Does anyone do actual programming/coding over 40 hours per week? - GoFuckYourself.com

Tube Ace · 09-30-2021, 03:06 PM

Question for the programmers... How many hours do you code (PHP/Python/JS/JAVA/C# etc..) per day on a consistent basis?

I've done a little bit of research, and it seems that the "magic number" seems to be about 4 hours per day. That's the minimum I strive to complete per day which really doesn't sound like that much.

Less cognitively demanding tasks such as video editing, graphic design, HTML pages, moving files around, hosting/WordPress installs and setup, I can do on the computer for 8-12 hours per day without much difficulty. I've played internet poker for 20+ hours per day, but often struggle to churn out that 4 hour minimum of coding..

Some days I wish I pushed myself so hard that I fell asleep at the keyword like Bill Gates did when they were first starting Microsoft. When I first started learning PHP coding in 2003, I think I was coding about 6-8 hours per day, every day. Is this 4 hours per day just 40% of our potential? Have I lost the hunger?

Can anybody proudly post their time logging app screenshots (Rescue Time/ Screen Time) of consistently working over 40 hours per week in their coding IDE?

fuzebox · 09-30-2021, 03:40 PM

Hell naw. Most time is spent thinking, planning, research, trial and error, testing, trying to figure out how to accomplish something. Do you mean 4-8 hours of typing actual code on the keyboard?

Tube Ace · 09-30-2021, 04:01 PM

Total time sitting at desk thinking, planning, typing etc. Minus the time going through Spotify/music playlists, checking email, checking GFY, browsing youtube..

I think a common industry joke is most time coding is spent thinking of what to name variables.

Sly · 09-30-2021, 04:02 PM

4 is the number you'll see often regarding creative work.

AmeliaG · 09-30-2021, 04:39 PM

If your graphic design is not cognitively demanding, you should outsource your graphic design because graphic design is not what you are doing.

Tube Ace · 09-30-2021, 04:54 PM

I think lack of motivation is a huge factor with getting in the hours. Programming can be so seemingly tedious at times. Sometimes taking an entire day to solve an issue that represents 0.01% of an app can make it seem like your efforts are futile. Sometimes I wish I had a job doing manual labor like brick laying because if I work for 8 hours on a job site, at least at the end of the day I'll have a wall to show for it.

fuzebox · 09-30-2021, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Total time sitting at desk thinking, planning, typing etc. Minus the time going through Spotify/music playlists, checking email, checking GFY, browsing youtube..

I think a common industry joke is most time coding is spent thinking of what to name variables.

Oh. The goal for me is 0 then

Tube Ace · 09-30-2021, 05:31 PM

^ I appreciate the honesty

The Porn Nerd · 09-30-2021, 07:42 PM

The answer is 42.
The answer is always 42.

Thanks for all the fish.

InfoGuy · 09-30-2021, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Some days I wish I pushed myself so hard that I fell asleep at the keyword like Bill Gates did when they were first starting Microsoft.

You're almost there.

Publisher Bucks · 10-01-2021, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

The answer is 42.
The answer is always 42.

Thanks for all the fish.

So long, and thanks for all the code

Paul&John · 10-01-2021, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

I think lack of motivation is a huge factor with getting in the hours. Programming can be so seemingly tedious at times. Sometimes taking an entire day to solve an issue that represents 0.01% of an app can make it seem like your efforts are futile. Sometimes I wish I had a job doing manual labor like brick laying because if I work for 8 hours on a job site, at least at the end of the day I'll have a wall to show for it.

The bold parts are so fucking true

Klen · 10-01-2021, 04:14 AM

I dont see why time spend on it is relevant - if there is matter which need to be solved, i will work on it till it's solved regardless how much time is needed. Coding just to fill some quota is kind a unproductive.

CurrentlySober · 10-01-2021, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If your graphic design is not cognitively demanding, you should outsource your graphic design because graphic design is not what you are doing.

Tube Ace · 10-01-2021, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If your graphic design is not cognitively demanding, you should outsource your graphic design because graphic design is not what you are doing.

I don't require graphic design that often, so I feel I can finish the job myself as quickly as I can find someone to do it and explain what I want done. I should probably outsource my domestic work such as grocery shopping, cooking and cleaning to a nice Mexican lady (I'm currently living in Mexico for a few months).

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Originally Posted by InfoGuy

You're almost there.

Haha I meant fall asleep at the keyboard.

Tube Ace · 10-01-2021, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

I think lack of motivation is a huge factor with getting in the hours. Programming can be so seemingly tedious at times. Sometimes taking an entire day to solve an issue that represents 0.01% of an app can make it seem like your efforts are futile. Sometimes I wish I had a job doing manual labor like brick laying because if I work for 8 hours on a job site, at least at the end of the day I'll have a wall to show for it.

Here's an example.. I'm my last Tube Ace update I added a feature for truncating long descriptions of videos that are of a certain length with a 'Read More/Less' toggle button. First, I had to test various code examples I found on stackoverflow and other coding blogs. I ended up going with the pure JS solution found here: https://www.w3schools.com/howto/howto_js_read_more.asp

Then, integrate the option in the plugin:

Second, I had to add the customization options of the "Read More/Less" button in the Tube Ace Play theme customizer.

Live example: https://demo.tubeace.com/cute-blonde...s-and-cumming/

In total, it took about 6 hours, over two days to add such a seemingly trivial feature.

cwd · 10-01-2021, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Sometimes I wish I had a job doing manual labor like brick laying because if I work for 8 hours on a job site, at least at the end of the day I'll have a wall to show for it.

Same here!

CurrentlySober · 10-01-2021, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

Sometimes I wish I had a job doing manual labor like brick laying because if I work for 8 hours on a job site, at least at the end of the day I'll have a wall to show for it.

But would it be YOUR wall, or would it forever belong to someone else?

Tube Ace · 10-01-2021, 08:14 AM

A brick wall could last for hundreds or even thousands of years. We're lucky if people are still using our software for more than 5 years.

plsureking · 10-01-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Hell naw. Most time is spent thinking, planning, research, trial and error, testing, trying to figure out how to accomplish something.

yea the real profit is in the planning and selling.

i'll code 15 to 18 hours a day, for 1 to 5 weeks, if i'm building something. i'm usually not building something tho.

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Tube Ace · 10-01-2021, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

yea the real profit is in the planning and selling.

i'll code 15 to 18 hours a day, for 1 to 5 weeks, if i'm building something. i'm usually not building something tho.

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My biggest mistake with Tube Ace was selling a lifetime license. I should have only offered yearly updates. The amount of people I have given hours and hours of support to over many years for only a one time payment of $79 is obscene.

Klen · 10-01-2021, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

My biggest mistake with Tube Ace was selling a lifetime license. I should have only offered yearly updates. The amount of people I have given hours and hours of support to over many years for only a one time payment of $79 is obscene.

I never asked you for any support

k0nr4d · 10-01-2021, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tube Ace

My biggest mistake with Tube Ace was selling a lifetime license. I should have only offered yearly updates. The amount of people I have given hours and hours of support to over many years for only a one time payment of $79 is obscene.

If it's any consolation, you're not alone

marcop · 10-01-2021, 06:46 PM

When I was a programmer, back in the day--COBOL, Natural, DB2, CICS, IMS, etc--the only time I coded anything like 8 hours/day was when I worked at a software company cranking code--a job I hated. Working as a contract programmer at large corporations (coz my experience was with big IBM iron) I coded maybe 4 hours a day tops. And I was fast and good, and often got work done way before deadlines, so had time to goof off.

The last assignment I did, my boss estimated it would take 40 hours to complete. I had it done in 1.5 hours, fully tested, and then quit on the spot as I'd done all I wanted to as a programmer. I'd already been shooting porn on weekends making more than I was making as a programmer, so was ready to pursue a lucrative career in the adult entertainment industry.

Tube Ace · 10-02-2021, 07:00 AM

Good input from fellow programmers so far. I feel a lot better about myself now.

Colmike9 · 10-02-2021, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop

When I was a programmer, back in the day--COBOL, Natural, DB2, CICS, IMS, etc--the only time I coded anything like 8 hours/day was when I worked at a software company cranking code--a job I hated. Working as a contract programmer at large corporations (coz my experience was with big IBM iron) I coded maybe 4 hours a day tops. And I was fast and good, and often got work done way before deadlines, so had time to goof off.

The last assignment I did, my boss estimated it would take 40 hours to complete. I had it done in 1.5 hours, fully tested, and then quit on the spot as I'd done all I wanted to as a programmer. I'd already been shooting porn on weekends making more than I was making as a programmer, so was ready to pursue a lucrative career in the adult entertainment industry.

Donatos corporate office wanted me to do full stack web development and COBOL for them at 12 hrs/day 5 days/week, ...and it was 37k AFTER overtime pay. I didn't accept the offer lol.

Tube Ace · 10-02-2021, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen

I never asked you for any support

Thank you so much. You're the ideal customer!

plsureking · 10-02-2021, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop

I'd already been shooting porn on weekends making more than I was making as a programmer, so was ready to pursue a lucrative career in the adult entertainment industry.

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pornlytics · 10-02-2021, 07:25 PM

I try to code 40 hours a week but no more than 6 hours a day and I usually take a small break after 3 hours of coding, for me coding is like sex is all about the rhythm

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Tube Ace · 10-03-2021, 09:56 AM

I guess I will pass judgement to the kids like this:

k0nr4d · 10-03-2021, 10:30 AM

marcop · 10-07-2021, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike9

Donatos corporate office wanted me to do full stack web development and COBOL for them at 12 hrs/day 5 days/week, ...and it was 37k AFTER overtime pay. I didn't accept the offer lol.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

My last rate as a COBOL/DB2 (etc.) contract programmer was $85/hour (in 2002).

Colmike9 · 10-07-2021, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

My last rate as a COBOL/DB2 (etc.) contract programmer was $85/hour (in 2002).

Yeah, the pay was stupid low. I think I asked people on here about it and I told them that I'm not touching it for less than $60/hr. At the time, all of the stores still used really old computers with amber/black monitors for the POS.

It was 4 weeks office, one week on call type of schedule.

Why · 10-15-2021, 10:15 AM

its not about the hours you spend, its about the value you add.

you will get brain fog and cognitive decline after being IN the IDE for hours, but honestly i don't know a single programmer that is only in the IDE, most are doing research, reading docs, reading specs, etc.

forcing yourself to work more has lots of detrimental effects, sometimes the best step forward is a step backwards.

if you are a one man team, you are not only a programmer either. so i think the question is flawed. it seems to me that you are wearing many hats graphics, video editing, etc are not developer tasks. thus if you are doing all those roles, there is no way to spend so much time on coding when all the other parts needs attention as well.

focus on your core competency and outsource the rest, you will live a much happier life.

09-30-2021, 03:06 PM	#1
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	Does anyone do actual programming/coding over 40 hours per week? Question for the programmers... How many hours do you code (PHP/Python/JS/JAVA/C# etc..) per day on a consistent basis? I've done a little bit of research, and it seems that the "magic number" seems to be about 4 hours per day. That's the minimum I strive to complete per day which really doesn't sound like that much. Less cognitively demanding tasks such as video editing, graphic design, HTML pages, moving files around, hosting/WordPress installs and setup, I can do on the computer for 8-12 hours per day without much difficulty. I've played internet poker for 20+ hours per day, but often struggle to churn out that 4 hour minimum of coding.. Some days I wish I pushed myself so hard that I fell asleep at the keyword like Bill Gates did when they were first starting Microsoft. When I first started learning PHP coding in 2003, I think I was coding about 6-8 hours per day, every day. Is this 4 hours per day just 40% of our potential? Have I lost the hunger? Can anybody proudly post their time logging app screenshots (Rescue Time/ Screen Time) of consistently working over 40 hours per week in their coding IDE?

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09-30-2021, 03:40 PM	#2
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,010	Hell naw. Most time is spent thinking, planning, research, trial and error, testing, trying to figure out how to accomplish something. Do you mean 4-8 hours of typing actual code on the keyboard?

09-30-2021, 04:01 PM	#3
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	Total time sitting at desk thinking, planning, typing etc. Minus the time going through Spotify/music playlists, checking email, checking GFY, browsing youtube.. I think a common industry joke is most time coding is spent thinking of what to name variables.

09-30-2021, 04:54 PM	#6
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	I think lack of motivation is a huge factor with getting in the hours. Programming can be so seemingly tedious at times. Sometimes taking an entire day to solve an issue that represents 0.01% of an app can make it seem like your efforts are futile. Sometimes I wish I had a job doing manual labor like brick laying because if I work for 8 hours on a job site, at least at the end of the day I'll have a wall to show for it.

09-30-2021, 05:31 PM	#8
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	^ I appreciate the honesty

10-01-2021, 04:14 AM	#13
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I dont see why time spend on it is relevant - if there is matter which need to be solved, i will work on it till it's solved regardless how much time is needed. Coding just to fill some quota is kind a unproductive.

10-01-2021, 08:14 AM	#19
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	A brick wall could last for hundreds or even thousands of years. We're lucky if people are still using our software for more than 5 years.

10-01-2021, 06:46 PM	#24
marcop Content Producer Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,143	When I was a programmer, back in the day--COBOL, Natural, DB2, CICS, IMS, etc--the only time I coded anything like 8 hours/day was when I worked at a software company cranking code--a job I hated. Working as a contract programmer at large corporations (coz my experience was with big IBM iron) I coded maybe 4 hours a day tops. And I was fast and good, and often got work done way before deadlines, so had time to goof off. The last assignment I did, my boss estimated it would take 40 hours to complete. I had it done in 1.5 hours, fully tested, and then quit on the spot as I'd done all I wanted to as a programmer. I'd already been shooting porn on weekends making more than I was making as a programmer, so was ready to pursue a lucrative career in the adult entertainment industry.

10-02-2021, 07:00 AM	#25
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	Good input from fellow programmers so far. I feel a lot better about myself now.

10-02-2021, 07:25 PM	#29
pornlytics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 29	I try to code 40 hours a week but no more than 6 hours a day and I usually take a small break after 3 hours of coding, for me coding is like sex is all about the rhythm .

10-03-2021, 09:56 AM	#30
Tube Ace So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: with your dream girl Posts: 4,941	I guess I will pass judgement to the kids like this:

10-15-2021, 10:15 AM	#34
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	its not about the hours you spend, its about the value you add. you will get brain fog and cognitive decline after being IN the IDE for hours, but honestly i don't know a single programmer that is only in the IDE, most are doing research, reading docs, reading specs, etc. forcing yourself to work more has lots of detrimental effects, sometimes the best step forward is a step backwards. if you are a one man team, you are not only a programmer either. so i think the question is flawed. it seems to me that you are wearing many hats graphics, video editing, etc are not developer tasks. thus if you are doing all those roles, there is no way to spend so much time on coding when all the other parts needs attention as well. focus on your core competency and outsource the rest, you will live a much happier life.