women to Russia with him, as his property. Kind of like slaves. They didn't go willingly.

These women were used mostly as currency, and had high value. Needless to say, after all was said and done, these women were bred quite heartily.

To this day, that area (Ukraine, western Russia) has a gene pool of extraordinarily beautiful women.

I believe I saw an old mainstream movie about this once, if I'm not mistaken. I have no idea what it was called. But a scene that stood out to me was this rich guy who was relaxing in this fancy chair. He explained matter-of-factly how things are going to be, to this beautiful young woman standing in front of him. She was angry and hostile.

"Look. I own you now. You're my wife. We are going to have sex. Now, its either going to happen with you kicking and screaming and fighting me. And you'll be hurt in the process. Or you can accept your fate, and make love to me willingly and with dignity, as a wife to her husband."

She thought about it silently for a minute. Then let her clothes fall to the floor.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by MFCT

I heard a story once. The gist of it was: way back in the Middle Ages or some shit, there was this famous conqueror of history, perhaps Alexander the Great.

He'd conquer countries all over Europe and the Middle East. And bring back the most beautiful women to Russia with him, as his property. Kind of like slaves. They didn't go willingly.

These women were used mostly as currency, and had high value. Needless to say, after all was said and done, these women were bred quite heartily.

To this day, that area (Ukraine, western Russia) has a gene pool of extraordinarily beautiful women.

I believe I saw an old mainstream movie about this once, if I'm not mistaken. I have no idea what it was called. But a scene that stood out to me was this rich guy who was relaxing in this fancy chair. He explained matter-of-factly how things are going to be, to this beautiful young woman standing in front of him. She was angry and hostile.

"Look. I own you now. You're my wife. We are going to have sex. Now, its either going to happen with you kicking and screaming and fighting me. And you'll be hurt in the process. Or you can accept your fate, and make love to me willingly and with dignity, as a wife to her husband."

She thought about it silently for a minute. Then let her clothes fall to the floor.

Alexander the great was Macedonian and lived before the roman classical period, 1500 years before 1200 common era. No regent in Russia did any of that after 1200. In fact, Russia was stripped of beautiful women by the vikings, mongols and the turks.

"Even after the Mongols’ often brutal two-century occupation came to an end, Russia’s wide-open terrain posed a terrible danger: the yearly “harvesting of the steppe” by slave raiders

The Ottoman Empire had arisen on the other side of the steppes, the southern portion of which was dominated by ferocious Mongol descendants such as the Crimean Khanate. Much of their economy was based on abducting Russians and other Slavs to sell for export to Ottoman, Egyptian, and Iranian merchants in the international slave markets."

Probably as little food as they had if the women weren't beautiful they starved to death. The pretty ones survived, and finally the men started defending them, instead of greasing their asses for every invader.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by MFCT

I heard a story once. The gist of it was: way back in the Middle Ages or some shit, there was this famous conqueror of history, perhaps Alexander the Great.

Middle Ages?

350bc only out by 1600 years.

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by MFCT

I heard a story once. The gist of it was: way back in the Middle Ages or some shit, there was this famous conqueror of history, perhaps Alexander the Great.

He'd conquer countries all over Europe and the Middle East. And bring back the most beautiful women to Russia with him, as his property. Kind of like slaves. They didn't go willingly.

These women were used mostly as currency, and had high value. Needless to say, after all was said and done, these women were bred quite heartily.

To this day, that area (Ukraine, western Russia) has a gene pool of extraordinarily beautiful women.

I believe I saw an old mainstream movie about this once, if I'm not mistaken. I have no idea what it was called. But a scene that stood out to me was this rich guy who was relaxing in this fancy chair. He explained matter-of-factly how things are going to be, to this beautiful young woman standing in front of him. She was angry and hostile.

"Look. I own you now. You're my wife. We are going to have sex. Now, its either going to happen with you kicking and screaming and fighting me. And you'll be hurt in the process. Or you can accept your fate, and make love to me willingly and with dignity, as a wife to her husband."

She thought about it silently for a minute. Then let her clothes fall to the floor.

Interesting. Did not know. My swedish friend is together with a girl from Lugansk..occupied territory...in Donbass region...so they always meet in Kiev or Sweden.

But if you go there...you will be a superstar...there is a lack of men also..due to the war....in Nikolaev..often called "the city of brides" rumours are there are four girls on 1 man....

But...we do not need to complicate things...just go to Kharkov..for example...big University city....and you will be a superstar.

My friend from Finland that is 55....was approached by a girl that is 17...on a café..
"Where are you from?"
Sure..he is working out and looks normal and such...but come on....would it happen in the US or in Sweden? Do not think so....
Ukraine has a lot to offer.

[Look Chang]

I found this pic of an Ukrainian girl and I'm dreaming...

[mrmarcman]

Originally Posted by Look Chang

I found this pic of an Ukrainian girl and I'm dreaming...

You can have lots of them) if you want further advice, feel free to contact me.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MFCT

To this day, that area (Ukraine, western Russia) has a gene pool of extraordinarily beautiful women.

The most beautiful women live in the Volga river region (Samara, Saratov etc) - I know what I'm talking about ;) It's is in Central Russia.

Originally Posted by Look Chang

I found this pic of an Ukrainian girl and I'm dreaming...

To be honest... That's just a regular girl. I bet I saw her 1000's times on the streets of Moscow. Because she has a very typical Slavic face - almost all young girls here look like that. So when you getting to your work and back every day, you may see 100 of such girls on the streets and in metro. Watch any documentary videos from Moscow or Kiev - they are everywhere.



^ Look at the brunette girl at the prank metro kissing video above. Change her hair to blond and correct her hair style and voilà - it's the same girl as on your photo, with the same face, same eyes, same body etc. It's attack of the clones, man!

P.S. This is why I rarely click on the threads with the US models here at GFY. I just don't see anything attractive there. I've been to the USA and saw some nice-looking girls there, but every time I was talking to them, they were Russian, Ukrainian, Estonian, Latvian, Belorussian, Czech, Slovakian, Slovenian etc.

[adultinnovation]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

why go to Thailand? so far way...you have all of this in Europe...or part Asia...

I had a Thai girlfriend for 1.6 years not long ago... Thai girls are fucking crazy.. Emotional wrecks.

Ukraine / Russian Girls are cold hearted...

I was in Ukraine like 10 years ago..

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by adultinnovation

Ukraine / Russian Girls are cold hearted...

With you - a foreign stranger, and you are nothing for them. They won't pretend like the Thai girls. If they don't like you, you will feel it immediately (they are bad actors). But I swear that many of them are ready to die for their man. Literally.

В беде она не сробеет, — спасет: Она коня на скаку остановит. В горящую избу войдет.

^ This is from Russian classic about our women. Many Russian women are much more brave and sacrificially than men, unfortunately.

[adultinnovation]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

With you - a foreign stranger, and you are nothing for them. They don't pretend like Thai girls. If they don't like you, you will feel it immediately (they are bad actors).

They are cold one day then warm the next... they are crazy.. like most girls are all crazy..

Stay single if you want to be happy. A female will always ruin your life eventually.

[adultinnovation]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

why go to Thailand? so far way...

I'm definitely going to retire in Thailand to one of the small Islands... Ko Samui.. etc...

I stayed on one for almost a month and I like the laid back vibe... peaceful and slow... and beautiful landscape and water..

and cheap as hell to buy a nice Condo.. or just rent..

[Klen]

Originally Posted by adultinnovation

Stay single if you want to be happy. A female will always ruin your life eventually.

But who will wash your cloth then ?

[klinton]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Russian, Ukrainian, Estonian, Latvian, Belorussian, Czech, Slovakian, Slovenian etc.

???? WHAT ABOUT POLISH ONES

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by klinton

???? WHAT ABOUT POLISH ONES

Haven't met them there. To be honest, I haven't been to Poland. Have a little knowledge about that country for the period after 1939 and I don't really know how regular Polish women do really look like. My own wife is 25% Polish and she is beautiful.

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

But who will wash your cloth then ?

And give you a good morning... borscht ;) Who will drive you on a car from parties when you are drunk? Who will clean your house? Who will take care about your old parents? Who will work to increase your family budget?

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

But who will wash your cloth then ?

. . .

[just a punk]

Here is Kiev again:



And Moscow of course - no kisses, because Moscow girls won't let you kiss them - they just allow to touch their boobs:









And you say they are cold? You just don't know how to warm 'em up

[MatureKing]

Thailand is our Sweet shit hole but in a good way

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MatureKing

Thailand is our Sweet shit hole but in a good way

And your way is a backdoor, right Jason? How many trannies were opening it?

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by MFCT

I heard a story once. The gist of it was: way back in the Middle Ages or some shit, there was this famous conqueror of history, perhaps Alexander the Great.

He'd conquer countries all over Europe and the Middle East. And bring back the most beautiful women to Russia with him, as his property. Kind of like slaves. They didn't go willingly.

These women were used mostly as currency, and had high value. Needless to say, after all was said and done, these women were bred quite heartily.

To this day, that area (Ukraine, western Russia) has a gene pool of extraordinarily beautiful women.

I believe I saw an old mainstream movie about this once, if I'm not mistaken. I have no idea what it was called. But a scene that stood out to me was this rich guy who was relaxing in this fancy chair. He explained matter-of-factly how things are going to be, to this beautiful young woman standing in front of him. She was angry and hostile.

"Look. I own you now. You're my wife. We are going to have sex. Now, its either going to happen with you kicking and screaming and fighting me. And you'll be hurt in the process. Or you can accept your fate, and make love to me willingly and with dignity, as a wife to her husband."

She thought about it silently for a minute. Then let her clothes fall to the floor.

[MatureKing]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

And your way is a backdoor, right Jason? How many trannies were opening it?

Someday man, pussies will take you down. And you remember one man who was in Thailand with goddess..

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by mrmarcman

Well, I would say it is up for debate. It is not all that black and white of course..and eastern europe is a pretty big area...czech girls have been very modest..I agree here..but if we talk about Ukraine..you can find some real golddiggers..and we are not just talking dinners and clothes...they want trips to cannes, maldives...that you have a Bentley..etc etc..

But in general I find a segment of girls in these countries I miss here to some extent also..more traditional girls.

If you've been brought up in a culture of living cheaply the majority of people are happy to live cheaply. Not saying there are no gold diggers but as you would be a tourist you're most likely to meet those gold diggers. Polish, Hungarian, Ukrainian, Czech girls, etc. Can live a month of what a London girl will blow in an day. I've experienced both and can testify it's easier to get a London girl to do porn than a Norfolk girl. Easier to get a Norfolk girl than a Czech girl (outside Prague) to do porn.

I soon discovered this after a few months in Czech.