Business Are there any affiliate Whales left?

[NaughtyRob]

Back before tubes the Whales ruled the game, have any of them lasted the past decade?

[Colmike9]

There are a few, they just don't talk about it.

[NaughtyRob]

Sounds about like what I figured.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Colmike7

There are a few, they just don't talk about it.

I'd say the biggest affiliates have either:

- started their own paysite/offers/programs
- started a CPA network
- have private/custom whitelabels
- all of the above, started CPA networks with their own private whitelabels inside

Even mailers are selling traffic per click now, or have long standing relationships with a 1-2 companies.

If you're asking if individual free site operators are sending a ton of sales to a single program anymore... probably not.

[NaughtyRob]

Yeah, your last sentence is pretty much what I was asking about.

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I'd say the biggest affiliates have either:

- started their own paysite/offers/programs
- started a CPA network
- have private/custom whitelabels
- all of the above, started CPA networks with their own private whitelabels inside

Even mailers are selling traffic per click now, or have long standing relationships with a 1-2 companies.

If you're asking if individual free site operators are sending a ton of sales to a single program anymore... probably not.

[CourtneyR]

Yup still a good number of them, but yes they are quieter these days.

[celandina]

I keep saying affiliates are overrated, most do not pay and many have "crashed".

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by celandina

I keep saying affiliates are overrated, most do not pay and many have "crashed".

You don't even know what an affiliate is.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You don't even know what an affiliate is.

If there's any whales who want something new to promote...yea. lol

[celandina]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You don't even know what an affiliate is.

enjoy your music

[CurrentlySober]

I am the size of a small whale, yet alas not an affiliate...

[AutumnBH]

What kind of monthly volume qualifies you as a whale in 2020? Specifically in the cams niche?

I remember when I started, MikeFold or Rich from Maxcash or someone used to preach that your first goal as a newbie was to get to 50K clicks per day to sponsors, and then worry about conversions... That was in the days when paysites would convert 1:500.

[adultchatpay]

how much $$$ are we talking to be considered a whale?

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by adultchatpay

how much $$$ are we talking to be considered a whale?

That's always the question. GFYers will tell you sending 30 sales a month to a program is a "whale" nowadays, and will believe that no one can send 10 sales a day, let alone 20-50-100.

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by adultchatpay

how much $$$ are we talking to be considered a whale?

If you have to ask, you are not one.

To me, a whale is an affiliate who generates enough business to be able to successfully negotiate private deals that pay more than what is generally offered.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

If you have to ask, you are not one.

I mean, it's a matter of opinion. I see people on here say stuff like what fuzebox suggested, and many here don't think 10+ sales per day is possible. Those of us who actually do that realize those people are just projecting, but different topic.

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

To me, a whale is an affiliate who generates enough business to be able to successfully negotiate private deals that pay more than what is generally offered.

That's not super rare, or maybe all of my industry friends aren't broke dicks, I guess.

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by trevesty

That's not super rare, or maybe all of my industry friends aren't broke dicks, I guess.

Perhaps not rare, but it certainly disqualifies the vast majority of affiliates.

[7k USD]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Back before tubes the Whales ruled the game, have any of them lasted the past decade?

Probably yes.

[BAKO]

Super affiliates are around and always will be around. Matter of who you know these days

[Niktamer]

are you pointing fingers at anyone!?

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I'd say the biggest affiliates have either:

- started their own paysite/offers/programs
- started a CPA network
- have private/custom whitelabels
- all of the above, started CPA networks with their own private whitelabels inside

Even mailers are selling traffic per click now, or have long standing relationships with a 1-2 companies.

If you're asking if individual free site operators are sending a ton of sales to a single program anymore... probably not.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by Niktamer

are you pointing fingers at anyone!?

Were your ears burning!

[PorcoRosso]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I'd say the biggest affiliates have either:

- started their own paysite/offers/programs
- started a CPA network
- have private/custom whitelabels
- all of the above, started CPA networks with their own private whitelabels inside

Even mailers are selling traffic per click now, or have long standing relationships with a 1-2 companies.

If you're asking if individual free site operators are sending a ton of sales to a single program anymore... probably not.

Yes that's what happened for most.

In the 90s/2000s there's been a generation of smart young entrepreneurs that managed to generate 10-20K$ monthly profits in our industry... and while some drowned themselves in an ocean of escorts, mojitos and cocaine, others thought "Mmmmh... I have some cash... how could I invest this cash wisely to make more? Oh right, I can invest in my own business, grow a team and make my own products/services".

Also 10-20years ago I think our industry was easier, it was requiring less skills and competition was less organised.
So you could be a solo organisation and still make a lot of money.
Today, you can still do good business, but for that you need more skills, more work, and more cooperation .

I'm not even a guppie