Tech Anti-Piracy Software: XVid Autograph. Anyone using it? - GoFuckYourself.com

wasteland · 06-01-2022, 02:41 PM

I've been communicating with them and it looks promising. Here is the description of what it does:

"Embedding unique digital user DNA into each video copy.
Every time your customer downloads or streams a film, Xvid AutoGraph automatically embeds a unique customer ID tag as digital DNA into the delivered video. Each copy can then always be traced back to its original recipient revealing any illegal uploader with pin-point accuracy. Digital DNA, integrated on the fly."

Comments on this greatly appreciated before i dive into it with test integration.

Their site: https://autograph.xvid.com/

Coybh · 06-01-2022, 06:56 PM

Fingerprinting is pretty standard in the copyright protection business, the majority of other solutions work similarly.

SpicyM · 06-10-2022, 08:32 AM

It's interesting but I wonder what they mean by "obscene" and "indecent" in their terms.

Quote:

Your content, and the use of your content by us in accordance with these terms and conditions, must not:

- be libellous or maliciously false;
- be obscene or indecent;

But it looks like AmateurAllure use them.

Found some thieves debating it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comm..._watermarking/

What are their pricing?

celandina · 06-11-2022, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasteland

I've been communicating with them and it looks promising. Here is the description of what it does:

"Embedding unique digital user DNA into each video copy.
Every time your customer downloads or streams a film, Xvid AutoGraph automatically embeds a unique customer ID tag as digital DNA into the delivered video. Each copy can then always be traced back to its original recipient revealing any illegal uploader with pin-point accuracy. Digital DNA, integrated on the fly."

Comments on this greatly appreciated before i dive into it with test integration.

Their site: https://autograph.xvid.com/

I am interested once this is actually tested

Keep us posted

andy erotic · 06-11-2022, 06:49 AM

> A secure watermark embedded into every frame of the video which cannot be seen and cannot be removed.

Welcome to 1999. Apply a slight blur to the frame and ba-dah-boom, watermark gone. Or, train a neural network to identify this watermark and replace it with colour/intensity from nearby pixels. Maybe even opencv can process each frame.

So... sign up to a website using two different usernames. Download the same video, do a diff on these two videos and find what they are then reverse engineer the differences. It may even be possible to compare two frames of just one video and look for differences with a diff.

Level 1 would be applying this watermark in the same 'hidden' place on the frame, e.g. 10px from left, 10px from top whatever, level 2 would be randomising the position, level 3 would be admitting to client who asked for this that it isn't viable.

Very Best case scenario: you find your pirate. Yeah. Do you sue? They won't have any money, blood from a stone etc, so you probably just remove their account instead. So they sign up with a different IP and different payment details and round you go.

As each download for each user will have to be watermarked dynamically, you're going to need big servers and explain to your users why they can't download the video immediately. That's gonna piss off more genuine users who want the wank immediately imo.

There are almost an infinite amount of ways to bypass such "DNA" finger-printing security, but that's assuming your content isn't already available for free elsewhere.

"Obscene or indecent" coming from xvid is risible.

> As a web service with a RESTful API, Xvid AutoGraph is scalable and does fit all typical monetization models for online video content perfectly.
> Our SDK makes it easy to generate personalized links that direct your users to their personal, autographed download or video stream. We have example code for many popular web development languages.

Oh, what if one of your user's account's is hacked?...Running a brute force password attack on your sites then using the video downloads would be trivial.

SpicyM · 06-11-2022, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by andy erotic

> A secure watermark embedded into every frame of the video which cannot be seen and cannot be removed.

Welcome to 1999. Apply a slight blur to the frame and ba-dah-boom, watermark gone. Or, train a neural network to identify this watermark and replace it with colour/intensity from nearby pixels. Maybe even opencv can process each frame.

So... sign up to a website using two different usernames. Download the same video, do a diff on these two videos and find what they are then reverse engineer the differences. It may even be possible to compare two frames of just one video and look for differences with a diff.

Level 1 would be applying this watermark in the same 'hidden' place on the frame, e.g. 10px from left, 10px from top whatever, level 2 would be randomising the position, level 3 would be admitting to client who asked for this that it isn't viable.

Very Best case scenario: you find your pirate. Yeah. Do you sue? They won't have any money, blood from a stone etc, so you probably just remove their account instead. So they sign up with a different IP and different payment details and round you go.

As each download for each user will have to be watermarked dynamically, you're going to need big servers and explain to your users why they can't download the video immediately. That's gonna piss off more genuine users who want the wank immediately imo.

There are almost an infinite amount of ways to bypass such "DNA" finger-printing security, but that's assuming your content isn't already available for free elsewhere.

"Obscene or indecent" coming from xvid is risible.

> As a web service with a RESTful API, Xvid AutoGraph is scalable and does fit all typical monetization models for online video content perfectly.
> Our SDK makes it easy to generate personalized links that direct your users to their personal, autographed download or video stream. We have example code for many popular web development languages.

Oh, what if one of your user's account's is hacked?...Running a brute force password attack on your sites then using the video downloads would be trivial.

I have recently heard some worrying news that a house can still be invaded despite the door being locked. I now wonder why do people lock up their doors...

andy erotic · 06-11-2022, 08:41 AM

Ahh, the good old "stealing is the same as copying" argument!

SpicyM · 06-11-2022, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by andy erotic

Or, train a neural network to identify this watermark and replace it with colour/intensity from nearby pixels. Maybe even opencv can process each frame.

In case of our content, all of those large scale thefts are done with watermarks intact. And those are the good old visible static watermarks. The reason is simple: editing and re-rendering the hundreds of 20-minute 4k videos takes a shit ton of time while it also decreases the video quality.

But at least I can now imagine an average Russian thief "training his neural network" ...

06-01-2022, 02:41 PM	#1
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06-11-2022, 06:49 AM	#5
andy erotic Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 37	> A secure watermark embedded into every frame of the video which cannot be seen and cannot be removed. Welcome to 1999. Apply a slight blur to the frame and ba-dah-boom, watermark gone. Or, train a neural network to identify this watermark and replace it with colour/intensity from nearby pixels. Maybe even opencv can process each frame. So... sign up to a website using two different usernames. Download the same video, do a diff on these two videos and find what they are then reverse engineer the differences. It may even be possible to compare two frames of just one video and look for differences with a diff. Level 1 would be applying this watermark in the same 'hidden' place on the frame, e.g. 10px from left, 10px from top whatever, level 2 would be randomising the position, level 3 would be admitting to client who asked for this that it isn't viable. Very Best case scenario: you find your pirate. Yeah. Do you sue? They won't have any money, blood from a stone etc, so you probably just remove their account instead. So they sign up with a different IP and different payment details and round you go. As each download for each user will have to be watermarked dynamically, you're going to need big servers and explain to your users why they can't download the video immediately. That's gonna piss off more genuine users who want the wank immediately imo. There are almost an infinite amount of ways to bypass such "DNA" finger-printing security, but that's assuming your content isn't already available for free elsewhere. "Obscene or indecent" coming from xvid is risible. > As a web service with a RESTful API, Xvid AutoGraph is scalable and does fit all typical monetization models for online video content perfectly. > Our SDK makes it easy to generate personalized links that direct your users to their personal, autographed download or video stream. We have example code for many popular web development languages. Oh, what if one of your user's account's is hacked?...Running a brute force password attack on your sites then using the video downloads would be trivial.

06-11-2022, 08:41 AM	#7
andy erotic Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 37	Ahh, the good old "stealing is the same as copying" argument!