Steven2022

Hi all,

Lurker with no clue, so if you’re going to tell me to go fuck myself please be gentle.

I would love to set up a site like hookup hotshot, hoby buchanon etc. Film myself having rough dominant sex with pretty young girls. Here’s the thing - I’m a single rich guy living in LA, and if it never makes a dime I’d be fine with it. If it did make any money all the better.

So my question is, how would I go about doing this? Assume I’m pretty much indifferent to what it would cost, are there any rules of thumb for what I’d need to pay the talent? Best ways to get them? Are there people I could give the content to who could edit it, promote it, create the website, take care of billing etc? And would would it cost? Any other major costs I’m missing?

Again, if I am asking something ridiculous I do apologize. If someone here can help me make this dream a reality please ping me!

k0nr4d

Hit me up on skype mechbunnymedia or konrad/at/mechbunny.com. We can create the site for you and put you in touch with a reputable credit card biller, hook it up so it all works, and refer you to someone that can help you with the editing and someone that can help with promotion.

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CurrentlySober

yep, seconded as a good solution

Focus

💪🏾💪🏾 You'll be in good hands. GL

Steven2022

That's amazing! I'll absolutely hit you up now.

Given that I've never done this before, can anyone advise the best way to find talent, and a rough indication of what this whole crazy thing would cost?

romeo22

Welcome aboard. I can help you contact me

ladida

Lol. This pans out 100%

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DVTimes

You would need to make it clear to the models, what the content is going to be. As you could end up with a legal problem, if you hurt them. Not to mention, you may find you wake up to find an angry boyfriend holding a gun to your head.

Next you may find problems with hosting and payment if the sex is abusive.

If you plan on unprotected sex, then you will needs certs.

You would also be advised to have someone shoot the content. Putting a camera on a stand may just give you dull results.

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Steven2022

100%. I actually have quite a bit of experience with this sort of stuff in my personal life, so I would hope that if the models are into this sort of thing we'll be on the same page.

Agreed on the rest. I am actually interested to try a bunch of fixed cameras and also to try VR, I haven't seen too much VR content of this nature and I think it could lend itself quite nicely.

Any advice on the best way to find the models? I've looked at sexyjobs.com, and I know there are agencies though I've obviously never used any before. Any idea on more or less what reasonable prices are in the LA area? And may it be worthwhile flying them in / going to other countries?

Steven2022

My whole desire here to is understand what it would take to do something like this. I have the will and the money, and an ability to take a total loss on the endeavor without minding. So the thing that is stopping me is lack of knowledge and logistics. Perhaps I won't get either and it won't happen, but I'd really like to know!

DVTimes

Personally I would not bother with VR as too few have headsets, and those who do I suspect are 14 year olds playing computer games.

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gar

I had a dream like this too. No one helped me. With little funding I got my site up to 500k + visitors monthly I'm seeing some hope. Haha

Google is your best friend and they're free!

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DVTimes

The money is less relevant than the content.

However, the one advise to give anyone for free is to be an affiliate for at least six months promoting other paysites.

The reason being is it will give you an idea what converts for you and how best to promote your site. As well as making yourself a few dollars too.

The next bit of advise is get a good .com domain name for your paysite. I see many with rubbish domain names, and I suspect that having a good domain name will help. This is not just for paysites, but all types of business. For instance I cringe when I see on a van tomscarpartsclosetoyou.net rather than something like carparts.com. If your creative you can still get something decent.

Often people claim that decent names are taken, but I often can find in less than ten minutes something 100% better than what they have.

Now something else to consider is, affiliates.

CCBILL lets you set up affiliate system with ease.

The downside for me with ccbill is that years ago they had a nice system to log in and use. Then they had a new one, that to this day I cannot work out how to use. However, they do help you with online chat with ease.

If you go with ccbill many webmasters will be happy to promote your site, as all they need do is enter there password and account info, and 'bish bash bosh', its done. Unlike other systems that they have to enter all there info and mass about.

The key thing is NOT to rush into things. If you do, it will just end up being costly and making a lot of mistakes.

By the way, you will make mistakes, and everyone does. But try to make most of your mistakes by being an affiliate. It will teach you a lot.

If you plan on hosting, you will probably be best with a dedicated server.

One thing to note is that if you plan on shooting 4k films, these files are large. So you can fill a small dedicated server quickly.

Today we have two ways of selling porn.

1. Pay site - access to all your content.

2. Clips - Selling your films separately.

These are two options to consider.

Of course you can do both.

But I would also suggest be different. It is easy to copy others, but if you do something different, then you may find you have a section of the market to yourself.

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Steven2022

Amazing. Are you making your own content? Could I ask what your site is? I guess I’m in an advantageous position that I am happy to spend more money to have people help me with this. So even if I could do it myself for free with Google, I’d gladly pay someone to do that since I’m not fussed about generating a profit.

gar

I don't make my own content. I have few models uploading content on my site (sig).

I can understand people with money.

You can buy out existing site of your like and hire more people make fun out of it I guess.

But building things from scratch is my fun.

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Shy-Girls

This is essentially what I've done although not the same style as Hoby or HUHS. Learned enough about enough things to put it all together and then recruited some talent. Not sure I've done the best job of it but it is awfully fun all around.

Happy to chat. The site is shy-girls dot com

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ladida

If you had the money, you wouldn't be posting on this board for this. NHF.
It's just not the way "people with money" act.

It would go more in the line of
"1. call your lawyer"
"2. ask him to set it up for you and do the leg work and put out the bill"

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Steven2022

That’s amazing! Yes, i see how your site works and it’s great that you enjoy it. I’d love to chat, what’s the best way to get in touch? If you want email me yzic2022 at protonmail dot com

Steven2022

So cynical!

Sure, there are wealthy people who outsource everything to their lawyers. There are also wealthy people that made their money through entrepreneurship and enjoy the challenges of learning something new, applying and and excelling.

Also, believe it or not, I don’t have “a lawyer”. I have various lawyers I’ve used in the past, like the corporate one that helped me sell my company, real estate that helps me purchase properties, immigration for my various tax residencies. None of which would know how to hire an adult actress!

ladida

Ofc im cynical. You also use protonmail for official contact. Millionaire right thar.

Yea, if you had those you could easily ask them to refer you to another that has the proper knowledge to solve this issue for you.

As i said, this pans out 100%.

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fuzebox

Strongly disagree.

k0nr4d

Why on earth would anyone do that? I can understand like a billionaire doing that but if we're talking about what he wants to basically do as a hobby then that's hardly something he should outsource.

Why would using protonmail be a bad sign? I know plenty of very wealthy people that use it.

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dillonaire

I build HUHS site and came up with the concept for Bryan. Then get him his Evil Angel deal. But one thing that is hard to recreate is Bryan's passion and his freakiness. He is a work horse and did exactly what he was supposed to do and now has a great business.

If you want to do something similar email me [email protected]

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ladida

OK,
Because he would.
a) They have too much worth to mess anything up not to be protected by a lawyer that will take care of everything and prepare everything
b) Their time is just too expensive to waste it asking things on gfy rofl. Out of all the replies there will be like 2-3 people that can actually do this for you. A millionaire will waste time with fake trolls on gfy? Hau yes no.

Im not even talking billionaire level. People i think about have 0 posts on gfy, and for a valid reason. We're obviously talking different levels of "rich" if your "rich" actually posts still on gfy. Can you name 1 company owner that's worth something still posting on gfy? And from a protonmail :P
Because it is . Protonmail is actually mostly used by spammers.

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Steven2022

Sigh. I know I should just ignore you, but it's just too hard not to engage.

Point a - yes, I am a risk averse person. You can't rely on lawyers to manage risk like this, you have to do it yourself. Actually that's basically true of everything. Only the stupid rich rely on their lawyers and don't delve into understanding their undertakings. I know a few like this who have lost a LOT of money through theft and simple stupidity. It's known as the "agency problem" of letting someone with different incentives make decisions for you.

Point b - I see why you would think this. But it's part of the challenge that's fun. I have a few sugar babies that I've met through various websites, and it requires going through a bunch of bullshit profiles to find the right ones. It's not like I can just pay more and get what I want because I'll get a bunch of hardcore gold diggers which I don't want. So you put in the legwork and it's fun. And as much as I love the idea that I could just point someone at the problem and give them money, I don't know a person like this. The idea a lawyer could do it is laughable. I wouldn't trust my lawyer to book my vacation. I barely trust my PA to do it, she does the execution but the research etc I do because it won't get done right otherwise.

And of course I use protonmail. It's anonymous and encrypted. You expect me to use my real email address, are you nuts?

Finally I'm no billionaire. But I'm not a millionaire either, my net worth is in the tens of millions.

Anyway. I assume you want to be rich and as out of touch with reality as you imagine rich people to be. I'd just suggest to you that you probably won't get rich if you really think life works this way.

Steven2022

Absolutely fantastic, I've just emailed you.

gar

I thought Elon Musk is on twitter 24/7 xD wasting time?

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ladida

You should go with yandex next. It's even more anonimous. I hear it also bodes well with people when they get mailed from it.
I am not rich, will probably never be because i have no incentive to be. I have enough money and live exactly as i want to live. If i could write up to have it like this for the rest of my life i'd sign that up in no time. I do however work with enough rich people that i know how they operate. Gl with your website, let's see how that pans out. 100% now that you found the creator.
Yea, obviously multi million view audience is equivalent to finding business on gfy My god.

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