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Old 05-07-2023, 04:08 AM   #1
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Apparently TV writers are striking over AI

Apparently they are striking as they fear AI will be used to do the scripts.

Not sure how they could stop a TV or film show using AI to write the content.
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Old 05-07-2023, 04:12 AM   #2
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In a few years, I suspect you can go on a website, enter what director you like, what actors you like, a basic idea, and you will get an AI film made better than any film made today. And not needing millions to make.

You could have brand new Laurel and Hardy films.
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Old 05-07-2023, 04:45 AM   #3
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AI may take our jobs, so let's just refuse to work.
So AI can take our jobs.

Does this seem stupid to anyone else?
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Old 05-07-2023, 05:14 AM   #4
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As if writers aren't using AI to do some if not most of their 'work'.

Creative text generation is about the only practical use case for AI currently, since the inevitable errors can be more easily corrected, and I'd have more sympathy if the human writing on most TV shows and movies wasn't complete dogshit.

If AI can help move stories along, tie up loose ends and come up with satisfying resolutions, bring 'em on.

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AI may take our jobs, so let's just refuse to work.
So AI can take our jobs.

Does this seem stupid to anyone else?
Yeah. If your job can realistically be done by an AI, maybe don't give the people who hire you another huge reason to replace you with an AI.
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Old 05-07-2023, 05:41 AM   #5
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Yeah. If your job can realistically be done by an AI, maybe don't give the people who hire you another huge reason to replace you with an AI.
It's a long game. AI can't replace them YET, but it will be able to in a couple of years. They will want some very long duration contract that has language limiting the use of AI.
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Old 05-07-2023, 06:16 AM   #6
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They're smart - making sure things are in place on the ground level before the exe's figure that AI may have a shot. Though not sure it could produce humor or write something that could develop human emotions or draw upon them - given a few years who knows what can happen.

So ya - it's not about money as much as job security
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They're just mad because AI might create cool successful non-rapping Black characters.

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They're smart - making sure things are in place on the ground level before the exe's figure that AI may have a shot. Though not sure it could produce humor or write something that could develop human emotions or draw upon them - given a few years who knows what can happen.
AIs aren't going to come in and write Emmy award winning scripts in five seconds, but what they could do, and maybe can already do, is generate 'something' which is then used and refined by a far smaller team, maybe not even writers or part of any pesky guild or union.

I mean there are multiple drafts and proof-reading even for human writers, so naturally AI generated text will be worked over by humans.

As for comedy, the novelty of Talk to Transformer wore off for me pretty quickly, but for the initial hour or so after I found it, it was funnier than 99% of comedy I have ever seen. Why? Probably because it was generating stuff based on my input.

For the next few months, when it became more widely known, I saw people all over copypasting walls of text they found hysterical but which most other people probably didn't even bother reading let alone laugh at.

AIs are potentially perfect comedy (and drama/thriller/horror/porn/etc) tools, because they'll produce material specifically for you which doesn't have to appeal to or water itself down for anyone else.
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Apparently they are striking as they fear AI will be used to do the scripts.

Not sure how they could stop a TV or film show using AI to write the content.
They are striking because they don't get compensated fairly for streaming revenue. AI is not why they are striking
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I would not be surprised. I had AI write me a script for one of my favorite TV shows and it did it, and it was pretty good too. It wasn't a story, it was an actual script. AI can do this all day long - Tell your favorite AI platform to come up with fifty potential plots for James Bond or Star Trek and it will do it... Instantly.
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Old 05-07-2023, 10:03 AM   #12
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I may be wrong, but it seems to me that quite a few top pay sites are using AI already to write the video descriptions. Maybe they are using them to come up with scenarios as well?

But then again, I'm suspecting ChatGPT everywhere - quora, wikipedia, forums, here etc. Can't think what this 'paranoia' is going to be like in a couple more years.
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They are striking because they don't get compensated fairly for streaming revenue. AI is not why they are striking

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Of all the fears or realities cited by television and movie writers in their historic strike — depressed wages for many in an era of massive studio profits, the gigification of script-writing— it’s the question of artificial intelligence that can send creative minds to some truly dark places.

The strike “isn’t just about getting a better paycheck. It’s about the very foundation of our craft and ensuring that writers are valued and respected as the creative force behind the stories that captivate audiences worldwide,” said Gloria Calderón Kellett, co-creator of “One Day at a Time,” who echoed the concerns of many Hollywood writers with whom The Washington Post spoke about AI.
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AI may take our jobs, so let's just refuse to work.
So AI can take our jobs.

Does this seem stupid to anyone else?
It’s more of a Mexican standoff than anyone realizes.

Both sides saying you can’t use it.
Both sides, desperately wanting to use it.

The WGA has never had a strike last less than 100 days.

The actors strike in 2000 was so bad, movie work dried up for me and I landed here, in adult.
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Unsurprisingly most of the comments either don't care, or think AIs can't be any worse than the human 'talent' in Hollywood right now.

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I'm willing to bet almost nobody has even heard of that show, which so captivated audiences worldwide it was cancelled twice within two years by two different platforms/broadcasters trying to flog it to life.

The 'craft' amounts to nothing more than 'X but with Y'. In this case, a 1970s sitcom with Whites remade as a 2017 sitcom with Cubans. No AI could come up with such innovation.
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30 years from now you'll all be living along side robots wiping your asses for you and driving you around like slaves

I hope you'll be happy
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30 years from now you'll all be living along side robots wiping your asses for you and driving you around like slaves

I hope you'll be happy
Except during power cuts.
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