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![]() Without losing time with some crappy introductions ,I'll just leave the main details down below :
1)The collaboration consists in a joint-partnership with a newly established remote-based camgirl studio. 2)They are based on a People-to-People collaboration instead of the classical studio business model ,and I suppose that the reason is because of their limited finances. 3)The idea is based on a 'gofundme' way and the models are in the situation of a 'freelancer' and they are looking for equipment funding so that they can start camming. 4)In the whole partnership idea,a model is assigned to its financer,who will get 10% of her/their(for couples) monthly earnings in exchange for providing either the equipment(if you happen to have surplusses of PCs,cameras..etc) or the funding(~900$) necessary for buying it. The Equipment consists of : a camera,a good PC,a wireless keyboard and studio umbrella light setup. 5)The studio,because it's new, is avoiding financial overstretching by offering this partnership,in which the excess number of models will be available for this type of collaboration,with a monthly limit of only 1model/financer,also taking in account the limited number of such potential models. 6)The ROI is very good,it extends over the course of 1year and they can basically guarantee a 4x return,while obviously mentioning that the growth is limited by the number of models(as with any other studios).Since model withdrawals are recommended to be made once every 2 weeks,the financer should receive their commission-based profit at the same time,and a report of their earnings should be sent either at the same time or monthly. 7)The average monthly earnings are around 2500$/girl and 4000$/couple .There are more couples interested than single girls,so for every sponsored couple ,based on the average monthly earnings,the respective 10% commission would bring you 400$/month ,and a total of 4800$/year [before taxes] ,which is 5.3x more than the 900$ used for financing once. 8)All safety measures wanted by the financer,based on further discussions, will be offered,since it's normal for everyone to think at the safety of their money first,and only secondarily at the potential profit.. The main way would be that of directly connecting you,the financer,with the respective model/couple and you can sign a direct contract agreement. Before anyone points out,yes I obviously get benefits for bringing more potential investors.. But at the same time,since I know them personally, I can share some of the advantages(if the opportunity occurs) with whoever is interested. If interested,leave your email and/or telegram/whatsapp.
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Please if you send emails also post the questions here so in case another person is interested in the same thing,they can find more answers here
Current answers : - The studio is not mine,but I personally know the owners - I already mentioned in the thread that I get certain advantages,and I think it's obvious that nobody does anything for free.. - The mentioned ROI is a median,of course it's possible to be a little bit lower or higher,it kinda depends on the 'qualities' of the model - You are able to sign the contract directly with the models you are financing
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What about the 20% of models that will take your shit and go camming somewhere else ?
Not many people will bother trying to sue someone over $900 not worth the effort.
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Sounds legit mr. Seodestroy sir
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By now not one of them managed to go as far as getting the 'steal' ,mostly because everything is sent gradually,even the details and advices and there are a lot of requests based on identification in which the 'bad seeds' are refusing to continue,most of them don't even get to sign the contract with the studio . Yet the most important factor seems to be that of financial perspective,because most of them are in a poor financial situation,only something like 1/10 have or are able to get the necessary PC( one meeting the requirements),thus they prefer to be correct and get a stable income that'd get them out of the bad situation. Those that manage to 'scam' get as far as getting all the professional indications and some hidden tips which are very good at increasing the results,but without a certain software that artificially increases the number of viewers,most of them get to have modest results because of the very high competition .Some of those likely continue doing it on their own in spite of modest results,and some of them even try contacting again from another number ,either to try getting the software,which is impossible as it's not being given to no one,only the studio keeps it ,or they supposedly try being correct this time but are refused immediately as the studio already has their details from the previous conversation. Another answer I've gotten regarding your question is that,in the presumed event in which one of them would manage to get the steal,regarding the equipment, the studio will either refund you or it will assign(preferably from their point of view,but it's your decision) you another model. Everything is based on math as the ROI(not including taxes) divided by the risk(of that attempt by the models,not even talking about the fact that for a successful attempt the risk is much lower) is higher than 30x ,which means that by far the best decision is for the studio to take the risk for the financer ,thus ensuring a long-term collaboration and financing,which is the only thing they need. Everyone that has done business with me knows that everything I say is accurate and everything is easy to be proven.I'm looking forward to hearing legit questions from everyone,but you should at least read the details,and I'll point out the most important fact regarding your statement : "while obviously mentioning that the growth is limited by the number of models" so,as everybody with a brain can figure out,it's not possible to apply it 'an infinite' of times,repeating the ROI infinitely thus getting 'infinite $s' From what I observed you are some sort of a clown,and even worse, from what I observed in a thread about Ross when he got scammed, you were supporting the scammer instead of support the man that got scammed,who is a serious guy.. Pointing out towards the thread in which you were unruly towards a girl and her data on this forum also proves that you're not a man. This thread is for normal and moral people,so please have a little bit of decency and ignore it. Try getting attention from other people, I don't like clowns. P.S. : I already reported you for associating me with such people,who are the likes of yours and your education. And as I said before,if you can put 10k$ where your mouth is standing,I'm more than happy to continue discussing even with a clown like you.
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Also, your writing is horrible, makes me think you think faster than you really should, reveals you are trying to put up a smoke cloud, makes me think you are a leech.
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@SeoDealer please don't take in a bad way what I'm about to say ( I previously made some good deal with you )
![]() But..... - 1K to invest per model ? It's already a bad idea unless you're her Boyfriend/ PIMP ![]() I think BTC make you better profit on investement these days to be honest ![]() - Studio Owners with no money to get started with equipment should not be called Owners ![]() - Profit Split = Models -> Owners -> Studio expense -> Yourself ....... ![]() - Contract not worth much after all... Your dealing with model with an Empty bank/ Broke model. Not even worth it to sue them for 1K...... Last time I check my lawyers fee's was about $500+/ hours Locally I push traffic to Chaturbate, Camsoda & Stripchat and you should do the same mate. Collect that 20% Revshare ![]()
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I know my writing is terrible,I'm not a good writer,I'm more of a math guy,thus I'm trying to explain everything based on numbers since I find it easier for me to express this way. I heard the same thing on the first thread I wrote in this section : https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...tors-post.html , and I observe that in the following ones,based on the same ideas, https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...-sell-gme.html and https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...-analysis.html my wording explanation was mostly bad,but as it was proven,numbers were right. First thing I did was trying to look at the current proposal from a 2nd person point of view and tried to explain any possible issues that might have made me have doubts too and it's clear that I failed to do it through wording,but I clearly presented the relevant numbers. I disagree with you on 1 thing however,the thread(and maybe it's wording too) was made in a way that'd make me feel confident seeing it ,thus it's mostly made for similar people ,so I'm clearly not looking for 'dumb people' but for the exact opposite. Regarding your 2nd comment, I've done over 20deals in this forum,thus everyone knows I'm a correct person . Not only that,but I'm always trying to help others as much as I can. I must say that I like your bluntness..
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![]() Only the EXCESS number of models are being given for financing,so it's not about all the leads . I agree with you that dealing with a broke model is bad from a contract point of view,but at the same time it's good from a seriosity point of view as they want to get out of the bad situation,thus they won't take risks to blow it up ![]()
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So which country/city is the best place to set up a cam studio? I always thought a college town (Tuscon, AZ where ASU is) will be a good spot.
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Well, I agree that regardless of the situation there will be attempts ,what I was pointing out is that the chances for this are lower in this cases ,not that they aren't existing..
It's actually from Eastern Europe . As for the USA, I suppose that by the same logic the best places to look for are in the states with the lowest gdp per capita , and with highest unemployment rate. For example,Kentucky would be a good choice
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This is not a good idea or even a solid business concept. As a mainstream tech. founder, having sold a media startup & launching a new XXX paysite - while I am partial to your entrepreneurial spirit BUT I sense you've already dreamed of rainbows with hold at the end & this launching you into the WallStreet Journal..lol.. But it's not wise, thus I will simply slyly grin & wish you Godspeed.
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I stopped reading after "guarantee a 4x return"....
When offers include text like "only for a limited time", "guarantee high ROI", "low risk" - its a either coming from a ignorant fool, or a scammer... either way - stay clear of it |
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Yep that is actually classical marketing scheme to sell whatever you try to sell.
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The risk is mathematically expressed up above, that is an estimation but it's a very accurate point of view. I'd likely think the same way as you if I'd have read as much as you did,so basically close to nothing. Everybody that has done business with me on this forum know the way I am,thus I don't need to use more words on this..
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if it looks smells and tastes like chicken.... It rarely turns out to be beef.
I have seen offers like this the last 20 years on GFY and every other forum, and it usually ends with loads of people loosing money. Be offended all you want, dont give a fuck |
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Find a person that lost money because of me,whether it be because of a deal or my suggestions (either stocks or crypto) and I'll give you 10k. Nobody is offended my friend, I encourage all such questions and statement because this is normal, I'd be interested in all the possible questions and issues too.
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SEO Dealer,
I am not a fan of the trolls and critics here on GFY, but in this case, the current list of members bring up points and concerns that are considered common sense. There is so so much more to camming then lights, camera, and a PC. My reach is deep in Europe, and I can appreciate the attempted entrepreneurial hustle, therefore I have sent you an email from alex AT nalem DOT com. All of my questions are simple, and require simple short honest answers. Good luck!
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