BEWARE of "VISIONBILL.com" ??? - GoFuckYourself.com

WorldwideWebGuy · 08-01-2003, 03:42 AM

I saw a banner on this website for "VisionBill.com" & decided to try to give their service a try after ACPay (EGSPay) decided to stop billing new memberships (basiclaly screwing their webmasters by not making us aware of something they've suspected problems with since July 8th & just recently telling their webmasters of their big suprise to stop processing new billings).

The folks at VisionBill.com originally state that they pay weekly, but then in the sign-up process that was changed to "monthly" --- hmmm --- but I still continued with the process to join their service.

I filled everything out, included my banking information, etc & set up the site as instructed ---- but THEN, when emailing their site to inform them that I was ready to be activated (which they sey will only take 12 hours), I was shocked to learn that ALL emails sent to their website are returned as invalid --- there does not seem to be any way to get an email to these folks!

Their website sent me a confirmation email after I submitted info on their website, but in returning that email back to them to inform them of my completing their instructions, that email was returned as an invalid address!

To make matters worse, I think I may've fucked myself royally by giving these folks my banking information online in the sign-up process. It has been almost 36 hours now, & although I have to wait 6 hours until my bank opens to find out what is going on, I noticed in checking my account online that a transaction took place against my account in the amount of $750. This was NOT an authorized charge & it only shows online as a "pending" transaction so I don't have any info as of yet as to who is pulling these funds or why or from where; but I'm very suspect it may be VisionBill ???

DOES ANYONE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THESE GUYS & ARE THEY LEGIT OR STILL IN OPERATION? None of their emails listed as contacts work. I figured, since I saw the banner for their service on this website (the actual website here, not in a user post) that it was a valid service; but now I fear they me about to seriously fuck me!

I hope I am wrong, but felt it only fair to possibly warn others to PLEASE BE CAREFUL when considering to try their service (certainly would be very cautious of giving banking info to a service or website that you can't get an email to) --- wish I had known then what I do now. I would appreciate any info on this billing company or service that anyone is willing to also share with me.

THANKS!

SENSEX · 08-01-2003, 04:32 AM

do a search for Visionbill.com and you will see that they are scammers, sorry for your loss

justsexxx · 08-01-2003, 05:56 AM

Have your bank put that 750 dollar on hold, and signup at ccbill or epoch

Andre

Fabien · 08-01-2003, 06:16 AM

They were accused of processing CP (without knowing it they say...) and Visa pulled the plug on them (that's what they say too)

Missing money, balance cut in half, late payments, NO PAYMENT etc..........

Master_Yoba · 08-01-2003, 06:52 AM

Go CCBill

Carrie · 08-01-2003, 07:14 AM

And once you get done talking to your bank about putting that charge on permanent hold/deny status, don't forget to close the account and open a new one with different debit cards and different PIN codes, etc.
As long as they have your valid bank account info they can continue to try to hit you. You block the transaction for $750, they can try again with $749 and it will go through (since it is a different amount).
New checking account time!

CDSmith · 08-01-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Carrie
And once you get done talking to your bank about putting that charge on permanent hold/deny status, don't forget to close the account and open a new one with different debit cards and different PIN codes, etc.
As long as they have your valid bank account info they can continue to try to hit you. You block the transaction for $750, they can try again with $749 and it will go through (since it is a different amount).
New checking account time!

Damn good post.

DTK · 08-01-2003, 08:40 AM

Don't they currently advertise on this board?

tonkagunner · 08-01-2003, 10:49 AM

Well, they used to pay. It is sort of a ma and pa operation. You get paid via wire transfer (not ach) and have to pay bank fees for it.

They have been down in past for weeks at a time. Just recently site was down for about 3weeks and they meantion nothing about it on website.

Customers cancel all the time too and chargebacks are high. Try doing a test signup yourself and you get email from company called Cey-Kay payments and bill from Visionbill as well. They are resellers of resellers it seems. I don't think these guys are scammers, but just incompetent.

Good luck.

Sexzity · 08-01-2003, 11:21 AM

If you are going to use them, i hope you can danish, becouse sometimes then someone is trying to use there CC, there comes error messages in Danish.

They have a history where they have billed for at least 2 CP sites.
After Visa and Mastercard discovered that, they frozen a lot of the money and mastercard has send the money back to the card holders.

It can take days before you get any reply on support, becouse it seems like they never check there mails and they never check the sites they are billing company for and therefore another CP case can easily be a reality.

I have being thru 1 website claiming that they allso has sold membersships, around the webmaster.

They closed my account becouse i was asking them to give them the money they own me.

08-01-2003, 03:42 AM	#1
WorldwideWebGuy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 19	BEWARE of "VISIONBILL.com" ??? I saw a banner on this website for "VisionBill.com" & decided to try to give their service a try after ACPay (EGSPay) decided to stop billing new memberships (basiclaly screwing their webmasters by not making us aware of something they've suspected problems with since July 8th & just recently telling their webmasters of their big suprise to stop processing new billings). The folks at VisionBill.com originally state that they pay weekly, but then in the sign-up process that was changed to "monthly" --- hmmm --- but I still continued with the process to join their service. I filled everything out, included my banking information, etc & set up the site as instructed ---- but THEN, when emailing their site to inform them that I was ready to be activated (which they sey will only take 12 hours), I was shocked to learn that ALL emails sent to their website are returned as invalid --- there does not seem to be any way to get an email to these folks! Their website sent me a confirmation email after I submitted info on their website, but in returning that email back to them to inform them of my completing their instructions, that email was returned as an invalid address! To make matters worse, I think I may've fucked myself royally by giving these folks my banking information online in the sign-up process. It has been almost 36 hours now, & although I have to wait 6 hours until my bank opens to find out what is going on, I noticed in checking my account online that a transaction took place against my account in the amount of $750. This was NOT an authorized charge & it only shows online as a "pending" transaction so I don't have any info as of yet as to who is pulling these funds or why or from where; but I'm very suspect it may be VisionBill ??? DOES ANYONE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THESE GUYS & ARE THEY LEGIT OR STILL IN OPERATION? None of their emails listed as contacts work. I figured, since I saw the banner for their service on this website (the actual website here, not in a user post) that it was a valid service; but now I fear they me about to seriously fuck me! I hope I am wrong, but felt it only fair to possibly warn others to PLEASE BE CAREFUL when considering to try their service (certainly would be very cautious of giving banking info to a service or website that you can't get an email to) --- wish I had known then what I do now. I would appreciate any info on this billing company or service that anyone is willing to also share with me. THANKS!

08-01-2003, 05:56 AM	#3
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Have your bank put that 750 dollar on hold, and signup at ccbill or epoch Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

08-01-2003, 06:52 AM	#5
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08-01-2003, 10:49 AM	#9
tonkagunner Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 830	Well, they used to pay. It is sort of a ma and pa operation. You get paid via wire transfer (not ach) and have to pay bank fees for it. They have been down in past for weeks at a time. Just recently site was down for about 3weeks and they meantion nothing about it on website. Customers cancel all the time too and chargebacks are high. Try doing a test signup yourself and you get email from company called Cey-Kay payments and bill from Visionbill as well. They are resellers of resellers it seems. I don't think these guys are scammers, but just incompetent. Good luck. __________________ Traffic Cash Gold Last edited by tonkagunner; 08-01-2003 at 10:59 AM..

08-01-2003, 04:32 AM	#2
SENSEX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Someplace Special Posts: 1,159	do a search for Visionbill.com and you will see that they are scammers, sorry for your loss

08-01-2003, 06:16 AM	#4
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	They were accused of processing CP (without knowing it they say...) and Visa pulled the plug on them (that's what they say too) Missing money, balance cut in half, late payments, NO PAYMENT etc..........

08-01-2003, 07:14 AM	#6
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	And once you get done talking to your bank about putting that charge on permanent hold/deny status, don't forget to close the account and open a new one with different debit cards and different PIN codes, etc. As long as they have your valid bank account info they can continue to try to hit you. You block the transaction for $750, they can try again with $749 and it will go through (since it is a different amount). New checking account time!

08-01-2003, 08:40 AM	#8
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Don't they currently advertise on this board?

08-01-2003, 11:21 AM	#10
Sexzity Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyperspaces! Posts: 1,329	If you are going to use them, i hope you can danish, becouse sometimes then someone is trying to use there CC, there comes error messages in Danish. They have a history where they have billed for at least 2 CP sites. After Visa and Mastercard discovered that, they frozen a lot of the money and mastercard has send the money back to the card holders. It can take days before you get any reply on support, becouse it seems like they never check there mails and they never check the sites they are billing company for and therefore another CP case can easily be a reality. I have being thru 1 website claiming that they allso has sold membersships, around the webmaster. They closed my account becouse i was asking them to give them the money they own me.