Pornstars Escorting

[slapass]

I have not looked before very much so not sure but it seems like a ton of big names are doing it pretty openly. I always thought it was more of a hush hush thing.

[just a punk]

Really??? You just found out that 2+2=4

[slapass]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Really??? You just found out that 2+2=4

I knew they did it but they are all over the sites. It is pretty blatant.

[NatalieK]

the money is better in escorting and tbh, easier too...

the men appreciate you more, rather than thinking you´re a pornstar and can take a dick in the ass or gagging the fuck out of you in a gangbang porn vid...

Some guys, (when i do escort, not on a regular basis) however, when i do, we sit and chat for maybe half hour and enjoy a bit of kissing, some play time and a fuck before they leave and it´s all relaxed.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by slapass

I knew they did it but they are all over the sites. It is pretty blatant.

You guys always use the misleading word "escorting". What do you mean by it? An escorting like showing with someone in public places like police escorts VIP persons on the road, or you mean doing sex for money? Sex for money is called prostitution. Since all porn models do sex with various men for money, it's prostitution too. Doesn't matter if it's on camera or not. And sex for money is prostitution. The Oxford dictionary says this:

the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment.

Isn't that all the pornstars do?

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

You guys always use the misleading word "escorting". What do you mean by it? An escorting like showing with someone in public places like police escorts VIP persons on the road, or you mean doing sex for money? Sex for money is called prostitution. Since all porn models do sex with various men for money, it's prostitution too. Doesn't matter if it's on camera or not. And sex for money is prostitution. The Oxford dictionary says this:



Isn't that all the pornstars do?

euphemism

noun

a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

[NatalieK]

a sales man, a home worker, someone selling content provided by a prostitute.


See the difference between a prostitute & an escort is, the time is paid for not the sex.

I spend half hour or hour with someone, and charge a fee. Sometimes no sex, maybe a blowjob or kissing, and sometimes, just chatting. yes, just chatting.

A prostitute charges an amount for a blowjob, a fuck, full sex or hand relief... not time, but the sex.

So CyberSEO, no, you´re incorrect, an escort is not a prostitute...

as an escort is someone whom maybe paid for a dinner date, a friend or maybe sex, what ever that person paying wants, receives.

Their time is paid for and not the sex <<<< this

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

a sales man, a home worker, someone selling content provided by a prostitute.


See the difference between a prostitute & an escort is, the time is paid for not the sex.

I spend half hour or hour with someone, and charge a fee. Sometimes no sex, maybe a blowjob or kissing, and sometimes, just chatting. yes, just chatting.

A prostitute charges an amount for a blowjob, a fuck, full sex or hand relief... not time, but the sex.

So CyberSEO, no, you´re incorrect, an escort is not a prostitute...

as an escort is someone whom maybe paid for a dinner date, a friend or maybe sex, what ever that person paying wants, receives.

Their time is paid for and not the sex <<<< this

Semantics

[slapass]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

You guys always use the misleading word "escorting". What do you mean by it? An escorting like showing with someone in public places like police escorts VIP persons on the road, or you mean doing sex for money? Sex for money is called prostitution. Since all porn models do sex with various men for money, it's prostitution too. Doesn't matter if it's on camera or not. And sex for money is prostitution. The Oxford dictionary says this:



Isn't that all the pornstars do?

There have been a lot of discussions on this. I can tell you that lots of people who do porn see a distinction.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by slapass

There have been a lot of discussions on this. I can tell you that lots of people who do porn see a distinction.

That's their problem. The prostitutes in my country also don't want to be called like that. They are always use other words like "individuals" etc. Does it change the fact that they do sex for money and they are prostitutes?

The people here usually call them "whores", which is incorrect of course.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by escorpio

euphemism

noun

a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

Yes. Imagine my disappointment when I realised that 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' WASN'T a euphemism... I cried for days...

[ZackBasil]

Escort is more than just a prostitution imho. You pay for a time of smart and beautiful lady. She shall provide you much more service than just a usual sex-worker: intelligent conversations over a dinner, make a good companion during meeting with your business partners and so on.

Well and adult content performers are way far away from prostitution at all.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by ZackBasil

Well and adult content performers are way far away from prostitution at all.

So they don't do sex for money, right?

A prostitution: a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money.
Non-prostitution (something different): a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money while he films it.

Ok, you have a strong logic

[ZackBasil]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

So they don't do sex for money, right?

A prostitution: a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money.
Non-prostitution (something different): a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money while he films it.

Ok, you have a strong logic

You film your sex with ur GF. Than sell this content on a website or upload on a tube to get ur rev.share. Who are gonna be a pimp or a whore in this case?

Is it tough to be a moralist on an adult industry forum, bro?))

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

See the difference between a prostitute & an escort is, the time is paid for not the sex.

I spend half hour or hour with someone, and charge a fee. Sometimes no sex, maybe a blowjob or kissing, and sometimes, just chatting. yes, just chatting.

A prostitute charges an amount for a blowjob, a fuck, full sex or hand relief... not time, but the sex.

What you explained is just two different payment models for the same thing. Analogically, when coding I can give someone a flat rate for the project ("the sex") or charge them hourly ("the time"), but i'm still a programmer. An escort is still a prostitute. A pornstar is still a prostitute (in most cases). There is however, a difference between an escort and a street hooker.

I am of course not imposing morals on anyone here, It would be ridiculous for someone working in the porn industry to look down on someone for having sex for money - but if someone is paying someone else with the expectation of sex in return it is in fact by definition prostitution.

[CaptainHowdy]

I can have them all for free in tube sites . . .







Incipit Paul Markham . . .

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by ZackBasil

You film your sex with ur GF.

It is not a prostitution. Can you read English, ah? A dictionary maybe? Every sex which is being paid for is a prostitution. Do you pay to your GF for sex when she does it on video? No? So it's not a prostitution, because she does not sell sex to you for money. That's... just a sex.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

So they don't do sex for money, right?

A prostitution: a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money.
Non-prostitution (something different): a pimp tells his girl to have sex with some male for money while he films it.

Ok, you have a strong logic

I guess you found Jesus

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by celandina

I guess you found Jesus

In a trashcan maybe.

I'm not talking about morality (many prostitutes are very good people IRL). I'm talking about terminology. If you didn't notice... two programmers in this thread say the same thing. That's not because we say that prostitution is bad or so. We just don't understand why some people say that 2+2 is 5. We simply don't understand this logic. If someone does sex for money he/she is a prostitute according to the definition. Give us another definition and we will use instead.

[Vendzilla]

Just without the film crew!!

[ZackBasil]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Every sex which is being paid for is a prostitution.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=prostitution

The one and only legit dictionary nowadays supports your point of view almost

The act of paying money for the sexual favors of a member of the opposite sex or the same sex.
It is illegal in most of the USA unless you film it or photogragh it, then it's art, it's legal, and it's an $8 billion dollar a year industry.

The actors of the Love movie directed by Gaspar Noe performed sexual intercourse. That movie is not a porn. It's just a 18+ movie.

They got paid by contracts for the whole movie, not for separated scenes.

Are they prostitutes?

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by ZackBasil

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=prostitution

The one and only legit dictionary nowadays supports your point of view almost




The actors of the Love movie directed by Gaspar Noe performed sexual intercourse. That movie is not a porn. It's just a 18+ movie.

They got paid by contracts for the whole movie, not for separated scenes.

Are they prostitutes?

[Paul Markham]

Prostitution is the oldest profession. The second oldest are the people earning money off prostitutes. That would be us.

[Zuzana Designs]

I heard a comedian say that sluts are just prostitute with bad economics!

[fuzebox]

Pornstars only shoot porn to market themselves for escorting

[CourtneyR]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Yes. Imagine my disappointment when I realised that 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' WASN'T a euphemism... I cried for days...

I laughed way too hard at this.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by ZackBasil

They got paid by contracts for the whole movie, not for separated scenes.

Are they prostitutes?

They are being paid to allow the sex to be filmed, not being paid to have sex.
Actually, I think this is a better definition:

Prostitution is payment for sex which most likely would not have occurred had it not been for the payment involved.

Ergo, a couple filming themselves and selling the video is not prostitution because they likely would have had sex anyways.

[george MH]

with normal porn: sex for sell
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[pimpmaster9000]

No its not hookin' at all, She talks to the guy first and they kiss LOL...oh well that completely changes the monetary aspect of the encounter of her butthole with his penis...sounds like good old hookin' to me...

[slapass]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Pornstars only shoot porn to market themselves for escorting

It looks like that.

[nikki99]

when I was young I suyffered a lot of sexual harrasment (stalking) because they concluded I was a prostitute because I was a pornstar (not even a pornstar yet)

and I wasn´t ....

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by pimpmaster9000

No its not hookin' at all, She talks to the guy first and they kiss LOL...oh well that completely changes the monetary aspect of the encounter of her butthole with his penis...sounds like good old hookin' to me...

For some having a girlfriend might relate a lot to dealing with a prostitute . . .

[mce]

Is there like a list somewhere? I'm sure that would get lots of Google searches

[slapass]

Originally Posted by mce

Is there like a list somewhere? I'm sure that would get lots of Google searches

Escorts + big city it is all there.

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

https://youtu.be/OkvjhWirED8?t=77

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by mce

Is there like a list somewhere?

T**Lux***Comp*****.com

[MatureKing]

CurrentlySobber have poo color!!!!!!!!

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

What you explained is just two different payment models for the same thing. Analogically, when coding I can give someone a flat rate for the project ("the sex") or charge them hourly ("the time"), but i'm still a programmer. An escort is still a prostitute. A pornstar is still a prostitute (in most cases). There is however, a difference between an escort and a street hooker.

I am of course not imposing morals on anyone here, It would be ridiculous for someone working in the porn industry to look down on someone for having sex for money - but if someone is paying someone else with the expectation of sex in return it is in fact by definition prostitution.

understanding what you mean, but still completely different...

a prostitute is paid to have sex, sex only. You go to a prostitute and pay 20 for a blow job or 50 for a fuck. An escort, you pay for the time, 100 for half hour and maybe sit and chat, another person may want sex, but then it´s escorting, escorting that persons wishes.

Also, pornstars have to be actors or actresses, at no point, unless it´s a gangbang or a dogginer session video scene. However, many of my vids have a story to them, therefore, I have to act, this would not be done with prostitution.

You do not get asked for a drink or dinner as a prostitute, however, as an escort, I do

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

a prostitute is paid to have sex, sex only.

Not at all. Many people here hire prostitutes just to talk with them. I know a guy who came to a brothel with a bad trip after weed and the prostitutes were bringing him various meds to stop his panic attack (he doesn't even wanted to have any sex there). So your definition doesn't work. If someone had sex for money even once, he/she is a prostitute.

[King Mark]

^russia got people overdosing on weed and paying prostitutes to talk?

[Dead]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It is not a prostitution. Can you read English, ah? A dictionary maybe? Every sex which is being paid for is a prostitution. Do you pay to your GF for sex when she does it on video? No? So it's not a prostitution, because she does not sell sex to you for money. That's... just a sex.

That pussy was paid for...one way or another

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Not at all. Many people here hire prostitutes just to talk with them. I know a guy who came to a brothel with a bad trip after weed and the prostitutes were bringing him various meds to stop his panic attack (he doesn't even wanted to have any sex there). So your definition doesn't work. If someone had sex for money even once, he/she is a prostitute.

ahh maybe different here in Spain...

A prostitute is a street walker. Standing on the corner of the road wearing bikinis and the cars pull over, the girl gets in, they drive to a near by location and gives blowjobs or sex, i´ve never done this but it´s obvious how it works.

A stripper or dancer is paid for the dance, here in Spain, can be paid extra for sex, personally, still not a prostitute, again i have no done this.

A pornstar, paid for filming of a sexual act with acting, a script, production of a movie.

An escort, contacted by private email or number, to set a time to meet at a place to give a service, whether chatting, giving a blowjob, or maybe dancing, serving drinks provocatively.



One of my favourite jobs escorting was for a disabled guy, he couldn´t do much for himself, so the carers cleaned him and tidied the home before I arrived and both Gary & I spent the night there, Gary, chatting to him as a best friend, giving him a lift in life and later that evening I give him sex. We changed his life and he felt good for one night of his life...



I have no problem either way, being called what ever, either way, my career´s better than most others, the people i´ve met, the great times i´ve had and i´m certainly not a barrister getting the bad guys off or a dodgy accountant, a corrupt copper, a person selling goods but dissing the goods supplier and product.

Anyone here on GFY dissing any pornstar or adult worker, no matter the name or job they do in it, well, it´s more insulting than a vegan working at burger king moaning about meat

[NatalieK]

actually, i´ve just thought of a definite answer to the question, are escorts prostitutes, no.

Check any film or job, a job title can be very similar sometimes, but the crew have different jobs, slightly as maybe, but like i have shown above, there is a difference. The way people are contacted, the appointments, the time or rate and fee for job, all vary.

A job title is a job title and if you´re happy to change this for others, then this shows how little you know what your job title is and how you should do your job correctly

[Tjeezers]

they can hide it under the idea of "Fuck a Fan"

[TheLegacy]

Always heard and believe - you pay a hooker to leave.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

Always heard and believe - you pay a hooker to leave.

this is correct

[slapass]

Originally Posted by NatalieK

understanding what you mean, but still completely different...

a prostitute is paid to have sex, sex only. You go to a prostitute and pay 20 for a blow job or 50 for a fuck. An escort, you pay for the time, 100 for half hour and maybe sit and chat, another person may want sex, but then it´s escorting, escorting that persons wishes.

Also, pornstars have to be actors or actresses, at no point, unless it´s a gangbang or a dogginer session video scene. However, many of my vids have a story to them, therefore, I have to act, this would not be done with prostitution.

You do not get asked for a drink or dinner as a prostitute, however, as an escort, I do

Intimacy just makes it better for some folks but the number paying for conversation versus intimacy with their sex is small. Sorry, i think you are splitting hairs.

[slapass]

I know a ton of escorts who would never do porn. So they see a difference. Public versus private.

[Paul Markham]

Why are you guys so interested in what prostitution is?

If you have sex or provide sexual services for payment, you're a prostitute. Whether you're walking the streets offering $$40 blowjobs or going for dinner and fucking the person at the end for money. Does that include posing nude alone of with someone else? I think it does. I don't think any of that is wrong.

It beats working 9-5 in a dead-end job for low wages, being unemployed, being a student and living off tinned beans. Better than meeting someone on a one night stand and fucking them, sometimes in the street or back of a car. I've done both back in the day.

The one thing the moralists don't offer is a good job with decent wages. Maybe if they did that fewer people would be tempted into the sex trade.

Sites like Adultwork.com have 16,000 advertised. That, if I did my sums right, is 4% of all the population. 1-25 not counting streetwalkers and upper-end girls, just look at their prices starting at $160 for an hour for girls short drive from the centre of London. Girls in Czech are priced about the same.

[artwilliams]

It's really about escorts doing porn now.