Isn't Hypno Trick just simulated rape? - GoFuckYourself.com

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:27 AM

I'm kindof amazed that I've never heard anyone mention this before, but it seems to me that www.hypnotrick.com is just simulated rape and likely profits off of peoples rape fantasies.

Girl comes in, she gets hypnotized, guy fucks girl when she is hypnotized and semi-coherent.

If a psychiatrist did that in real life it would be rape, so how is this any different?

lil2rich4u2's woman · 06-26-2003, 12:28 AM

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~Ray · 06-26-2003, 12:28 AM

interesting...

eroswebmaster · 06-26-2003, 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

If a psychiatrist did that in real life it would be rape, so how is this any different?

It's not real?

It's fantasy?

Dude I'm all out of guesses ;)

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:29 AM

I don't think so, no.

SpaceAce · 06-26-2003, 12:29 AM

I mentioned it before when the Hun wouldn't list it for me. The key word is "simulated", though. It's not real, so who cares? 1/2 of the porn sites out there "simulate" the gross abuse of women. Some glorify tricking them or gagging them or hurting them. If anything, I bet Hypnotrick is less rough on the models than some other sites I can think of.

SpaceAce

WiredGuy · 06-26-2003, 12:29 AM

How is it different that BDSM or torture sites? If you punched a girl on the street you would similiarly get arrested. The key fact here is that the girls concented to doing these sex acts when they were coherent and the rest is acting.

WG

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

It's not real?

It's fantasy?

Dude I'm all out of guesses ;)

I know it's fantasy.

Fantasy rape scenarios.

Here's a quote from the tour:

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Within 10 minutes, she was under hypnosis and I was having my way with her! Within 10 minutes, she was under hypnosis and I was having my way with her! I wish you guys could have fucked her too

~Ray · 06-26-2003, 12:32 AM

Is simulated child porn illegal? If so, then I would guess that simulated rape would be also... but I'm sure they ran their site by a lawyer and have something in their discalimers to cover their asses.

StuartD · 06-26-2003, 12:32 AM

Guy walks into a bedroom, and lies down on a bed with a really hot women and screws her brains out...

what you don't see is the cameras, lights, camera men.. props.... studio behind them.

Uhhm.... isn't every single shoot done on every single website "simulated" ? I mean, there's a real good chance that the two people in front of the camera are just "acting" like they've known each other for a while, ya know?

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
Is simulated child porn illegal? If so, then I would guess that simulated rape would be also... but I'm sure they ran their site by a lawyer and have something in their discalimers to cover their asses.

I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

True. But many people in this biz only care about getting money at any cost, they don't care about anything else. Who's processing that site?

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

Nope. I am going to vehemently disagree with you on this one.

The producers are Canadian, the owners are Canadian and Canada has some very specific and VERY strict laws, more so than the US, regarding content.

If this wasn't 100% kosher in Canada it wouldn't be up.

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
If anything, I bet Hypnotrick is less rough on the models than some other sites I can think of.

SpaceAce

True.

It is totally fake, and let me tell you some of these girls can't act for shit.

If you look as some bondage stuff, where the girls are tied up, beat up, spit on, etc., hypnotrick is actually less hardcore.

No one beleive it's real, but the fact is that this is a fantasy some guys have, and real or not they enjoy it.

We researched the legalities and repercutions of this content intensivly before releasing the site, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Captain Obvious · 06-26-2003, 12:37 AM

who processes for it?

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Captain Obvious
who processes for it?

Go to the join page and see.

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

I never said Hypno Trick is illegal, but it is definitely sketchy, and certainly profits off of rapists or wannabe rapists rape fantasies.

Unlike some other content that cultive the "taking advantage of a girl" fantasy, hypnotrick is quite soft on the girls. There's no beating, no spitting, etc.

I can find you many galleries or videos of girls being mistreated (for real).

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:39 AM

Seems to me it's along the same lines as simulated snuff films.

Much porn is simulated scenarios, but there is a big difference between simulating a lonely housewife fucking the plumber and simulating a girl being hypnotized and taken advantage of and fucked. In real life, the first scenario is legal, the second is not.

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Go to the join page and see.

I did and it didn't show who unless you enter your personal info first.

StuartD · 06-26-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Go to the join page and see.

shame on you... go and use common sense on gfy people. You should know better

GrimShawn · 06-26-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2's woman
lil2rich4u2 beats me....

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

shame on you... go and use common sense on gfy people. You should know better

Use some common sense yourself and you'll quickly see the join page doesn't indicate a processor unless you are willing to enter your personal info and then proceed.

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]

Unlike some other content that cultive the "taking advantage of a girl" fantasy, hypnotrick is quite soft on the girls. There's no beating, no spitting, etc.

I can find you many galleries or videos of girls being mistreated (for real).

Taking advantage of someone while they're hypnotized is still rape, whether you spit on them or not. It is non-consensual sex.

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

I did and it didn't show who unless you enter your personal info first.

And you can't make some up?

Gman.357 · 06-26-2003, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Nope. I am going to vehemently disagree with you on this one.

The producers are Canadian, the owners are Canadian and Canada has some very specific and VERY strict laws, more so than the US, regarding content.

If this wasn't 100% kosher in Canada it wouldn't be up.

Maybe in Canada, only simulated rape that contains simulated violence draws any attention?

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

Taking advantage of someone while they're hypnotized is still rape, whether you spit on them or not. It is non-consensual sex.

So is all bondage content and borderline violent content illegal? Or you're saying that you have a moral problem with the site?

I can perfectly understand a moral problem, but if you want to get into legalities, that's another issue.

NickB. · 06-26-2003, 12:44 AM

Simulated, that's it! No problem

~Ray · 06-26-2003, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

And you can't make some up?

You're sneaky...

...and no, I'm not stalking you. We're in the same threads...

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:45 AM

I never said I thought it was illegal, but it is certainly sketchy.

StuartD · 06-26-2003, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
And you can't make some up?

exactly... pretty simple. I went there, 1.5 mins later I found out it's membertrust.com

wasn't overly difficult.

Captain Obvious · 06-26-2003, 12:46 AM

I ended up here

http://www.inicient.com/partners.php

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Maybe in Canada, only simulated rape that contains simulated violence draws any attention?

Sigh. Canadian laws have been posted on this board before.

There is no Miller test.

There are no community standards.

There is a list of what you cannot do. Degrading to women is on the list.

This is not degrading to women, nor is it akin to rape.

And it's all some (sometimes really bad) acting.

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

And you can't make some up?

sure I just thought with the guy from the company posting in here he might just say instead. It's who I thought it was, Paycom, since they don't have many standards as to what they will allow.

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Maybe in Canada, only simulated rape that contains simulated violence draws any attention?

Have you seen a full video from hypnotrick? Do you realize that with some different text on the tour, some different video editing, the girl could actually go to the Dr. to get hypnotised AND have sex with him? we could call it hypnosex.

The fact of the matter is the content if perfectly legal.

Some people had moral objections with Bangbus you know... doesn't change the fact that it's legal, funny and it's good content.

Captain Obvious · 06-26-2003, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

exactly... pretty simple. I went there, 1.5 mins later I found out it's membertrust.com

wasn't overly difficult.

and you called me stupid

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by AdvertisingSex

You're sneaky...

...and no, I'm not stalking you. We're in the same threads...

LOL!!

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]

So is all bondage content and borderline violent content illegal? Or you're saying that you have a moral problem with the site?

I can perfectly understand a moral problem, but if you want to get into legalities, that's another issue.

Yes, it is mostly a moral issue.

I'm a pornographer just like you, and I profit by selling people videos of other people having sex, but the scenarios that I sell are legal in real life and in video simulations, whereas hypno trick would be rape in real life, although may still be legal to simulate on video.

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

sure I just thought with the guy from the company posting in here he might just say instead. It's who I thought it was, Paycom, since they don't have many standards as to what they will allow.

Oh give me a break.

Visa sets the standards and anything they haven't seen and approved doesn't get processed, or did you miss the last three months of last year?

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Oh give me a break.

Visa sets the standards and anything they haven't seen and approved doesn't get processed, or did you miss the last three months of last year?

That's the same company that's processing for meatholes.com

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

Yes, it is mostly a moral issue.

Then I can't say anything more, because I respect that.

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 12:52 AM

OH man I finally saw the parachutes banner!!!!!

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]

Then I can't say anything more, because I respect that.

It is kind of funny when pornographers like me claim to have morals, but there are certain lines that we all have.

I know you're not raping any of these girls, but it is still sketchy subject matter to be running a business around.

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

It is kind of funny when pornographers like me claim to have morals, but there are certain lines that we all have.

I know you're not raping any of these girls, but it is still sketchy subject matter to be running a business around.

I agree with you man. I have no doubt that it's legal. I just hate that the crazy ass conservatives and religious freaks use the more extreme stuff and themes as ammo to put us all out of biz.

laura · 06-26-2003, 12:58 AM

wait! who actually thinks that its real hypnosis ? does anyone actually think that shit is real?

why dont you look at www.hypnogirls.com to see a real hypnotist

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

It is kind of funny when pornographers like me claim to have morals, but there are certain lines that we all have.

I know you're not raping any of these girls, but it is still sketchy subject matter to be running a business around.

Well it's legal, nobody gets hurt, it's not like we're selling crack.

Obviously, it has a shock value to it, and it's what makes people interested in it, even though they know it is poorly faked.

Some people are ok with it, some people are not, and we respect that.

You probably think that some bondage sites are borderline too, while some people are ok with it. Bottom line is, it is legal, and people will promote it

Jay_StandAhead · 06-26-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by laura
wait! who actually thinks that its real hypnosis ? does anyone actually think that shit is real?

Nobody thinks it's real; can't you read?

Jesus.

Kimmykim · 06-26-2003, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

I agree with you man. I have no doubt that it's legal. I just hate that the crazy ass conservatives and religious freaks use the more extreme stuff and themes as ammo to put us all out of biz.

Extreme is stuff like Rob Black, and you should be glad it's out there.

Makes them a target instead of you.

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

I agree with you man. I have no doubt that it's legal. I just hate that the crazy ass conservatives and religious freaks use the more extreme stuff and themes as ammo to put us all out of biz.

Well, when it comes to legality, I think porn has to be judged on a case by case basis, because there is so much variety in porn.

For example: There is a huge difference between Playboy and Max Hardcore. It's all porn, but some would obviously find some of it waaay more obscene than others.

So while I don't think Hypno Trick is doing anything to help the image of the porn industry, I don't think it will do much to hurt average joe blow pornographer either.

Digipimp · 06-26-2003, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Extreme is stuff like Rob Black, and you should be glad it's out there.

Makes them a target instead of you.

You know that's not true just as well as I do. Guys like Rob Black only make all of us targets. I'm not telling you what I think, I'm telling you what those dumbasses think. They always take the worst example and use that as a typical example to represent all of us. Those people don't rationalize any of it, you and I are just as bad as guys like him in their eyes, and while they will go after guys like that first, they will use guys like him as the basis for coming after all of us.

Brown Bear · 06-26-2003, 01:05 AM

Jay, do you think Hypno Trick is simulated rape?

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SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I mentioned it before when the Hun wouldn't list it for me. The key word is "simulated", though. It's not real, so who cares? 1/2 of the porn sites out there "simulate" the gross abuse of women. Some glorify tricking them or gagging them or hurting them. If anything, I bet Hypnotrick is less rough on the models than some other sites I can think of. SpaceAce

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Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Seems to me it's along the same lines as simulated snuff films. Much porn is simulated scenarios, but there is a big difference between simulating a lonely housewife fucking the plumber and simulating a girl being hypnotized and taken advantage of and fucked. In real life, the first scenario is legal, the second is not. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

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