How does a dialer work exactely? - GoFuckYourself.com

andi_germany · 07-30-2003, 07:30 AM

In light of the resent CC-Billing problems I want to look into dialers to have a backup for the worst case scenario. I never used any dialer and I have only a little knowledge about it. Here are some questions I have.

Does a dialer generally bill for a site hosted by the dialer publisher or can you bill your own members section? I assume there are both types of dialers out there.

Is it difficult to set up a dialer for my own paysites?

Is it possible to use the same dialer for all my paysites (one download not multiple)?

Do I have to setup a mirror members section for dialer and cc billing working together?

I would love to here the answers to the questions and if the answers would be longer than yes or no I would appreciate it.
If I surf dialer sites they hardly have any infos available on how this works and I really like to know more. Any tutorial would be appreciated also.

Thanks

KRL · 07-30-2003, 07:33 AM

NoCreditCard has a way you can setup the dialer for your own content area.

Talk to Mitch at the show if you're going to be there.

Here's the link for details:

Instant Access (Dialer) Provider

JoeA · 07-30-2003, 08:01 AM

If you're going to Internext look up a UK company "Global Charge" or check out their site www.globalcharge.com

I'm doing ok with their dialers and they pay 35 days after the end of a month straight in to your bank acct and I haven't had a problem in over a year of working with them.

DutchTeenCash · 07-30-2003, 08:13 AM

yeahhhhhhh http://www.globalcharge.com/ love them, we used them like 7 yrs ago under a diff name, they got bankrupt taken over and bankrupt again in like 1 week, alex stephen or hubert knulst if youre reading this we still get like $3k from you guys

serious if you want a processor that pays and not like $0,10 a min like nc but way more drop me a line [email protected] or 1691547

ps found this : its 2 yrs old, they even used the same logo and send us a mag once a while with interesting ways to make money (yes rip off your old clients

"I am very sorry for the confusion this has caused.

The ETC Group has gone through a demerger and ETC (UK) Ltd (formally GIB)
has been purchased by a US company and we are currently going through a lot
of change.

I am looking into the client payments and will be hopefully be making these
in the next day or so. I have prepared your payment and it covers November &
December.

Please bear with me and I will endeavour to sort you out ASAP.

Many thanks for your continued support.

Regards

Daniel McMillan
Billing Manager

Electronic Transaction Corporation PLC
598-608 Chiswick High Road
London, W4 5RT
Tel: +44 (0)20 8612 6111
Fax: +44 (0)20 8612 8614
Mob: +44 (0)77 6958 1145"

Dax · 07-30-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by thinkx
yeahhhhhhh http://www.globalcharge.com/ love them, we used them like 7 yrs ago under a diff name, they got bankrupt taken over and bankrupt again in like 1 week, alex stephen or hubert knulst if youre reading this we still get like $3k from you guys

serious if you want a processor that pays and not like $0,10 a min like nc but way more drop me a line [email protected] or 1691547

ps found this : its 2 yrs old, they even used the same logo and send us a mag once a while with interesting ways to make money (yes rip off your old clients

"I am very sorry for the confusion this has caused.

The ETC Group has gone through a demerger and ETC (UK) Ltd (formally GIB)
has been purchased by a US company and we are currently going through a lot
of change.

I am looking into the client payments and will be hopefully be making these
in the next day or so. I have prepared your payment and it covers November &
December.

Please bear with me and I will endeavour to sort you out ASAP.

Many thanks for your continued support.

huh? what did you say?

andi_germany · 07-30-2003, 01:30 PM

Any info besides the spam?

wimpy · 07-30-2003, 09:00 PM

I've always made my money with my merchant account. I wish someone would answer the fucking question: "How does a dialer work exactly?"

Is it scumware?

jennycards · 07-30-2003, 10:02 PM

Vivaldi · 07-31-2003, 12:19 AM

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that's exactly how it works!

KRL · 07-31-2003, 12:30 AM

JOKER · 08-06-2003, 05:11 AM

Bit old thread but well I'll answer it anyway...

A dialer works like this:

You either download an .exe file and execute it or you activate an activeX certificate that installs the dialer on your mashine (most temporarily).

This program then either asks you for the correct Modem (dropdown menu to choose) or automaticly selects the correct modem it can dial out on.

Then you either click 'YES,Connect' or it connects on it's own if you already clicked the cert and dials into a Dial-up server thru a PRN (Premium Rate Number).

These Numbers can have different rates. Either pay per minute(depends on the country. In Germany it's 1.86 mostly),Vario (i.e. 29.90 per call plus 2.99 per minute) or Dropcharge,where you get charged a fixed amount per call.

You'll get an IP from a special range from that Dial-up Server,which the members-area provider has to have in his htaccess.So you gain access and can browse the content while you pay per minute or you paid a fixed amount.

It depends on the Dialer if it works exactly like that,but thats the usual way dialers work.

Cheers,
JOKER

JOKER · 08-06-2003, 05:19 AM

And specificly to your questions:

Quote:

Does a dialer generally bill for a site hosted by the dialer publisher or can you bill your own members section? I assume there are both types of dialers out there.

Depends. Normally if the Company is any good it will have both possibillities.

Quote:

Is it difficult to set up a dialer for my own paysites?

Depends,too. For you it's only a few lines in your htaccess.
For the Dialer-provider it can be compiling a complete new dialer or in our case a few-minutes job to just set your infos up.

Quote:

Is it possible to use the same dialer for all my paysites (one download not multiple)?

Depends on the dialer. Let's say it is not impossible.
With us you would need a different template for every paysite (our html-templates are already what you call the dialer).

Quote:

Do I have to setup a mirror members section for dialer and cc billing working together?

Basicly you only need to add some lines into your htaccess file.
You have to decide it your self if that puts you in situation of 2 different sections

Cheers,
JOKER

07-30-2003, 07:30 AM	#1
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	How does a dialer work exactely? In light of the resent CC-Billing problems I want to look into dialers to have a backup for the worst case scenario. I never used any dialer and I have only a little knowledge about it. Here are some questions I have. Does a dialer generally bill for a site hosted by the dialer publisher or can you bill your own members section? I assume there are both types of dialers out there. Is it difficult to set up a dialer for my own paysites? Is it possible to use the same dialer for all my paysites (one download not multiple)? Do I have to setup a mirror members section for dialer and cc billing working together? I would love to here the answers to the questions and if the answers would be longer than yes or no I would appreciate it. If I surf dialer sites they hardly have any infos available on how this works and I really like to know more. Any tutorial would be appreciated also. Thanks __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	Bit old thread but well I'll answer it anyway... A dialer works like this: You either download an .exe file and execute it or you activate an activeX certificate that installs the dialer on your mashine (most temporarily). This program then either asks you for the correct Modem (dropdown menu to choose) or automaticly selects the correct modem it can dial out on. Then you either click 'YES,Connect' or it connects on it's own if you already clicked the cert and dials into a Dial-up server thru a PRN (Premium Rate Number). These Numbers can have different rates. Either pay per minute(depends on the country. In Germany it's 1.86 mostly),Vario (i.e. 29.90 per call plus 2.99 per minute) or Dropcharge,where you get charged a fixed amount per call. You'll get an IP from a special range from that Dial-up Server,which the members-area provider has to have in his htaccess.So you gain access and can browse the content while you pay per minute or you paid a fixed amount. It depends on the Dialer if it works exactly like that,but thats the usual way dialers work. Cheers, JOKER __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker