Why no webcam girls from Czech Republic?

[JSWENSON]

Never see them, cursory search on Chaturbate and found none there either.

[MaDalton]

maybe not anymore - but there used to be plenty

but we have zero unemployement and wages have been going up a lot, the "1000 Euro a month" flat payment many studios did is not attractive anymore.

and Czechs are not really outgoing per se - so you will find not many who take matters into their own hands and go to Chaturbate etc

And the porn girls were not really interested because they used to make a multiple per month compared to the cam girls.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

but we have zero unemployement and wages have been going up a lot, the "1000 Euro a month" flat payment many studios did is not attractive anymore.

That's good to hear, I've seen one too many "old guy travels to marry poor European girl" documentaries in my life.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

That's good to hear, I've seen one too many "old guy travels to marry poor European girl" documentaries in my life.

there is no difference between CZ cities like Prague and Brno and the big eastern German cities like Leipzig, Dresden, Magdeburg. Actually quality of life (definitely) and average income (probably) are higher in CZ.

Village life is still different though.

but the eastern euro bride thing doesn't work here anymore for 10+ years.

Belarus, Georgia, Ukraine - need to go there.

(notice how all these are not EU countries?)

[Roald]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

maybe not anymore - but there used to be plenty

We used to have a whole lot on our platform indeed. But like you say that must be at least 5+ years ago or so...

Mostly real Eastern Euro countries now

[celandina]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

That's good to hear, I've seen one too many "old guy travels to marry poor European girl" documentaries in my life.

Yes, in 1945

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Never see them, cursory search on Chaturbate and found none there either.

Because it takes time and effort to earn good money this way. You can't beat earning cash shooting porn.

And that's why I say tubes paying models won't harm the old school porn production, cause it takes some effort and creativity and models usually don't have any of that. They want quick cash without having to care about anything.

[ilnjscb]

This is a good story. Czech Rep. and Slovakia now have GDP/PCs of 39KUSD and 37K respectively.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Because it takes time and effort to earn good money this way. You can't beat earning cash shooting porn.

And that's why I say tubes paying models won't harm the old school porn production, cause it takes some effort and creativity and models usually don't have any of that. They want quick cash without having to care about anything.

I have no idea what rock you've been under but not only do thousands and thousands of girls work in this industry now they just bypass porn producers in the process. They also charge more for memberships in many cases and keep more of the pie. There are 20 something year old millionaires that post solo videos on tube sites and sell their snapchat access.

As for cams, someone that understands the niche would take all of those bored ass studio girls that make $22 a day while texting on their phone and ignoring chat and show them how to make actual money but webmaters in this industry quit innovating in the 00's. One of the top Chaturbate rooms yesterday was a girl from the third world that had learned how to work it which is not sitting in a prop filled studio reminiscent of Paul Markham 80's porn while desperately waiting for marks to come in the room. No training, no affiliate referrals, no Twitter, no Snapchat, no nothing. The pimps running these sweatshops are some of the dumbest people in the industry.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

This is a good story. Czech Rep. and Slovakia now have GDP/PCs of 39KUSD and 37K respectively.

but there is a huge gap between Prague and the country side

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...regions_by_GDP

Prague = $72k in 2016 (this year for sure more like $80k)

Karlovy Vary = $23k

some random village near the polish border probably $12k

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

I have no idea what rock you've been under but not only do thousands and thousands of girls work in this industry now they just bypass porn producers in the process. They also charge more for memberships in many cases and keep more of the pie. There are 20 something year old millionaires that post solo videos on tube sites and sell their snapchat access.

No shit.. really? Been running tube campaigns since 2013, this is shocking news to me...

Guess that's why most local pornstars still shoot with producers through agencies instead of earning million on tubes, correct? Girls get paid cash for shoots here and many of them had their own solo girl sites - those went to shit once they found it takes time and creativity. How many successful solo girl sites do you know that still update?

It was already discussed here like a month ago, won't discuss this again.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

No shit.. really? Been running tube campaigns since 2013, this is shocking news to me...

Guess that's why most local pornstars still shoot with producers through agencies instead of earning million on tubes, correct? Girls get paid cash for shoots here.

It was already discussed here like a month ago, won't discuss this again.

What a bunch of morons do is not pertinent. The girls that handle their own shit aren't in your circles, won't ever be in your circles and you couldn't afford them.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

What a bunch of morons do is not pertinent. The girls that handle their own shit aren't in your circles, won't ever be in your circles and you couldn't afford them.

Lol here we have a local expert on tubes and content production. See guys? Models earn millions on PornHub and there are still these dumb Czech/Hungarian pornstars that still shoot for 250€ per scene ROFL.. How many scenes have you shot in Europe?

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

What a bunch of morons do is not pertinent. The girls that handle their own shit aren't in your circles, won't ever be in your circles and you couldn't afford them.

it is very funny to read about these tech savvy strippers in your imagination...I have had 100s of cam models and what you speak of are basically unicorns...girls do not give a shit about webmastering or traffic or learning anything...MVI...minimum viable income...most of them make the money they need to survive and immediately log off and watch TV or go clubbing...1 in 1000 cam girls is a tech savvy, high work ethic, willing to strip for money and upload on the internet...

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000

it is very funny to read about these tech savvy strippers in your imagination...I have had 100s of cam models and what you speak of are basically unicorns...girls do not give a shit about webmastering or traffic or learning anything...MVI...minimum viable income...most of them make the money they need to survive and immediately log off and watch TV or go clubbing...1 in 1000 cam girls is a tech savvy, high work ethic, willing to strip for money and upload on the internet...

You forgot the most important thing most of them lack: CREATIVITY. Uploading average amateur videos won't do the trick. One of my models told me she tried Pornhub but it was shit, well she lacked exactly what it takes.

There is a reason why porn actors are usually shitty porn producers and vice versa.

But explain that to a smartass who has never worked with models.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Lol here we have a local expert on tubes and content production. See guys? Models earn millions on PornHub and there are still these dumb Czech/Hungarian pornstars that still shoot for 250€ per scene ROFL.. How many scenes have you shot in Europe?

You guys are really proving my point here.

Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000

it is very funny to read about these tech savvy strippers in your imagination...I have had 100s of cam models and what you speak of are basically unicorns...girls do not give a shit about webmastering or traffic or learning anything...MVI...minimum viable income...most of them make the money they need to survive and immediately log off and watch TV or go clubbing...1 in 1000 cam girls is a tech savvy, high work ethic, willing to strip for money and upload on the internet...

Cam girls are dumb as fuck, I've been working with them for 20 years. These girls are porn sellers that use cams to build their brand and still won't work with anyone.

Me saying that thousands of girls make piles in porn doesn't mean there aren't hundreds of thousands that suck.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

but the eastern euro bride thing doesn't work here anymore for 10+ years.

Make that 30 years ago.

The reason most Czech girls don't do porn is the exposure they get on Tubes and social media. It's not that they're not capable, it's not brain surgery to push traffic if you're a girl promoting her own site. It's the exposure and the fact their family and friends will find out.

The standard of living here is good and people who want to earn money move to the cities.

Those still in the villages are happy to earn little and surrounded by similar people. They don't need fast cars, big houses, shopping in malls, going to the cinema every other day. Something Americans and a lot of Europeans are obsessed by.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

No shit.. really? Been running tube campaigns since 2013, this is shocking news to me...

Guess that's why most local pornstars still shoot with producers through agencies instead of earning million on tubes, correct? Girls get paid cash for shoots here and many of them had their own solo girl sites - those went to shit once they found it takes time and creativity. How many successful solo girl sites do you know that still update?

It was already discussed here like a month ago, won't discuss this again.

According to some here they are making a fortune on their sites, from Pornhub, C4S and similar.

Maybe their definition of a fortune and mine are different.

[JSWENSON]

There's the add on idiocy.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

but there is a huge gap between Prague and the country side

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...regions_by_GDP

Prague = $72k in 2016 (this year for sure more like $80k)

Karlovy Vary = $23k

some random village near the polish border probably $12k

They're saying the GDPPC in the prague region is HIGHER than the US? Amazing! What would be the source of that wealth?

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

According to some here they are making a fortune on their sites, from Pornhub, C4S and similar.

Maybe their definition of a fortune and mine are different.

Those who haven't shot a single porn scene in their live are totally irrelevant to the discussion.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

You guys are really proving my point here.

Proving what? That you have never shot a single porn scene while being a smartass?

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Me saying that thousands of girls make piles in porn doesn't mean there aren't hundreds of thousands that suck.

Me saying that most porn models prefer quick cash and don't bother with creating and maintaining their own channels on tubes or cam sites does not mean there aren't girls that are able to do that and earn good money. See the logic Einstein?

There were thousands of solo girl sites, yet only a handful of them were successful and updated - because most of the girls realized it needs work, dedication and creativity.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Proving what? That you have never shot a single porn scene while trying to be a smartass?

You brought shooting porn into an unrelated discussion. The words were used, but to say that a photographer / site owner there could have better utilized the local talent.

There were thousands of solo girl sites, yet only a handful of them were successful and updated - because most of the girls realized it needs work, dedication and creativity.

My stupid ass was making more money promoting clothed cam girls than many of those solo girl sites. Paysites were old news aside from a few hits for a very long ass time before people on GFY accepted it.

And again, one has nothing to do with the other. My point is that a forward thinking person could have utilized the cheaper labor to turn dozens / hundreds of women from that area into webcam rockstars in terms of earnings instead of the disinterested cause they get a flat rate shit that is prevalent. SOMEONE is running those studios to make money on these girls already, they suck at their fucking job. Why you took this as an insult against photographers is beyond me but I've been up too long to untangle your logic so

Cheers.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

You brought shooting porn into an unrelated discussion. The words were used, but to say that a photographer / site owner there could have better utilized the local talent.

It's not unrelated. The girls still work in porn industry, no matter if cams or porn shoots. You wanted to know why there aren't many cam girls from Czech Republic - which is the porn country #1 in Europe and which is the reason you asked this question. After having a reply from me you started educating me about PornHub millionaires. So who brought shooting porn into the debate???

Cams are still the porn industry, but the difference between shooting porn and cams is that you need to put some effort to be successful with cams and most of these girls just don't have the nerve, patience and dedication for this - me and pimpmaster9000 already answered this.

You believe they could teach them how to do that properly? LOL.. nobody has seriously thought about this before you think? Re-read what Pimpmaster wrote to get the idea why they don't give a fuck. They are in porn. It is easier to just shoot 2 scenes in a day and get paid 500-800€ right after the shoot. Same day pay. No need to wait for the pay day, no need to have any talent or creativity, no need to be efficient in English, many don't even care about taxing that. Just one shooting day and you have 500€ -800€ or more in your hands that you can spend immediately - this sum is often a monthly salary of the local girls having normal jobs, and they still need to wait for the pay day.

You won't beat that with cams, pornhub or anything. Cash is cash. Do you know a single prostitute who accepts wire transfer after a month of her services?? Lol..

And btw #1: prostitution is not illegal in Czech Republic, there are thousands of prostitutes
And btw #2: Cams are old news too.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

So who brought shooting porn into the debate???

Uh, you did. In your very first comment.

"And that's why I say tubes paying models won't harm the old school porn production, cause it takes some effort and creativity and models usually don't have any of that. They want quick cash without having to care about anything."

I didn't say shit about one beating the other and would normally argue a few points on that but I think you are drunk.

You believe they could teach them how to do that properly? LOL.. nobody has seriously thought about this before you think?

I can, do and have since 2001. You aren't on another chapter, you are in another book and all to boast about shooting porn which I give zero fucks about.

Re-read what Pimpmaster wrote to get the idea why they don't give a fuck. They are in porn. It is easier to just shoot 2 scenes in a day and get paid 500-800€ right after the shoot.

You keep blabbing about why someone would choose porn over cams. IDGAF my man. The only reason I brought up how cams beat shooting porn was your smug dismissal of a massive chunk of this industry that outperform paysites in every way. I asked why there were no girls from Ukraine specifically, it was answered. You even added to that answer before you went off an a flex tangent. While there are no Ukraine girls on Chaturbate there are fucking hundreds from the surrounding areas and other similar countries.

And back to your teaching them shit, it's not teaching them to move from porn to cams when they are already on cam in a fucking studio that someone is running lil goof. Those girls and studios are run like absolute shit and I pondered why nobody bought a clue now that this industry is 2 decades strong. FFS.

You won't beat that with cams, pornhub or anything. Cash is cash. Do you know a single prostitute who accepts wire transfer after a month of her services?? Lol..

More irrelevant shit about moving lazy porn girls to cams.

And btw #1: prostitution is not illegal in Czech Republic, there are thousands of prostitutes

Great. Irrelevant.

And btw #2: Cams are old news too.

You damn sure need to stick to shooting porn for as long as possible.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Uh, you did. In your very first comment.

"And that's why I say tubes paying models won't harm the old school porn production, cause it takes some effort and creativity and models usually don't have any of that. They want quick cash without having to care about anything."

It was a side reference to the important fact that girls need to put some effort to be successful if they wanna be independent in this biz - either cam models or shooting their own stuff - and that was a reply to your question. Even MaDalton replied this in the same manner. Pimpmaster's reply was about cam girls. So what's hard to understand??? You either are an imbecile or you pretend to be one. Or just an ignorant asshole. Fuck off.

You asked a question why there are no girls in cams from Czech Rep. You had the answer, you don't have a fuckin clue about local customs, people and climate, so you better shut the fuck up or simply fuck off one more time. You don't know shit.

Stick to your 30-year-old documentaries about poor European girls. Ignorant pricks like you still believe that. Cheap labor... yeah

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

I think you are drunk.

Tell this to your mom.

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

I can, do and have since 2001.

Then go and teach them.. open a fucking map, come to the Czech Republic, talk to models, teach them, and don't ask stupid unnecessary questions here LOL.. You clearly know the answers Mr. Know it all.

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

boast about shooting porn which I give zero fucks about.

Cool ... I give zero fucks about cam studios.. and based on your original question it seems that Czech girls too

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

cams beat shooting porn

In your imagination. Especially since it is ''completely unrelated'' ...

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

I asked why there were no girls from Ukraine

No, you asked why there are no girls from Czech Republic, dumb fuck, quit the drugs

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

And back to your teaching them shit, it's not teaching them to move from porn to cams

I never said anything about teaching them to move from porn to cams, you imbecile. You first asked a question why there are no Czech girls in cams then mentioned something about cam girls/studios doing it wrong. And you still don't understand it takes talent and effort to be a successful cam girl / or any independed performer in this biz I won't explain that to you again.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Those who haven't shot a single porn scene in their live are totally irrelevant to the discussion.

Webmasters working from home claiming they know everything are totally irrelevant to the discussion.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Proving what? That you have never shot a single porn scene while being a smartass?

Me saying that most porn models prefer quick cash and don't bother with creating and maintaining their own channels on tubes or cam sites does not mean there aren't girls that are able to do that and earn good money. See the logic Einstein?

There were thousands of solo girl sites, yet only a handful of them were successful and updated - because most of the girls realized it needs work, dedication and creativity.

Has he ever met a Czech person? People who think the Czech culture is the same as American or N. Europe expose their ignorance.

[NatalieMojoHost]

Cam models are rarely open about where they are located. Are you just searching the sites to find them? Because afaik they do their best to conceal where they are, and this wouldn't be public information.

[JSWENSON]

SpicyM, you are on dumb motherfucker.

It warms my heart that your stupid ass comments will be memorialized here forever, right alongside those from Paul.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Has he ever met a Czech person? People who think the Czech culture is the same as American or N. Europe expose their ignorance.

Pay attention to this comment people, it's the same way dumb ass conservatives spread their stupidity far and wide.

SpicyM put words in my mouth based on what his dumb brain came up with. Paul, instead of reading for himself, agreed with the dismissal of the words I never said. Now they are on here arguing with ghosts about some tangentially related bullshit that nobody argued with in the first place.

I wonder why this industry consolidated to a few key players and thousands of girls that decided to bypass these morons for their own sanity.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by NatalieMojoHost

Cam models are rarely open about where they are located. Are you just searching the sites to find them? Because afaik they do their best to conceal where they are, and this wouldn't be public information.

Oh I know but Chaturbate has a ton of rooms with the locations that are mostly accurate. There were zero from Ukraine so I asked why, was wondering if it was illegal for them to do their own thing or something.

Just ignore the 27 side streets the morons have turned down by putting words in my mouth. My question was answered and I acknowledged that way up at the top. lol

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Pay attention to this comment people, it's the same way dumb ass conservatives spread their stupidity far and wide.

SpicyM put words in my mouth based on what his dumb brain came up with. Paul, instead of reading for himself, agreed with the dismissal of the words I never said. Now they are on here arguing with ghosts about some tangentially related bullshit that nobody argued with in the first place.

I wonder why this industry consolidated to a few key players and thousands of girls that decided to bypass these morons for their own sanity.

So far you haven't given any reasons for the lack of Czech girls doing webcam. So tell us why you think there you can't find them. Or are you just an idiot troll?

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So far you haven't given any reasons for the lack of Czech girls doing webcam. So tell us why you think there you can't find them. Or are you just an idiot troll?

So far you've misunderstood this entire thread as if you are drunk even after I've repeatedly told two of you that you are putting words in my mouth.

Good job.

[The Porn Nerd]

I prefer Hungarian girls.

More fun, less dour.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Has he ever met a Czech person? People who think the Czech culture is the same as American or N. Europe expose their ignorance.

No, he is a dumb fuck who mixes Ukraine with Czech Republic, see above. How could he understand the simple logic that a Czech girl will prefer quick money doing porn shoots instead of spending hours on live cams and wait for the pay day.

These ignorant asswipes think they know it all, I doubt he has ever been to Europe.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So far you haven't given any reasons for the lack of Czech girls doing webcam. So tell us why you think there you can't find them. Or are you just an idiot troll?

Probably just a troll. Doubt someone could be that retarded to ask a question then insult locals from the biz who gave him answers.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

SpicyM, you are on dumb motherfucker.

It warms my heart that your stupid ass comments will be memorialized here forever, right alongside those from Paul.

Says a dumbfuck who can't tell Ukraine from Czech Republic. Yeah, hope it trully gets memorialized..


Didn't your mommy put you in basic school? Dumbfuck..

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Says a dumbfuck who can't tell Ukraine from Czech Republic. Yeah, hope it trully gets memorialized..

Didn't your mommy put you in basic school? Dumbfuck..

You arguing like an idiot because I mixed up two countries I had on my mind doesn't make you not an idiot.

Every single response you have left except for this stupid Ukraine / Czech shit shows that you and Paul have no clue what I said originally even though I acknowledged the explanation in a reply shortly after this thread was started.

Instead you are doing what smug photos do and are preaching about amazing and awesome you are at shooting porn which in at least one case is untrue but is overall irrelevant.

You should get drunk, go to sleep and try again tomorrow.

[Paul Markham]

JSWENSON why do you think you can't find Czech girls doing cams?

Give us the benefit of your wide knowledge on this subject.

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

JSWENSON why do you think you can't find Czech girls doing cams?

Give us the benefit of your wide knowledge on this subject.

I have explained this multiple times here. I asked why there were no Czech girls on cam because when you look at webcams by location you see nearly all locations represented but no Czech. Since porn is legal there I was wondering if there was some specific law against running a cam studio or bypassing a registered company to work from home.

All of the side discussions don't change that.

Hit advanced search, click the continent and click show locations for a reference.

https://chaturbate.com/

[MFCT]

My site has detected 63 unique camgirls from Czech in the past week (Chaturbate). 4 of whom are online now. This isn't including the couples.

My site is pretty much the only one that can easily categorize such details. Unless there's other sites that leech from mine, because the site owners can't code.

https://www.mfcteens.com/Czech-camgirls/

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by MFCT

My site has detected 63 unique camgirls from Czech in the past week (Chaturbate). 4 of whom are online now. This isn't including the couples.

My site is pretty much the only one that can easily categorize such details. Unless there's other sites that leech from mine, because the site owners can't code.

https://www.mfcteens.com/Czech-camgirls/

Who codes your stuff?

[MFCT]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Who codes your stuff?

I code my stuff.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

I have explained this multiple times here. I asked why there were no Czech girls on cam because when you look at webcams by location you see nearly all locations represented but no Czech. Since porn is legal there I was wondering if there was some specific law against running a cam studio or bypassing a registered company to work from home.

All of the side discussions don't change that.

Hit advanced search, click the continent and click show locations for a reference.

https://chaturbate.com/

So why haven't you explained why there are no Czech girls in a thread where you asked that question?

If you know, why ask?

[Acepimp]

Jswenson you're asking a really good question. The cam studio people don't know what the hell they're doing. Why don't they use any affiliate links or do any promo on Twitter? At least make one Twitter for the studio if the girls don't each want their own twitter handle. Use affiliate links to get the revshare. They don't do any of this. How the hell are these studio guys that dumb?

[JSWENSON]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So why haven't you explained why there are no Czech girls in a thread where you asked that question?

If you know, why ask?

Paul Markham everyone.

[emmasexytime]

sitting around on cam waiting for spenders gets boring

many girls I know are now on OF and work their own hours and times

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Paul Markham everyone.

So you don't have a clue and just trolling.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by emmasexytime

sitting around on cam waiting for spenders gets boring

many girls I know are now on OF and work their own hours and times

I don't know what it's like today except what UK models tell me. They all work for themselves, find promoting themselves easy, great returns and not bound in to working in a studio.

Studio girls in Czech were always bitching about the money they earned. 15 years ago 1,000 to 1,500 crown a day was bad money, today it has to be 3 or 4 times that. To tempt a girl.