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notinmybackyard · 02-10-2020, 10:23 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hatav_Rdnno

SBJ · 02-10-2020, 11:56 AM

They won't go away till boomers and my "Gen X" are dead cause Gas cars are just all we have ever known and want to drive.

That was a pretty good video though.

Rochard · 02-10-2020, 01:12 PM

Now I am thirsty.

notinmybackyard · 02-10-2020, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

They won't go away till boomers and my "Gen X" are dead cause Gas cars are just all we have ever known and want to drive.

That was a pretty good video though.

I'll disagree.

There are some pretty fundamental problems with E.V.s.

1. Electricity is like a caged animal... It escapes and it dies - Leave a battery on a shelf for a year and you've pretty much got a dead battery

2. Electricity is not portable like hydrocarbons.

On that note I'll add to what I don't like:

1. An electric car is an ELECTRONIC car. - It spies on the driver and its occupants

2. Charging them is a pain !

SBJ · 02-10-2020, 02:48 PM

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I'll disagree.

There are some pretty fundamental problems with E.V.s.

1. Electricity is like a caged animal... It escapes and it dies - Leave a battery on a shelf for a year and you've pretty much got a dead battery

2. Electricity is not portable like hydrocarbons.

On that note I'll add to what I don't like:

1. An electric car is an ELECTRONIC car. - It spies on the driver and its occupants

2. Charging them is a pain !

Again I don't want to drive a non-engine car and my generation doesn't either but as he said in this video batteries will continue to get smaller and pack more power. Also, the price of building a EV car will be less in the coming decades.

charging is a pain? I plug my cell in every night and the younger people live with their phones always plugged in. In the coming decades, you will find charging stations so that people that don't have a garage can still charge their cars with fast chargers.

I just don't see the gas engine going away in the next 40-50 yrs,

pimpmaster9000 · 02-10-2020, 04:33 PM

OPs video is bullshit...the cans to a gallon is not true considering teslas range and car size...video busted

SBJ · 02-10-2020, 04:37 PM

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OPs video is bullshit...the cans to a gallon is not true considering teslas range and car size...video busted

but what about the fact he says only 2% of people want an EV car. Can't sell all EV cars if 98% of the people still want gas engines.

Tdash · 02-10-2020, 04:37 PM

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I'll disagree.

There are some pretty fundamental problems with E.V.s.

1. Electricity is like a caged animal... It escapes and it dies - Leave a battery on a shelf for a year and you've pretty much got a dead battery

2. Electricity is not portable like hydrocarbons.

On that note I'll add to what I don't like:

1. An electric car is an ELECTRONIC car. - It spies on the driver and its occupants

2. Charging them is a pain !

LOL, you obviuosly don't know what you're talking about.

Tdash · 02-10-2020, 04:52 PM

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but what about the fact he says only 2% of people want an EV car. Can't sell all EV cars if 98% of the people still want gas engines.

BS statistics, probably from the oil companies.
Tesla is struggling to meet demand for it's orders. There's a long wait list and people are willingly waiting months to a year or more to receive their ordered cars.

Other auto industries are scrambling to catch up to Tesla. The main obstacle is the battery, how to build & mass produce an efficient battery which can last several days without recharging and be recharged in under a minute. This will be achieved within the next decade(at most).

Tesla already has the upper hand with it's Giga-factory, followed by Samsung's R&D battery department.

My point is anyone who thinks E.V's will not replace gas powered vehicles is an idiot.
Gas powered cars will be obsolete in 20 years.

MaDalton · 02-10-2020, 04:52 PM

I really love the sound of classic sports cars, been driving a Porsche for 10+ years myself, but times will change and nothing will stop that.

Let's look back how long it took from the first "car" in 1885 to something really usable without having to be a mechanic - I'd say at least 40-50 years.

And today people flood the internet because the electric or hydrogen car isn't perfect after 5-10 years.

We'll get there - also because the people who resist today will die out anyways

SBJ · 02-10-2020, 05:17 PM

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BS statistics, probably from the oil companies.
Tesla is struggling to meet demand for it's orders. There's a long wait list and people are willingly waiting months to a year or more to receive their ordered cars.

Other auto industries are scrambling to catch up to Tesla. The main obstacle is the battery, how to build & mass produce an efficient battery which can last several days without recharging and be recharged in under a minute. This will be achieved within the next decade(at most).

Tesla already has the upper hand with it's Giga-factory, followed by Samsung's R&D battery department.

My point is anyone who thinks E.V's will not replace gas powered vehicles is an idiot.
Gas powered cars will be obsolete in 20 years.

Another article from 2018
https://www.consumerreports.org/hybr...a-survey-says/

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About 20 percent of Americans say they're likely to buy an electric car in the future, a new AAA survey shows, more than in any previous survey and up from 15 percent in 2017.

Greg Brannon, director of automotive engineering and industry relations for the American Automobile Association (AAA), attributes some of that increase to the sheer number of new EVs on the market.

So still 80% are saying they don't want an electric car. Like I said till my generation is dead in 40-50 years you won't have the demand to stop building gas engines.

If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd have 10 cars custom-built and every one of them would have LS v8s or a hellcat motor. I'd have a golf cart with a 1100CC motor. You couldn't pay me to drive an EV.

notinmybackyard · 02-10-2020, 06:45 PM

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charging is a pain? I plug my cell in every night and the younger people live with their phones always plugged in.,

Every 4 months I make a 3,000 mile drive (6,000 return). It's just not going to be practical for me any time soon.

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LOL, you obviuosly don't know what you're talking about.

LOL I totally know what I'm fucking talking about

Grapesoda · 02-10-2020, 08:08 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hatav_Rdnno

I've seen that a few times on youtube.... pretty sure my next gas auto will be my last

Grapesoda · 02-10-2020, 08:11 PM

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I really love the sound of classic sports cars, been driving a Porsche for 10+ years myself, but times will change and nothing will stop that.

Let's look back how long it took from the first "car" in 1885 to something really usable without having to be a mechanic - I'd say at least 40-50 years.

And today people flood the internet because the electric or hydrogen car isn't perfect after 5-10 years.

We'll get there - also because the people who resist today will die out anyways

funny thing about hydrogen cars. I had always assumed you would put water in the tank, separate the water, expel the o2 and burn the h.

2MuchMark · 02-10-2020, 11:26 PM

He left out a few things:

- Gasoline has more energy density than batteries, but most of that energy is lost to heat. Getting propulsion from batteries is many more times effecient than getting it from gasoline.

- While the batteries take up more space than a gas tank, the weight is more evenly distributed, and is lower to the ground. Most ICE cars have their heavy engines in the front making them inherently less stable thanks to the weight distribution. Electric cars also have much smaller and lighter engines than their gasoline powered counter parts,increasing effeciency yet again.

- The cost of gasoline vs electricity is not mentioned. Neither is smog from exhaust, noise, etc.

- Etc...

2MuchMark · 02-10-2020, 11:33 PM

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1. Electricity is like a caged animal... It escapes and it dies - Leave a battery on a shelf for a year and you've pretty much got a dead battery

Some components of Gasoline will evaporate in 1 year too. What is left over won't combust properly, if at all. https://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/31/does-gas-go-bad/

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2. Electricity is not portable like hydrocarbons.

No, but its delivery through existing infrastructure far outweighs that of gasoline.

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1. An electric car is an ELECTRONIC car. - It spies on the driver and its occupants

Actually no, it spies on itself. All of its data is reported back to the manufacturer. But this isn't just of electric cars, it's all modern cars. And it's also your smartphone and other smart devices. Even your smart TV starts talking to its manufacturer as soon as you give it an Internet connection. I know it sucks, but this is the modern world now. To not buy an EV just because it talks to its daddy isn't a good enough reason.

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2. Charging them is a pain !

Charging them is easier than gassing-up, and alot cheaper too. I plug-in when I go downtown, go shopping, or go to the movies. I plug-in at night. Simple, cheap, clean.

SBJ · 02-10-2020, 11:42 PM

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- The cost of gasoline vs electricity is not mentioned. Neither is smog from exhaust, noise, etc.

- Etc...

Gas in my area is at a all-time low at around $2.16 a gallon. Also, he talked about making gas cars run better. I drove (not mine) a Ford SUV a few years ago with an Echo Boost 4 cylinder and that thing had some pickup like a 6 or 8.

But the bottom line is most people will just not give up their gas cars esp when gas is so cheap

2MuchMark · 02-10-2020, 11:45 PM

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Every 4 months I make a 3,000 mile drive (6,000 return). It's just not going to be practical for me any time soon.

That is 18,000 miles a year, or 28968 kilometers. Lets round-up to 30,000.

Assuming you have a pretty fuel-efficient car that uses about 9 kitres of gas per every 100 kilometers you drive, you spent $3159.00 buying gasoline in Montreal at the average price of $1.17 per litre.

Had you done this in a 15Kw EV car instead, your total cost would have been $485.55 for the year. Or if you prefer a Dual-Engine Supercar like Tesla at 30kWh consumption in "Ludicrous" mode, it would have only cost you $971.10.

You would save as much as $2673, Per Year. And just for fun, you would get better parking spots and free tolls too.

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LOL I totally know what I'm fucking talking about

Well, hmm... maybe do a little more research.

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funny thing about hydrogen cars. I had always assumed you would put water in the tank, separate the water, expel the o2 and burn the h.

That would be great, except that you can't get enough energy to separate the Hydrogen and Oxygen fast enough, not to mention the other hardware that would be required. But if they could do it, that would be cool as hell.

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I've seen that a few times on youtube.... pretty sure my next gas auto will be my last

Same here. My wifey and I are shopping for new cars this year and we aren't even considering gas cars. There are 4 Tesla's on my street, 3 PHEV's, 2 Bolts, 2 Volts, and 4 Leaf's too. Gas cars are falling out of favor.

Gas cars will never go away though. If electric becomes super-popular, then gas cars will become niches, and grow in popularity again, like Vinyl records.

SBJ · 02-10-2020, 11:58 PM

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Charging them is easier than gassing-up, and alot cheaper too. I plug-in when I go downtown, go shopping, or go to the movies. I plug-in at night. Simple, cheap, clean.

not everyone lives in a major city like you. Stop talking out your ass like charging is everywhere. My hometown in Indiana has 20k people and I've never seen a charging station. I think the closest bigger city would be Fort Wayne or South Bend but that is 1.5 hours and 45 mins away from me.

That is why I say EV cars will not be the only cars on the road for 40-50 years cause of the cost and what people want.

_Richard_ · 02-11-2020, 02:08 AM

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but what about the fact he says only 2% of people want an EV car. Can't sell all EV cars if 98% of the people still want gas engines.

it's a weird percentage considering EV etc accounted for 6% of the market for the US in 2018

SBJ · 02-11-2020, 02:30 AM

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it's a weird percentage considering EV etc accounted for 6% of the market for the US in 2018

2%/6% but still that means 94% of cars bought were gas or diesel.

Also, I looked and there is one charging station (3 plugs) in my hometown that has 20k people

lock · 02-11-2020, 02:56 AM

Wealth was created from Oil. Ask them to part with it and put it back into economy umm no. So oil is here to stay.

CaptainHowdy · 02-11-2020, 03:10 AM

CurrentlySober · 02-11-2020, 03:24 AM

i cunt a4d ANY car...

Den BongaCash · 02-11-2020, 04:43 AM

With very few charging stations and high prices on EV cars, I will stick to the plain old gasoline car, thank you very much.

notinmybackyard · 02-11-2020, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

not everyone lives in a major city like you. Stop talking out your ass like charging is everywhere. My hometown in Indiana has 20k people and I've never seen a charging station. I think the closest bigger city would be Fort Wayne or South Bend but that is 1.5 hours and 45 mins away from me.

That is why I say EV cars will not be the only cars on the road for 40-50 years cause of the cost and what people want.

If there was a dildo made by Apple with an app for his Iphone... Mark would shove it up his ass and be posting about how great it is.

That nerd will suck off anything that sells itself as a new and improved plastic gadget.

I've got no doubts that given a choice between getting hard looking at a hot woman's tits and jerking off to Elon Musk's cock Mark will take Musk.

NatalieK · 02-11-2020, 05:22 AM

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not everyone lives in a major city like you. Stop talking out your ass like charging is everywhere. My hometown in Indiana has 20k people and I've never seen a charging station. I think the closest bigger city would be Fort Wayne or South Bend but that is 1.5 hours and 45 mins away from me.

That is why I say EV cars will not be the only cars on the road for 40-50 years cause of the cost and what people want.

TBH, i´d have agreed with Mark, there´s electric stations every 10 or 20 mile away from each other in Spain now. It was just this morning I noticed a new charging station in our boulevard not 3 mile from me.

Like Portugal, Spain´s obviously trying it´s best to convert people now

2MuchMark · 02-11-2020, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

Gas in my area is at a all-time low at around $2.16 a gallon. Also, he talked about making gas cars run better. I drove (not mine) a Ford SUV a few years ago with an Echo Boost 4 cylinder and that thing had some pickup like a 6 or 8.

But the bottom line is most people will just not give up their gas cars esp when gas is so cheap

Correct. There are all kinds of reasons to keep a gasoline car. Electric makes sense in some situations, but not all. For example, Electricity is cheap here in Quebec, but really expensive in Ontario.

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not everyone lives in a major city like you. Stop talking out your ass like charging is everywhere.

Actually I live in the suburbs. When I say charging is everywhere, it is - you can charge in your own home. Charging at 110v is too slow, but 220v is pretty good. And in some locations, you can even upgrade to 440.

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My hometown in Indiana has 20k people and I've never seen a charging station. I think the closest bigger city would be Fort Wayne or South Bend but that is 1.5 hours and 45 mins away from me.

Of course you are right, but I think maybe you aren't looking at this right.

Let's assume you are 1 hour away from Fort Wayne and travel to that city every day, and your average speed is 60 miles per hour, or about 100 Kilometers per hour (Canada, eh?). A Car like the Hundai Kona Electric 2019 would get you there and back home with at least 50 miles to spare. If you have the big bucks, a Tesla would get you there and back and there again with range leftover too. Both assume that there is no charging station at your destination to plug-in to. https://insideevs.com/reviews/344001/compare-evs/

Of course, range anxiety is a huge factor. What if this, what if that, etc. If I were you, I would have a hard time buying an electric car. I would probably go for a Hybrid instead, or just stick to gas, until more charging stations popped up, and/or until gas prices rose, and/or the price of electricity dropped.

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That is why I say EV cars will not be the only cars on the road for 40-50 years cause of the cost and what people want.

Of course. Some will only want Gas-powered cars. EV's are not always useful or practical for everyone. But in some cases...

2MuchMark · 02-11-2020, 07:44 AM

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If there was a dildo made by Apple with an app for his Iphone... Mark would shove it up his ass and be posting about how great it is.

Not if its a bad app.

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IThat nerd

Feel free to call me a Nerd any time you want. It suits me perfectly. What label can I call you?

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I've got no doubts that given a choice between getting hard looking at a hot woman's tits and jerking off to Elon Musk's cock Mark will take Musk.

You live in Montreal. I live 5 minutes from Montreal. The data and facts I presented you with are accurate for both of us. Your hostility towards it makes no sense.

2MuchMark · 02-11-2020, 07:50 AM

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TBH, i´d have agreed with Mark, there´s electric stations every 10 or 20 mile away from each other in Spain now. It was just this morning I noticed a new charging station in our boulevard not 3 mile from me.

Like Portugal, Spain´s obviously trying it´s best to convert people now

The ammount of options we have in Canada for electric cars now. Check this out:

This is Petro Canada Gasoline Stations, upgraded to include EV Charging Stations.

https://www.petro-canada.ca/en/perso...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

I *Never* thought I would see something like this. I am so amazed.

_Richard_ · 02-11-2020, 08:10 AM

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2%/6% but still that means 94% of cars bought were gas or diesel.

Also, I looked and there is one charging station (3 plugs) in my hometown that has 20k people

err my apologies, i think 6% is EV/BEV etc, and EV is something like 2%

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