wankawonk

Just looking for opinions on this:

Does the number of outbound links on a domain affect the link juice given by a particular page on that domain?

For example, imagine a directory site like theporndude.com that lists hundreds of other sites

The home page links to reviews of all the sites

The review pages only link to the site being reviewed (not to the hundreds of other sites that theporndude lists)

So theporndude, has hundreds of pages that link to an external site...but each page that links to an external site, only has 1 outbound link

So, do you actually get link juice if you get a review on theporndude or similar sites? You get a page on that site with only 1 outbound link (the link to your site)...but the domain as a whole has hundreds or thousands of outbound links.

How much does the outbound links of the domain as a whole, affect how much link juice is passed by a single (low outbound links) page on that domain?

AdultKing

Read this.

https://moz.com/learn/seo/what-is-link-equity

wankawonk

i want to know what your other projects are because you clearly know stuff but what you're doing with node.xxx is just....not optimal

but the link you gave really doesn't address the question: how much does an entire domains OBL count affect the link juice ("equity") given by a link on a particular low-OBL page on that domain?

AdultKing

node.xxx is a work in progress and from the next update will be disallowed from crawling by other search engines. I agree the front end needs work but the back end takes most of my time.

wankawonk

how the fuck do you expect to get traffic then? your site has been up for years, i've taken sites from 0 users to 100k+/day in the time its taken node.xxx to get nowhere

AdultKing

Noted thanks.

I would work by the rule of thumb that whatever you do needs to be good for users.

In the context of a porn listing site is having one page full of outbound links with simple anchor text good for users, or would it be better to link to a page explaining the site (relevancy) you are linking to with a link be better?

In my opinion, having lots of links on one page devalues them all. Linking from content that is relevant to what you are linking to is much more valuable.

In the overall, links play less and less of a role in determining ranking. They are one of many signals and I think Google could probably do away with using link equity to rank sites and still return meaningful results.

wankawonk

that's why node.xxx has no users 3+ years after launching. you haven't built a crawlable site structure, you haven't built backlinks, you haven't built landers aimed at high CTR. you think if you focus on the users, the traffic will come...but it won't in this industry.

AdultKing

Noted, thanks.

brassmonkey

you have to test. lol @ trying to get free seo advise

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Denny

You get probably, but not much. More link juice gets the review page itself as it's linked from the homepage.

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wankawonk

oh fuck off. you want free SEO advice? go look at https://www.semrush.com/ranking-factors/

read gotchSEO anchor text optimization advice

follow that shit you can rank your site, assuming you have a decent site (which most people don't)

contribute to the thread or gtfo

femdomdestiny

A lot of questions and no simple answer. As always,it depends on multiple factors. IN particular case of porndude, yes, you will get link juice if they give you dofollow link. From what I am seeing on few pages randomly checked, these are not DO follow.

Nofollow links are part of healthy lin profile so that's fine but it would be nice that those on porndude are dofollow considering that their trust flow is 30 which is high.

In the end, it is about relevancy (topical trust flow) and quality and not about insane amounts of useless and non-relevant link. You can get a better position in SERPS with only a few relevant links in same niche authority sites. The trick is to know how to spot and see is some link valuable and how to pair it with the rest of SEO efforts.

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wankawonk

based on how many adult sites I see ranking with hacked hidden backlinks on mainstream WP sites I'm going with, this isn't true and shit is more complicated than you think

no offense of course, I've bought links from you. I believe in quality and long-term rankings too...but its clear in adult, other rules apply

femdomdestiny

well, this is a common thing the majority of webmaster says. But in reality, every keyword you want to target has to be examined. 99% of people never do that. This means sorting out top 10 ranked sites in the location you are targeting for each keyword, then examining overall strength of their link profile (trust flow, citation flow) and then see their onsite SEO. This is the only way and only after doing it, you can say something is wrong.

Sometimes sites not worth the position get on the first page but that is usually for a short time period.

95% keywords I was targeting and did things by the book ranked and if it stopped on some position, it was only and only because of link profile wasn't strong enough. I think I've shown here on GFY (a long time ago) how a targeted keyword o my site went over ponrhub,xvideos and other top sites at that moment.

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wankawonk

that statement is completely wrong based on how I have made my living (in the most expensive state in the most expensive country in the world) for half a decade

i'll still buy links from your sites tho :P

brassmonkey

you want to buy or submit to these type of sites... just do it! it varies if you want to sit and rainman that shit go for it.

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The only thing I can say that I am speechless after the previous statement.

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wankawonk

well, try running multi-niche tubes and see how you feel after a few years

trevesty

Domain is kind of irrelevant, as Google will treat each page differently in most use cases... unless the domain is sandboxed or otherwise has a manual action, of course.

100 OBL links on the home page is irrelevant to only having one OBL on say, the review page because they're separate pages. As long as Google thinks it's all good in context, like TPD, then you're good to go. It makes sense for TPD to have a lot of outbound links. The link equity the domain and index especially have, though, is way more than most sites.

So yes, a link from there is beneficial, especially if it's above-the-fold. A couple of your competitors have came in and gotten nearly as big as PBWeb with mostly links from TPD and other sites like it.

Rednax

No. And on a page basis, I believe Google has placed much less weight on PageRank and internal link sculpting. I don't worry about linking out to (quality) external domains nearly as much these days, it's more natural anyway.

User behavior, clickstream data, etc etc... more important. A few good trusted/authority links in adult, some time and patience - serp ctr, time on site, more important. One nofollow backlink from theporndude likely helps with the traffic it sends/some trust signals.