Why are all cars in USA with big liter engines?

[AkiraSS]

Yes I know the gas there is 4 times cheaper than in Europe, and cheaper than water

But, do you really need those big cars that are like standard there with big motors?

In Europe, average is 1.4l motors with 70 to 100 hp, and this is quite good for almost everyone that uses his car for anything but racing. These cars are also rather economic, styled good, small and goodlooking.

Why do american mainstream cars have to be with 2l engines minimum, weight 2 tons...and look rather ugly.

(We're talking about mainstream cars in the $15k area)

100-120 mph is very good top speed IMO, for a car. If you like to go faster, just get a bike and you'll reach 150-180mph and 10 times the adrenaline.

[Jon]

We have more roads.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
We have more roads.

So that means we require larger vehicles.

[Jon]

bigger gas tanks to travel those roads.

[directfiesta]

They now have Iraq....

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
bigger gas tanks to travel those roads.

Bigger gas tanks means better gas mileage?

I get 45 mpg in a Jetta, how many miles per gallon does an Escalade get?

[Cardboard Box]

I don't know many Americans who drive American cars anymore.

[AkiraSS]

Originally posted by directfiesta
They now have Iraq....

Nah, the oil belongs to the Iraqi people
Wait until you see those sandwarms start driving SUVs there and playing Carmagedon IRL

[Exxxotica]

Originally posted by AkiraSS



Why do american mainstream cars have to be with 2l engines minimum, weight 2 tons...and look rather ugly.

Most Americans drive foreign cars. GM makes the ugliest fucking cars on the market.

[Donny]

We all have small penises and need big engines to compensate.

[nobull]

don't believe what they say....size does matter

[Jon]

Originally posted by Cardboard Box
I don't know many Americans who drive American cars anymore.

NICE PIC!!!

[Jon]

Originally posted by AkiraSS


Why do american mainstream cars have to be with 2l engines minimum, weight 2 tons...and look rather ugly.

Mine has a 5.7L. I need a vehicle with an engine that big for the same reasons everyone else in North America does, for pulling tree stumps out of the ground. I couldn't pull out tree stumps with a 1.2 L. Silly foreigners.

[[Labret]]

You couldnt fit a typical american family in a typical euro car.

[AkiraSS]

Originally posted by [Labret]
You couldnt fit a typical american family in a typical euro car.

You're right here

[12clicks]

rich capitalist pigs need the biggest cars in the world.

[Brian]

Originally posted by nobull
don't believe what they say....size does matter

damnit, I was gonna say that!

[Ironhorse]

Americans like to live large.

[netstarz]

Because we can.............................

[directfiesta]

and are

[VirtuMike]

Because we can afford them.

How many bodies can you fit in the trunk of your SmartCar?

Plus our pollution goes to Europe. Take that France!

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by AkiraSS


Why do american mainstream cars have to be with 2l engines minimum, weight 2 tons...and look rather ugly.

Talk about ugly... look at those British mini's... that is one fucking Ugly car.

[smack]

because HORSEPOWER and TORQUE kick fucking ass!

[iroc409]

there is no replacement for displacement.

[hyper]

bigger pimps need bigger cars

[iroc409]

besides.. a 2L motor is big? fuck that, that's not even a v6.

[gruffy]

Originally posted by AkiraSS
In Europe, average is 1.4l motors with 70 to 100 hp, and this is quite good for almost everyone that uses his car for anything but racing. These cars are also rather economic, styled good, small and goodlooking.

Because the new trend for eurotrash and ricemobile marketing is to completely fabricate the horsepower specifications.

ie, a 1987 buick regal t-type is listed at 240hp but when it is actually measured in reality it comes out to 270hp.

Do the same with a ricer or eurotrash vehicle of this year that claims 210-240 hp, you will find it only manages about 160-180.


Its creative marketing, fraud and flat out bullshit that idiots use to argue against domestics.

[Rochard]

It's the American way. Bigger is better.

We like our cars big with big fucking engines.

Like my Mustang. Big V8 engine, fast in a straight line. Get me a road with curves and I'm fucked.

[Stump]

If you take a 4 banger and mod the fuck out of it, you can get some pretty good HP numbers (torque is another issue)

As far as 5L engines are concerned, I think they're over-rated. Why bother paying 10 G's on an engine when you can get a B18C 4 banger for like 5k and a big turbo for like 4k... not only does it cost alot less, it also retains its great gas mileage (which is something domestics are less than good at)

Ah yes. The wonderfull domestic/import arguments kick ass. The domestic guys seem to have a shorter fuse tho.. EH, I call em as i sees em.

Anyway, I saw a pic once and it said something along the lines of "dont mess with me or i'll argue with you over the internet".

Heh.

[Stump]

Because the new trend for eurotrash and ricemobile marketing is to completely fabricate the horsepower specifications.

Dude, you do realise that almost all advertised HP numbers are measured at the flywheel, and when magazines and shit review them, the HP is measured at the wheels, right?

When they advertise a 87 buick at 240 HP, its probably because they want the person that buys it to be like, "wow, theres even more power then they said!"

When they advertise an RSX at like 240 HP, but it gets reviewed at 200, its because theres a loss of power in the drivetrain. Dipshit.

ie, a 1987 buick regal t-type is listed at 240hp but when it is actually measured in reality it comes out to 270hp.

I think your a little off there... No company in its right mind would advertise a car with false HP numbers like that...



And one more thing... Whats with "ricemobile"? An import classifies as rice if its got a big body kit and decals all over it. How is a stock honda civic (an economy car no less) a ricemobile?
You're the kind of domestic enthusiast that gives the rest of the domestic guys a bad name.

[iroc409]

Originally posted by Stump
If you take a 4 banger and mod the fuck out of it, you can get some pretty good HP numbers (torque is another issue)

As far as 5L engines are concerned, I think they're over-rated. Why bother paying 10 G's on an engine when you can get a B18C 4 banger for like 5k and a big turbo for like 4k... not only does it cost alot less, it also retains its great gas mileage (which is something domestics are less than good at)

Ah yes. The wonderfull domestic/import arguments kick ass. The domestic guys seem to have a shorter fuse tho.. EH, I call em as i sees em.

Anyway, I saw a pic once and it said something along the lines of "dont mess with me or i'll argue with you over the internet".

Heh.

well, someone has got to set the record strait, so i guess i'll do it.

first of all, for the $5k you spent just to buy the block of that little 4cyl, i can build a v8 that will be faster. without the $4k turbo. spend dollar for dollar on an import 4cyl motor vs a good v8, and the v8 will hands-down have exponentially more power.

$10k on a ricer motor might net you 350-400hp if done very correctly and carefully. $10k on a v8 can net you 800hp or more, depending on the longevity and parts used (i.e. a crower entry-level 4340 crank vs. a trickflow top-end 4340 crank).

you can build a small block chevy to 400hp and still get 20mpg. it's been done, nothing new. and you can do that for probably around $6000.. i'm working on a similar project now.

the only import motor that i can think of that you can get extremely good numbers on relatively low $$ is the rx7 motor. they did that one right.

but, under NO circumstances is there EVER a replacement for displacement. dollar for dollar, the larger motor will win. generally even big blocks do a tiny bit better than a small block, as well. a 7+L motor modded about the same as a 5.7 will always make more power.

as far as horsepower ratings, gm is very notorious for under-rating their power numbers. i've heard ford guys say this as well. i've seen it, i've owned them, it's true. even rwhp. take for example the most notable under-rating around. the (late-60's early-70's era) corvette was rated at a respectable 350hp. a _completely stock_ model was dynoed - 30 years later - and was still pulling a healthy 450hp. on the showroom floor, this was probably around 500hp.

i've never seen an import do anything like that, and i've owned a few of those, and am around a lot. if they did that, there's no excuse for my old toyota turbo celica not to be blowing away 3rd gen camaros on a regular basis.


and in the end, do you know a single 4cylinder car that can make 10hp per cubic inch? nope. 5000hp on 500cid:




there are decent imports out there, but it would take too much money and too much work to make a 1.4L 4 banger to romp on a $7000 v8 in a camaro.

enjoy!

[Biggy2]

you want the real answer to your question..

as my good friend Jay-Z said:

"The power of the P-U-S-S-Y
It's why every motherfucker in the world dress fly
Why every baller that can afford it will cop the best ride
For the power of the P-U-S-S-Y"

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by 12clicks
rich capitalist pigs need the biggest cars in the world.

To compensate for their tiny little dicks...

[andi_germany]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


To compensate for their tiny little dicks...

Was about to say that. Big car means 'replacement metal penis'

[JohnV]

Originally posted by Cardboard Box
I don't know many Americans who drive American cars anymore.

I hear that. Most of the people I know drive Euro cars and US trucks or SUVS. I'm a sucker for German cars and I think we can all agree that Japanese cars are quite amazing (price wise, performance wise and reliability wise)....just my

[manilaheat]

The only really cool American car is a Lincoln Town Car.

I want one of those to drive around in.

[deniska]

My small foreign 2 passneger car has a 4.3l v8... eats gas but who cares I like having a V8.

[rowan]

I drive a 'big aussie six' - 4.0L 6 cyl. I'm 6'6 tall so I'm kinda limited in the number of cars that I can fit into comfortably.

I still haven't worked out whether big refers to the engine size, or the body size.

[bryany]

I have a big V8 4.7 in my Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. It has 250HP and 320ft-lb torque @ 3000 (with a few mods ;) ) All-time 4 wheel drive that has some fawking balls. It keeps up with a lot of cars.

Lemme see a 1.8L pull a full size boat

[Donny]

I drive a 2002 Ford Powerstroke Diesel Crew Cab 4x4 Truck. It has 525 lb-ft torque. I need that to haul my camera gear.

[gruffy]

Originally posted by Stump

Dude, you do realise that almost all advertised HP numbers are measured at the flywheel, and when magazines and shit review them, the HP is measured at the wheels, right?

When they advertise a 87 buick at 240 HP, its probably because they want the person that buys it to be like, "wow, theres even more power then they said!"

When they advertise an RSX at like 240 HP, but it gets reviewed at 200, its because theres a loss of power in the drivetrain. Dipshit.

"Almost all" - are you implying ricers and eurotrash makers started doing it so now domestics do too?

You can also claim your new "1000W" made in taiwan amp is the shiznit but it will only deliver about 150W peak to your speakers before the signal becomes unusable.

All marketing hype measured in a controlled evironment and rice is the worst offender by far. Can't pull the numbers, just measure differently or make them up.

[iroc409]

no rebuttles? dammit!



edit: besides, gimme a fucking break. just because some people have faster cars or bigger cars, doesn't mean it's a fucking penis replacement. everyone that doesn't have that shit always whines that crap.

some people just like to go faster, or in more style than some 1.8L renault.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


To compensate for their tiny little dicks...

Better to compensate with a car than with your thousands of drunken posts.

[edcrack]

we like power

[wildporno]

again this imports vs domestics thread... american cars all suck big fucking time, except vettes and vipers, everything else is GARBAGE !!!!!!!!!! you defent american cars caz you can't fucking afford a higher level car, fuck.... mustangs, camaros all that shit only got SPEED, but there is alot more to the car then speed it's called style, interior/exterior design, reliability, class, looks, i can go on forever....

[iroc409]

Originally posted by wildporno
again this imports vs domestics thread... american cars all suck big fucking time, except vettes and vipers, everything else is GARBAGE !!!!!!!!!! you defent american cars caz you can't fucking afford a higher level car, fuck.... mustangs, camaros all that shit only got SPEED, but there is alot more to the car then speed it's called style, interior/exterior design, reliability, class, looks, i can go on forever....

you haven't been around too many american cars lately, have you? ahh, ignorance IS bliss!

[The Heron]

We Americans need big vehicles and engines to pull all our toys (boats, 4wheelers, dirtbikes, motorhomes, trailers, etc) to our vacation houses out in the country of course! We also need them because we like to run over pedestrians and small animals that happen to be in the way.

[iroc409]

thinking about it, i think there are more cheap import vehicles than there are cheap domestics. i'm talking the sub-$15k class. yeah, pretty sure about that...

[JDog]

Originally posted by Exxxotica



Most Americans drive foreign cars. GM makes the ugliest fucking cars on the market.

I agree to an extint, but the Chevy trucks are nice. Except the 2003's...

jdog