Originally Posted by OneHungLo

He has a VOD site. I think he's saying the affiliate bought all his content (like clips4sale) then gave it away.

Originally Posted by sarettah

Nah. Celandina gets very emotional when it comes to pirated content. I get the impression that they have been burned badly and probably more than once.

This thread is the first time I have seen them knocking on the affiliate system or affiliates in general.

Celandina will be in almost any thread about someone starting a tube site with a comment about "Oh, a new pirate" or something like that but usually doesn't say much about marketing. I don't think they would advocate magic join links and I think they realize that traffic is important alongside content.

Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

A file locker shit "buying" content??? How long you've been in this industry?
They get it of surfer forums with site rips, then list it for download. Nobody "buys" content.
Most of it is 100% automated.

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

This is my interpretation. celandina can correct me if I'm wrong.

celandina runs a VOD site that has about 50 movies available for customers to buy and affiliates were paid a 20% commission to promote celandina's site. The affiliate legitimately bought celandina's full movie library at the VOD site using 2 or more usernames that were unrelated to his affiliate username. Affiliate did not buy content through the affiliate program. The affiliate then uploaded the full movies to pirate tube sites and posted legitimate affiliate links to celandina's affiliate program on his blog, as well as prohibited links to pirate tube sites and files lockers on those same blog pages. Affiliate tried to get paid commissions from his own purchases as a customer (think of the 20% commission as a discount for the content that the affiliate purchased) as well as for any sales that he referred.

While there are many thieves out there, there are also many legitimate affiliates out there including jscott, sarettah and myself who operate pursuant to a sponsor's affiliate program terms. We use sponsor provided content to promote sales to their sites and don't send traffic to pirate tubes or file lockers.

Originally Posted by celandina

Truth hurts I guess.... The impression you get that I got badly burned is not an impression, it is a fact and is ongoing ...My DMCA company removed over 700 links with my content from the web just in the last 60 days. Traffic which is not converting or only converting to more clicks (as most here ) is ONLY worth to those who have multiple dodgy tubes and live off clicks from mostly stolen content. Show me a tube which does not contain stolen content and I show you a Dodo bird. You can prove me wrong of course, but I do not think so.

Originally Posted by Brian mike

Joke aside :

If you did not know how to become a Pirates , there you have it all 101 free course

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Not all tube sites contain pirated content. Some legitimate tubes, including my own, only use sponsor provided promotional videos and contain no user submitted content.
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Originally Posted by celandina

God man you must rereally slow. I have a VOD site with real feature films on it. I do NOT have a membership site with gonzo videos, some skanky tube, camwhore site or a fucking blog. Anybody can buy a movie for 29 Euros from my site. I do NOT control that. Just like Amazon Prime. If you are so smart tell me Einstein how I can block a pirate from buying my content and then uploading it somewhere, I five you Kudos for it.

Originally Posted by celandina

Learn how to fucking read ! Somebody had to buy it first and then illegally shared it.

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE

Somebody, but not that affiliate, stupid. He grabbed it somewhere else and re-uploaded it to generate his own download links.

Originally Posted by celandina