Can google detect owner of domain name then penalize you - GoFuckYourself.com

lakerslive · 03-07-2022, 10:59 AM

I've looked around for this answer but cannot quiet a clear yes or no answer in the forum and on the search engine

1. So, i buy an domain with Domain authority, i put website on it and link it back to my main domain.

Can google see this as bad?

or

Shuold I do A B C link trade?

youradultporn · 03-07-2022, 11:06 AM

How do you connect? Do you put a redirect on the domain or does the domain just have a link to the main domain? I am now testing the option of setting a redirect to the main domain and so far everything is in order. But, perhaps, there may be consequences if a domain was purchased that is under sanctions

w4mmaps · 03-07-2022, 11:10 AM

Well considering it typically takes dozens to hundreds of links for ranking, I wouldn't bother with that method simply because it's a lot of work for 1 single link. Google cannot magically detect who owns the domains, unless you tell them, and even then I am confident google isn't basing their algorithms on who is behind domains, but rather the dynamics of the sites and linking themselves.

What you are saying is perfectly safe, but 1 link in this manner isn't gonna do much. You can do it tho if you want.

digitalfantasies · 03-07-2022, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive

I've looked around for this answer but cannot quiet a clear yes or no answer in the forum and on the search engine

1. So, i buy an domain with Domain authority, i put website on it and link it back to my main domain.

Can google see this as bad?

or

Shuold I do A B C link trade?

Many will tell you otherwise But Yes I am 100 percent sure of it. have had networks banned/dropped/penalized whatever.
Building new sites with the same whois info ranked badly.
Build ding new sites with backlinks from the old network ranked badly
Building new sites with different/private whois info and no connection to the old network ranked normally

Then we got the same shit happening again even though we thought we had a clean link profile and whois thing sorted out.
I then discovered that all new sites that used the same affiliate code in links ranked badly.
We contacted programs and asked for additional accounts/affiliate codes. And new blogs with fresh affiliate codes ranked normally again.

I'm now so paranoid that I don't visit my blogs with chrome or log in to my websites on any device where google in a way can spy on me. I don't use search console, I don't use google analytics, and so far everything is going well, besides the usual google algorithm change ass raping

I know many will dispute this and even google themselves denies some of this or is being vague about it. And it might all be a coincidence.
But I'm positive that they use everything in their power to figure out every detail. And these algorithms are way smarter than the average GFY user

digitalfantasies · 03-07-2022, 11:29 AM

And im not talking about a penalty that removes you from serp, I'm talking a difference between top 5 search ranking and getting stuck on second page

ENDave · 03-07-2022, 11:31 AM

There's ways around what you're asking. I recommend doing some research in some "PBN" (Private Blog Networks) groups as those tactics are what can help you. There are also numerous services & solutions available. You can still hide/spoof your footprint nowdays. Big G does make things harder but that's what makes things fun when you run your own case studies.
Any questions hit me up & good luck

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive

I've looked around for this answer but cannot quiet a clear yes or no answer in the forum and on the search engine

1. So, i buy an domain with Domain authority, i put website on it and link it back to my main domain.

Can google see this as bad?

or

Shuold I do A B C link trade?

lakerslive · 03-07-2022, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENDave

There's ways around what you're asking. I recommend doing some research in some "PBN" (Private Blog Networks) groups as those tactics are what can help you. There are also numerous services & solutions available. You can still hide/spoof your footprint nowdays. Big G does make things harder but that's what makes things fun when you run your own case studies.
Any questions hit me up & good luck

Ok thanks everyone.

It seems the EASIEST less headache option is A-B-C trade..
MY IP address will be recorded on google search console EVEN IF i use different webmaster account
MY IP address will be recorded on google analytics EVEN IF i use different analytics account

its going to be crazy.. ok i think i've made up my mind.

NALEM · 03-07-2022, 11:56 AM

(Copied from our notes. Original source unknown.)

How To Not Create PBN Footprints...

Don’t use the same browser (like Google Chrome) to update and manage all your PBN sites. Use Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and other browsers too.

Use a VPN to mask your IP address. Keep changing the VPN location while handling different blogs.

Use different IP hosting for your PBN. For example, use a mix of A, B, and C class hosting.

Register your PBN blogs with unique Start of Authority (SOA) email addresses. SOA email is the one that you give while registering with your hosting company. The same SOA for all the blogs in your PBN will confirm singular ownership.

Don’t just use @gmail.com or @yahoo.com email addresses. Use some [email protected] types emails too.

Don’t host your PBN blogs on IP addresses and host servers that have a lot of spammy or deindexed sites. Google will quickly sniff out the connection that way.

Don’t register all your domain names at the same time. It will also be a clear giveaway. Make sure you maintain intervals between the time of registering these domains.

Host your PBN blogs on servers and data centers in different countries.

Don’t blatantly block all bots and crawlers. Blocking bots is important to not let your competitors trace and track your PBN blogs. But if you block all the bots on all your PBN blogs, it will raise suspicion in Google’s eyes too. Keep the blocking limited to the bare essentials.

If you are using Google Analytics on your PBN blogs, make sure they have different tracking IDs. Same tracking IDs will help Google trace all the sites in your network to you.

Applying these tips will help ensure that you did not create obvious footprints, and therefore you should be safe from Google’s penalties.

lakerslive · 03-07-2022, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM

(Copied from our notes. Original source unknown.)

How To Not Create PBN Footprints...

Don’t use the same browser (like Google Chrome) to update and manage all your PBN sites. Use Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and other browsers too.

Use a VPN to mask your IP address. Keep changing the VPN location while handling different blogs.

Use different IP hosting for your PBN. For example, use a mix of A, B, and C class hosting.

Register your PBN blogs with unique Start of Authority (SOA) email addresses. SOA email is the one that you give while registering with your hosting company. The same SOA for all the blogs in your PBN will confirm singular ownership.

Don’t just use @gmail.com or @yahoo.com email addresses. Use some [email protected] types emails too.

Don’t host your PBN blogs on IP addresses and host servers that have a lot of spammy or deindexed sites. Google will quickly sniff out the connection that way.

Don’t register all your domain names at the same time. It will also be a clear giveaway. Make sure you maintain intervals between the time of registering these domains.

Host your PBN blogs on servers and data centers in different countries.

Don’t blatantly block all bots and crawlers. Blocking bots is important to not let your competitors trace and track your PBN blogs. But if you block all the bots on all your PBN blogs, it will raise suspicion in Google’s eyes too. Keep the blocking limited to the bare essentials.

If you are using Google Analytics on your PBN blogs, make sure they have different tracking IDs. Same tracking IDs will help Google trace all the sites in your network to you.

Applying these tips will help ensure that you did not create obvious footprints, and therefore you should be safe from Google’s penalties.

yea man, thats starting to sound crazy hardcore lol.. i think i will just scrape businesses in same industry as mine and email them individually..

lakerslive · 03-07-2022, 01:38 PM

I feel like,

this maybe the easiest if i continue with this route

1. Buy / Transfer purchase aged domain under new registrar.. change name of owner and email?
2. Get hosted in different state or IP address
3. DO NOT submit to google search console
4. DO NOT add analytics
5** can i use same script/template? << does google follow HTML and CSS structure too??
Any loopholes?

w4mmaps · 03-07-2022, 02:47 PM

Just do private whois if you are concerned. easy as pie

lakerslive · 03-07-2022, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w4mmaps

Just do private whois if you are concerned. easy as pie

godaddy comes with private who is

zerovic · 03-07-2022, 03:01 PM

Most likely not. In that case, all private domains, and hosts with domains with "REDACTED FOR PRIVACY" set as Registrant Name would be considered spam...

digitalfantasies · 03-07-2022, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic

Most likely not. In that case, all private domains, and hosts with domains with "REDACTED FOR PRIVACY" set as Registrant Name would be considered spam...

Well yes, when sexy matt cutts back in the days ran things at google search he said that a private whois did/could make a site less trust worthy, that whois info should match info on a contact page and that google could see through the privacy any way.

But after gdpr in Europe google backed down on that statement
Still don't trust them

money biz · 03-07-2022, 04:24 PM

work around for ip issue is using cloudflare.

trevesty · 03-08-2022, 03:58 AM

IMO, you shouldn't just use one strategy for your backlink profile. For example, don't just buy blog posts - or don't just build a private PBN. You need it all - forum posts, blog posts, sitewide Wordpress sidebar links with wonky anchor text, header links, footer links, social media links.. on and on and on we go.

Just like with anything in business, if there's a single point of failure, you're more likely to have a bad time.

Whois / IP and all that is mostly just hysteria from "SEO gurus".

bns666 · 03-08-2022, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM

(Copied from our notes. Original source unknown.)

How To Not Create PBN Footprints...

Don’t use the same browser (like Google Chrome) to update and manage all your PBN sites. Use Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and other browsers too.

Use a VPN to mask your IP address. Keep changing the VPN location while handling different blogs.

Use different IP hosting for your PBN. For example, use a mix of A, B, and C class hosting.

Register your PBN blogs with unique Start of Authority (SOA) email addresses. SOA email is the one that you give while registering with your hosting company. The same SOA for all the blogs in your PBN will confirm singular ownership.

Don’t just use @gmail.com or @yahoo.com email addresses. Use some [email protected] types emails too.

Don’t host your PBN blogs on IP addresses and host servers that have a lot of spammy or deindexed sites. Google will quickly sniff out the connection that way.

Don’t register all your domain names at the same time. It will also be a clear giveaway. Make sure you maintain intervals between the time of registering these domains.

Host your PBN blogs on servers and data centers in different countries.

Don’t blatantly block all bots and crawlers. Blocking bots is important to not let your competitors trace and track your PBN blogs. But if you block all the bots on all your PBN blogs, it will raise suspicion in Google’s eyes too. Keep the blocking limited to the bare essentials.

If you are using Google Analytics on your PBN blogs, make sure they have different tracking IDs. Same tracking IDs will help Google trace all the sites in your network to you.

Applying these tips will help ensure that you did not create obvious footprints, and therefore you should be safe from Google’s penalties.

no offense, but if you have to all that to rank, what kind of shady shit sites are in question?

what about good old quality content, optimized site and links?

digitalfantasies · 03-08-2022, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bns666

no offense, but if you have to all that to rank, what kind of shady shit sites are in question?

what about good old quality content, optimized site and links?

Just because someone has a blog network doesn't mean the sites are shit in quality or don't have unique content.

How do you get your links? if you buy them you are just as shady in googles eyes as someone who links his own sites.

If you don't buy links and all your backlinks are natural then I applaud you.
But that's not easy in porn.

bns666 · 03-08-2022, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

Just because someone has a blog network doesn't mean the sites are shit in quality or don't have unique content.

How do you get your links? if you buy them you are just as shady in googles eyes as someone who links his own sites.

If you don't buy links and all your backlinks are natural then I applaud you.
But that's not easy in porn.

that's all correct, but many of those tips on how to hide footprints while creating and maintaining pbn don't sound too reasonable if you have to rely on that to make sites rank.

Klen · 03-08-2022, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty

IMO, you shouldn't just use one strategy for your backlink profile. For example, don't just buy blog posts - or don't just build a private PBN. You need it all - forum posts, blog posts, sitewide Wordpress sidebar links with wonky anchor text, header links, footer links, social media links.. on and on and on we go.

Just like with anything in business, if there's a single point of failure, you're more likely to have a bad time.

Whois / IP and all that is mostly just hysteria from "SEO gurus".

Yep, IP/WHOIS these days definitely means nothing as almost everyone is using cloudflare which have thousands and thousand of websites, and same with whois, almost everyone using private whois, and even non-private whois does not contain same info as it used to do.

trevesty · 03-08-2022, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klen

Yep, IP/WHOIS these days definitely means nothing as almost everyone is using cloudflare which have thousands and thousand of websites, and same with whois, almost everyone using private whois, and even non-private whois does not contain same info as it used to do.

Careful. If you say that too much, all the "SEO gurus" on here with 10k / day total SE traffic are gonna lose their absolute minds.

trevesty · 03-08-2022, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

Just because someone has a blog network doesn't mean the sites are shit in quality or don't have unique content.

How do you get your links? if you buy them you are just as shady in googles eyes as someone who links his own sites.

If you don't buy links and all your backlinks are natural then I applaud you.
But that's not easy in porn.

He has a pretty good point, though. And in many cases, sites really are shit, especially compared to the competition. Just because the owner of the site disagrees doesn't mean they're right.

Tjeezers · 03-08-2022, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bns666

no offense, but if you have to all that to rank, what kind of shady shit sites are in question?

what about good old quality content, optimized site and links?

Yeah, indeed.

Fenris Wolf · 03-08-2022, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM

(Copied from our notes. Original source unknown.)

How To Not Create PBN Footprints...

Don’t use the same browser (like Google Chrome) to update and manage all your PBN sites. Use Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and other browsers too.

Use a VPN to mask your IP address. Keep changing the VPN location while handling different blogs.

Use different IP hosting for your PBN. For example, use a mix of A, B, and C class hosting.

Register your PBN blogs with unique Start of Authority (SOA) email addresses. SOA email is the one that you give while registering with your hosting company. The same SOA for all the blogs in your PBN will confirm singular ownership.

Don’t just use @gmail.com or @yahoo.com email addresses. Use some [email protected] types emails too.

Don’t host your PBN blogs on IP addresses and host servers that have a lot of spammy or deindexed sites. Google will quickly sniff out the connection that way.

Don’t register all your domain names at the same time. It will also be a clear giveaway. Make sure you maintain intervals between the time of registering these domains.

Host your PBN blogs on servers and data centers in different countries.

Don’t blatantly block all bots and crawlers. Blocking bots is important to not let your competitors trace and track your PBN blogs. But if you block all the bots on all your PBN blogs, it will raise suspicion in Google’s eyes too. Keep the blocking limited to the bare essentials.

If you are using Google Analytics on your PBN blogs, make sure they have different tracking IDs. Same tracking IDs will help Google trace all the sites in your network to you.

Applying these tips will help ensure that you did not create obvious footprints, and therefore you should be safe from Google’s penalties.

Thanks. 👍

sandman! · 03-08-2022, 05:57 PM

Also don’t forget to use a few different registration companies for your sites.

lakerslive · 03-09-2022, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

Also don’t forget to use a few different registration companies for your sites.

yes, some things are for certain I am sure. Different registrar, different hosting company and NOT even register on google analytics or search console.

I am doing this for my actual mainstream local business.

NALEM · 03-09-2022, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive

yes, some things are for certain I am sure. Different registrar, different hosting company and NOT even register on google analytics or search console.

I am doing this for my actual mainstream local business.

^^ This ^^

ENDave · 03-10-2022, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakerslive

Ok thanks everyone.

It seems the EASIEST less headache option is A-B-C trade..
MY IP address will be recorded on google search console EVEN IF i use different webmaster account
MY IP address will be recorded on google analytics EVEN IF i use different analytics account

its going to be crazy.. ok i think i've made up my mind.

Couple things, I recommend holding accounts with cloud providers such as Vultr, DigitalOcean & Linode to name a few. Google up their coupon codes for trials that could get you thru your first 60 days even. But use them to spin up either Linux or Windows containers for Remote Desktop. A couple of apt commands running Debian will have xrdp running or Windows and log right into a virtual desktop. Paste a Firefox install file from your local box and run with the devil. They even make it simple to fire up a 20 minute VPN if you need.

Two, may I ask what keeps you tied up with big g's analytics and webmaster tools etc? With all the open source platforms out there you can self host, you're in charge of your own data. I only ask because there's folks out there that think they "have" to use G's tools to rank really good but to be honest, I can't blame the mindset, but you can rank just fine without using G's. (Being that everything is at its worthiness).

PretjeNL · 02-20-2023, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

We contacted programs and asked for additional accounts/affiliate codes. And new blogs with fresh affiliate codes ranked normally again.

You also asked CB for additional accounts/affiliate codes?

I did, but they said that was not possible.

mrmister · 02-20-2023, 06:35 PM

If penalising sites with dodgy links was possible wouldn't you be able to do it to your competitors?

I always thought Google ignored such links

Also check the backlink profile of some of the guys on page 1 for high keyword volume terms. It's mainly a shitload of high DA sites and then the rest shit

Adult is like the wild west when it comes to SEO. I know a guy with 20 gay blogs who interlinks them all and then links to his cam sites and they rank quite well

03-07-2022, 10:59 AM	#1
lakerslive Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 929	Can google detect owner of domain name then penalize you I've looked around for this answer but cannot quiet a clear yes or no answer in the forum and on the search engine 1. So, i buy an domain with Domain authority, i put website on it and link it back to my main domain. Can google see this as bad? or Shuold I do A B C link trade?

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mrmister Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,071	If penalising sites with dodgy links was possible wouldn't you be able to do it to your competitors? I always thought Google ignored such links Also check the backlink profile of some of the guys on page 1 for high keyword volume terms. It's mainly a shitload of high DA sites and then the rest shit Adult is like the wild west when it comes to SEO. I know a guy with 20 gay blogs who interlinks them all and then links to his cam sites and they rank quite well __________________ Looking for a link exchange

03-07-2022, 11:06 AM	#2
youradultporn Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 55	How do you connect? Do you put a redirect on the domain or does the domain just have a link to the main domain? I am now testing the option of setting a redirect to the main domain and so far everything is in order. But, perhaps, there may be consequences if a domain was purchased that is under sanctions

03-07-2022, 11:10 AM	#3
w4mmaps Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 248	Well considering it typically takes dozens to hundreds of links for ranking, I wouldn't bother with that method simply because it's a lot of work for 1 single link. Google cannot magically detect who owns the domains, unless you tell them, and even then I am confident google isn't basing their algorithms on who is behind domains, but rather the dynamics of the sites and linking themselves. What you are saying is perfectly safe, but 1 link in this manner isn't gonna do much. You can do it tho if you want.

03-07-2022, 11:56 AM	#8
NALEM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Where ever Delta flies Posts: 3,134	(Copied from our notes. Original source unknown.) How To Not Create PBN Footprints... Don’t use the same browser (like Google Chrome) to update and manage all your PBN sites. Use Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and other browsers too. Use a VPN to mask your IP address. Keep changing the VPN location while handling different blogs. Use different IP hosting for your PBN. For example, use a mix of A, B, and C class hosting. Register your PBN blogs with unique Start of Authority (SOA) email addresses. SOA email is the one that you give while registering with your hosting company. The same SOA for all the blogs in your PBN will confirm singular ownership. Don’t just use @gmail.com or @yahoo.com email addresses. Use some [email protected] types emails too. Don’t host your PBN blogs on IP addresses and host servers that have a lot of spammy or deindexed sites. Google will quickly sniff out the connection that way. Don’t register all your domain names at the same time. It will also be a clear giveaway. Make sure you maintain intervals between the time of registering these domains. Host your PBN blogs on servers and data centers in different countries. Don’t blatantly block all bots and crawlers. Blocking bots is important to not let your competitors trace and track your PBN blogs. But if you block all the bots on all your PBN blogs, it will raise suspicion in Google’s eyes too. Keep the blocking limited to the bare essentials. If you are using Google Analytics on your PBN blogs, make sure they have different tracking IDs. Same tracking IDs will help Google trace all the sites in your network to you. Applying these tips will help ensure that you did not create obvious footprints, and therefore you should be safe from Google’s penalties.

03-07-2022, 01:38 PM	#10
lakerslive Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 929	I feel like, this maybe the easiest if i continue with this route 1. Buy / Transfer purchase aged domain under new registrar.. change name of owner and email? 2. Get hosted in different state or IP address 3. DO NOT submit to google search console 4. DO NOT add analytics 5** can i use same script/template? << does google follow HTML and CSS structure too?? Any loopholes?

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w4mmaps Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 248	Just do private whois if you are concerned. easy as pie

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zerovic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,084	Most likely not. In that case, all private domains, and hosts with domains with "REDACTED FOR PRIVACY" set as Registrant Name would be considered spam...

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money biz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 951	work around for ip issue is using cloudflare.

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trevesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 3,802	IMO, you shouldn't just use one strategy for your backlink profile. For example, don't just buy blog posts - or don't just build a private PBN. You need it all - forum posts, blog posts, sitewide Wordpress sidebar links with wonky anchor text, header links, footer links, social media links.. on and on and on we go. Just like with anything in business, if there's a single point of failure, you're more likely to have a bad time. Whois / IP and all that is mostly just hysteria from "SEO gurus".