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Old 07-16-2003, 01:34 PM   #51
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It seems possible to get around the checksum. If you check out the lower left corner of http://www.bannedstuff.com/ they've got a working cgi version. I checked a few pages through it and the PR seemed right.

http://scripts.xrenoder.com/googpr.php also seems to work sometimes.
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:31 PM   #52
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Ok, here is what I found, so perhaps someone could get some advantage of it.

checksum dependency:

navigator = NO
IP = NO
hour = NO
server IP = NO
domain = YES
page size = YES ??? after changing my page, the checksum changed
page modification date = YES ??? same as the page size.

The method I figured it would be fast to do it:

You will need the googlenav.dll (download the google toolbat .cab file from Google and extract the googlenav.dll from it.

If you dissasemble googlenav.dll (breaking the terms of service... but who the fuck cares?) you can see that it imports several other modules:
Wininet.dll
CRYPT32.dll
It includes several more, but these are the important.
The googlenav.dll will export these functions:
DllCanUnloadNow
DllGetClassObject
DllInfoA
DllRegisterServer
DllUpdated2
DllUpdated
DllVersionStringA
DllVersionStringW
As you can see, it does not export the PR nor the crc.
That is quite logical if you take in mind that it uses the WININET.dll HttpSendRequestA function. If you take a look at the WININET.dll imported functions, it almost starts it's own browser.
The CRYPT32.dll will use CryptQueryObject to help making the crc code.

Now the glitch is that you have a dll that will query by itself the page rank and some other info, so it could be included in any other browser or program and give the same results. The best method I guess it's to do that is just adding this dll to a program that makes page queries and then consults the dll.
The page rank is a value returned in pure text, so it could be captured by the browser (page rank checker program), or just the output on the googlenav.dll could be redirected to the program that checks the PRs. If you capture the reply, you will not violate google's license because you would not need to modify their dll. If you decide to modify the dll and make it redirect the output to something else, you will be breaking google's license (but who cares?). In any case, if you are about to modify the googlenav.dll (and break google's license) then it's just a better idea to modify the WININET.dll statements and make it load your own modification of wininet.dll, so it would modify several of the query methods. After all, the WININET.dll is used to comunicate with google's servers once the crc is calculated, so make it comunicate with your program instead of google's server.

Hope this helps you. I know almost nothing about windows because I'm unix geek, so I can't help much more. If you know any programmer familiar with windows internals, I think he could take some advantage of this post.
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:32 PM   #53
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http://www.abc-actu.com/abc-pr.html


... doesn´t work, and my firewall notified that it tried to connect to some IP during program start.

... and no, I am not interested in in the $5/1000 request offer, this way you guys will get the good domains first, I am not that stupid ... LOL !!
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:33 PM   #54
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:46 PM   #55
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ok heres what ive come up with so far seems pretty easy

download a http sniffer like this one
http://www.effetech.com/sniffer/

write a simple program to open all the urls you want to obtain pr ... (dont forget to turn images/hahahahahahahahahaha/etc off so you dont waste bandwidth/get popups etc)

once this is done save the http sniffer log

write a simple program to parse log file to extract urls for pr query

execute url and save url/pr to csv file
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:54 PM   #56
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ok heres what ive come up with so far seems pretty easy

download a http sniffer like this one
http://www.effetech.com/sniffer/

write a simple program to open all the urls you want to obtain pr ... (dont forget to turn images/hahahahahahahahahaha/etc off so you dont waste bandwidth/get popups etc)

once this is done save the http sniffer log

write a simple program to parse log file to extract urls for pr query

execute url and save url/pr to csv file
you are the man ... even I can code that ... fucking congrats !!
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:05 PM   #57
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hahahahaha = j avascrip t

it might help to connect via proxy so they dont get the same ip all the time

i could program it if your interested or im sure you could find many ppl who would be capable
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:11 PM   #58
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it might help to connect via proxy so they dont get the same ip all the time

i could program it if your interested or im sure you could find many ppl who would be capable
Google detects your proxy and real IP.

If you have got the forbidden page when the checksum is not correct, you can see some crap stuff at the end of the page. It's a base64_encoded text, so use base64_decode("the-google-encrypted reply here)

It will give you the same think what you get if you put a sniffer. It's a complete sniff of your request.

If you connect in raw to the PR servers, you can see that they use a custom coded Google Web Server (GWS)

In any case, they did not blacklist my IP after 5k consecutive queries
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:38 PM   #59
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ok heres what ive come up with so far seems pretty easy

download a http sniffer like this one
http://www.effetech.com/sniffer/

write a simple program to open all the urls you want to obtain pr ... (dont forget to turn images/hahahahahahahahahaha/etc off so you dont waste bandwidth/get popups etc)

once this is done save the http sniffer log

write a simple program to parse log file to extract urls for pr query

execute url and save url/pr to csv file
you don't even need the sniffer

you also don't want ie starting new instances- so are you automating ie or hitting the urls some other way? automation is only simple if you know what you're doing
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:48 PM   #60
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you don't even need the sniffer

you also don't want ie starting new instances- so are you automating ie or hitting the urls some other way? automation is only simple if you know what you're doing
use winapi to open a new window... when the window opens you are returned a handle to the window which you can use to either change the url or close the window when your done with the query

for example you could open 4 windows each of which cycles through a bunch of urls
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Old 07-16-2003, 04:13 PM   #61
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use winapi to open a new window... when the window opens you are returned a handle to the window which you can use to either change the url or close the window when your done with the query

for example you could open 4 windows each of which cycles through a bunch of urls
just figured out how to do it with automation in 7 lines of code.

popping and dropping windows will kill you on load times.

need to do this against 1 million+ urls with no display window. has to be automation.

btw, i'd be happy to provide my code to someone who wants to trade something for it.
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:58 PM   #62
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Old 07-19-2003, 05:14 PM   #63
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I just finished reversing google's checksum algo, which means I could make you guys a program that checks a bunch of urls in the background instead of using a bunch of IE's and the google toolbar (not sure what you're doing now)

PM me or respond here if you're interested and I'll start working on it. I don't need it for anything, so if nobody wants it, I'll just leave it alone and won't waste anymore time.
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Old 07-19-2003, 06:53 PM   #64
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..Or AIM me at 'jcsn3409'--didn't know pm's were disabled.
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Old 07-19-2003, 07:12 PM   #65
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Old 07-19-2003, 07:36 PM   #66
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Downloaded icq and have no idea how to use it, but you guys can contact me at that too: 201430673
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Old 07-19-2003, 08:36 PM   #67
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Oh come on now, you have got to be joking about this being hard or "being able to make it but not show you made it".
come on guys.

http://4retards.com/pagerank.pl
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:05 PM   #68
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I didn't say it was hard. Posting a screenshot of the program wouldn't prove anything, so I didn't.

Cute perl script.
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:05 PM   #69
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Oh come on now, you have got to be joking about this being hard or "being able to make it but not show you made it".
come on guys.

http://4retards.com/pagerank.pl
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CRC32
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:09 PM   #70
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I didn't say it was hard. Posting a screenshot of the program wouldn't prove anything, so I didn't.

Cute perl script.
Thanks.

You should make 2 versions. a free version that does only one url at a time, and then the paid one that does a full list. showing people what you have works will sell a lot more.
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Old 07-19-2003, 09:22 PM   #71
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Thanks.

You should make 2 versions. a free version that does only one url at a time, and then the paid one that does a full list. showing people what you have works will sell a lot more.
Yeah, I was going to do something like that, but it could just be automated with some simple API. And I don't really "have" anything yet because I was waiting to see if anyone wanted it before starting the actual list checker. What I have now just generates the checksum for the URL--the only part of the list checker that poses any sort of challenge--but it's useless.

Here's a screenshot of it and all it's glory if you want to see it though: http://www.sunday.ru/pottery/prview.jpg

Generates the URL as you type and, like I said, doesn't really prove much since if I really wanted to I could put all that information in manually. 8-T
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Old 07-20-2003, 05:49 AM   #72
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heh everyone shut up pretty quickly on that one
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Old 07-20-2003, 11:55 AM   #74
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could be the default for urls not checked yet
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-1 when it hasn't been checked yet, hehe

edit: Richard wins 8-(
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btw how fast is it?
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Where can I get a big list to try it with? Did that list in like a second. 8-T
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Nice, nice... So, when does it become available?
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:24 PM   #81
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Just tried a list Dildozer gave me with one thread going and it went about 5/sec, but now I know what needs to be improved. (didn't think lists would be so enormous)

I'll probably make it use a couple more threads to speed it up a bit.

And, as I've found, having no stop button is terribly inconvenient--can't believe I forgot that, lol.

So, once I give it a couple more threads, a stop button () and optimize a couple little things for the big list size, it should be good to go.
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:25 PM   #82
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igneus, got paypal ?

... please answer my ICQ requests, I am going to buy it !
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:29 PM   #83
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You sent me icq requests? lol

How do I get them? I normally use aim 8-T

edit: and yes, paypal's great
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You sent me icq requests? lol

How do I get them? I normally use aim 8-T

edit: and yes, paypal's great
... well, you posted this UIN 201430673 ... and the nick says igneus ... so that´s not you ?
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... well, you posted this UIN 201430673 ... and the nick says igneus ... so that´s not you ?
nice sig lol
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nice sig lol
... did you sign up ??
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... did you sign up ??
won't work
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won't work
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... thanks igeus, could be some of the best $2500 I have spent this year ... excellent piece of software, you should rise the price now !!
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Igneus,

Was it 5 names per second now ? Or faster ?

Either way, looks good.
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It's roughly 5-8/sec now. Once I finish multithreading (starting that now), it should be closer to 30-40+/sec, depending on bandwidth.
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Works like a charm, excellent program and created by very talented guy. Ill vouch for that,

From what ive read up on and heard its not as easy to create as everyone had thought. At least for something similar to igneus'
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... put it this way, I picked up 3 PR6 domains yesterday within 30 min ... ssame stuff would have taken me days without this little proggy ... so is it worth it´s money, yes it is ...
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Works like a charm, excellent program and created by very talented guy. Ill vouch for that,

From what ive read up on and heard its not as easy to create as everyone had thought. At least for something similar to igneus'
actually it isnt that hard to do in any language.

Igneus: glad to see yer making some sales

The perl and now php versions we have went like hotcakes to the people we allowed to have it.
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Thanks nuclei

Quick update (last bit of spam )..I've started off the multithread version with 5 threads and it does about 850 domains/minute (~14/sec--a little less than I anticipated, hehe) now. Upping it to 10 threads didn't seem to have much effect, but it could just be my setup/bandwidth/etc--I'm still tweaking around with it.

The single thread one hangs out at around 5-8 domains/second.

I've been told to only get rid of a few copies, sooo that's what I'll do--icq me if you're still interested.

Thanks for the support funkmaster
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hey...if anyone has it, please post up the russian solution to this problem on a linux platform...thanks in advance ;-)
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