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Paul Markham · 06-27-2019, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I agree with Paul. Most are not that interested in money. It's a benefit of course, and there are all sorts of gold diggers and scandalous sluts looking for "arrangements" but most aren't into it.

50 Ukrainian or Russian girls

Foreigners tend to only meet the gold diggers, ones attracted to the cities in the hope of making money.

Paul Markham · 06-27-2019, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MFCT

I saw this video a while back. It gives good insight about women from this region. I don't necessarily agree with the "never marry" part. I prefer Eastern Euro women. As mentioned above, some women from this region are very happy to be a housewife and that's all they want out of life.

https://youtu.be/cpD4cHl3qAE

What type of girl answers an ad for dating US, UK, Australian, etc men? Girls who want to change their lives in a big way = gold diggers.

just a punk · 06-27-2019, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Foreigners tend to only meet the gold diggers, ones attracted to the cities in the hope of making money.

Indeed. The tourists looking for girls in bars, restaurants, night clubs etc. They won't find there anybody but hunters. The girs that look for your money. Course there are good girls too, but a foreigner won't be able to find them, he will always get tricked and used.

In fact most of Russian/Ukrainian/Belorussian girls are good and definitely can't be called cold. However, you must be a local one and you have to know where and whom to look for. Even a prostitute here will make you a tea with home-made cookies, will listen to all your problems etc. But only if you are a local one. Many of them even put a restriction into their ads: "for Slavic people only". Sounds a bit nationalistic? Yes it is.

As far as I mentioned nationalism, I have to add that the only foreign guys they always happy to see are blacks. I mean the Africans (the people with African roots, e.g. African-Americans). Don't know why

I have mentioned Africans because the word "blacks" in Russia mostly means the people of Caucasus. While Africans are called "negs" (not niggaz, like in the USA which is an offensive word). Negr in Russian means a person of Negroid race. So if you are black man and you hear this word in Russia, it's not an offense it just mean that you are a person with Negroid roots.

ilnjscb · 06-27-2019, 10:32 AM

Yeah, that's only for fat old sex tourists. Women everywhere like to be with different people. If you make yourself safe, you'll get plenty of pussy

Grapesoda · 06-27-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmarcman

There were rumours Melania worked as a prostitute before....would not surprise me..1 out of 2 girls from eastern europe..at least 20 years ago..it was their only way...

I don't hold that against a woman at all. we all trying to get by best we can

MatureKing · 06-27-2019, 10:47 AM

Paul don't worry, call thai maid

Lexi BongaCash · 06-28-2019, 01:42 AM

First thing I can say - they are really beautiful and care so much about how they look. And they can cook well - it is like something in their genes haha. So yes, good choice

CaptainHowdy · 06-28-2019, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexi BongaCash

First thing I can say - they are really beautiful and care so much about how they look. And they can cook well - it is like something in their genes haha. So yes, good choice

Where are you from, Lexi ? ?

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I don't hold that against a woman at all. we all trying to get by best we can

Yeah I agree. Sorry if it came off looking like I did. In general girls from western europe or the US do not live in the reality. They are spoiled and self-righteous many times. They should spend a few weeks in Ukraine...and let us see how judgmental they will be after that.

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Indeed. The tourists looking for girls in bars, restaurants, night clubs etc. They won't find there anybody but hunters. The girs that look for your money. Course there are good girls too, but a foreigner won't be able to find them, he will always get tricked and used.

In fact most of Russian/Ukrainian/Belorussian girls are good and definitely can't be called cold. However, you must be a local one and you have to know where and whom to look for. Even a prostitute here will make you a tea with home-made cookies, will listen to all your problems etc. But only if you are a local one. Many of them even put a restriction into their ads: "for Slavic people only". Sounds a bit nationalistic? Yes it is.

As far as I mentioned nationalism, I have to add that the only foreign guys they always happy to see are blacks. I mean the Africans (the people with African roots, e.g. African-Americans). Don't know why

I have mentioned Africans because the word "blacks" in Russia mostly means the people of Caucasus. While Africans are called "negs" (not niggaz, like in the USA which is an offensive word). Negr in Russian means a person of Negroid race. So if you are black man and you hear this word in Russia, it's not an offense it just mean that you are a person with Negroid roots.

It helps a lot if you can speak russian also...and/or live there...at least part time...
But yes..it is difficult..foreigners have more money..if you want to pay..no problems...you will have many girls..but....they will leave when you stop paying....so to find a good girl...better try smaller cities...and also definitely not do like some tourists..especially turkish men coming to Odessa....to pay directly...the girls become spoiled.

just a punk · 06-28-2019, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmarcman

foreigners have more money..

Foreigners from which exactly country and more than who? The Ukraine is a real poor country, but there is a lot of rich people. As about Russia, so it's #2 in the world by the number of dollar billionaires. Poor people don't go to restaurants and clubs where a price of bottle of of champagne is up to 55,000 RUB ($860 USD). For example, a personal membership in "Soho Rooms" night club (Moscow) is €2000 a month. So it's a bit naive to thing you will be a richest guy in such places... Before the financial crisis of 2014 when US dollar was 2x times cheaper to rubble than now, one guy who I know has paid 120,000 RUB (about $4000 USD) for a night with a whore form one of these clubs. So that's just FYI.

just a punk · 06-28-2019, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmarcman

foreigners have more money..

Foreigners from which exactly country and more than who?

The Ukraine is a real poor country, but there is a lot of rich people. As about Russia, so it's #2 in the world by the number of dollar billionaires. Poor people don't go to restaurants and clubs where a price of champagne is 18,000 ... 55,000 RUB (~ $280 USD ... $860 USD) per a bottle. For example, a personal membership in "Soho Rooms" night club (Moscow) is €2000 a month. So it's a bit naive to think you will be a richest guy in such places... Before the financial crisis of 2014 when US dollar was 2x times cheaper to rubble than now, one guy who I know has paid 120,000 RUB (about $4000 USD) for a night with a whore form one of these clubs. Yes, when we are talking about pubs, so the Moscow price for an alcohol is about twice cheaper than say in London, but it's still pricey, so poor people don't hang out in pubs. That's a fatal mistake for the foreigners that think they will be kings with their money here...

That's just FYI.

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Foreigners from which exactly country and more than who?

The Ukraine is a real poor country, but there is a lot of rich people. As about Russia, so it's #2 in the world by the number of dollar billionaires. Poor people don't go to restaurants and clubs where a price of bottle of of champagne is up to 55,000 RUB (~ $860 USD). For example, a personal membership in "Soho Rooms" night club (Moscow) is €2000 a month. So it's a bit naive to thing you will be a richest guy in such places... Before the financial crisis of 2014 when US dollar was 2x times cheaper to rubble than now, one guy who I know has paid 120,000 RUB (about $4000 USD) for a night with a whore form one of these clubs. Yes, when we are talking about pubs, so the price for an alcohol is about twice cheaper in Moscow than say in London, but it's still pricey, so poor people don't hang out in pubs. That's a fatal mistake for the foreigners that think they will be kings with their money here...
That's just FYI.

Of course. You do not need to tell me

) there is no middleclass in Ukraine..same in Russia....10% are superrich....so yes...there are many rich people in Ukraine...if we talk about actual figures...I am talking about the other 90%..that makes about 10.000 UAH per month...around 300 dollars...

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Foreigners from which exactly country and more than who?

The Ukraine is a real poor country, but there is a lot of rich people. As about Russia, so it's #2 in the world by the number of dollar billionaires. Poor people don't go to restaurants and clubs where a price of champagne is 18,000 ... 55,000 RUB (~ $280 USD ... $860 USD) per a bottle. For example, a personal membership in "Soho Rooms" night club (Moscow) is €2000 a month. So it's a bit naive to thing you will be a richest guy in such places... Before the financial crisis of 2014 when US dollar was 2x times cheaper to rubble than now, one guy who I know has paid 120,000 RUB (about $4000 USD) for a night with a whore form one of these clubs. Yes, when we are talking about pubs, so the price for an alcohol is about twice cheaper in Moscow than say in London, but it's still pricey, so poor people don't hang out in pubs. That's a fatal mistake for the foreigners that think they will be kings with their money here...
That's just FYI.

I do not believe I am the richest guy in those places. Read my previous post.

just a punk · 06-28-2019, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmarcman

there is no middleclass in Ukraine..same in Russia....10% are superrich....

Who do you think am I then? I don't visit night clubs because I feel too old for that shit (don't like laugh dancing music and don't consider those places funny), but I like to hang out in pubs and visit casinos from time to time. Which class I do represent here?

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Originally Posted by mrmarcman

Of course. You do not need to tell me

) there is no middleclass in Ukraine..same in Russia....10% are superrich....so yes...there are many rich people in Ukraine...if we talk about actual figures...I am talking about the other 90%..that makes about 10.000 UAH per month...around 300 dollars...

You won't a single one of them in those places. So you definitely won't be the richest guy among the visitors of night clubs.

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Who do you think am I then? I don't visit night clubs because I feel too old for that shit (don't like laugh dancing music and don't consider those places funny), but I like to hang out in pubs and visit casinos from time to time. Which class I do represent here?

You won't a single one of them in those places. So you definitely won't be the richest guy among the visitors of night clubs.

Do you want to have a constructive discussion or just want to stir up shit?
I have been in Ukraine 5+ times per year since 2011...so...I would like to believe I have a pretty good understanding of ukrainian girls and how they function and what they need...feel free to prove me wrong.

just a punk · 06-28-2019, 06:37 AM

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I have been in Ukraine 5+ times per year since 2011

I've never been to the Ukraine and I know it's a very poor country (the poorest one in Europe), but you have mentioned Russia. And I really want to know what exactly you consider a middle class here.

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Do you want to have a constructive discussion or just want to stir up shit?

Yes, I want. You said there is no middle class in Russia, so I want you to explain it on my example. I'm a programmer. If think that a programmer is a rare profession in Russia, so you are wrong (I'd say that Russia is a country of coders). But ok, let's take someone much more usual than an IT specialist.

My brother in law is an office clerk. His wife is an office clerk too. They are absolutely regular people and they have no super-duper salaries according to the Moscow level. So they have their own apartments here, a good car (Nissan Murano), an own dacha, which is yet another suburban house with a land (yes they have city apartments and a house outside the city). They go to vacations about two times a year (for about 10-12 days at once) to visit Cyprus, Greece, Mexico, Dominica, Thailand, Cuba and other resort countries, because they like to travel. Please tell me which exactly class these two Moscow clerks are belong too according to your criteria?

Please don't stir up shit. Just give me your answer to the straight question above.

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I've never been to the Ukraine and I know it's a very poor country (the poorest one in Europe), but you have mentioned Russia.

Yes, I want. You said there is no middle class in Russia, so I want you to explain it on my example. I'm a programmer. If think that programmer is a rare profession in Russia, so you are wrong (I's say that Russia is a country of coders). But ok, let's take someone much more usual than an IT specialist.

My brother in law is an office clerk. His wife is an office clerk too. They are absolutely regular people and they have no super-duper salaries according to the Moscow level. So they have their own apartments here, a good car (Nissan Murano), an own dacha, which is yet another suburban house with a land (yes they have a city apartments and a house outside the city). They go to vacations about two times a year (for about 10-12 days at once) to visit Cyprus, Greece, Mexico, Dominica, Thailand, Cuba and other resort countries, because they like to travel. Please tell me which exactly class these two Moscow clerks are belong too according to your criteria?

Please don't stir up shit. Just give me your answer to the straight question above.

I thought we were talking about Ukraine and not Russia. It is not so black and white by the way.

Moscow is not Russia. 12 million people is not so much compared to 140+ million people. I already said there are always people who has money. But Moscow is not representative here. Go to a village, and you will see old women that is riding a horse and a carriage.

just a punk · 06-28-2019, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmarcman

I thought we were talking about Ukraine and not Russia. It is not so black and white by the way.

I thought we were talking about both and I thought you said this:

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there is no middleclass in Ukraine..same in Russia....10% are superrich....

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Moscow is not Russia. 12 million people is not so much compared to 140+ million people.

Moscow population is over 15 million people + Moscow Oblast. So the whole Moscow region is about 25 millions of citizens which is about 18% of whole Russian population. Also don't forget about other big cities like Saint Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Sochi, Ufa, Novosibirsk etc.

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Go to a village, and you will see old women that is riding a horse and a carriage.

There are no villages in Russia. They are dead long time ago. Literately and unfortunately - Putin has finally killed them. The overage village in Russia looks like a few houses where local grandpas, grandmas and alcoholics live their last days. If you look at the space map of Russia at night, you will see that almost all the population lives in the cities. Mostly in the big ones (1+ million citizens).

The most of territory is unpopulated like in Australia and Canada:

mrmarcman · 06-28-2019, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I thought we were talking about both and I thought you said this:

Moscow population is over 15 million people + Moscow Oblast. So the whole Moscow region is about 25 millions of citizens which is about 18% of whole Russian population. Also don't forget about other big cities like Saint Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Sochi, Ufa, Novosibirsk etc.

There are no villages in Russia. They are dead long time ago. Literately and unfortunately - Putin has finally killed them. The overage village in Russia looks like a few houses where local grandpas, grandmas and alcoholics live their last days. If you look at the space map of Russia at night, you will see that almost all the population lives in the cities. Mostly in the big ones (1+ million citizens).

In that case you know more than I do

ilnjscb · 06-28-2019, 03:28 PM

I like Ukraine, I like Russia. Whether I could live in either country is another matter.

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