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Old 01-18-2025, 11:44 PM   #1
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Porn sites up against French deadline for age checks
Pornographic websites must be able to verify users' ages in France from Saturday, the result of a years-long battle between operators and authorities, with start-ups scenting an opportunity in the new arrangement.

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Old 01-19-2025, 03:38 AM   #2
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How will they check? Will they just make a sign?
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Old 01-19-2025, 04:19 AM   #3
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According to the XLove cams newsletter I got this morning, it's recommended to use this service : https://go.cam/en/ Aparently, it also meets the forthcoming UK age verification requirements.

It costs 0.03 euros or dollars per verification.

I think I've sent XLove Cams over 1K uniques without a single sale.
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How will they check? Will they just make a sign?
You are supposed to setup a double blind method to check the id: a third party tells it's ok.
It's just more hassle.
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Old 01-19-2025, 07:29 AM   #5
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who is going to submit his id to watch it? just a big wow!!!!
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According to the XLove cams newsletter I got this morning, it's recommended to use this service : https://go.cam/en/ Aparently, it also meets the forthcoming UK age verification requirements.

It costs 0.03 euros or dollars per verification.

I think I've sent XLove Cams over 1K uniques without a single sale.
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fuck that, doesn't france have bigger issues than porno
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Old 01-19-2025, 03:44 PM   #10
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fuck that, doesn't france have bigger issues than porno
France is looking for ways to make money and tries to use a "moral" coating to do it.
The ability to control more things increases the ability to raise taxes better.
Getting your ID helps to do that.
Also they already control your id at least on a french auction website that i know (not ebay).
I am sure you could just reuse the same service and claim "oh but it's not just for porn, your privacy is safe"...

Anyway age checks will reduce the number of free loaders and increase the number of committed users.
The impact for a business is hard to assess.

Also besides sexual intercourses, the definition of porn in France is probably not the same as in Texas.
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I’d like to go to France, but France is no longer France.
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If you told me in 2005 that porn would be free and age check would be forced on adult sites... I would have laughed at you. Yet here we are.
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It's part of the Islamization of France and Europe.
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Yes indeed !
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If you told me in 2005 that porn would be free and age check would be forced on adult sites... I would have laughed at you. Yet here we are.
Blame the tubes. No one wants to do that
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Just did a test on French IP - all the porn sites working fine without any verification.
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According to the XLove cams newsletter I got this morning, it's recommended to use this service : https://go.cam/en/ Aparently, it also meets the forthcoming UK age verification requirements.

It costs 0.03 euros or dollars per verification.

I think I've sent XLove Cams over 1K uniques without a single sale.
I have a lead out with GO.cam to see how their system works, but according to their certifications, it's an AI module designed to "guess" the persons age. Persona has something similar but they also have an actual ID verification service.

I think that explains why it's so cheap.

The certifiers, KJM and GSI, do not appear to say whether any service actually meets the requirements of individual laws. How messy this whole process is. I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of integrating a service only to find out it's suddenly not enough of a verifier.
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Just did a test on French IP - all the porn sites working fine without any verification.
It's probably dns based.
Find a french dns
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same thing in Tennessee. Can you suggest a VPN affiliate link on verification site?
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I'm from Paris ... everything as usual.

Any particular site to visit in order to trigger the age verification?
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Any particular site to visit in order to trigger the age verification?
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I have a lead out with GO.cam to see how their system works, but according to their certifications, it's an AI module designed to "guess" the persons age. Persona has something similar but they also have an actual ID verification service.

I think that explains why it's so cheap.

The certifiers, KJM and GSI, do not appear to say whether any service actually meets the requirements of individual laws. How messy this whole process is. I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of integrating a service only to find out it's suddenly not enough of a verifier.
Just an update on this. I found that it's an AI library that detects age via webcam locally in the browser. It doesn't appear to be consistent but did receive certifications via go.cam, not from the underlying library. That does mean you can self-host it. No idea on how effective this will be as age verification though. YMMV.
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so, they’re going to force verification on Twitter too?

Twitter is one of the biggest porn sites
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so, they’re going to force verification on Twitter too?

Twitter is one of the biggest porn sites
Not sure about France, but the UK is requiring social media sites hosting porn to age verify too.
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All the porn sites working fine without any verifications

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It's probably dns based.
Find a french dns
Working fine:

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Wait...
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I always thought this to be interesting.

Porn is bad, but violence is perfectly acceptable.

Porn is more or less the act of two (or more) people having sex, something every teenager will do. On the other hand, having thirteen year olds play video games like Call Of Duty which is nothing but violence and gore is... okay?
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No, sex between a 45yo man and 18yo girl is perfectly legal but . . .
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I always thought this to be interesting.

Porn is bad, but violence is perfectly acceptable.

Porn is more or less the act of two (or more) people having sex, something every teenager will do. On the other hand, having thirteen year olds play video games like Call Of Duty which is nothing but violence and gore is... okay?
Yeah, and reading about that evil fuck who murdered the little girls in Southport, it appears that the was a fan of gore sites and the like. Yet these wont require age verification under the UK rules.

So teen boys will get their 'taboo' adrenalin rush in future not from porn sites but from gore sites. Watching two adults having sex will corrupt their sweet innocence and they will be protected from that, but watching guys getting beheaded is OK.

What could possibly go wrong?

Again, this part of the process of the Islamization of Europe and the West. Recall that even ISIS pixelates out any offensive genitalia or breasts when releasing their brutal execution videos.
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