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Old 08-01-2019, 12:54 AM   #51
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Fiddy Crickets dis-respecting Navy Veterans.

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Old 08-01-2019, 05:51 AM   #52
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You know, I have a Navy hat, I don't wear it, I don't wear hats. Only thing on my pickup is a license plate frame that says silent service. As to Crickets claim we didn't do anything dangerous, I doubt he would say that on a submarine as we were at hazardous duty at all times due to what our general mission was.

In my life time, two US submarines have sank, the Thresher and the Scorpion.

Cricket I'm sure served as no more that a butt plug tester, do they give uniforms for that?
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:00 AM   #53
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You know, I have a Navy hat, I don't wear it, I don't wear hats. Only thing on my pickup is a license plate frame that says silent service. As to Crickets claim we didn't do anything dangerous, I doubt he would say that on a submarine as we were at hazardous duty at all times due to what our general mission was.

In my life time, two US submarines have sank, the Thresher and the Scorpion.
I have 2 Navy hats that I do wear. Neither of them are from my time in, both are from my son. One is just a NAVY hat, the other is one of his ship hats.

I wear them because I like them.

And yes, it does take some balls to serve on a sub, especially an SSBN but even an SSN is a shit load scarier than a surface ship. Anything that you can't just jump off of if it's going down is definitely not for me.

Me, I was never on a ship. They don't let people like me on ships ;p They put people like me on little tiny bases where we can spy on Ivan's subs from afar.

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Old 08-01-2019, 07:38 AM   #54
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Why not? You should wear it. Be proud of your time in the service and share a picture too.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:44 AM   #55
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Why not? You should wear it. Be proud of your time in the service and share a picture too.
Because a gentleman removes his hat when indoors and leaves it off for the rest of his life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:46 AM   #56
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Fiddy Crickets dis-respecting Navy Veterans.

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Vendildo was one of the guys who said John Kerry was a fraud...He supporters Trump who constantly trashes members of the service and disrespects their service.

Trump kicked 250 vets out of the US. Soldiers who did their part and signed up to fight for the US in exchange for legal immigration and Trump kicked them out.

Sorry dont give me sob stories about disrespecting troops.. while at the same time praising vendildo the guy who supported all of the above ..
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:18 AM   #57
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Vendildo was one of the guys who said John Kerry was a fraud...He supporters Trump who constantly trashes members of the service and disrespects their service.

Trump kicked 250 vets out of the US. Soldiers who did their part and signed up to fight for the US in exchange for legal immigration and Trump kicked them out.

Sorry dont give me sob stories about disrespecting troops.. while at the same time praising vendildo the guy who supported all of the above ..

I did not praise Vendzilla that I am aware of.

I have left this topic pretty much alone although it really pissed me off.

Fact - Sub duty is dangerous. You are in a tin can under the water. If it is an SSBN you are under water up to 6 months at a time. An SSN not so much but still, no way out. Most submariners I know are a bit off kilter, often due to having been on a sub.

I was in the Navy for 8 years and any other member of the Navy is a brother of mine and just like any brothers, you might not like them or agree with everything about them but you still have their back.

None of the things that you do not like about Vendzilla have anything to do with his having served in the Navy with the exception that it tends to come up pretty often. But so does Rochard's Marine service.

I realize you are only using his service as a weapon against him to get a rise from him but at the same time, you are pissing off a whole lot of other people whether you mean to or not.

My father was in the Navy before me, my son is currently in the Navy and chose it as a career. My father was proud of his service, I am proud of the time I served and my son is proud of his service.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of having served your country no matter what service you were in or what time frame you served.

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Old 08-01-2019, 09:31 AM   #58
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My son and I toured a sub many years ago. No fucking way in hell could you get me on one of those things for 90 days. No fucking way. I would lose my shit in about 5 days and have to be heavily sedated for the duration.


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Old 08-01-2019, 11:13 AM   #59
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My son and I toured a sub many years ago. No fucking way in hell could you get me on one of those things for 90 days. No fucking way. I would lose my shit in about 5 days and have to be heavily sedated for the duration.


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I did a 3 day trip from Bermuda to Norfolk as a guest aboard the USS Tullibee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tullibee_(SSN-597). For that trip there was a skeleton crew on about 30 people and then another 30 or 40 guests. Still it was extremely tight quarters.

The Tullibee was built for a crew of 60 or 70 and when they pulled into Bermuda there were 155 crew aboard. They were hotracking (sharing beds, someone else uses your bed while you are on duty and vice versa) and had racks set up everywhere. Some were sleeping on top of the torpedoes.

I cannot even imagine a day or 2 under those conditions, much less a full deployment.

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One of my brothers was on a nuke sub, 6 months at a stretch under water.

One time they had a family cruise and he invited my dad and me to do a weekend. Initially I was going to do it, but bailed at the last minute.

My dad went and got his submarine "drivers license"; I guess he really enjoyed it.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:25 AM   #61
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No fucking way in hell could you get me on one of those things for 90 days. No fucking way. I would lose my shit in about 5 days and have to be heavily sedated for the duration.
I would have a blast being trapped with a bunch of seamen...for about 12 hours. then I'd be clawing the walls searching for an escape hatch and yeah, would probably need sedation. can't even be home for too long with the drapes closed, need my fresh air and sunshine

serving on a sub does not look like easy work in any way
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Old 08-01-2019, 01:25 PM   #62
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I have been to this German WWII sub

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-995



The modern American or Russian nuclear subs are like ballrooms in comparison, in that German thing you wouldn't get me alive and those guys back then must have really been crazy.
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Old 08-01-2019, 02:01 PM   #63
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I did not praise Vendzilla that I am aware of.

I have left this topic pretty much alone although it really pissed me off.

Fact - Sub duty is dangerous. You are in a tin can under the water. If it is an SSBN you are under water up to 6 months at a time. An SSN not so much but still, no way out. Most submariners I know are a bit off kilter, often due to having been on a sub.

I was in the Navy for 8 years and any other member of the Navy is a brother of mine and just like any brothers, you might not like them or agree with everything about them but you still have their back.

None of the things that you do not like about Vendzilla have anything to do with his having served in the Navy with the exception that it tends to come up pretty often. But so does Rochard's Marine service.

I realize you are only using his service as a weapon against him to get a rise from him but at the same time, you are pissing off a whole lot of other people whether you mean to or not.

My father was in the Navy before me, my son is currently in the Navy and chose it as a career. My father was proud of his service, I am proud of the time I served and my son is proud of his service.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of having served your country no matter what service you were in or what time frame you served.

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No, it's as I said that he always tries to shove it in everyone's face when he loses arguments..
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Old 08-01-2019, 04:30 PM   #64
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No, it's as I said that he always tries to shove it in everyone's face when he loses arguments..
That is still no reason to denigrate all Navy Veterans.

Just imho of course.

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I did a 3 day trip from Bermuda to Norfolk as a guest aboard the USS Tullibee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tullibee_(SSN-597). For that trip there was a skeleton crew on about 30 people and then another 30 or 40 guests. Still it was extremely tight quarters.

The Tullibee was built for a crew of 60 or 70 and when they pulled into Bermuda there were 155 crew aboard. They were hotracking (sharing beds, someone else uses your bed while you are on duty and vice versa) and had racks set up everywhere. Some were sleeping on top of the torpedoes.

I cannot even imagine a day or 2 under those conditions, much less a full deployment.

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Last year I spent a month in Mobile Alabama, and toured the USS Alabama and the submarine, the USS Drum. The USS Alabama was pretty fucking tight quarters, and that's a battleship. But I thought I was going to have a fucking panic attack just being inside the USS Drum, and I noticed several of the racks were set up over top of torpedoes. It takes a special breed to be able to sleep like that...
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Last year I spent a month in Mobile Alabama, and toured the USS Alabama and the submarine, the USS Drum. The USS Alabama was pretty fucking tight quarters, and that's a battleship. But I thought I was going to have a fucking panic attack just being inside the USS Drum, and I noticed several of the racks were set up over top of torpedoes. It takes a special breed to be able to sleep like that...
Reading your quote of my post I realized I had a typo in there. There were about 115 crew aboard the Tullibee when it pulled into Bermuda, not 155. I don't think you could get 155 on that boat. It is/was the smallest of the Nuclear subs I think.

I was quite claustrophobic for the first part of the trip. Kept in the mess area because there was at least room to stretch there. Banged my head going through the hatches quite a few times. Not made for people over 6 foot, lol.

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