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Old 05-29-2003, 01:34 PM   #1
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anybody use this shit?

arsenal x. just started it today, took 1. i've got a shitload of energy right now, and i just got back from jogging. wheeee!

dammit tho, i'm kindof afraid of using it too much. the folks at gnc said it was ephedrine-free and it was really safe and everything, and then i find it has sida cordifolia in it. anyone had any experience with that stuff?
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Old 05-29-2003, 01:36 PM   #2
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just give yourself a coffee enema 3x a week and it will be better than what your taking
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Old 05-29-2003, 01:38 PM   #3
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just give yourself a coffee enema 3x a week and it will be better than what your taking

yeah, but caffeine really doesn't affect me. probably because i drank so much soda in high school. some sources say that sida cordifolia is for the most part a lot safer than ma huang, because it's a lot less amount, and slightly different than regular ephedrine. i think i'm going to call them back and bitch. that's seriously low, i figured these guys should know what they're talking about, it's what they do for a living...
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yeah, but caffeine really doesn't affect me. probably because i drank so much soda in high school. some sources say that sida cordifolia is for the most part a lot safer than ma huang, because it's a lot less amount, and slightly different than regular ephedrine. i think i'm going to call them back and bitch. that's seriously low, i figured these guys should know what they're talking about, it's what they do for a living...
nah dont drink the coffee give yourself an enema
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Old 05-29-2003, 01:40 PM   #5
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nah dont drink the coffee give yourself an enema
lol... no thanks.
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arsenal x. just started it today, took 1. i've got a shitload of energy right now, and i just got back from jogging. wheeee!

dammit tho, i'm kindof afraid of using it too much. the folks at gnc said it was ephedrine-free and it was really safe and everything, and then i find it has sida cordifolia in it. anyone had any experience with that stuff?
That is a different form of ephedra.

Sida Cordifolia contains ephedrine alkaloids common to the Chinese plant Ma-Huang but in lesser quantities. It is considered a weaker cardiovascular and nervous system stimulant than Ma-Huang and it contains other broncodilating properties which are not found in Ma-Huang. 10 to 25 drops twice daily or as needed. Not recommended if nursing or pregnant.
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lol... no thanks.
dont knock it till you try it.

ME and Amp always get together and give each other enemas all the time.
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Old 05-29-2003, 01:49 PM   #8
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lol... of course, juicy.



yeah, i realize that sida cordifolia is a little different than ma huang, but still, a lot of med sites and stuff say it still is ephedrine, and can be just as dangerous. i'm sure it is safer, but it still bothers me, and bothers me that they weren't informing customers that it is a from of ephedrine. they basically said that there is no ephedrine at all.. which really isn't true. the ephedrine alkaloids are pretty much the same thing, with less potency.


i called the main center, and they said i could take it back, including the open bottle to exchange for something else. so, i guess i'll go back there and at least get some money back, i bought a 2-bottle pack, it wasn't much more. just as well get some money back, i doubt i'll use all of this. it does work though, and it isn't making me flip out like ephedrine (i tried that once, that wasn't cool).
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