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Rochard · 06-14-2021, 10:22 AM

Being sa I run YNOT Mail and also our CRM platform YNOT Market, I find mainstream marketing amazing. These mainstream companies do it right.

One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address.

Another company - a bike company - I visit their website often. Exactly half an hour after I visted their site they sent me an email asking "Did you see anything you like"?

Adult needs to do this.

fuzebox · 06-14-2021, 11:30 AM

https://getemails.com is one of the NoCRM providers that connects the browser pixel to your email address.

Would be cost prohibitive to do this with most adult products. I personally wouldn't send an unsolicitied adult email without the user opting in.

But you are right, the tools available to mainstream businesses are amazing

RyuLion · 06-14-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

https://getemails.com

Definitely checking this out later!

sunvape · 06-14-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion

Definitely checking this out later!

Wow that is amazing! Definitely checking it out tonight! thx

Rochard · 06-14-2021, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

https://getemails.com is one of the NoCRM providers that connects the browser pixel to your email address.

Would be cost prohibitive to do this with most adult products. I personally wouldn't send an unsolicitied adult email without the user opting in.

But you are right, the tools available to mainstream businesses are amazing

Mainstream does it all. I have one friend who works for a company that does this... They install software on your site and every time someone hits that site they can tell exactly who you are and.... provide the website with your email address.

Major (Tom) · 06-14-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Being sa I run YNOT Mail and also our CRM platform YNOT Market, I find mainstream marketing amazing. These mainstream companies do it right.

One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address.

Another company - a bike company - I visit their website often. Exactly half an hour after I visted their site they sent me an email asking "Did you see anything you like"?

Adult needs to do this.

Is it that? Or do more things end up in the spam box when it’s adult related. It’s even tough forwarding an email to oneself if it’s adult related

Furf · 06-14-2021, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address.

I presume you must have given your email address otherwise how the hell would they send you an email?

I use a Wordpress plugin called Tideo

I can track in real time users that visit my site. I can contact them while they are on my site. I can see which page they are currently viewing and ask questions regarding that.
They can ask a support question and I can answer in real time or, I can send an email later following up the support question from the chat box.

What I can't do is somehow send an email to some random without knowing that persons email first.

WiredGuy · 06-14-2021, 06:40 PM

Does this service give you their email address or do they email them on your behalf?
WG

KyleC · 06-14-2021, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Being sa I run YNOT Mail and also our CRM platform YNOT Market, I find mainstream marketing amazing. These mainstream companies do it right.

One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address.

Another company - a bike company - I visit their website often. Exactly half an hour after I visted their site they sent me an email asking "Did you see anything you like"?

Adult needs to do this.

So...."Did you see anything you like"?

ruff · 06-14-2021, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Furf

I presume you must have given your email address otherwise how the hell would they send you an email?

I use a Wordpress plugin called Tideo

I can track in real time users that visit my site. I can contact them while they are on my site. I can see which page they are currently viewing and ask questions regarding that.
They can ask a support question and I can answer in real time or, I can send an email later following up the support question from the chat box.

What I can't do is somehow send an email to some random without knowing that persons email first.

Is this Tideo plugin custom made?

sunvape · 06-14-2021, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Is this Tideo plugin custom made?

hmu on skype about crypto seo

NEED4SPEED · 06-15-2021, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Furf

I presume you must have given your email address otherwise how the hell would they send you an email?

I use a Wordpress plugin called Tideo

I can track in real time users that visit my site. I can contact them while they are on my site. I can see which page they are currently viewing and ask questions regarding that.
They can ask a support question and I can answer in real time or, I can send an email later following up the support question from the chat box.

What I can't do is somehow send an email to some random without knowing that persons email first.

Send me their [Tideo] PM plz. I used to use a Shopify site-tracker plugin (Lucky Orange) but it was so damn buggy it was a waste.

Fenris Wolf · 06-15-2021, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Is this Tideo plugin custom made?

I am guessing this https://www.tidio.com/ but it looks like it's moved on from just a wordpress plugin.

Manfap · 06-15-2021, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Adult needs to do this.

Adult does do this if you set shit up properly.

blackmonsters · 06-15-2021, 04:21 AM

Sounds irritating to me. Just more spam.

baddog · 06-15-2021, 10:02 AM

Double opt in isn't a requirement for adult spam any more?

fuzebox · 06-15-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Does this service give you their email address or do they email them on your behalf?
WG

They give you their email address.

Phoenix · 06-15-2021, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

https://getemails.com is one of the NoCRM providers that connects the browser pixel to your email address.

Would be cost prohibitive to do this with most adult products. I personally wouldn't send an unsolicitied adult email without the user opting in.

But you are right, the tools available to mainstream businesses are amazing

oh nice will check that out thanks

ravo · 06-15-2021, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Being sa I run YNOT Mail and also our CRM platform YNOT Market, I find mainstream marketing amazing. These mainstream companies do it right.

One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address.

Another company - a bike company - I visit their website often. Exactly half an hour after I visted their site they sent me an email asking "Did you see anything you like"?

Adult needs to do this.

We chatted about this a year ago, and you thought that was illegal, no? We already did this for adult - remember getadultemails.com?

ravo · 06-15-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

https://getemails.com is one of the NoCRM providers that connects the browser pixel to your email address.

Would be cost prohibitive to do this with most adult products. I personally wouldn't send an unsolicitied adult email without the user opting in.

But you are right, the tools available to mainstream businesses are amazing

Actually, the pricing for adult wasn't that bad. You could get down to the 8 cents/email range with volume buys.

But, agreed, it's spammy. "You enjoyed watching Kathi on cam - now sign up here to get a free 10 minutes with her...".

Diomed · 06-15-2021, 01:21 PM

Apparently im not understanding this correctly..

You're visiting a random website you never registered with or have any type of account with... and they are somehow sifting out and spamming your email address? The email address you never gave them...?

CurrentlySober · 06-15-2021, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Diomed

Apparently im not understanding this correctly..

You're visiting a random website you never registered with or have any type of account with... and they are somehow sifting out and spamming your email address? The email address you never gave them...?

yep.

8char

CaptainHowdy · 06-15-2021, 01:59 PM

That is amazing : / ? ?

Diomed · 06-15-2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

yep.

8char

I need this explaining to me like my forehead takes up an unusually large surface area of my face.

How could a website sift your email address from just hitting their page?

Me no likey..

ruff · 06-15-2021, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sunvape

hmu on skype about crypto seo

What the fuck does this mean?

fuzebox · 06-15-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Diomed

I need this explaining to me like my forehead takes up an unusually large surface area of my face.

How could a website sift your email address from just hitting their page?

Me no likey..

They share data with a large network of sites that do have access to your email address. Using their javascript pixel they can identify you easily via cookie, no different than using facebook/google pixels to track sales.

ravo · 06-15-2021, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Diomed

I need this explaining to me like my forehead takes up an unusually large surface area of my face.

How could a website sift your email address from just hitting their page?

Me no likey..

From getemails.com

"How Does GetEmails Work?

Anonymous Website Visitor Identification

You put our pixel on your website, and we match anonymous digital identifiers to rich customer profiles.

Our DeliveryID™️ Email Graph has over 250 million US individuals and gets 100 million updates daily. Its linked-and-current database includes hashed emails, MAIDs, emails, names, and postal addresses, all of which we can tie to your CRM or CDP’s 1st party cookie, or attach to a session ID.

We can typically match over 70% of your US traffic to at least one addressable identifier."

Speigelau · 06-15-2021, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Being sa I run YNOT Mail and also our CRM platform YNOT Market, I find mainstream marketing amazing. These mainstream companies do it right.

One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address.

Another company - a bike company - I visit their website often. Exactly half an hour after I visted their site they sent me an email asking "Did you see anything you like"?

Adult needs to do this.

This has been going on for quite some time in mainstream and I've seen it used in adult with great success. You just have to be very creative in your approach. I'm surprised that your job is email marketing and you're just now learning this.

Furf · 06-15-2021, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff

Is this Tideo plugin custom made?

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Originally Posted by NEED4SPEED

Send me their [Tideo] PM plz. I used to use a Shopify site-tracker plugin (Lucky Orange) but it was so damn buggy it was a waste.

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Originally Posted by Fenris Wolf

I am guessing this https://www.tidio.com/ but it looks like it's moved on from just a wordpress plugin.

The link to the plugin is https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/tidio-live-chat/

it's a free plugin which can be upgraded in multiple ways depending on what you want.

It works in multiple ways.

1. You can access it through your wp-admin panel
2. You can download a desktop app for Windows
3. You can use a mobile app for Android and IOS

fuzebox · 06-15-2021, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ravo

We chatted about this a year ago, and you thought that was illegal, no? We already did this for adult - remember getadultemails.com?

I remember that, the announcement was barely a year ago, didn't take off?

ruff · 06-15-2021, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Furf

The link to the plugin is https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/tidio-live-chat/

it's a free plugin which can be upgraded in multiple ways depending on what you want.

It works in multiple ways.

1. You can access it through your wp-admin panel
2. You can download a desktop app for Windows
3. You can use a mobile app for Android and IOS

Thanks, what is interesting is that this is not listed on the US wordpress.org/plugins. I wonder why, do devs have the option for their market?

Fenris Wolf · 06-15-2021, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Furf

The link to the plugin is https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/tidio-live-chat/

it's a free plugin which can be upgraded in multiple ways depending on what you want.

It works in multiple ways.

1. You can access it through your wp-admin panel
2. You can download a desktop app for Windows
3. You can use a mobile app for Android and IOS

Thank you.

INever · 06-16-2021, 08:22 AM

How about an email subscribe widget.

Surfer fills in their email address, presses send. Ping.

They've now sent an email to an inbox that can reply back with an autoresponder, and is captured for later.

Shareware code that does this?

pornguy · 06-16-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Double opt in isn't a requirement for adult spam any more?

That and so much more. But Mainstream spam. No problem.

baddog · 06-16-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

That and so much more. But Mainstream spam. No problem.

I was trying to figure out why someone that runs an adult email program thinks that this is cool when he should know the rules.

06-14-2021, 10:22 AM	#1
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 72,989	Mainstream marketing is amazing Being sa I run YNOT Mail and also our CRM platform YNOT Market, I find mainstream marketing amazing. These mainstream companies do it right. One company... I saw an ad on TV, vistied their website, and exactly half an hour after I visited their website they sent me an email - although I never gave them my email address. Another company - a bike company - I visit their website often. Exactly half an hour after I visted their site they sent me an email asking "Did you see anything you like"? Adult needs to do this. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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06-14-2021, 11:30 AM	#2
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,017	https://getemails.com is one of the NoCRM providers that connects the browser pixel to your email address. Would be cost prohibitive to do this with most adult products. I personally wouldn't send an unsolicitied adult email without the user opting in. But you are right, the tools available to mainstream businesses are amazing

06-15-2021, 10:02 AM	#16
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Double opt in isn't a requirement for adult spam any more?

06-16-2021, 08:22 AM	#33
INever Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .......in a niche, in orbit...... Posts: 3,498	How about an email subscribe widget. Surfer fills in their email address, presses send. Ping. They've now sent an email to an inbox that can reply back with an autoresponder, and is captured for later. Shareware code that does this? __________________ I love Camdough