Jessica Lynch and Reuters - GoFuckYourself.com

theking · 07-31-2003, 06:56 AM

A free lance writer...wrote a story about the home coming of Jessica Lynch...which was a favorable and warm story about the home coming and the welcome she recieved.

Reuters asked the free lance writer if they could run her story...and she agreed. Reuters then rewrote her story (using only one line of the orginal story) and turned it into an America bashing story. The free lance writer then asked Reuters to remove her byline and Reuters refused to do so.

My point is...for those that are always portraying the American news media as being "biased" and "untruthful"...and that if Americans want "unbiased" and "truthful" reporting then pay attention to Reuters and the BBC. Well so much for "unbiased" and "truthful" reporting by Reuters.

I have stated before...I am of the opinion that all news media outlets have their own "biases" built into their stories.

This happened several days ago...so unfortunately I cannot find any links...maybe someone else can.

seven · 07-31-2003, 06:57 AM

url??

gothweb · 07-31-2003, 06:59 AM

That's pretty damn underhanded.

Sarah_Jayne · 07-31-2003, 07:00 AM

as a writer - it happens all the time. Once you sell your story you better be prepared to have it editted and changed to whatever they want.

oh, and Reuters and the BBC aren't the same thing.

theking · 07-31-2003, 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
as a writer - it happens all the time. Once you sell your story you better be prepared to have it editted and changed to whatever they want.

oh, and Reuters and the BBC aren't the same thing.

I did not say they are the same thing...and distinctly separated the two...but both are British outlets and both are "biased"...just as any other news outlet.

theking · 07-31-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by seven
url??

Read my post.

pudcat · 07-31-2003, 07:03 AM

The whole jessica lynch thing was setup by the govt for a bit of brainwashing...

Sarah_Jayne · 07-31-2003, 07:04 AM

i still would like to see proof of this though

directfiesta · 07-31-2003, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by theking

Read my post.

No URL???

Like you say so well: proof????

TheKing cannot find a url of a few days ago... lol.

I read a few days ago on CNN that Jessica was in fact a tranny.... I have no url...

seven · 07-31-2003, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by theking
Read my post.

When I read it sounds to me like a made-up story by a Bush-lover

so again, url please!

theking · 07-31-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
as a writer - it happens all the time. Once you sell your story you better be prepared to have it editted and changed to whatever they want.

oh, and Reuters and the BBC aren't the same thing.

Not being a free lance writer...I do not know what is SOP...but it would seem to me that a rewrite should only be done with the original authors approval...and if not...it would seem to me that if the orignal author asks for their name to be removed from the re-write that should be SOP.

BRISK · 07-31-2003, 07:14 AM

The whole Jessica Lynch fiasco is amazingly similar to the fake Sgt. William Schumann that they created in the movie Wag The Dog.

She's the token martyr.

and what the fuck was she doing in Iraq anyways? She looks like an innocent little kitten.

theking · 07-31-2003, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by seven

When I read it sounds to me like a made-up story by a Bush-lover so again, url please!

Again...read my post...the story is several days old and I cannot find a link. FYI...I am not a fan of the President...did not vote for the President and will not vote for the President.

I am sure that others are aware of the story and will verify it...if they read this thread.

jimmyf · 07-31-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by pudcat
The whole jessica lynch thing was setup by the govt for a bit of brainwashing...

don't which fits you best ignoramus or imbecile.

swedguy · 07-31-2003, 07:41 AM

Here's the article:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030722/80/e4otn.html

swedguy · 07-31-2003, 07:45 AM

...and some more info about the article:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...3329-6315r.htm
http://www.chronwatch.com/editorial/...y.asp?aid=3601
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07252003...nists/1452.htm

theking · 07-31-2003, 07:50 AM

This is apparently the original story as written by Deanna Wrenn.

?This is
a part of history'

ELIZABETH -- Jessica Lynch looked and sounded great, residents and visitors said after she rode through town on a Mustang convertible.

But many wanted to get a longer glimpse of the 20-year-old Army private they consider a hero.

"She looked absolutely beautiful," said Angie Kinder, who came from Huntington with her two girls, Grace, 4, and Caroline, 1. "I expected her to look worse."

People started lining up along Elizabeth's main street, W.Va. 14, as early as 8 a.m. Tuesday. By the time Lynch rode down the street, swamped by photographers and smiling, people were ready to see her.

They crowded sidewalks and waved flags, screaming "Welcome home Jessi!" and cheering. The Wirt County High School band played, hoping Lynch's motorcade might stop for a minute.

Instead, Lynch was out of sight within seconds.

"That was fast," said Tracy Vanoy, who came from Pennsboro in Ritchie County to see Lynch. "She looked good, though. She looked happy."

Elizabeth resident Juanita Lockhart came out to show her support for Lynch.

"I wish they would have stopped for just a minute," she said.

Even in the brief moment Lynch passed by, many eyes teared up, and people said they were in the presence of a hero.

Barbara Fritz drove from Wellsburg in Brooke County to see Lynch. Although she only caught a glimpse for a moment, Fritz said she was glad she made the trip.

"She's a beautiful girl," Fritz said. "It was well worth it."

After Lynch headed toward her home in Palestine, the crowd dispersed into the street and was gone within an hour.

Residents here are hoping life starts to get back to normal now that Lynch is back.

Paula Burton, who is a second cousin of Lynch, said she won't go see the family until the media and hordes of people leave.

"We'll just wait until things calm down," she said.

http://www.dailymail.com/news/News/2003072318/

This is the story that was rewritten by Reuters and was printed under Deanna Wrenn's byline.

By Deanna Wrenn
PALESTINE, W.Va. (Reuters) - Jessica Lynch, the injured Army private whose ordeal in Iraq was hyped into a story of U.S. heroism under fire, returned home on Tuesday to the embrace of loved-ones and cheers from flag-waving well-wishers.

"I had no idea so many people knew I was missing," the 20-year-old supply clerk said a brief prepared statement that represented her first public remarks since she was captured by Iraqi forces on March 23 near the city of Nassiriya and rescued by U.S. commandos on April 1.

Sitting in a wheelchair before a large American flag, dressed in an Army beret and uniform, Lynch expressed sorrow over the deaths of 11 comrades including another female soldier, PFC Lori Ann Piestewa of Tuba City, Arizona, all killed when their unit fell into an ambush.

"She was my best friend," said Lynch. "Lori will always remain in my heart."

Lynch, who has been awarded the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart and the Prisoner of War medals, arrived in this Appalachian community aboard an Army Blackhawk helicopter with her family. She later rode a red Mustang convertible on a five-mile trek to her home while hundreds waved flags, donned yellow ribbons and held up posters of the young soldier.

West Virginia Gov. Bob Wise called it "a homecoming for the world." Edith Kidd, a well-wisher from Buffalo, West Virginia, agreed: "People from all over the country and all over the world are here. It's the second Fourth of July."

Lynch was in a 507th Maintenance Company convoy when her unit was ambushed. A 90-minute firefight ensued.

But she became a national hero after media reports quoted unnamed U.S. officials as saying she fought fiercely before being captured.

In the end, Army investigators concluded that Lynch was injured when her Humvee crashed into another vehicle in the convoy after being hit by a rocket-propelled grenade.

The U.S. military also released video taken during what was portrayed as a daring rescue by special forces who raided the Iraqi hospital where she was treated. Iraqi doctors said later the U.S. operation had been over-dramatized.

Lynch has been quoted as saying she can remember nothing of the ambush or the rescue, and her remarks on Tuesday shed no new light on the episode.

"The failure here was that the news media got to thinking the government could be trusted to reflect reality," said Carolyn Marvin, professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication.

"It no longer matters in America whether something is true or false. The population has been conditioned to accept anything: sentimental stories, lies, atomic bomb threats," said John MacArthur, the publisher of Harper's magazine.

A spokesman for U.S. Central Command in Florida had no comment when asked about assertions that the heroism tale was seen by some critics as government propaganda.

The Washington Post, first to report the heroic version of Lynch's story, was criticized by its ombudsman for publishing information that was "wrong in its most compelling aspects."

The Lynch story also exposed CBS News to criticism after the network offered Lynch a movie deal while trying to persuade her to give an interview about her experiences. On Sunday, CBS Chairman and Chief Executive Leslie Moonves acknowledged CBS News probably erred in offering the deal.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=3137668

Off hand this looks like it may be the only line used by Reuters from the original authors piece.

"For a long time, I had no idea so many people know I had been missing,"

theking · 07-31-2003, 08:18 AM

"Reuters defended its coverage yesterday after Ms. Wrenn's account appeared on the Wall Street Journal's Opinion Journal Web site.
"We always reserve the right to temper a story with copy from both sides of an issue to better service our global readership," Reuters said. "The advance story focused on the media controversy that has ensued since the rescue first took place. ... We feel strongly that our coverage of Private Lynch's return presents both sides of the issue fairly."

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...3329-6315r.htm

They definitely "tempered" the story written by Deanna Wrenn.

NelsonN · 07-31-2003, 09:22 AM

To TheKing,

Everyone praises google but don't seem to know how to use it. This baffles me. Next time your looking for a news article/story go to google.com and click on news and then enter relative keywords and you will get the latest and past news articles in seconds.

theking · 07-31-2003, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by NelsonN
To TheKing,

Everyone praises google but don't seem to know how to use it. This baffles me. Next time your looking for a news article/story go to google.com and click on news and then enter relative keywords and you will get the latest and past news articles in seconds.

My first search was brief...but when I was challenged about the story (by some of the same ones that usually challenge anything that I say and/or are fans of Reuters and the BBC as being "unbiased" and "objective" in their reporting) I did do a proper search...but the challengers have now went on their merry way to espouse some more of their BS in other threads.

seven · 07-31-2003, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by theking
and/or are fans of Reuters and the BBC as being "unbiased" and "objective" in their reporting)

Where is the "bias" in this re-written story by reuter?
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=3137668

xxxdesign-net · 07-31-2003, 10:43 AM

well Theking... it is true that it is misleading and is really unfair for Deanna Wrenn.... however, I dont see where that article manipulate the public ... since no one knows Deanna Wrenn.. (its not like they were cashing in on her credibility)

I also dont know where's the proof that Rueter is not objective?

theking · 07-31-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by seven

Where is the "bias" in this re-written story by reuter?
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=3137668

Since Reuters is using the byline of Deanna Wrenn...as being the author...the entirety of the article is untrue other than the one line that was actually written by Deanna Wrenn.

As for the bias the readers of the article can draw their own conclusions...including you. I view the article as being biased...but it is enough that they lied about who was the author of the story. Deanna Wrenn was not the author of the story...Reuters was and they laid the story at her feet and she is the one taking the heat for the story...and is being advised to sue Reuters...which she may or may not be able to do as I do not know what the SOP is for free lancing a story.

slackologist · 07-31-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by theking

Since Reuters is using the byline of Deanna Wrenn...as being the author...the entirety of the article is untrue other than the one line that was actually written by Deanna Wrenn.

As for the bias the readers of the article can draw their own conclusions...including you. I view the article as being biased...but it is enough that they lied about who was the author of the story. Deanna Wrenn was not the author of the story...Reuters was and they laid the story at her feet and she is the one taking the heat for the story...and is being advised to sue Reuters...which she may or may not be able to do as I do not know what the SOP is for free lancing a story.

I guess it all comes down to what you prefer to believe and anyway, do you really think a non U.S agency is going to be as patriotic and flag waving / non questioning about a subject such as this as you'd like? I do not.

slackologist · 07-31-2003, 11:10 AM

BTW, truthful reporting is about laying out all the facts and letting the reader/viewer decide for themselves what is the truth, not just presenting one side of the story and saying THIS IS THE TRUTH..

CDSmith · 07-31-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by theking
"The failure here was that the news media got to thinking the government could be trusted to reflect reality," said Carolyn Marvin, professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication.

I had no idea the U. of Pennsylvania was sending it's staff to Iraq for first-hand information. Cool.

Webby · 07-31-2003, 12:27 PM

Quote:

This is apparently the original story as written by Deanna Wrenn.

?This is
a part of history'

ELIZABETH -- Jessica Lynch looked and sounded great, residents and visitors said after she rode through town on a Mustang convertible.

But many wanted to get a longer glimpse of the 20-year-old Army private they consider a hero.

"She looked absolutely beautiful," said Angie Kinder, who came from Huntington with her two girls, Grace, 4, and Caroline, 1. "I expected her to look worse."

Wonder what lipstick Lynch was wearing? What dress was young Grace Kinder from Huntington wearing that day?

Shit.. not surprised Reuters revamped the story - the Wrenn version is slop for the brain dead - not exactly "news".

The background to the Lynch fantasy is another load of US propaganda which already fell apart when accounts were recited by numerous other people involved. Some call it lies, - others "propaganda".

Can't wait to see the "BlackHawk Down" version of "Jessica MIA" - not!

But nice to see Miss Lynch is in one piece.

Rich · 07-31-2003, 12:37 PM

hahahaha, the USA made up 95% of the whole Jessica Lynch story anyway.

theking · 07-31-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
well Theking... it is true that it is misleading and is really unfair for Deanna Wrenn.... however, I dont see where that article manipulate the public ... since no one knows Deanna Wrenn.. (its not like they were cashing in on her credibility)

I also dont know where's the proof that Rueter is not objective?

Read Deanna Wrenn's story about the home coming. Objective reporting. Re-read Reuters false story using Deanna Wrenn as being the author of the Reuters story. It does not report the home coming for what it was...a home coming...but instead is slanted against the American media...

"was hyped into a story of U.S. heroism under fire"

"But she became a national hero after media reports quoted unnamed U.S. officials as saying she fought fiercely before being captured."

The American military...

"The U.S. military also released video taken during what was portrayed as a daring rescue by special forces who raided the Iraqi hospital where she was treated. Iraqi doctors said later the U.S. operation had been over-dramatized."

The American government...

"The failure here was that the news media got to thinking the government could be trusted to reflect reality," said Carolyn Marvin, professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication.

"It no longer matters in America whether something is true or false. The population has been conditioned to accept anything: sentimental stories, lies, atomic bomb threats," said John MacArthur, the publisher of Harper's magazine.

"A spokesman for U.S. Central Command in Florida had no comment when asked about assertions that the heroism tale was seen by some critics as government propaganda."

The above is an example of non objective reporting...objective reporting was that of Deanna Wrenn's account of the home coming event and was not slanted...just a simple personal report of the home coming...no shots taken at anyone or any entity.

Reuters not only falsely attributed the story to Deanna Wrenn but "hyped the story" with all of the extraneous negative comments. This is the way I view it...if you or someone else views it differently...so be it.

Webby · 07-31-2003, 01:50 PM

theking:

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Read Deanna Wrenn's story about the home coming. Objective reporting.

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ELIZABETH -- Jessica Lynch looked and sounded great, residents and visitors said after she rode through town on a Mustang convertible.

But many wanted to get a longer glimpse of the 20-year-old Army private they consider a hero.

"She looked absolutely beautiful," said Angie Kinder, who came from Huntington with her two girls, Grace, 4, and Caroline, 1. "I expected her to look worse."

People started lining up along Elizabeth's main street, W.Va. 14, as early as 8 a.m. Tuesday. By the time Lynch rode down the street, swamped by photographers and smiling, people were ready to see her.

They crowded sidewalks and waved flags, screaming "Welcome home Jessi!" and cheering. The Wirt County High School band played, hoping Lynch's motorcade might stop for a minute.

Instead, Lynch was out of sight within seconds.

Is that "objective reporting"??? Think not! It is a rambling collection of "words" by a writer more suited to pulp romance novels. Any editor is going to pull that garbage apart.

This was a "non event".

theking · 07-31-2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theking:

Is that "objective reporting"??? Think not! It is a rambling collection of "words" by a writer more suited to pulp romance novels. Any editor is going to pull that garbage apart.

This was a "non event".

Her editor didn't. The story was run the way she reported it in her paper. Reuters asked her if they could run her story...she agreed and then did not run her story but a story written by their writers...but instead of taking credit for a slanted article they laid the blame at Deanna Wrenn's feet...thus making their story a total fabrication of the truth...and even refused to remove her name from the story...when she asked them to.

xxxdesign-net · 07-31-2003, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

Read Deanna Wrenn's story about the home coming. Objective reporting. Re-read Reuters false story using Deanna Wrenn as being the author of the Reuters story. It does not report the home coming for what it was...a home coming...but instead is slanted against the American media...

"was hyped into a story of U.S. heroism under fire"

"But she became a national hero after media reports quoted unnamed U.S. officials as saying she fought fiercely before being captured."

The American military...

"The U.S. military also released video taken during what was portrayed as a daring rescue by special forces who raided the Iraqi hospital where she was treated. Iraqi doctors said later the U.S. operation had been over-dramatized."

The American government...

"The failure here was that the news media got to thinking the government could be trusted to reflect reality," said Carolyn Marvin, professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication.

"It no longer matters in America whether something is true or false. The population has been conditioned to accept anything: sentimental stories, lies, atomic bomb threats," said John MacArthur, the publisher of Harper's magazine.

"A spokesman for U.S. Central Command in Florida had no comment when asked about assertions that the heroism tale was seen by some critics as government propaganda."

The above is an example of non objective reporting...objective reporting was that of Deanna Wrenn's account of the home coming event and was not slanted...just a simple personal report of the home coming...no shots taken at anyone or any entity.

Reuters not only falsely attributed the story to Deanna Wrenn but "hyped the story" with all of the extraneous negative comments. This is the way I view it...if you or someone else views it differently...so be it.

what the hell are you talking about???

Being critic is being subjective?

Where's the lie in the story? (except for stating that Deanna Wrenn wrote that article) Which is wrong but doesnt affect the readers...

Mr.Fiction · 07-31-2003, 02:08 PM

TheKing has been listening to Rush Limbaugh again.

Reuters made the story more objective and it annoyed the right wingers.

Most of the Jessica Lynch story was just another Bush administration lie.

Webby · 07-31-2003, 02:08 PM

theking:

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Her editor didn't.

Yep.. that's the editor of the Charleston Daily Mail - a local rag. The style of this "content ridden" piece matches the dead brains of the readers it is appealing to.

Any *actual news* service ain't going to carry such rubbish and fll their columns with "She looked absolutely beautiful," said Angie Kinder, who came from Huntington with her two girls, Grace, 4, and Caroline, 1. "I expected her to look worse."

At least the Reuters rewrite actually covered a range of facts and related quotes surrounding the Lynch matter - especially since the "homecoming" was not a story.

seven · 07-31-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Reuters not only falsely attributed the story to Deanna Wrenn but "hyped the story" with all of the extraneous negative comments. This is the way I view it...if you or someone else views it differently...so be it.

Doesn't matter if Rueters attributed it to Deanna Wrenn or Leanna Fenn when I read a reuter story I think it's simply a "Reuters" story not of some Lynn, Finn or Wrenn. Now, if the story was left alone it actually would be very biased towards U.S. gov and one of its many successful prop (atleast as most outside U.S. say it is). Changing the lines make it all so much more "unbiased" and interesting and guess what still giving credit to the original writer who prolly didn't even deserve it.. only seem someone name Wrenn thriving for some attention now instead?

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Shit.. not surprised Reuters revamped the story - the Wrenn version is slop for the brain dead - not exactly "news".

Couldn't agree more webby

eroswebmaster · 07-31-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

what the hell are you talking about???

Being critic is being subjective?

Where's the lie in the story? (except for stating that Deanna Wrenn wrote that article) Which is wrong but doesnt affect the readers...

Who are you to know whether or not it's a lie?

You weren't there. You do not have first hand knowledge of this event and neither do I.

But you can tell by the tone of the Reuters article that it is slanted towards the negative in regards to this event and that's all theking is pointing out.

Everyone has an agenda or a view including you, me and my dog Kerouac.

But for one person to claim they don't while others do is just utter bullshit.

theking · 07-31-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

what the hell are you talking about???

Being critic is being subjective?

Where's the lie in the story? (except for stating that Deanna Wrenn wrote that article) Which is wrong but doesnt affect the readers...

The word to use is "lie" not the word "wrong". It definitely affected Deanna Wrenn.

"When I got to work Wednesday, e-mail messages were flooding my inbox calling me everything but Peter Arnett," she wrote, referring to the former TV reporter who was fired after giving an interview to Iraqi state TV."

theking · 07-31-2003, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theking:

Yep.. that's the editor of the Charleston Daily Mail - a local rag. The style of this "content ridden" piece matches the dead brains of the readers it is appealing to.

Any *actual news* service ain't going to carry such rubbish and fll their columns with "She looked absolutely beautiful," said Angie Kinder, who came from Huntington with her two girls, Grace, 4, and Caroline, 1. "I expected her to look worse."

At least the Reuters rewrite actually covered a range of facts and related quotes surrounding the Lynch matter - especially since the "homecoming" was not a story.

Can you then explain why Reuters asked her if they could run "her" story?? Why didn't they just run their own story using their own writers...which is what they did anyhow. In addition why would they not remove her byline when she asked them too, as it was their story...written by their writers...and not her story as portrayed by them??

Mr.Fiction · 07-31-2003, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Can you then explain why Reuters asked her if they could run "her" story?? Why didn't they just run their own story using their own writers...which is what they did anyhow. In addition why would they not remove her byline when she asked them too, as it was their story...written by their writers...and not her story as portrayed by them??

If they would have done that, you would have been mad because they didn't report the lies from the Bush administration.

No matter what the media does, if they don't report Bush lies as truth, you will cry about it.

Bush is not God, no matter what Rush told you.

Webby · 07-31-2003, 02:30 PM

theking:

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"When I got to work Wednesday, e-mail messages were flooding my inbox calling me everything but Peter Arnett," she wrote, referring to the former TV reporter who was fired after giving an interview to Iraqi state TV."

Looks like we are back to "perceptions" cultivated by US media and when an "opposing side" dares to conflict, some are clearly living in dumbo world and find this in some way offensive.

Odd samples:

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"was hyped into a story of U.S. heroism under fire"

There is no doubt that this was hyped. The same as the story about the young boy who lost limbs... he was hyped and "coming to America" for treatment till he told the Press "I don't want to go there, - these people killed all my family".

Quote:

"But she became a national hero after media reports quoted unnamed U.S. officials as saying she fought fiercely before being captured."

It is no secret that she did not "empty her gun", but was involved in a collision between her vehicle and the one in front which was under attack.

These "unnamed US officials" are the people who feed the garbage to papers like the Charleston Daily Mail and the brain dead believe them to be true.

There is a wide gap in the US perception of this world and the actual real life world. There is nothing in the two sample quotes above which is either incorrect or "biased".

Webby · 07-31-2003, 02:35 PM

theking:

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Can you then explain why Reuters asked her if they could run "her" story??

Hell knows... but if I thought I was getting a story and paying for it.. I'd want a story.

If that junk can into a newsroom it would be laughed at. It is not surprising they rewrote this. The rewrite actually gives Wrens' popcorn brain some credence she clearly does not deserve.

xxxdesign-net · 07-31-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by theking

The word to use is "lie" not the word "wrong". It definitely affected Deanna Wrenn.

"When I got to work Wednesday, e-mail messages were flooding my inbox calling me everything but Peter Arnett," she wrote, referring to the former TV reporter who was fired after giving an interview to Iraqi state TV."

Yes theKing, we all agree that its unethical and Deanna Wrenn should be pissed and sue them!!

HOWEVER, what was the point of your post? You were trying to prove that Rueter is not objectif and biased...

You have failed to prove that to us

theking · 07-31-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

Yes theKing, we all agree that its unethical and Deanna Wrenn should be pissed and sue them!!

HOWEVER, what was the point of your post? You were trying to prove that Rueter is not objectif and biased...

You have failed to prove that to us

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Reuters not only falsely attributed the story to Deanna Wrenn but "hyped the story" with all of the extraneous negative comments. This is the way I view it...if you or someone else views it differently...so be it.

theking · 07-31-2003, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
TheKing has been listening to Rush Limbaugh again.

Reuters made the story more objective and it annoyed the right wingers.

Most of the Jessica Lynch story was just another Bush administration lie.

I am not a right winger...I have not heard a word of Rush Limbaugh since he left TV (and even then I only watched the show as entertainment...I think he is a joke)...you on the other hand seem to be obsessed by Rush Limbaugh as you constantly refer to him. The Jessica Lynch story was not an administration lie...it was hyped by the media. As for being a hero...she was...she served...and in addition served in a combat zone...that makes her a hero.

Rochard · 07-31-2003, 04:15 PM

I don't see where the Reuters article slams anyone. The first article was mere fluff, and Reuters re-wrote it to include everything else surrounding the home coming.

I also don't understand how the US Government has made this out to be something it wasn't. Any hostage resuce in a live combat zone is dramatic - Period. They came in by by air armed with rifles with real bullets right in the middle of a live combat zone. At any moment a Iraqi convoy could have come down the street and broken into a firefight.

Also, your blaming the US Government here, but the press is more at fault. During the war covereage on TV the news stations were looking for anything of interest. Anything slightly interesting was live on TV and they jumped all over it. A resuce attempt - with a woman as a POW - quickly grabs head lines. A single statement by the government saying "Lynch was injured" can be taken a thousand different ways - Maybe she crashed her Hummer, maybe she was shot, maybe she fucking slit her wrists. It was the media that picked up the story and ran with it, while the information was coming out of a combat zone.

theking · 07-31-2003, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theking:

Hell knows... but if I thought I was getting a story and paying for it.. I'd want a story.

If that junk can into a newsroom it would be laughed at. It is not surprising they rewrote this. The rewrite actually gives Wrens' popcorn brain some credence she clearly does not deserve.

I think you basically answered why they asked "her" if they could run "her" story. They knew she was a unknown reporter working for a local unknown paper and they thought they could get away with printing "their negative story" under her name without repercussion. They thought she would be grateful to them for running a story under her byline...and who knows...she may very well have been until the negativism of the story was blamed upon her. I hope that she can find a way to sue the hell out of them for their "lie"...Reuters is having financial difficulty.

They took a story of a very small town welcoming home a very injured soldier...that virtually everyone knew personally...and turned the story into a "negative story"...a story with an "agenda". Biased and non objective reporting in my books...as well as "lying" about who the author of the story was.

07-31-2003, 06:56 AM	#1
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	Jessica Lynch and Reuters A free lance writer...wrote a story about the home coming of Jessica Lynch...which was a favorable and warm story about the home coming and the welcome she recieved. Reuters asked the free lance writer if they could run her story...and she agreed. Reuters then rewrote her story (using only one line of the orginal story) and turned it into an America bashing story. The free lance writer then asked Reuters to remove her byline and Reuters refused to do so. My point is...for those that are always portraying the American news media as being "biased" and "untruthful"...and that if Americans want "unbiased" and "truthful" reporting then pay attention to Reuters and the BBC. Well so much for "unbiased" and "truthful" reporting by Reuters. I have stated before...I am of the opinion that all news media outlets have their own "biases" built into their stories. This happened several days ago...so unfortunately I cannot find any links...maybe someone else can. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html Last edited by theking; 07-31-2003 at 07:00 AM..

07-31-2003, 06:57 AM	#2
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07-31-2003, 06:59 AM	#3
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	That's pretty damn underhanded. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

07-31-2003, 07:14 AM	#12
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	The whole Jessica Lynch fiasco is amazingly similar to the fake Sgt. William Schumann that they created in the movie Wag The Dog. She's the token martyr. and what the fuck was she doing in Iraq anyways? She looks like an innocent little kitten. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

07-31-2003, 07:50 AM	#17
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	This is apparently the original story as written by Deanna Wrenn. ?This is a part of history' ELIZABETH -- Jessica Lynch looked and sounded great, residents and visitors said after she rode through town on a Mustang convertible. But many wanted to get a longer glimpse of the 20-year-old Army private they consider a hero. "She looked absolutely beautiful," said Angie Kinder, who came from Huntington with her two girls, Grace, 4, and Caroline, 1. "I expected her to look worse." People started lining up along Elizabeth's main street, W.Va. 14, as early as 8 a.m. Tuesday. By the time Lynch rode down the street, swamped by photographers and smiling, people were ready to see her. They crowded sidewalks and waved flags, screaming "Welcome home Jessi!" and cheering. The Wirt County High School band played, hoping Lynch's motorcade might stop for a minute. Instead, Lynch was out of sight within seconds. "That was fast," said Tracy Vanoy, who came from Pennsboro in Ritchie County to see Lynch. "She looked good, though. She looked happy." Elizabeth resident Juanita Lockhart came out to show her support for Lynch. "I wish they would have stopped for just a minute," she said. Even in the brief moment Lynch passed by, many eyes teared up, and people said they were in the presence of a hero. Barbara Fritz drove from Wellsburg in Brooke County to see Lynch. Although she only caught a glimpse for a moment, Fritz said she was glad she made the trip. "She's a beautiful girl," Fritz said. "It was well worth it." After Lynch headed toward her home in Palestine, the crowd dispersed into the street and was gone within an hour. Residents here are hoping life starts to get back to normal now that Lynch is back. Paula Burton, who is a second cousin of Lynch, said she won't go see the family until the media and hordes of people leave. "We'll just wait until things calm down," she said. http://www.dailymail.com/news/News/2003072318/ This is the story that was rewritten by Reuters and was printed under Deanna Wrenn's byline. By Deanna Wrenn PALESTINE, W.Va. (Reuters) - Jessica Lynch, the injured Army private whose ordeal in Iraq was hyped into a story of U.S. heroism under fire, returned home on Tuesday to the embrace of loved-ones and cheers from flag-waving well-wishers. "I had no idea so many people knew I was missing," the 20-year-old supply clerk said a brief prepared statement that represented her first public remarks since she was captured by Iraqi forces on March 23 near the city of Nassiriya and rescued by U.S. commandos on April 1. Sitting in a wheelchair before a large American flag, dressed in an Army beret and uniform, Lynch expressed sorrow over the deaths of 11 comrades including another female soldier, PFC Lori Ann Piestewa of Tuba City, Arizona, all killed when their unit fell into an ambush. "She was my best friend," said Lynch. "Lori will always remain in my heart." Lynch, who has been awarded the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart and the Prisoner of War medals, arrived in this Appalachian community aboard an Army Blackhawk helicopter with her family. She later rode a red Mustang convertible on a five-mile trek to her home while hundreds waved flags, donned yellow ribbons and held up posters of the young soldier. West Virginia Gov. Bob Wise called it "a homecoming for the world." Edith Kidd, a well-wisher from Buffalo, West Virginia, agreed: "People from all over the country and all over the world are here. It's the second Fourth of July." Lynch was in a 507th Maintenance Company convoy when her unit was ambushed. A 90-minute firefight ensued. But she became a national hero after media reports quoted unnamed U.S. officials as saying she fought fiercely before being captured. In the end, Army investigators concluded that Lynch was injured when her Humvee crashed into another vehicle in the convoy after being hit by a rocket-propelled grenade. The U.S. military also released video taken during what was portrayed as a daring rescue by special forces who raided the Iraqi hospital where she was treated. Iraqi doctors said later the U.S. operation had been over-dramatized. Lynch has been quoted as saying she can remember nothing of the ambush or the rescue, and her remarks on Tuesday shed no new light on the episode. "The failure here was that the news media got to thinking the government could be trusted to reflect reality," said Carolyn Marvin, professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg School for Communication. "It no longer matters in America whether something is true or false. The population has been conditioned to accept anything: sentimental stories, lies, atomic bomb threats," said John MacArthur, the publisher of Harper's magazine. A spokesman for U.S. Central Command in Florida had no comment when asked about assertions that the heroism tale was seen by some critics as government propaganda. The Washington Post, first to report the heroic version of Lynch's story, was criticized by its ombudsman for publishing information that was "wrong in its most compelling aspects." The Lynch story also exposed CBS News to criticism after the network offered Lynch a movie deal while trying to persuade her to give an interview about her experiences. On Sunday, CBS Chairman and Chief Executive Leslie Moonves acknowledged CBS News probably erred in offering the deal. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=3137668 Off hand this looks like it may be the only line used by Reuters from the original authors piece. "For a long time, I had no idea so many people know I had been missing," __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! 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07-31-2003, 07:00 AM	#4
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	as a writer - it happens all the time. Once you sell your story you better be prepared to have it editted and changed to whatever they want. oh, and Reuters and the BBC aren't the same thing.

07-31-2003, 07:03 AM	#7
pudcat Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,169	The whole jessica lynch thing was setup by the govt for a bit of brainwashing...

07-31-2003, 07:04 AM	#8
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	i still would like to see proof of this though

07-31-2003, 07:41 AM	#15
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	Here's the article: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030722/80/e4otn.html

07-31-2003, 07:45 AM	#16
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	...and some more info about the article: http://washingtontimes.com/national/...3329-6315r.htm http://www.chronwatch.com/editorial/...y.asp?aid=3601 http://www.nypost.com/seven/07252003...nists/1452.htm

07-31-2003, 08:18 AM	#18
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	"Reuters defended its coverage yesterday after Ms. Wrenn's account appeared on the Wall Street Journal's Opinion Journal Web site. "We always reserve the right to temper a story with copy from both sides of an issue to better service our global readership," Reuters said. "The advance story focused on the media controversy that has ensued since the rescue first took place. ... We feel strongly that our coverage of Private Lynch's return presents both sides of the issue fairly." http://washingtontimes.com/national/...3329-6315r.htm They definitely "tempered" the story written by Deanna Wrenn. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

07-31-2003, 09:22 AM	#19
NelsonN Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 215	To TheKing, Everyone praises google but don't seem to know how to use it. This baffles me. Next time your looking for a news article/story go to google.com and click on news and then enter relative keywords and you will get the latest and past news articles in seconds. __________________ Toy Niche Sponsor

07-31-2003, 10:43 AM	#22
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	well Theking... it is true that it is misleading and is really unfair for Deanna Wrenn.... however, I dont see where that article manipulate the public ... since no one knows Deanna Wrenn.. (its not like they were cashing in on her credibility) I also dont know where's the proof that Rueter is not objective? Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 07-31-2003 at 10:46 AM..

07-31-2003, 11:10 AM	#25
slackologist Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,379	BTW, truthful reporting is about laying out all the facts and letting the reader/viewer decide for themselves what is the truth, not just presenting one side of the story and saying THIS IS THE TRUTH..

07-31-2003, 12:37 PM	#28
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	hahahaha, the USA made up 95% of the whole Jessica Lynch story anyway.

07-31-2003, 02:08 PM	#33
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	TheKing has been listening to Rush Limbaugh again. Reuters made the story more objective and it annoyed the right wingers. Most of the Jessica Lynch story was just another Bush administration lie. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

07-31-2003, 04:15 PM	#45
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,171	I don't see where the Reuters article slams anyone. The first article was mere fluff, and Reuters re-wrote it to include everything else surrounding the home coming. I also don't understand how the US Government has made this out to be something it wasn't. Any hostage resuce in a live combat zone is dramatic - Period. They came in by by air armed with rifles with real bullets right in the middle of a live combat zone. At any moment a Iraqi convoy could have come down the street and broken into a firefight. Also, your blaming the US Government here, but the press is more at fault. During the war covereage on TV the news stations were looking for anything of interest. Anything slightly interesting was live on TV and they jumped all over it. A resuce attempt - with a woman as a POW - quickly grabs head lines. A single statement by the government saying "Lynch was injured" can be taken a thousand different ways - Maybe she crashed her Hummer, maybe she was shot, maybe she fucking slit her wrists. It was the media that picked up the story and ran with it, while the information was coming out of a combat zone. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION