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HairyChick · 09-09-2019, 06:25 PM

I just read the story and wondered what would happen and who’d be charged. The child has to live with the fact that they accidentally killed a cousin. The adult/parent put the baby in bed with the child when you’re taught to not do that. If they are dumb, should they be held responsible for the death?

Bronx baby dies after 5-year-old cousin rolls over her in bed

A Bronx baby sharing a bed with her 5-year-old cousin was found dead early Monday after the older child accidentally rolled over and apparently smothered her, police sources said.
Six-month-old Ziebella Thorne-Young was found unconscious at 1:15 a.m. inside an apartment at Butler Houses on Webster Avenue near East 170 Street in Claremont Village, police said.

The sleeping tot was sharing a small bed with her 5-year-old cousin when the older girl accidentally rolled over onto her as they were sleeping, according to police sources.

First responders rushed the infant to BronxCare Health System, where she was pronounced dead, police said.

The medical examiner will determine the cause of death, but cops have not ruled the incident suspicious, and sources believe the cousin accidentally smothered her.

The young girl was staying at her aunt’s apartment when she was killed, sources said.

Her mother had previously been reported to ACS, but the details of the complaint and whether its related to the incident were unclear.

King Mark · 09-09-2019, 06:32 PM

Probably the most ridiculous question I've witnessed... how the fuck you going to hold a 5 year old accountable for some shit she did in her sleep?

Anyway, this is my neighborhood. I was conceived in those projects. True story.

bronco67 · 09-10-2019, 08:48 AM

The parents are dumb for not thinking ahead, but I don't think they could or should be charged with murder. Isn't it bad enough they have to live with their stupid decision for the rest of their lives?

It's a parent's job to make sure their child gets out of it's most vulnerable period alive. If they fail in that regard due to making dumb, shortsighted choices then they probably shouldn't have ever had children in the first place.

NoWhErE · 09-10-2019, 09:14 AM

WTF is wrong with you to even consider making the 5 year old responsible for this?

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 10:48 AM

I say charge the parents (actually probably just parent because we know the daddy isn't around).

These losers don't give 2 fucks about their kids. They have them as a means of survival. They would be homeless and starving without their government checks.

King Mark · 09-10-2019, 11:07 AM

^define "these people"

brassmonkey · 09-10-2019, 12:33 PM

jeezus pam

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

jeezus pam

lol

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

^define "these people"

Usually poor, uneducated, and very lazy people that work the system by having kids so the government can provide them with free housing and lots of gibs. And they do come in all colors, shapes and sizes.

There's nothing wrong with getting a helping hand when needed. People lose their job and shit happens. But when you have 3 (and i've shockingly seen) 4 generations of people milking the system, they are shit useless humans that need to have their bloodline culled.

King Mark · 09-10-2019, 01:06 PM

^what makes you automatically assume these parents fit your proposed stereotype?

For instance, I was conceived right there where this happened and raised a flew blocks up in the fordham section of the same street (webster ave). Yet you the one begging me for gibs here: https://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and...king-mark.html

What makes you assume they're not like I was before I made my escape out of that trap? Working my way out.

Answer honestly...

brassmonkey · 09-10-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Usually poor, uneducated, and very lazy people that work the system by having kids so the government can provide them with free housing and lots of gibs. And they do come in all colors, shapes and sizes.

There's nothing wrong with getting a helping hand when needed. People lose their job and shit happens. But when you have 3 (and i've shockingly seen) 4 generations of people milking the system, they are shit useless humans that need to have their bloodline culled.

you sit on a comp all day shuffling shit message board post! thanx for your part to the usa!!! do you think sids is something only poor people encounter?? it's the opposite of poor and it kills every year.

King Mark · 09-10-2019, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you sit on a comp all day shuffling shit message board post! thanx for your part to the usa!!! do you think sids is something only poor people encounter?? it's the opposite of poor and it kills every year.

And they call the leftards hateful.

The leftards are cry babies, yeah. But these dudes are just so full of hate and anger... just insults and negativity, separation and destruction... and mostly about nothing burgers.

Then when you give it back to them they wanna play victim. This is the wackest era of politics ever.

brassmonkey · 09-10-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

And they call the leftards hateful.

The leftards are cry babies, yeah. But these dudes are just so full of hate and anger... just insults and negativity, separation and destruction... and mostly about nothing burgers.

Then when you give it back to them they wanna play victim. This is the wackest era of politics ever.

they put plastic on a bed to avoid piss on the mattress. that kills the baby...

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

^what makes you automatically assume these parents fit your proposed stereotype?

For instance, I was conceived right there where this happened and raised a flew blocks up in the fordham section of the same street (webster ave). Yet you the one begging me for gibs here: https://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and...king-mark.html

What makes you assume they're not like I was before I made my escape out of that trap? Working my way out.

Answer honestly...

Did you miss the part where I said:"There's nothing wrong with getting a helping hand when needed. People lose their job and shit happens."?

Getting the gibs is not a career. Getting the gibs should help you get stable till youre able to work and get get an education.

And if you grew up in those sections you know damn well there are many generations of habitual welfare abusers.

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

And they call the leftards hateful.

The leftards are cry babies, yeah. But these dudes are just so full of hate and anger... just insults and negativity, separation and destruction... and mostly about nothing burgers.

Then when you give it back to them they wanna play victim. This is the wackest era of politics ever.

What did I say that's hateful? I didn't single out a race. I just said there are people that have kids to get free housing and money. It's a lifestyle and career choice for some of these people.

Am I wrong?

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

Yet you the one begging me for gibs here: https://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and...king-mark.html

Obviously I was fucking around with a "review copy." Have you ever spent anytime on a mainstream webmaster forum?

C'mon dude, you're no fun anymore.

brassmonkey · 09-10-2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What did I say that's hateful? I didn't single out a race. I just said there are people that have kids to get free housing and money. It's a lifestyle and career choice for some of these people.

Am I wrong?

you say shit without a solution.

so you become part of the problem just like "carrier welfare". i have never seen you post a solution to anything you say. it's like shitting in a clogged toilet

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you say shit without a solution.

so you become part of the problem just like "carrier welfare". i have never seen you post a solution to anything you say. it's like shitting in a clogged toilet

What, I'm not allowed to comment on something unless I have a solution? Moron.

And we all know what the solution is but that would mean you'd have to place the blame on the people that are responsible for their own actions...and we know you will not be able to do that

King Mark · 09-10-2019, 02:26 PM

I like how this guy has a magical solution for a problem he imagined from an assumption he's ashamed to admit. Trump supporters in a nutshell.

AmateurFlix · 09-10-2019, 02:27 PM

That must've been one large 5 year old to be big enough to smother someone accidentally

brassmonkey · 09-10-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What, I'm not allowed to comment on something unless I have a solution? Moron.

And we all know what the solution is but that would mean you'd have to place the blame on the people that are responsible for their own actions...and we know you will not be able to do that

you saying because they are on welfare they kill kids is evil shit! so are you racist asshole!

OneHungLo · 09-10-2019, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you saying because they are on welfare they kill kids is evil shit! so are you racist asshole!

WTF. I said nothing of the sort. I said some of these people don't give a shit about their kids. The kids are a means to an end. Their health, safety and future well being aren't even an after thought.

You act like this shit doesn't go on.

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The young girl was staying at her aunt’s apartment when she was killed, sources said.

Her mother had previously been reported to ACS, but the details of the complaint and whether its related to the incident were unclear.

^ Shit it even said the mother was reported to child services in the article.

brassmonkey · 09-10-2019, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

WTF. I said nothing of the sort. I said some of these people don't give a shit about their kids. The kids are a means to an end. Their health, safety and future well being aren't even an after thought.

You act like this shit doesn't go on.

^ Shit it even said the mother was reported to child services in the article.

you skimmed right over the sids part... no doubt you would

HairyChick · 09-10-2019, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

Probably the most ridiculous question I've witnessed... how the fuck you going to hold a 5 year old accountable for some shit she did in her sleep?

Anyway, this is my neighborhood. I was conceived in those projects. True story.

Exactly but people are blaming the kid for this. Bad enough for the kid to know that happened

HairyChick · 09-10-2019, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

jeezus pam

That’s how I felt about people thinking the kid is responsible. Jeez. The kid was not responsible imho. Adults put the kid there without thinking about the consequences.

baddog · 09-10-2019, 06:52 PM

If you EVER posted your source it would make it a lot easier to decide if you are fucking nuts or not.

SBJ · 09-10-2019, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

If you EVER posted your source it would make it a lot easier to decide if you are fucking nuts or not.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/bronx-...er-her-in-bed/

and another thread that started as news that became political.

baddog · 09-10-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/bronx-...er-her-in-bed/

and another thread that started as news that became political.

Not seeing "the people" she speaks of; but that's okay.

TheLegacy · 09-11-2019, 08:15 AM

As a father of 5 kids I know simply by common sense that you do not allow that for this very reason among others. The parents should have known better that this is a dangerous situation at any time.

JesseQuinn · 09-11-2019, 08:24 AM

oh please, you're a bad caregiver if every kid can't have their own bed? yes that is ideal but welcome to life, sometimes you gotta make do

know nothing about this other than the info posted in Pam's OP. according to that a child who had a mother who had an ACS complaint against her was staying with her aunt

not sure if that is even relevant. I have the best mom in the world (yeah I'm calling it) and I slept over at my aunts homes all the time. with one aunt I shared a bed with my cousin, it was fun. the concord to fly to Paris was down so...

no one did anything wrong here. a tragic accident

RIP

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09-09-2019, 06:25 PM	#1
HairyChick Slowly dying Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Padanaram Posts: 3,091	Who Is Responsible? Adult or Child? I just read the story and wondered what would happen and who’d be charged. The child has to live with the fact that they accidentally killed a cousin. The adult/parent put the baby in bed with the child when you’re taught to not do that. If they are dumb, should they be held responsible for the death? Bronx baby dies after 5-year-old cousin rolls over her in bed A Bronx baby sharing a bed with her 5-year-old cousin was found dead early Monday after the older child accidentally rolled over and apparently smothered her, police sources said. Six-month-old Ziebella Thorne-Young was found unconscious at 1:15 a.m. inside an apartment at Butler Houses on Webster Avenue near East 170 Street in Claremont Village, police said. The sleeping tot was sharing a small bed with her 5-year-old cousin when the older girl accidentally rolled over onto her as they were sleeping, according to police sources. First responders rushed the infant to BronxCare Health System, where she was pronounced dead, police said. The medical examiner will determine the cause of death, but cops have not ruled the incident suspicious, and sources believe the cousin accidentally smothered her. The young girl was staying at her aunt’s apartment when she was killed, sources said. Her mother had previously been reported to ACS, but the details of the complaint and whether its related to the incident were unclear. __________________ ***************************************** Anti-Semites have Small Penis Syndrome. The only known treatment is electroshock therapy combined with cerebellum removal. Fortunately, it’s a tiny procedure. *****************************************

09-10-2019, 08:48 AM	#3
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	The parents are dumb for not thinking ahead, but I don't think they could or should be charged with murder. Isn't it bad enough they have to live with their stupid decision for the rest of their lives? It's a parent's job to make sure their child gets out of it's most vulnerable period alive. If they fail in that regard due to making dumb, shortsighted choices then they probably shouldn't have ever had children in the first place. __________________

09-10-2019, 09:14 AM	#4
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,381	WTF is wrong with you to even consider making the 5 year old responsible for this? __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

09-10-2019, 12:33 PM	#7
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,228	jeezus pam __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

09-09-2019, 06:32 PM	#2
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	Probably the most ridiculous question I've witnessed... how the fuck you going to hold a 5 year old accountable for some shit she did in her sleep? Anyway, this is my neighborhood. I was conceived in those projects. True story.

09-10-2019, 10:48 AM	#5
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	I say charge the parents (actually probably just parent because we know the daddy isn't around). These losers don't give 2 fucks about their kids. They have them as a means of survival. They would be homeless and starving without their government checks.

09-10-2019, 11:07 AM	#6
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	^define "these people"

09-10-2019, 01:06 PM	#10
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	^what makes you automatically assume these parents fit your proposed stereotype? For instance, I was conceived right there where this happened and raised a flew blocks up in the fordham section of the same street (webster ave). Yet you the one begging me for gibs here: https://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and...king-mark.html What makes you assume they're not like I was before I made my escape out of that trap? Working my way out. Answer honestly...

09-10-2019, 02:26 PM	#19
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	I like how this guy has a magical solution for a problem he imagined from an assumption he's ashamed to admit. Trump supporters in a nutshell.

09-10-2019, 02:27 PM	#20
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	That must've been one large 5 year old to be big enough to smother someone accidentally

09-10-2019, 06:52 PM	#26
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	If you EVER posted your source it would make it a lot easier to decide if you are fucking nuts or not.

09-11-2019, 08:15 AM	#29
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 17,037	As a father of 5 kids I know simply by common sense that you do not allow that for this very reason among others. The parents should have known better that this is a dangerous situation at any time. __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

09-11-2019, 08:24 AM	#30
JesseQuinn feeding the wolves Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: between sand and stars in Jamaica Posts: 6,420	oh please, you're a bad caregiver if every kid can't have their own bed? yes that is ideal but welcome to life, sometimes you gotta make do know nothing about this other than the info posted in Pam's OP. according to that a child who had a mother who had an ACS complaint against her was staying with her aunt not sure if that is even relevant. I have the best mom in the world (yeah I'm calling it) and I slept over at my aunts homes all the time. with one aunt I shared a bed with my cousin, it was fun. the concord to fly to Paris was down so... no one did anything wrong here. a tragic accident RIP __________________ throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct