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Old 07-15-2003, 08:27 AM   #1
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N Korea 'on path to war with US'

Place your bets, how many months before the start of the war? . Also, if you want to laugh, go see http://www.korea-dpr.com/ The official North Korean website

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William Perry, who served as defence secretary under former President Bill Clinton, told the Washington Post newspaper the key issue was that North Korea appeared to have begun reprocessing spent nuclear fuel rods, a key step towards building up its nuclear arsenal.



"I have thought for some months that if the North Koreans moved toward processing, then we are on a path toward war," he said.

The warning came as Chinese envoys held talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il amid mounting concerns that North Korea is accelerating its nuclear programme as part of a stand-off with the United States.

The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes, in Beijing, says China is making it clear the purpose of the visit is to get North Korea back to the negotiating table as soon as possible.

Situation 'out of control'

Mr Perry, who has retained a strong interest in Korean issues, said he believed Pyongyang could soon have enough nuclear devices to test one, or sell material to terrorists.


Time is running out, and each month the problem gets more dangerous
William Perry
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The situation with North Korea "was manageable six months ago if we did the right things. But we haven't done the right things," the Democrat politician added.

He said he had not criticised President George W Bush's North Korea policy up to now because he hoped the problem was going to be acted on, but he said "time is running out, and each month the problem gets more dangerous".

Reports in recent days suggested the North had finished reprocessing its spent nuclear fuel - the final step in the creation of weapons-grade plutonium for atom bombs. But South Korea says this has not been confirmed.

Talks 'critical'

China has been under pressure to use its influence, as one of the North's closest allies, to help broker a negotiated solution to the crisis, which has destabilised the region since last October.

North Korea's nuclear programme is creating increasing tension
Chinese Deputy Foreign Minister Dai Bingguo handed a letter from President Hu Jintao to Mr Kim, North Korea's official news agency said, and the two "conversed in a cordial and friendly atmosphere".

China brokered talks between the US, North Korea and itself in April.

South Korea hopes China can persuade the Pyongyang regime to take part in further peace negotiations, involving regional powers and the United States.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Kong Quan said: "We adopt an open attitude to multiple parties being involved. But we believe what's most critical right now is to continue the process of the talks."

Chinese leverage

But North Korea, which blames Washington for provoking the crisis, has insisted on one-to-one talks with the US alone, something Washington is reluctant to contemplate.

The Japanese national daily Asahi Shimbun reported on Tuesday that Mr Dai urged Mr Kim to accept multilateral talks including Japan, South Korea and China, according to unnamed Chinese sources.

The North Korean leader resisted Japan's participation, but was open to South Korea's, the newspaper said.

Diplomats say China offers the best hope of a negotiated settlement, not least because North Korea depends on China for the bulk of its food and fuel.

China has an interest in the issue, because it does not want a nuclear-armed North Korea in its backyard, but neither does it want Kim Jong-il's regime to collapse, which could result in millions of refugees flooding over its border.
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N. Korea is no different than any other child who needs to be slapped.
They talk and talk and talk about hitting their daddy but when its time to do it, they'll realize just how big daddy is and run away.
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only time will tell. I bet Bush camp has already in the works in the chess board.
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thanks for posting that. i was wondering what was going on.
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N. Korea is no different than any other child who needs to be slapped.
They talk and talk and talk about hitting their daddy but when its time to do it, they'll realize just how big daddy is and run away.
the childs your talking about has a 5000+ years old history and Daddy only 250
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the childs your talking about has a 5000+ years old history and Daddy only 250

daddy will still spank that ass
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the childs your talking about has a 5000+ years old history and Daddy only 250
is a 5000+ year history of living like savages really something to be proud of?
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is a 5000+ year history of living like savages really something to be proud of?
Culture is obviously not your forte....

Go get a Big Mack fat slob.
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is a 5000+ year history of living like savages really something to be proud of?


time to llay waste to North Korea uncle George W!!!
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Culture is obviously not your forte....

Go get a Big Mack fat slob.
wow, the brilliance shines through this post.



god, I'd love to see the sad life this joker leads!
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is a 5000+ year history of living like savages really something to be proud of?
History books was made by Daddy
btw taking over people in africa to make them slaves, bombing civilians with nuclear bombs etc.. is that something to be proud of?
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btw taking over people in africa to make them slaves, bombing civilians with nuclear bombs etc.. is that something to be proud of?
why yes, it is.
Ask the decendents of slaves if they'd like to be sent back to africa. WWII saw the killing of civilians of all sides. You must be from one of those countries that don't matter, pretending that winning WWII is a bad thing.
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Ask the decendents of slaves if they'd like to be sent back to africa.
wow, the brilliance shines through this post
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Ask the decendents of slaves if they'd like to be sent back to africa.
12dicks, ever heard of Liberia???/

I think it is in the news now....

Again, the only culture you have is probably .. " pot".






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12dicks, ever heard of Liberia???/

I think it is in the news now....

Again, the only culture you have is probably .. " pot".


yes, I've heard of liberia. seeing it proves my point.

sad little boy.
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wow, the brilliance shines through this post
hahaha. simpleton. if *you* would like to apologize for the US's past, go ahead, I feel no compulsion until every other country does the same.

god, I can't wait until school starts again!
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12dicks, ever heard of Liberia???/

I think it is in the news now....

Again, the only culture you have is probably .. " pot".

how many people have been killed in Liberia in the last two decades?

how many child soldiers fighting?

how many war crimes charges is Charles Taylor facing?

how many Blacks in the US are screaming "take me to Liberia now"?

is the failing public school system in Quebec why you want so much to break off from the rest of Canada so bad?
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why yes, it is.
Ask the decendents of slaves if they'd like to be sent back to africa. WWII saw the killing of civilians of all sides. You must be from one of those countries that don't matter, pretending that winning WWII is a bad thing.
I think what he meant was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which was pretty useless since Germany was already defeated.

It was one of those "Look mr Stalin! We may not have fought along in WWII but we are pretty strong too, don't you think?" moments.
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why yes, it is.
Ask the decendents of slaves if they'd like to be sent back to africa. WWII saw the killing of civilians of all sides. You must be from one of those countries that don't matter, pretending that winning WWII is a bad thing.
the majority would probably tell you yes, they would like to be sent back to africa
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I think what he meant was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which was pretty useless since Germany was already defeated.

It was one of those "Look mr Stalin! We may not have fought along in WWII but we are pretty strong too, don't you think?" moments.
in that case, he's an idiot.
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the majority would probably tell you yes, they would like to be sent back to africa
um, sure. ok.
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why yes, it is.
Ask the decendents of slaves if they'd like to be sent back to africa.

Simpleton?

so do I really have to explain to you how DUMB was that comment?! Really?!

What you said is the equivalent of saying... Well... I kidnapped and raped those kids... However... ask any of them if they would rather go live back with their parents, where they have no food, they get beaten... etc.. Even if its true, that will not get you a "non-guilty" sentence!


and the worse part is you say you are proud of slavery


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is the failing public school system in Quebec why you want so much to break off from the rest of Canada so bad?
Pleasurepays you are a dumb people !!!

Show me on what you make you claim or buttplug your stinking racist mouthpiece.
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the majority would probably tell you yes, they would like to be sent back to africa

i doubt that. they would stay here so they can go to college for free, get free money from the government, and other shit they feel they have earned cause of this countrys history. besides if they went back to africa, theres no white people for them to call racist.
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the majority would probably tell you yes, they would like to be sent back to africa
nap they may want to go back to Africa but I can tell you now they won't last 5 minutes. Why? firstly they can't speak the language anymore. 2nd they will not be able to survive living in mud huts, no food, no money, no work, AIDS out of control, violence all around, no Mc Donalds etc etc

If you have never been to Africa and visited Kenya, Tanzania, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe to name only a few then you won't understand what I'm talking about
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What you said is the equivalent of saying... Well... I kidnapped and raped those kids... However... ask any of them if they would rather go live back with their parents, where they have no food, they get beaten... etc.. Even if its true, that will not get you a "non-guilty" sentence!


and the worse part is you say you are proud of slavery
silly liberal.
nice try but its really like saying,"Well... someone a few hundred years ago, enslaved these people at a time when slavery was still a fact of life all over the world and I'm not going to feel bad about it."

You America haters crack me up. you know every evil deed committed by the US but think the rest of the world is innocent of any wrong doing.
why do you think I make fun of you instead of taking you seriously?
your childish point of view deserves to be made fun of.
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Pleasurepays you are a dumb people !!!

Show me on what you make you claim or buttplug your stinking racist mouthpiece.
wow, more intelligence.
Pleasurepays must have hit it on the head.
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silly liberal.
nice try but its really like saying,"Well... someone a few hundred years ago, enslaved these people at a time when slavery was still a fact of life all over the world and I'm not going to feel bad about it."

You America haters crack me up. you know every evil deed committed by the US but think the rest of the world is innocent of any wrong doing.
why do you think I make fun of you instead of taking you seriously?
your childish point of view deserves to be made fun of.
they are just upset cause our country has done in 250 years more than theirs has in thousands... thats why they are haters->
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the majority would probably tell you yes, they would like to be sent back to africa
Unless I'm mistaken, more people immigrate to the US from Africa each year than the other way around.
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silly liberal.
nice try but its really like saying,"Well... someone a few hundred years ago, enslaved these people at a time when slavery was still a fact of life all over the world and I'm not going to feel bad about it."

You America haters crack me up. you know every evil deed committed by the US but think the rest of the world is innocent of any wrong doing.
why do you think I make fun of you instead of taking you seriously?
your childish point of view deserves to be made fun of.


"your childish point of view deserves to be made fun of."

Now thats weird, I was going to write the same thing! wow!

AS for the rest of your comment... hhmm.. who are you talking to? Your inner voices? The rest of the world innocent? I know every evil deed committed by the united states!?? what?!

Dude, calm down, I was just responding to that dumb comment of yours regarding slavery...

As for slavery being a fact of life? Good God... I needed that laugh!!

Sure why not... I was not the only one doing it mr the Judge!

So Islamic nations that kill those who oppose power.. its ok? Since its a fact of life over there!? Everyone is doing it!?

oh p.s. which other nations had slaves with proportions similar to the US?
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They talk and talk and talk about hitting their daddy but when its time to do it, they'll realize just how big daddy is and run away.
Hmm... 1951 'big daddy' couldn´t scare them. And since China playes NK´s big brother, maybe they have no reason to be scared. Especially if they realy have nuclear weapons that can reach the states. I don´t think they would hesitat to use them.

Ups, now i´m scared
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oh p.s. which other nations had slaves with proportions similar to the US?

germany.... oh wait.. they just killed the jews didnt they
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Big daddy and UK are killing Black people in Africa with Aids, Ebola and Virus that kill only black people. Why would they go back to africa? Apartaid was only 10 years ago!
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"your childish point of view deserves to be made fun of."

Now thats weird, I was going to write the same thing! wow!

AS for the rest of your comment... hhmm.. who are you talking to? Your inner voices? The rest of the world innocent? I know every evil deed committed by the united states!?? what?!

Dude, calm down, I was just responding to that dumb comment of yours regarding slavery...

As for slavery being a fact of life? Good God... I needed that laugh!!

Sure why not... I was not the only one doing it mr the Judge!

So Islamic nations that kill those who oppose power.. its ok? Since its a fact of life over there!? Everyone is doing it!?

oh p.s. which other nations had slaves with proportions similar to the US?
ahahahaha, another imbicile who knows nothing of world history outside of the liberal trash he reads about the bad US of A.
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Old 07-15-2003, 10:47 AM   #40
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Big daddy and UK are killing Black people in Africa with Aids, Ebola and Virus that kill only black people. Why would they go back to africa? Apartaid was only 10 years ago!
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Big daddy and UK are killing Black people in Africa with Aids, Ebola and Virus that kill only black people. Why would they go back to africa? Apartaid was only 10 years ago!
no, wait. I'm not done.
ahahahahahahahahahaha

son, you've got a very sad life ahead of you.
hopefully, you've got at least 4 yrs of highschool to complete. it may give you a chance.
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Culture is obviously not your forte....

Go get a Big Mack fat slob.
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oh p.s. which other nations had slaves with proportions similar to the US?
Lets see a few off the top of my head...

Many parts of the British Empire until 1833.

Most Spanish ruled South America.

Russia until 1851.

Most of the Barbary Coast states up until the late 1800's.

Most pre-colonial african cultures.

Most of the "classical" ancient world.

Much of Europe pre 1400's.

Slavery is still legal and practiced in Mauritania and Sudan. http://www.iabolish.org/
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no, wait. I'm not done.
ahahahahahahahahahaha

son, you've got a very sad life ahead of you.
hopefully, you've got at least 4 yrs of highschool to complete. it may give you a chance.
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ahahahaha, another imbicile who knows nothing of world history outside of the liberal trash he reads about the bad US of A.

is that the best you got??

hahahahha total imbecile hahahaha ahaha, I can't wait until school starts again! !???

Are you a bot?

Come up with some facts... and we shall talk further....

what's funny btw is you never directly respond to people's post... but keep having this monologue with yourself.... "you are a USA Hater, you are ignorant, go back to school...!'
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A large military presence required in Iraq and another high price tag for a war make US involvement in North Korea unlikely. The US military is not real big on manpower and effectively a two theater war would be tough on active personnel. Also,a lot of smart-bomb munitions were used in Iraq that need to be replaced. I also don't think the US will use more of it's political capital in another war so close to the previous one. Major combat activities of the type that can be called a war are usually only fought once every decade or two.
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what's funny btw is you never directly respond to people's post... but keep having this monologue with yourself.... "you are a USA Hater, you are ignorant, go back to school...!'
if you're to simple to see my responses, I can only laugh.
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You are an old frustrated goat:

Even the interviewer says so. Get a life before you die.

HaHaHaJaHaHaHa....
hahaha, call your betters whatever it takes to get you through the day.
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Lets see a few off the top of my head...

Many parts of the British Empire until 1833.

Most Spanish ruled South America.

Russia until 1851.

Most of the Barbary Coast states up until the late 1800's.

Most pre-colonial african cultures.

Most of the "classical" ancient world.

Much of Europe pre 1400's.

Slavery is still legal and practiced in Mauritania and Sudan. http://www.iabolish.org/

ok now, so if someone read your post, they can conclude that if in 2003, a nation practicing slavery is no big deal, becaue throught out history.. it has been done!??

You know, ALOT of kings through out history have killed thousands , somethimes millions of their own people... Even if alot of them were doing it... doesnt mean it was ok


right from wrong as always been there... the only difference is back then.. it was easier to get away with it!!!
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no, wait. I'm not done.
ahahahahahahahahahaha

son, you've got a very sad life ahead of you.
hopefully, you've got at least 4 yrs of highschool to complete. it may give you a chance.
My life is good and i'll make more money that you never made cause your an idiot, so Keep my Clickthrutraffic's check and put it in your ass you dumbass
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