Is this cheating? Check out this URL, delivered from a traffic broker - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 08-08-2003, 07:12 AM

http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm

Hopefully you will get the same thing I do - a clean 404 page (no pops), but check the source and you will see a 0x0 hahahahahaha, and a 1x1 hahahahahaha. Both hahahahahaha src's are 404, so that triggers off the 404 script and redirects to a paying customer.

In other words, the customer buying 404 traffic is getting their page loaded, but the surfer never sees it since it's a hidden hahahahahaha.

If you watch the status bar while the page is loading, you can probably see that it's loading the URL of a paying customer as well. That's the hidden hahahahahaha(s).

Seems like a pretty blatant case of cheating to me. What do you guys think?

rowan · 08-08-2003, 07:13 AM

hahahahahaha = i-f-r-a-m-e

rowan · 08-08-2003, 07:16 AM

Did a few successive reloads and watched the status bar...

chubby.com
tgpchicks.com
dutchteenamateurs.com
join4free.com
camfantasy.com
revshareamateurs.com
turboface.com
trannysurprise.com

All these sites are being loaded without ever being seen.

Theo · 08-08-2003, 07:17 AM

most probably that's it

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:18 AM

oh shit

Theo · 08-08-2003, 07:19 AM

who runs this good traffic source?

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
who runs this good traffic source?

i think we all would REALLY like to know.

John3 · 08-08-2003, 07:21 AM

I just landed on StileProject

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Did a few successive reloads and watched the status bar...

chubby.com
tgpchicks.com
dutchteenamateurs.com
join4free.com
camfantasy.com
revshareamateurs.com
turboface.com
trannysurprise.com

All these sites are being loaded without ever being seen.

What the fuck - I think the join4free could be mine

strobi · 08-08-2003, 07:24 AM

trannysurprise.com?

turboface.com??

wtf?

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:25 AM

This could be the reason why a much higher percentage of hits are not being cought by counter.

JohnnyUtah · 08-08-2003, 07:26 AM

Yep, definitly smells like shit.... Lets see...

strobi · 08-08-2003, 07:26 AM

post edited nevermind sorry...

Vox · 08-08-2003, 07:26 AM

So who is the broker for this scam?

candyflip · 08-08-2003, 07:28 AM

Is it too early for popcorn?

JohnnyUtah · 08-08-2003, 07:28 AM

Rowan, how did you come up on this url?
Are you buying traffic some that broker?
Who are they?

rowan · 08-08-2003, 07:30 AM

I got that URL from a friend on ICQ who wanted me to have a look at it. He's not buying directly from xratedhits (good work there strobi), but I believe his broker is.

I won't say who the broker is yet, but he's on this board.

strobi · 08-08-2003, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
I got that URL from a friend on ICQ who wanted me to have a look at it. He's not buying directly from xratedhits (good work there strobi), but I believe his broker is.

I won't say who the broker is yet, but he's on this board.

I think it him yeah but I've edited my post because I'm not 100% sure yet.

DarkJedi · 08-08-2003, 07:33 AM

Kirkos Makarios · 08-08-2003, 07:33 AM

The brocker seems to be http://www.xratedhits.net/adult.htm

At lest their advertisement is on this fucking page.....

Such brockers should be

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkos Makarios
The brocker seems to be http://www.xratedhits.net/adult.htm

At lest their advertisement is on this fucking page.....

Such brockers should be

can this be confirmed?

personally, i had a few other people in mind

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:44 AM

god damnit

where are all the detectives when you need them???

this is some serious shit, and i personally would love for the cheater exposed, as i buy from alot of places regularly.

amph · 08-08-2003, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkos Makarios
The brocker seems to be http://www.xratedhits.net/adult.htm

At lest their advertisement is on this fucking page.....

Such brockers should be

I once bought 5k 404 uniques from them, not a single join 4 free signup..

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:48 AM

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=107008

Gutterboy · 08-08-2003, 07:50 AM

We're going to need some fresh "OWNED" pictures soon.

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy
We're going to need some fresh "OWNED" pictures soon.

i dont see how this can be confirmed if we dont hear from the guy who actually bought the hits and found this page.

amph · 08-08-2003, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=107008

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

i dont see how this can be confirmed if we dont hear from the guy who actually bought the hits and found this page.

OK - I bought the hits and found the page in my logs. I thought the traffic had been stopped which is why I was surprised (to say the least) when it appeared in the status bar.

It was bought from a broker who I'm not prepared to name at the moment because I would like to think that he has no idea his source of traffic is doing this.

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser

OK - I bought the hits and found the page in my logs. I thought the traffic had been stopped which is why I was surprised (to say the least) when it appeared in the status bar.

It was bought from a broker who I'm not prepared to name at the moment because I would like to think that he has no idea his source of traffic is doing this.

can you atleast say if its the xratedhits guy?

and do you have intentions of solving this issue?

DutchTeenCash · 08-08-2003, 08:19 AM

same here dutchteenamateurs is ours and we bought traffic at just one broker last month ill go talk to him

Theo · 08-08-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

and do you have intentions of solving this issue?

some times you dont make sense

richard · 08-08-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thinkx
same here dutchteenamateurs is ours and we bought traffic at just one broker last month ill go talk to him

nice sig

Gutterboy · 08-08-2003, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

i dont see how this can be confirmed if we dont hear from the guy who actually bought the hits and found this page.

imo, whoever was doing the fucking was fucking too many people for the issue to drop. the truth will come out eventually.. whether publicly or privately.

Theres nothing a webmaster hates more than getting fucked on a traffic deal by some iframing theif.

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thinkx
same here dutchteenamateurs is ours and we bought traffic at just one broker last month ill go talk to him

Hi Bro,

Thanks for the heads up, but that's not my site, URL or domain.

AST

121760557

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

can you atleast say if its the xratedhits guy?

and do you have intentions of solving this issue?

1) I can say that the broker I bought the traffic from is not the xratedhits guy.

2) Yes hopefully I can resolve this amicably with the broker.

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser

1) I can say that the broker I bought the traffic from is not the xratedhits guy.

2) Yes hopefully I can resolve this amicably with the broker.

thank you, if/when it is confirmed, please bump this thread.

DutchTeenCash · 08-08-2003, 08:33 AM

just talked to AST he has emailed the guy whos sending this and will get back AST has done lots of great things for our site so i guess we will just sit back and relax and wait for his answer...

Theo · 08-08-2003, 08:34 AM

bump

get on your knees

get on your knees

RobertD · 08-08-2003, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser

2) Yes hopefully I can resolve this amicably with the broker.

Amicably resolved? Looks like people are flat out getting fucked.

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobertD

Amicably resolved? Looks like people are flat out getting fucked.

Here's a couple of my pages.

http://knlbrokers.com (Isn't it beautiful?)

http://eroticafuck.com/global.html

The other? It's NOT my url.

swedguy · 08-08-2003, 08:42 AM

All the script src and img src redirect to this:

404 to:
http://www.sexushost.com/next.htm
Redirects to:
http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404
Redirects to:
http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=37

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobertD

Amicably resolved? Looks like people are flat out getting fucked.

True, but I am hoping it will be resolved amicably. I've just written to the broker so I should know shortly. I'm hoping to be able to resolve it privately

rowan · 08-08-2003, 08:44 AM

Ok, instead of noting the domains from the status line, I am now copying them verbatim from my proxy logs.

http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST
http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST
http://revshareamateurs.com/rev3331/.../index.htm?AST
http://free-trial.real-links.com/index.shtml?AST
http://naughtymaturesex.com/missing.html?AST
http://www.dutchteenamateurs.com/tgp...ndex.shtml?AST

biporn · 08-08-2003, 08:45 AM

Funny how this business is...
Everytime someone fucks another up the ass...

There is allways a pussy trying to solve this behind closed doors so he wont trash the poor theif...

Unreal...

completetosser · 08-08-2003, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biporn
Funny how this business is...
Everytime someone fucks another up the ass...

There is allways a pussy trying to solve this behind closed doors so he wont trash the poor theif...

Unreal...

I assume I am the pussy you are referring to.

FWIW - my take is this. I bought the traffic in good faith from a broker. To the best of my knowledge he also bought it in good faith from his source. It's clear that his source has ripped us both of. So the broker can say to me 'yep, we were both ripped, here's your money back'.

Now if that's the case, if I posted his name here, all I would be doing would be causing a lot of shit for someone who was an innocent party in this.

On the other hand, if anything happens that makes me think the actual broker has ripped me off, then I will be more than willing to name him here.

For the time being, I'm working on the basis of innocent until proven guilty

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 09:09 AM

All of the traffic from that stream is off, and now getting my traffic.

It will be slow.

If you were recieving this traffic, contact me.

AST

lil2rich4u2 · 08-08-2003, 09:10 AM

i think they are handling it very well.

BUT i do think eventually someone needs to be fingered in public.

otherwise who do we know NOT to trust??

Adult Site Traffic · 08-08-2003, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Ok, instead of noting the domains from the status line, I am now copying them verbatim from my proxy logs.

http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST
http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST
http://revshareamateurs.com/rev3331/.../index.htm?AST
http://free-trial.real-links.com/index.shtml?AST
http://naughtymaturesex.com/missing.html?AST
http://www.dutchteenamateurs.com/tgp...ndex.shtml?AST

What are you talking about Rowan? Aren't you an affiliate of buying-traffic.com ?

Are you in my delivery script under another name?

I don't know what you're referring to here..

AST

Naughty · 08-08-2003, 09:16 AM

Wow, hoew long has this been going on?
We bought a ton of traffic last few months and we had 0 signups or dialerminutes, I wonder if we've been had as well.

rowan · 08-08-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

What are you talking about Rowan? Aren't you an affiliate of buying-traffic.com ?

Are you in my delivery script under another name?

I don't know what you're referring to here..

AST

That's where some of the i-f-r-a-m-e'd 404s were being redirected to, when I loaded the URL (from the very first post) repeatedly. Looks like xratedhits has some very shady methods of generating his (your) traffic.....

08-08-2003, 07:12 AM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Is this cheating? Check out this URL, delivered from a traffic broker http://xxstory.sexushost.com/xxxfree/wuxia/s0938.htm Hopefully you will get the same thing I do - a clean 404 page (no pops), but check the source and you will see a 0x0 hahahahahaha, and a 1x1 hahahahahaha. Both hahahahahaha src's are 404, so that triggers off the 404 script and redirects to a paying customer. In other words, the customer buying 404 traffic is getting their page loaded, but the surfer never sees it since it's a hidden hahahahahaha. If you watch the status bar while the page is loading, you can probably see that it's loading the URL of a paying customer as well. That's the hidden hahahahahaha(s). Seems like a pretty blatant case of cheating to me. What do you guys think?

08-08-2003, 07:18 AM	#5
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08-08-2003, 07:21 AM	#8
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08-08-2003, 07:25 AM	#11
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	This could be the reason why a much higher percentage of hits are not being cought by counter. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

08-08-2003, 07:26 AM	#12
JohnnyUtah Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 826	Yep, definitly smells like shit.... Lets see... Last edited by JohnnyUtah; 08-08-2003 at 07:32 AM..

08-08-2003, 07:13 AM	#2
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	hahahahahaha = i-f-r-a-m-e

08-08-2003, 07:16 AM	#3
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Did a few successive reloads and watched the status bar... chubby.com tgpchicks.com dutchteenamateurs.com join4free.com camfantasy.com revshareamateurs.com turboface.com trannysurprise.com All these sites are being loaded without ever being seen.

08-08-2003, 07:17 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	most probably that's it

08-08-2003, 07:19 AM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	who runs this good traffic source?

08-08-2003, 07:24 AM	#10
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	trannysurprise.com? turboface.com?? wtf?

08-08-2003, 07:26 AM	#14
Vox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,710	So who is the broker for this scam? __________________ Social profile assassination for hire

08-08-2003, 07:28 AM	#15
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Is it too early for popcorn? __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

08-08-2003, 07:30 AM	#17
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I got that URL from a friend on ICQ who wanted me to have a look at it. He's not buying directly from xratedhits (good work there strobi), but I believe his broker is. I won't say who the broker is yet, but he's on this board.

08-08-2003, 07:33 AM	#19
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300

08-08-2003, 07:33 AM	#20
Kirkos Makarios Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 79	The brocker seems to be http://www.xratedhits.net/adult.htm At lest their advertisement is on this fucking page..... Such brockers should be __________________ 1:40 on Google

08-08-2003, 07:44 AM	#22
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	god damnit where are all the detectives when you need them??? this is some serious shit, and i personally would love for the cheater exposed, as i buy from alot of places regularly. __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

08-08-2003, 07:48 AM	#24
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=107008 __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

08-08-2003, 07:50 AM	#25
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	We're going to need some fresh "OWNED" pictures soon.

08-08-2003, 08:19 AM	#30
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	same here dutchteenamateurs is ours and we bought traffic at just one broker last month ill go talk to him __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-08-2003, 08:33 AM	#37
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	just talked to AST he has emailed the guy whos sending this and will get back AST has done lots of great things for our site so i guess we will just sit back and relax and wait for his answer... __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

08-08-2003, 08:34 AM	#38
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	bump get on your knees get on your knees

08-08-2003, 08:42 AM	#41
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	All the script src and img src redirect to this: 404 to: http://www.sexushost.com/next.htm Redirects to: http://www.sexushost.com/cgi-bin/404 Redirects to: http://adult-site-traffic.com/traffic/out.cgi?c=37

08-08-2003, 08:44 AM	#43
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Ok, instead of noting the domains from the status line, I am now copying them verbatim from my proxy logs. http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST http://www.titsandassgalore.com/tgp.shtml?AST http://revshareamateurs.com/rev3331/.../index.htm?AST http://free-trial.real-links.com/index.shtml?AST http://naughtymaturesex.com/missing.html?AST http://www.dutchteenamateurs.com/tgp...ndex.shtml?AST

08-08-2003, 08:45 AM	#44
biporn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 46	Funny how this business is... Everytime someone fucks another up the ass... There is allways a pussy trying to solve this behind closed doors so he wont trash the poor theif... Unreal...

08-08-2003, 09:09 AM	#46
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08-08-2003, 09:10 AM	#47
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	i think they are handling it very well. BUT i do think eventually someone needs to be fingered in public. otherwise who do we know NOT to trust?? __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

08-08-2003, 09:16 AM	#49
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Wow, hoew long has this been going on? We bought a ton of traffic last few months and we had 0 signups or dialerminutes, I wonder if we've been had as well. __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me