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Old 01-19-2006, 09:49 AM   #301
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Any seen 12clicks around? Haven't seen much of him here lately.
i heard he went broke. mojo finally got fed up of carrying him
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:46 PM   #304
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I've always known Einstein was wrong about time travel but I never felt I had the time to properly debunk it.
So tonight, I'm eating Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream and a simple answer to the problem presented itself

The theory is that if you could travel at faster than the speed of light, you could travel through time. Here is why its wrong:

Time has no relationship to people. Time passes regardless of what a person does.
if something happends in another galaxy and it takes a year to see it because the light is traveling from so far away, by the time we see it, its already a year old (standard stuff)
But if we travel at faster than the speed of light towards that galaxy, we will get closer to seeing the galaxy in realtime. we will NOT be turning back the clock.
The proof of this is our ability to travel faster than the speed of sound.
If a sound takes 10 seconds to reach our ear because the action creating it was so far away, we hear an action that happened 10 seconds ago. Not unlike seeing something from the other galaxy that happened already.
Now, if we travel at the speed of sound towards the action that made the sound, we DO hear the sound sooner but we do not travel back in time.
Swap speed of sound with speed of light and you see why Albert Einstein is wrong.
This might be the most idiotic reasoning I read in a while
I suggest taking some physics courses at uni....

Thanks for making me feel more educated!
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This might be the most idiotic reasoning I read in a while
I suggest taking some physics courses at uni....

Thanks for making me feel more educated!
oh, how children love to chirp.
I'll bet you don't even like ice cream
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and now I've laid out my entire adult plans over a bowl of chunky monkey.

what I really want to know is what happened to my help thread with the hundreds of questions.
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Old 06-23-2006, 04:19 PM   #307
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Old 06-23-2006, 04:38 PM   #308
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I didnt read shit here but, its already been proven to be true so forget it.
check again, Einstein.
http://www.physicsmyths.org.uk/timedilation.htm
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This thread is proof of time travel. ;D heh
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I'll bet you don't even like ice cream
I am lactose intolertant
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I'll bet you don't even like ice cream
I can only picture one place on earth that doesn't like ice cream and it's called COMMUNIST CHINA. fucking commies.
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I've always known Einstein was wrong about time travel but I never felt I had the time to properly debunk it.
So tonight, I'm eating Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream and a simple answer to the problem presented itself

The theory is that if you could travel at faster than the speed of light, you could travel through time. Here is why its wrong:

Time has no relationship to people. Time passes regardless of what a person does.
if something happends in another galaxy and it takes a year to see it because the light is traveling from so far away, by the time we see it, its already a year old (standard stuff)
But if we travel at faster than the speed of light towards that galaxy, we will get closer to seeing the galaxy in realtime. we will NOT be turning back the clock.
The proof of this is our ability to travel faster than the speed of sound.
If a sound takes 10 seconds to reach our ear because the action creating it was so far away, we hear an action that happened 10 seconds ago. Not unlike seeing something from the other galaxy that happened already.
Now, if we travel at the speed of sound towards the action that made the sound, we DO hear the sound sooner but we do not travel back in time.
Swap speed of sound with speed of light and you see why Albert Einstein is wrong.
Im not gonna read all of this thread but this post made me laugh... lol

Now I hope none of it pollutes my brain, my Cosmology and Relativistic Space Science exam is 5th June (1st year finals)
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Im not gonna read all of this thread but this post made me laugh... lol

Now I hope none of it pollutes my brain, my Cosmology and Relativistic Space Science exam is 5th June (1st year finals)
I suggest you stay away from the icecream until after the test.

and what do Cosmetics have to do with Relativistic Space Science?
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Just in case you're actually interested ;)

Stanford Confirms it with particle accelerators.
http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/th...elativity.html

In particle accelerators, particles are moving very close to the speed of light where the length and time effects are large. This has allowed us to clearly verify that length contraction and time dilation do occur.

GPS Satellites operation also confirms it:
http://www.physicscentral.com/writers/2000/will.html

But at 38 microseconds per day, the relativistic offset in the rates of the satellite clocks is so large that, if left uncompensated, it would cause navigational errors that accumulate faster than 10 km per day! GPS accounts for relativity by electronically adjusting the rates of the satellite clocks, and by building mathematical corrections into the computer chips which solve for the user's location. Without the proper application of relativity, GPS would fail in its navigational functions within about 2 minutes.

Hafele and Keating Experiment with atomic clocks on airplanes:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...iv/airtim.html

These results provide an unambiguous empirical resolution of the famous clock "paradox" with macroscopic clocks."
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are you saying mine are worse ?
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I suggest you stay away from the icecream until after the test.

and what do Cosmetics have to do with Relativistic Space Science?
haha You been on the ice cream too?

3 exams, this one been the last. Need to 50% and above them all or I fail the year. No pressure.
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- nothing can travel at or faster than lightspeed.
Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

i have the uncanny abilty to hear in the dark. Thus I am not so quick to toss around the word "impossible" :D
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Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

i have the uncanny abilty to hear in the dark. Thus I am not so quick to toss around the word "impossible" :D
Whats the fact that sound travels through vibrations in a medium, got to do with anything other than electromagnetic radiation travelling at light speeds?

At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles
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Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?
Because of relativistic mass increase.

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Whats the fact that sound travels through vibrations in a medium, got to do with anything other than electromagnetic radiation travelling at light speeds?
it has to do with 1) the fact that some people so lack a sense of humor they completely miss that aspect of it,
and 2) the illustration (through humor mind you) of doing the seemingly impossible. I often find that those who are quick to say "that's impossible" are simply too close-minded to see that just because we as 21st century humans can't do it, doesn't necessarily mean something is impossible. It just means that it is impossible at present.

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At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles
But why? Light IS particles.
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Because of relativistic mass increase.
Blabber jabber.

Once Dr. Daystrom invents the first warp drive you eggheads will eat your words.
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why is that, because the theories don't hold up under such circumstances or because light particles stop existing at such speeds?
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why is that, because the theories don't hold up under such circumstances or because light particles stop existing at such speeds?
Because there isn;t a unified theory of light yet that holds true under all situations. Einstein would have got it, if he'd not been so obsessed with the goddam graviton......
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Because there isn;t a unified theory of light yet that holds true under all situations.
or put another way the theories don't hold up under such circumstances
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I heard that the length of a second is based around our current galactic speed away from the point of origin of the big bang.

It is primarily this speed which gives us our current time dialation which we are familiar with.

If we were on a galaxy which was much further away from the point of origin of the big bang - then we would by definition be moving faster, and therefore incur a dialation whereby our seconds would last slightly longer.

(Using seconds to make it simple.)
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now what numb skull bumped this?
this is settled fact.
Who exactly are any of you to suggest I'm wrong?
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BTW - this means if you get on a rocket - and head back towards the point of origin of the big bang - your seconds will last a shorter period of time and you will age faster (as effectively you are moving slower than you were on the galaxy).

If you stop your rocket at the point of the origin of the big bang - then your seconds will elapse in an instant - you will no longer exist.

This I feel fits in with a unified theory of at the very least space, speed and time.
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BTW - this means if you get on a rocket - and head back towards the point of origin of the big bang - your seconds will last a shorter period of time and you will age faster (as effectively you are moving slower than you were on the galaxy).

If you stop your rocket at the point of the origin of the big bang - then your seconds will elapse in an instant - you will no longer exist.

This I feel fits in with a unified theory of at the very least space, speed and time.
I disagree. I believe that time is linear no matter where in the universe you are. However, as you near the point of the big bang origin your head will implode.

I need a test subject.
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But at 38 microseconds per day, the relativistic offset in the rates of the satellite clocks is so large that, if left uncompensated, it would cause navigational errors that accumulate faster than 10 km per day! GPS accounts for relativity by electronically adjusting the rates of the satellite clocks, and by building mathematical corrections into the computer chips which solve for the user's location. Without the proper application of relativity, GPS would fail in its navigational functions within about 2 minutes.
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Once Dr. Daystrom invents the first warp drive you eggheads will eat your words.
Zefram Cochrane, not Daystrom...Daystrom was a computer guy.
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some theories say that when you go in a blackhole, you get teleported to another blackhole in the universe (theory of star trek, wich I never watch btw)

Umm no. Not even close. Star Trek delt in the concept of warp speed. The idea of being able to actually warp space. For example, point A and B are 3 light years apart. You warp the space between them so it's say maybe a few thousand miles depending upon the amount of warp you are applying.

The closest thing to what you're talking about our worm holes. (That would be Stargate, I always watch that right after Star Trek by the way.)
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Sorry, was high on ice cream at the time. :D
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:00 PM   #341
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:09 PM   #342
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Umm no. Not even close. Star Trek delt in the concept of warp speed. The idea of being able to actually warp space. For example, point A and B are 3 light years apart. You warp the space between them so it's say maybe a few thousand miles depending upon the amount of warp you are applying.

The closest thing to what you're talking about our worm holes. (That would be Stargate, I always watch that right after Star Trek by the way.)
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:03 AM   #343
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all you did was disprove something einstein never implied

the limitation to traveling at the speed of light is mass

ie the closer you get to it the more your mass untill your mass becomes infinate at C
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:50 AM   #344
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I may be wrong - but didnt Einstein say that nothing could ACCELERATE to the speed of light because infinate energy was required (and theres the equivalence between mass and energy of course). I dont think he thought nothing could travel at the speed of light - as of course light does.

Im thinking that just because you cant get to the speed of light doesnt mean you cant move at the speed of light if you are already in motion. Chicken and egg probably.

I know one thing - the answer is out there somewhere.

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all you did was disprove something einstein never implied

the limitation to traveling at the speed of light is mass

ie the closer you get to it the more your mass untill your mass becomes infinate at C
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:55 AM   #345
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Black holes - when you approach a Black hole feet first the tidal gravitational forces vary so greatly from 1mm to the next (IE your foot is therefore under MASSIVELY MORE gravity than your knee) - that your body becomes stretched like a piece of chewing gum as it approaches the singularity.

Effectively each atom which once formed you and your spacesuit would be stretched out in a big line - with the atoms from your shoes spaced further apart than those which came from your head.

All in a split second as you accelerated towards oblivion.

All this shit about black holes leading to another is rubbish - trust me - go near a black hole and you are fucked - BIG TIME.
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Black holes - when you approach a Black hole feet first
I've approached a black hole several times, but never feet first.

I'll have to try it.

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go near a black hole and you are fucked - BIG TIME.
On that we can agree. Each and every time I approached it I did get fucked, not only big time but royally.

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This thread is so full of fail it makes me giggle.
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Am I the only one who'd love to see 12clicks all coked up and off his tree?
It would be just like this thread. With visuals.
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