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Old 02-03-2021, 11:46 AM   #1
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Wtf AWEmpire

After one week hard working developing their redlabel to match our site we get this. $500 down the drain.


Dear Partner,

We regret that we must inform you today that we are taking down our RedLabel solution.
We need to do some important maintenance until then we respectfully ask you to delete the RedLabel from your site. As this maintenance is urgent please act as soon as possible.

Please be informed that your connection to our RedLabel API has been cancelled.

We invite you to promote our outstanding cam-solutions with our established Whitelabels in the meantime.
We thank you for your attention to this situation, and look forward to working together past this point. For any open questions please do not hesitate to contact [email protected]

Best regards,

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Old 02-03-2021, 11:52 AM   #2
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Old 02-03-2021, 12:26 PM   #3
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I got the same email. I just spent the last month getting it set up and finally had it working halfway the way I wanted it. Didn't cost me any money, but I've put a shit load of time into trying to get a workable cam black label solution and thought I finally had it figured out. Very disappointing.

BUT the email doesn't really say whether it's permanent or temporary. Maybe it will come back in some form. I've sent a message to my rep with questions, so maybe I'll hear back soon.
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Old 02-03-2021, 12:51 PM   #5
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Wow. Put a lot of effort into this.
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Old 02-03-2021, 01:00 PM   #6
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Received the same thing :S

So sad, we developed some cool themes for that API :S
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So I just heard from my rep, and it looks like it probably isn't coming back anytime soon. Apparently there were issues that were just draining too many resources and they couldn't maintain it effectively. I get that. I'm a business owner, and sometimes you have to cut bait when things aren't going the right direction.

But still, a little notice would have been nice.....
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We got the info from them too to pull it from our tube software for the time being.

If I had to take an educated guess as a programmer, I would say it's probably the geoip lookups that are killing them. Every single request had to be sent with the user's IP address so that it wouldn't show models that had certain countries blocked, and if people were listing the cams on video pages and homepages of their tubes/etc then that was probably hundreds if not thousands of geoip lookups that had to be done per second.
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We got the info from them too to pull it from our tube software for the time being.

If I had to take an educated guess as a programmer, I would say it's probably the geoip lookups that are killing them. Every single request had to be sent with the user's IP address so that it wouldn't show models that had certain countries blocked, and if people were listing the cams on video pages and homepages of their tubes/etc then that was probably hundreds if not thousands of geoip lookups that had to be done per second.
Maybe GDPR? Are you allowed to use IP's without consent?
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BUT the email doesn't really say whether it's permanent or temporary.
Cancelled implies permanent.
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Right, but that doesn't mean it couldn't come back in some future iteration that people can sign up for again. That's what I meant. But alas, it won't be anytime soon from what I hear.
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Maybe GDPR? Are you allowed to use IP's without consent?
I don't see why not... an IP is not personally identifiable information. An IP identifies a device or a network, not a person.
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Somebody from AWE should grow fucking balls and come to this place and explain.
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We got the info from them too to pull it from our tube software for the time being.

If I had to take an educated guess as a programmer, I would say it's probably the geoip lookups that are killing them. Every single request had to be sent with the user's IP address so that it wouldn't show models that had certain countries blocked, and if people were listing the cams on video pages and homepages of their tubes/etc then that was probably hundreds if not thousands of geoip lookups that had to be done per second.
my educated guess is that it was affiliate SEO friendly and they didn't like that
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Somebody from AWE should grow fucking balls and come to this place and explain.
We can mark this as done

So I'm here, reading this and what should I say.
Believe me, we are even sadder that we needed to take it down.

As a business we sometimes need to take decisions we're also not happy with.
Unfortunately I can't provide any further information for the reasons.

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my educated guess is that it was affiliate SEO friendly, and they didn't like that
This definitely not! One of the reasons we developed RedLabel is to make Whitelabels SEO friendly.
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I doubt that. That would be both foreseeable and expected from the start, and they probably would have given longer notice.
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We can mark this as done

So I'm here, reading this and what should I say.
Believe me, we are even sadder that we needed to take it down.

As a business we sometimes need to take decisions we're also not happy with.
Unfortunately I can't provide any further information for the reasons.

As many of you have their own businesses I assume you will understand why.
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I like many others are far more then just sad, we're pissed off! After investing hours of our time and money in this and now that's all pissed up the wall.

Less than a day notice is an absolute joke! Now I have a site sitting there without cams and a shitload of seo work.

Even if it comes back in the future I'm out, I'll look at other options for my site thanks.
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I like many others are far more then just sad, we're pissed off! After investing hours of our time and money in this and now that's all pissed up the wall.

Less than a day notice is an absolute joke! Now I have a site sitting there without cams and a shitload of seo work.

Even if it comes back in the future I'm out, I'll look at other options for my site thanks.
I can totally understand that you're pissed. Not everything in business is foreseeable. As mentioned, if we would have the choice it would be still up.
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heh, my RL on one of my tubes was top 25 for some pretty big cam keywords... then this happened.

It is what it is, but I won't push AWE white labels as was very much suggested to me over and over. Back to pushing my CB whitelabels pretty hard.
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heh, my RL on one of my tubes was top 25 for some pretty big cam keywords... then this happened.

It is what it is, but I won't push AWE white labels as was very much suggested to me over and over. Back to pushing my CB whitelabels pretty hard.
I won't be pushing my whitelabel or anything they have to offer either. They can talk about business until the cows come home but the trusts gone. I already do well with cb so will look in the stripchat direction. Maybe something can be salvaged from this mess.
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Just use the XML feed and create your own red label. Not hard to do if you were good enough to create the red label with the red label feed.
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Just use the XML feed and create your own red label. Not hard to do if you were good enough to create the red label with the red label feed.
The red label was something completely different, it let you do the whole transaction including the token spending and billing directly on your site.
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The red label was something completely different, it let you do the whole transaction including the token spending and billing directly on your site.
Konrad, what are the odds of being able to get something set up with the Streammate API for MB7.0? I'm trying to figure out what my options are here.
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Just use the XML feed and create your own red label. Not hard to do if you were good enough to create the red label with the red label feed.
Very different animal. XML allows you to show live models but not stream and interact with them on your site . The black label offers the entire product A-Z on your own domain. Zero traffic leak.
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We got the info from them too to pull it from our tube software for the time being.

If I had to take an educated guess as a programmer, I would say it's probably the geoip lookups that are killing them. Every single request had to be sent with the user's IP address so that it wouldn't show models that had certain countries blocked, and if people were listing the cams on video pages and homepages of their tubes/etc then that was probably hundreds if not thousands of geoip lookups that had to be done per second.
I respect you as a developer (way above my level, lol), but I don't think the geoip lookups had anything to do with this.

I suspect this had more to do with optics. Everyone is paranoid after the VISA/PH debacle.
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We can mark this as done
Maybe the growing part. It sure takes a lot of something to claim you're here to explain right before you say:

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Unfortunately I can't provide any further information for the reasons.
The correct word in this context is "won't" not "can't" -- at least you could be honest. If you don't have answers for people, why even show up in the thread?
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Just went on cambuilder to check things out and saw I had an old whitelabel I forgot all about. Was surprised to see I have over 1k to be paid out once the required docs are sent in ��

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I wanted to recommend them to you yesterday but I just forgot to post it.

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I wanted to recommend them to you yesterday but I just forgot to post it.

I am still using the legacy wm.mtree login

How do I move to cambuilder? My logins don't work from mtree.

Or, are they 2 different platforms?
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We can mark this as done

So I'm here, reading this and what should I say.
Believe me, we are even sadder that we needed to take it down.

As a business we sometimes need to take decisions we're also not happy with.
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This definitely not! One of the reasons we developed RedLabel is to make Whitelabels SEO friendly.
That's not an answer an not an explanation of your failure, they should sue your ass.
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No worries mate I got there in the end
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How do I move to cambuilder? My logins don't work from mtree.

Or, are they 2 different platforms?
Sorry, I have never used MTree. I have been only promoting them via CamBuilder.

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I'm guessing it's a biller/something else kind of issue and nothing technical..
From the two platforms I have promoted before one of them canceled because of biller issue and the other was the amount of bandwidth black label's were using.

So it could be also one of the issues above
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