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adultinnovation · 01-31-2023, 09:19 AM

https://interestingengineering.com/i...ness-two-years

redwhiteandblue · 01-31-2023, 09:57 AM

I'm not sure that it's quite so clear cut as that.

xocrea · 01-31-2023, 12:49 PM

I don't believe that in a year or two, but surely AI will change the world of internet and it will be fast, it will hurt google.

fuzebox · 01-31-2023, 12:55 PM

Like most technologists, this person is missing what percentage of revenue is generated by boomers and luddites who are not going to change their habits anytime soon.

dUbster · 01-31-2023, 01:12 PM

Do you think google will make changes to keep up with AI?

LouiseLloyd · 01-31-2023, 02:12 PM

Get ready for identification verification measures to confirm ones identify and content online.

NakedWomenTime · 01-31-2023, 04:04 PM

What, the Google that's one of the world's leading companies in AI?

gar · 01-31-2023, 05:01 PM

And you think the world involve around you. Most AI stuffs only works in English language....

brassmonkey · 01-31-2023, 05:09 PM

you guys are really on this ai bullshit. rants need to be in the other section.

Mr Pheer · 01-31-2023, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gar

And you think the world involve around you. Most AI stuffs only works in English language....

You should try it when posting here.

CurrentlySober · 01-31-2023, 05:19 PM

i am already obsolete...

plsureking · 01-31-2023, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Like most technologists, this person is missing what percentage of revenue is generated by boomers and luddites who are not going to change their habits anytime soon.

i'm always amazed when i see an AOL email addy in the newsletter lists

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gar · 01-31-2023, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

You should try it when posting here.

I did

For those who want to use it in adult try here.
https://huggingface.co

Fenris Wolf · 01-31-2023, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gar

I did

For those who want to use it in adult try here.
https://huggingface.co

Yup, alot of custom models for those willing to take the time and dive deeper into AI. 👍

plsureking · 02-01-2023, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gar

I did

For those who want to use it in adult try here.
https://huggingface.co

this isn't my field, but i thought i'd take a look.

is there actual machine learning going on? doesn't AI learn and build its database specific to the application?

are people calling an API an AI?

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MetaCPA · 02-01-2023, 02:04 AM

I think the search engines will be relevant for a long time to come

lezinterracial · 02-01-2023, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaCPA

I think the search engines will be relevant for a long time to come

I agree. Doesn't ChatGPT cost money to use after so many searches?
The only way I see ChatGPT could be free is if advertisers were allowed to influence results.
Or, questions are sold to advertisers and used in targeted ads.

How long until politicians want to start influencing results?

zijlstravideo · 02-01-2023, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

is there actual machine learning going on? doesn't AI learn and build its database specific to the application?

are people calling an API an AI?

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I don't think there's any more machine learning going on once a user uploads their custom model to HuggingFaces...

Lol yeah, everything is called "artificial intelligence" these days. Thing is, it isn't intelligent. It just picks the best option based on weights.

And yes, in most cases, you would make your own data set and use any of the current existing, pre-trained models as a starter point.

For example with object detection, you feed some current model thousands of images of a cucumber and thousands of images of a dildo, as well as completely unrelated images, and then have the AI... Oops, I mean... have the code, predict the most likely answer.

You'll end up with a large database of floating numbers, which gives, for example, results like 70% cucumber and 30% chance the image features a dildo.

plsureking · 02-01-2023, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zijlstravideo

I don't think there's any more machine learning going on once a user uploads their custom model to HuggingFaces...

Lol yeah, everything is called "artificial intelligence" these days. Thing is, it isn't intelligent. It just picks the best option based on weights.

And yes, in most cases, you would make your own data set and use any of the current existing, pre-trained models as a starter point.

For example with object detection, you feed some current model thousands of images of a cucumber and thousands of images of a dildo, as well as completely unrelated images, and then have the AI... Oops, I mean... have the code, predict the most likely answer.

You'll end up with a large database of floating numbers, which gives, for example, results like 70% cucumber and 30% chance the image features a dildo.

yea that's my anal-ysis too. more big tech jargon and scam products

this thread should be specific to chat bots vs search, which is the only thing actually taking off?

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zijlstravideo · 02-01-2023, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

this thread should be specific to chat bots vs search, which is the only thing actually taking off?

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Well, object detection and text generation work more or less the same.

The "AI" weights which word would likely follow up the previous word the most (based on all the text in its data set), and picks the next word(s) accordingly. Also including some rules to randomize choices and weighting in the many synonyms, calculating the distance between keywords to determine how much these terms are related (and weight their importance).

If you take away some other on and off page SEO ranking factors that might impact the search results...
In the end, isn't the "AI" doing more or less the same thing as what search engines have been doing for many years now?

- Take user input
- Calculate the relation distance between keywords
- Factor in synonyms
- Use weights to calculate the relevance between words, then predict which are likely most important
- Output best matches

In that case, wouldn't Google be considered the biggest AI? It's even trained on the largest data set possible. But I barely hear anyone mention Google as even being an AI, even though they literally try to get the same results.

Anyway... Besides all the AI buzzwords being overhyped, this stuff is really impressive!

A year ago, I would have never thought that one year later we would be able to turn a few pixels back into a photo realistic image... But we can. While not 100% perfect yet, it's insanely, almost scary good:

Same for other things, like...
Having to worry about small sensor camera's generating too much noise during low light shoots, used to be the most common thing in the world...

Suddenly, a ton of great machine learning models get released and noise on raw footage is no longer any issue at all (if you know what you're doing).
Feels kinda surreal as it changes so fast.

A lot of these machine learning models are already that freakin' good.
This will effect a lot of jobs one way or another, and probably sooner than later.

CrazyMartin · 02-01-2023, 10:02 AM

google can buy it and ban anyone from using it

DVTimes · 02-01-2023, 10:43 AM

The solution is simple.

All google needs to do is produce its own version of AI.

Then let people select AI or the search for websites.

Even on the ai it can link to the sites it got the data from.

It can still run adds.

It can still place search results under the ai for adverts.

They own youtube and i would have thought that would make them more mopney in adverts anyway.

If I was going to place an advert it would be facebook, or youtube.

DVTimes · 02-01-2023, 10:46 AM

The huge problem with AI for info, is what if it gives wrong info and the AI firm gets sued.

At the moment that main AI chat thing does not seem to have anything adult, not even sexist jokes. So that may put people off using AI.

DVTimes · 02-01-2023, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin

google can buy it and ban anyone from using it

Microsoft purchased it for millions, and it is said it costs millions to run it.

They are not going to sell it, they do not need the cash.

Best-In-BC · 02-01-2023, 11:49 AM

if they go back to a version that works like it did 15 years ago

Klen · 02-01-2023, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin

google can buy it and ban anyone from using it

They are not only AI tech which can do that.

Rochard · 02-01-2023, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

i'm always amazed when i see an AOL email addy in the newsletter lists

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I spent my days looking at contacts lists full of email addresses... And ever day I stunned at how many people still have AOL email addresses.

brassmonkey · 02-01-2023, 01:07 PM

what i love is people posting strategies where spiders can see it

zijlstravideo · 02-01-2023, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

Microsoft purchased it for millions, and it is said it costs millions to run it.

True, Microsoft did indeed purchase it for millions... just not in dollars.

Due to the large amount of compute and GPU power needed to run the entire thing, Microsoft paid for the most part in Azure credits, you know, just happens to be another large company they own.

zijlstravideo · 02-01-2023, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

The huge problem with AI for info, is what if it gives wrong info and the AI firm gets sued.

That doesn't make any sense.

Like, why the fuck would the AI firm get sued for spitting out incorrect info?
Of course it spits out incorrect info. It's trained on all sorts of data, including outdated, or completely incorrect data.

Everyone knows that AI has zero understanding of the actual meaning of any of the words it spits out. All it does is compare numbers to predict... So of course it isn' fact checked, nor does a single end-user expect it to output such... (I hope).

plsureking · 02-02-2023, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by zijlstravideo

A year ago, I would have never thought that one year later we would be able to turn a few pixels back into a photo realistic image... But we can. While not 100% perfect yet, it's insanely, almost scary good

the popo happy too

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Mr Pheer · 02-02-2023, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gar

I did

For those who want to use it in adult try here.
https://huggingface.co

Nice, thanks.

Mr Pheer · 02-02-2023, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

The solution is simple.

All google needs to do is produce its own version of AI.

Then let people select AI or the search for websites.

Even on the ai it can link to the sites it got the data from.

It can still run adds.

It can still place search results under the ai for adverts.

They own youtube and i would have thought that would make them more mopney in adverts anyway.

If I was going to place an advert it would be facebook, or youtube.

I'm a beta tester for Google's lamda AI. It only runs on a phone app, and it's like talking to a kid compared to ChatGPT. It has very limited input, and it's output is just ok. You can't ask it to elaborate on a subject, it gives you a small list of options to choose from to dive deeper.

It reminds me of one of those books in Jr High School where you read a chapter, and then it gives you two options, slay the dragon turn to page 11, or run away, turn to page 139.

Klen · 02-02-2023, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I'm a beta tester for Google's lamda AI. It only runs on a phone app, and it's like talking to a kid compared to ChatGPT. It has very limited input, and it's output is just ok. You can't ask it to elaborate on a subject, it gives you a small list of options to choose from to dive deeper.

It reminds me of one of those books in Jr High School where you read a chapter, and then it gives you two options, slay the dragon turn to page 11, or run away, turn to page 139.

I had those books in elementary school too, tho they were mostly history related as far i remember.

adultinnovation · 02-02-2023, 03:05 PM

so its not sentient than lol

todservices · 02-03-2023, 03:56 AM

Google has history of buying competitors, potential threats, and tech companies which can challenge them... So they will probably end up buying it if the current hype is still active within 2-3 months

plsureking · 02-04-2023, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by todservices

Google has history of buying competitors, potential threats, and tech companies which can challenge them... So they will probably end up buying it if the current hype is still active within 2-3 months

one of the other monster tech companies took it. they'll fuck it up

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Marshal · 02-04-2023, 06:17 AM

Are you familiar with the concept of "huge data"? How much would it take in terms of resources to crawl and index all websites available out there? Do you know that a project like ChatGPT needs insane GPU power to run only with the limited dataset for training the model?

Have you ever wondered why so many engineers work within Google? The main technical issue of Google is to create new software to run on the CURRENT day technology, not to make a neuro and linguistic model that needs unlimited resources.

Is GPT-3 technology impressive? - Yes, it is.
Is Google already working on similar technology? - Yes, it is.
Will GPT-3, GPT-4, or any alternative algorithm ever be used to improve Google? Most likely, yes. Google is already invested $400M in ChatGPT rival Anthropic.
When will that happen? In years to come, once the hardware can keep up with the algorithm on a huge dataset such as "the whole web.:

Until then, good luck to anybody thinking they can use GPT-3 to build a useful search engine containing all the data available on the web.

plsureking · 02-04-2023, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marshal

The main technical issue of Google is to create new software to run on CURRENT day technology

tell me about it

need to add "and user competence.".

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Marshal · 02-04-2023, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking

tell me about it

need to add "and user competence.".

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I second that.

It literally reminds me of that tweet:
https://twitter.com/brenankeller/sta...087232?lang=en

2MuchMark · 02-04-2023, 08:04 AM

Microsoft investment of $10B is allowing them to attach GPT to Bing. This could ruin Google search, but Google has their own AI which they may connect to their own search platform too. Search engines are finally about to get a lot better.

plsureking · 02-04-2023, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshal

I second that.

It literally reminds me of that tweet:
https://twitter.com/brenankeller/sta...087232?lang=en

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