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Old 06-04-2003, 12:34 PM   #51
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:34 PM   #52
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okay dig.... let's spin this in the other direction for a moment.

Let's suppose the law came down today: Flag burning is now perfectly legal and even encouraged.

So.... now what? You just got what you wanted, so now what? Now we get to see hordes of homeless piss pants degenerates burning flags on courthouse steps in protest of their disfunctionality because "society didn't give them any breaks"?

Maybe the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade will feature a float of burning flags this year?

Get a speeding ticket, protest it outside the courthouse by burning the flag?

Maybe the next presidential campaign will go on a round robin nationwide flag burning tour to bolster the idea of free speech.

Burn one at your next Parent/Teacher conference in defiance of their preformed corporate tools.

Didn't like the movie? Burn a flag outside the theatre.


Please explain to me how granting the right to burn a flag helps anyone. What great purpose is it serving? Give me an example that ISN'T as stupid as the one's I've just given.... tell me when would be an opportune time to whip out my flag and lighter.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:35 PM   #53
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Great... not only do I have to agree with Mr. Fiction, but also dig. The world is ending...
It gets worse. I'm with you guys on this one too.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:37 PM   #54
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okay dig.... let's spin this in the other direction for a moment.

Let's suppose the law came down today: Flag burning is now perfectly legal and even encouraged.

So.... now what? You just got what you wanted, so now what? Now we get to see hordes of homeless piss pants degenerates burning flags on courthouse steps in protest of their disfunctionality because "society didn't give them any breaks"?

Maybe the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade will feature a float of burning flags this year?

Get a speeding ticket, protest it outside the courthouse by burning the flag?

Maybe the next presidential campaign will go on a round robin nationwide flag burning tour to bolster the idea of free speech.

Burn one at your next Parent/Teacher conference in defiance of their preformed corporate tools.

Didn't like the movie? Burn a flag outside the theatre.


Please explain to me how granting the right to burn a flag helps anyone. What great purpose is it serving? Give me an example that ISN'T as stupid as the one's I've just given.... tell me when would be an opportune time to whip out my flag and lighter.
Um. Until the Constitutional Amendment is passed, flag burning is allowed. You don't exactly see thousands of flag burnings a day.

The reason they need an Ammendment, by the way, is because the Supreme Court, the ultimate guardians of the Constitution, already said that flag burning is protected by the first amendment. Another amendment would be needed to overturn that aspect of the First.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:42 PM   #55
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what about Flag spray painting? Burning is too cliche.... I wanna innovate... is flag spray painting still cool? How about flag bronzing? Can I bronze a flag?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:43 PM   #56
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what about Flag spray painting? Burning is too cliche.... I wanna innovate... is flag spray painting still cool? How about flag bronzing? Can I bronze a flag?
You can bronze it, but if you melt it down afterwards, you'll go to jail with the evil pot smokers!
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:44 PM   #57
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You can bronze it, but if you melt it down afterwards, you'll go to jail with the evil pot smokers!
cool..... how about flag oragami? Can I make a flag swan out on the White House lawn?
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:47 PM   #58
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what never fails to amaze me is how people of YOUR mindset never seem to see the stupidity in outlawing burning a FUCKING SYMBOL. It's a rag, a piece of fucking cloth. What counts are the principles that flag embodies - the right to complain against your government, the right to FREE SPEECH, the right to protest and to elect your chosen representatives. Outlawing the burning of the flag is a far greater desecration of that flag than burning it.
I served under that "SYMBOL" for 12 years. I was willing to kill or die while serving under that "SYMBOL" and came close to doing so. I will not allow anyone to desecrate that "SYMBOL" in my presence without my doing every thing in my power to stop it. I am still willing to kill or die for that "SYMBOL".
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:53 PM   #59
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Um. Until the Constitutional Amendment is passed, flag burning is allowed. You don't exactly see thousands of flag burnings a day.
well shit.... what the hell are you guys waiting for??! Start burning! Hell, I'm gonna get me a case of them meaningless rags today and burn the whole works over at the nearest church tonight... (so I can protest religion at the same time) The voice of idiocy MUST be heard!
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:00 PM   #60
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iF YOUR BURNING A FLAG.. NO MATTER WHOSE IT IS.. YOUR MAKING A STATEMENT. fORTUNATELY WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO SO.

AT THE RATE BUSH IS TAKING IT.. WHOEVER PUTS US DOWN WILL HAVE THEIR COUNTRY FUCKED UP.
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:01 PM   #61
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You can bronze it, but if you melt it down afterwards, you'll go to jail with the evil pot smokers!
I just wonder if you would defend as aggressively someone burning a cross
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the funny part of all this is, sure... go ahead... you wanna burn the flag so damn bad, you can.... you won't go to prison. There ya go... free speech at it's finest hour.

But you'll never be able to legislate away the ass beatings you're likely to get from people whenever you torch one.
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:03 PM   #64
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I served under that "SYMBOL" for 12 years. I was willing to kill or die while serving under that "SYMBOL" and came close to doing so. I will not allow anyone to desecrate that "SYMBOL" in my presence without my doing every thing in my power to stop it. I am still willing to kill or die for that "SYMBOL".
oh fuck off you sweaty dirtbag, I served too and I even managed not to get run over by someone in my own platoon. Until you get that backbrace off I wouldn't get too damn threatening with anyone.

the difference is that I served to protect our country and our freedom. You apparently served to protect a piece of cloth sold wholesale @ a dozen for 5.00
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the funny part of all this is, sure... go ahead... you wanna burn the flag so damn bad, you can.... you won't go to prison. There ya go... free speech at it's finest hour.

But you'll never be able to legislate away the ass beatings you're likely to get from people whenever you torch one.
This is true, but I'll take an asswhipping over a jail cell anyday ;)
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:14 PM   #66
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oh fuck off you sweaty dirtbag, I served too and I even managed not to get run over by someone in my own platoon. Until you get that backbrace off I wouldn't get too damn threatening with anyone.

the difference is that I served to protect our country and our freedom. You apparently served to protect a piece of cloth sold wholesale @ a dozen for 5.00
Danny boy...the flag is a "SYMBOL" of our country and our freedom...Mom, apple pie, and the American way...it is not a symbol of government. Hmm...served in the NG just like the other Danny boy...a weekend REMF.
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:16 PM   #67
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I served under that "SYMBOL" for 12 years. I was willing to kill or die while serving under that "SYMBOL" and came close to doing so. I will not allow anyone to desecrate that "SYMBOL" in my presence without my doing every thing in my power to stop it. I am still willing to kill or die for that "SYMBOL".

Idiots fight for symbols and honor, smart ones fight for tangible causes... people, children, freedom, world peace...

You seem to be a very emotionally immature individual, like those who join radical muslim groups, fighting for symbols and honor while leaving their brain at the door.
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Danny boy...the flag is a "SYMBOL" of our country and our freedom...Mom, apple pie, and the American way...it is not a symbol of government. Hmm...served in the NG just like the other Danny boy...a weekend REMF.
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Just because someone thinks the right to burn a flag should be preserved, doesn't mean they want to run around burning flags all day.

Flag burners are idiots, who don't realize how lucky they have it...but America's always given idiots rights they don't understand or appreciate.

The ability to burn your own flag is one incredibly visible (as well as useless and imbecilic) action that seperates the US from places like Iraq under Hussein and other similar dictators. It's not the most important, or the most useful, but it is definitely a visible sign of freedom which those types of countries lack.

Let the retards burn their flags if they want.
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The problems start when the hippie crackheads feel they need to make some sort of "statement" by standing on the White House lawn burning flags to show how stupid they are.
who can get to the whitehouse lawn these days?..it's blocked by cement barriers, men armed with sniper rifles and pistols and protected by missile batteries
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