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Old 08-18-2003, 08:04 AM   #51
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Old 08-18-2003, 08:25 AM   #52
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Sex.com not only trolls every board looking for traffic brokers so they can try to put down their traffic quality: they also spammed me by EMAIL, not once, not twice, but THREE times, three different guys, trying to get me to send traffic to their sponsor programs for a cut of the revenue. Then, I noticed that they were following up every post I made promoting my traffic.

Choker is right about Sex.com and their cyber-thugs. Those jerkoffs can't make money by virtue of their traffic, that's why they have to resort to these stupid tactics.

And has anyone even considered this little tidbit: Sex.com *is* a high-value domain, but what kind of traffic will the word 'sex' by itself get you in search engines? When you think about it, it's one of the most generic domains around.

They can keep talking smack about me, but I'll be right fucking there to respond swiftly and effectively.

I'm with YOU, Choker. The people who don't see the problem haven't been fucked with/over by those assholes yet, that's all.

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Old 08-18-2003, 09:03 AM   #53
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Standing offer. Buy $500 of traffic from sex.com. Make a affiliate account just for them. Buy $500 of traffic from me. Make a affiliate account with the same sponsor with me. If you do not make more net with me, I will refund the difference in profit.
Choker i doubt you will lose a cent, as Sex.com traffic is stepped on so many times buy the time its sent to you its worthless. We did 3 tests with them using sites that convert very well and not a single sign up. I haven't tried your traffic yet but it doesn't take much to beat Sex.coms ?
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Old 08-18-2003, 09:08 AM   #54
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is the sex.com traffic that bad seems like no one would be buying if it was
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Old 08-18-2003, 09:09 AM   #55
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I've been spammed a few times from sex.com, they went to great lengths to get my email, they always reference a post on whatever board and then spam sex.com
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Old 08-18-2003, 09:11 AM   #56
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We did 3 tests with them using sites that convert very well and not a single sign up.
Maybe you did it wrong.
I can't explaine why you didn't get a signup, maybe it was the way your ads read or maybe it was the traffic. Who is to know.

I can't explaine why I make a living with my ads on sex.com (all of 4 ads), I just do.
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Oh yeah, for those who doubt Kremen's business sense...remember he built and sold Match.com to USA interactive.

He's probably going to win a 7 perhaps 8 figure lawsuit from Versign as well.
Its one thing winning and another to actually collect the money ??

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Maybe you did it wrong.
I can't explaine why you didn't get a signup, maybe it was the way your ads read or maybe it was the traffic. Who is to know.

I can't explaine why I make a living with my ads on sex.com (all of 4 ads), I just do.
Its quite possible on our first attempt but after that they said they knew how to get better results and did all the keywords and placements themselves and still no sign ups. The sites we tested got about 1/120 sign up ratio from SE traffic.

Now every time i get an e-mail from them they say its all different now the results you get will be better we have different reps, etc.etc. For us their traffic sucks the big one and is the absolute worst we have ever used in the last 4 years. If its as good as they say it is why do they persistently spam the fuck out of everyone, surely it should sell itself ??

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Old 08-18-2003, 09:36 AM   #59
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wasn't hungryman posting under his name?
yeah hungry was posting as Kremen. No clue if thats him or not.

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Am I the only one that has noticed that all these fuckers do is spam their shitty ass traffic here on this board? Notice whenever anyone asks about a brokers traffic, they come in and spam their shit? example.....http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=165029 in this post I am trying to determine price to charge and this asshole comes in and spams his shit.

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Not to make fun of Choker specifically, but what is the value of 1,000,000,000 clicks from countries that have no credit cards, no dialers, no methods of payment? Like Iran and China. The answer is negative value, because it costs you bandwidth and creditability with those you also trade this. Quite frankly, trading traffic of no value is a scam, that defocuses you from making money.
Fuck you.
LMAO.

I agree with you. They're a bunch of spamming, thread jumping assholes every chance they get.

Choker, you have to stop and realize tho, these guys are just hired help, cubicle drones. LOL, they don't OWN any programs. Everything they "learned" about traffic, someone gave them a paper to read.

It's easy for them to jump in here and slam people. They think it makes them look good or smart. They don't "really" know much about traffic, building a business, paying dues or learning the ropes from their mistakes.

They're just drones, and in a year or so, those will be fired or quit, and then, a brand new batch of all knowing kids will take their place.

Hired ppl come and go. Just wait it out You're dealing with Peons.

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Old 08-18-2003, 09:53 AM   #62
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<b>An open letter to Choker</b>

Dear Choker,

Not too bright are you?

Time your shitty attitude got in check anyway. Your attitude is unprofessional as you've pulled this crybaby shit before.

You've irresponsibly attacked others before when your position as traffic broker was threatened.

Sorry kid, your replaceable and likely to be obsolete soon. The nature of the traffic game.

If you hadn't been such a cocky prick every step of the way you might get some sympathy.

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Old 08-18-2003, 10:14 AM   #63
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could sex.com be suggesting that ccbill shaves ?
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Interesting. I recently did a small test with Choker and Sex.com, $25 of traffic for each. I did get one signup from Sex.com out of 350 hits. The Choker test is still running, I am getting about 5% clickthrough on a gallery which seems real good, I still have quite a bit of traffic left though so I have to wait and see how it does.
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i'm not a fan of people who constantly never endingly spam their programs... but worse is insulting your competition, especially someone like choker who has a clean rep for not cheating and taking care of business.

i don't care to do business with places that use smear campaigns on other people or companies... if you have a product to sell, tell me about it, what it costs, what's good about it. DON'T tell me about your competitor, good or bad - and especially don't attempt to mislead me or lie about your competitor. a little business ethics make YOU more trustable, and THAT makes me want to do business with you.
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Interesting. I recently did a small test with Choker and Sex.com, $25 of traffic for each. I did get one signup from Sex.com out of 350 hits. The Choker test is still running, I am getting about 5% clickthrough on a gallery which seems real good, I still have quite a bit of traffic left though so I have to wait and see how it does.

In my opinion $25 of traffic is not much gor a real comparison.


Choker I love you being so subtle as allways
But I agree with you. They also try to take advantage of the newbies with their shit spam.
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Old 08-18-2003, 11:00 AM   #68
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peons lol

that is a word I have not heard of ina long time

lol

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that is a word I have not heard of ina long time



Peons will fuck you up if you piss off enough of them.





Anyway didn't Choker recently stop paying people on non-us browser & proxy traffic?

I'm curious....was that before or after Sex.com attacked him in that thread?

Hmm and does he split it up on the sales now too? Like he doesn't give you or charge you for non-us browser & proxy traffic on the buying end...?




Also, what someone said about becoming obsolete is true. You have to be on your toes & constantly out there assessing your market and emerging technologies, ideas & concepts.

A lot of times companies get so caught up in collecting the money from their currently successful ideas, that they miss important changes and improvements & allow a competitor to cut in.

But from what I've seen Choker seems to be on the ball. He's always releasing new innovative offerings and trying to stay competitive.

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Sigh, heard this a million times. I'm still here, aren't I?

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Not looking for sympathy.

Who are you anon? Someone I blacklisted for cheating?
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Anyway didn't Choker recently stop paying people on non-us browser & proxy traffic?

I'm curious....was that before or after Sex.com attacked him in that thread?
If what I understand is correct, he got back from Internext and made that change. I think people told him he was stupid to be paying for proxy and out of country hits.

Granted I don't think its good to ban aol/other large isp proxy's but its his program.
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Standing offer. Buy $500 of traffic from sex.com. Make a affiliate account just for them. Buy $500 of traffic from me. Make a affiliate account with the same sponsor with me. If you do not make more net with me, I will refund the difference in profit.
First, I think Gary was a bit out of line with what he did.

With that said,

I buy traffic from them and it does well. I've tried to buy traffic from you but your system never sent me confirmation emails, and I am not going to jump thru hoops to contact you. I'd love to try your traffic (with no promise of any kind of refund), but I'm way too busy to go thru the hassles. I have a sex.com contact on AIM and they've done more work for my listings than I have.

I'm not saying your traffic is bad. I have no idea. I haven't been able to obtain any of it. You should have an ICQ number that's obtainable or have someone with one who can sort things out for you.
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I think your taking this a little too personal choker. Do what the rest of us do, deal with it and get on with life.
And why shouldnt he take it personal? the guy basically just called him a cheater
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they are sex.com.. no work needed like what other brokers do to get that traffic.. that shit should be cheap and be lots of it.. they said they got like 1.6 million clicks per day.. i'd do like 250 clicks = 1$.. with traffic that cheap all 1.6 million clicks would be sold and have waiting lists? i duno becuase i don't buy traffic... sex.com will alwyase be up and will alwayse get type in traffic.. i don't think it's worth anymore then thehun.net traffic.. no way 9 cents a click?
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We're on all the boards b/c we are on top of our shit.

If you're sick of seeing sex.com everywhere, then you should just stop playing.

BTW, if you don't even know Gary's name, than you don't know squat!!!
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howdy .. man, so much heat!

Should we call for the Terminator! AHHnold (terminator 3) Schwartznegger?

What if he gets elected, then makes the porn biz stop and all a) go to the gym or b ) go to church on sundays.. I'm gonna have to vote and I hope all the rest of the Cali. folks here do too

Damn! In the meantime back to TRAFFIC... well the truth is no traffic works for everyone cuz there are too many variables! so if one kind works for one guy/gal with one kinda site, then rock on

The bottom line is ya gotta try different kinds of traffic. the stuff that doesn't work folks should be happy cuz they know it doesn't work.

Our sexcom traffic works for TONS of folks, but it doesn't work for all sites.. too many variables! So thats why we have thousands of repeat customers...
and to everyone out there who tried us and we don't work.. hey.. check us out again with your new projects and sites cuz not everything converts in every environment -- or else talk to us sexcom reps about new angles you can take on your projects bc we will help you...

PLUS We make it easy for folks to check us out bc you can make deposits in lots of different sizes...

I have to get back to work now...

Whose gonna vote for Larry Flynt?

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howdy .. man, so much heat!

Should we call for the Terminator! AHHnold (terminator 3) Schwartznegger?

What if he gets elected, then makes the porn biz stop and all a) go to the gym or b ) go to church on sundays.. I'm gonna have to vote and I hope all the rest of the Cali. folks here do too

Damn! In the meantime back to TRAFFIC... well the truth is no traffic works for everyone cuz there are too many variables! so if one kind works for one guy/gal with one kinda site, then rock on

The bottom line is ya gotta try different kinds of traffic. the stuff that doesn't work folks should be happy cuz they know it doesn't work.

Our sexcom traffic works for TONS of folks, but it doesn't work for all sites.. too many variables! So thats why we have thousands of repeat customers...
and to everyone out there who tried us and we don't work.. hey.. check us out again with your new projects and sites cuz not everything converts in every environment -- or else talk to us sexcom reps about new angles you can take on your projects bc we will help you...

PLUS We make it easy for folks to check us out bc you can make deposits in lots of different sizes...

I have to get back to work now...

Whose gonna vote for Larry Flynt?

later,
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Doesn't matter who ya are, or what ya do..
it's how ya do it..

As was once said by some really rich guy, "Concentrate on quality and the bottom line will take care of itself."

Quality can include marketing, ethics, product, support, yada yada...

Scams & spams and candied yams will forever be among us..
So suck it up and just say 'yup'
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If what I understand is correct, he got back from Internext and made that change. I think people told him he was stupid to be paying for proxy and out of country hits.

Granted I don't think its good to ban aol/other large isp proxy's but its his program.
Yep this is true. I stopped paying for foreign and proxy traffic long enough to create a system to sort and pay the guys sending me this traffic. And a system to filter, multiply, and resell the foreign traffic. I am using a proxy whitelist instead of a blacklist. All AOL traffic is allowed thru. sellmetraffic.com is 90% converted and all guys sending me foriegn traffic are now being paid for it. (AOL traffic also) GS2 will be converted within 1 week to do the same. At this time I have over 250k CLICKED NON-ENGLISH traffic in a full browser window for sale.

http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web...bs2.php?tt=ft_
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Choker also seems to be keeping some TGPs in biz.... I doubt that sex.com is doing that????
Keeping a TGP in biz is a good thing? Are you that stupid, or is it your tgp?

TGPs are one of the biggest reasons conversions suck. I wish Ashhahahahaha would blow some big smelly farts in their direction.
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First, I think Gary was a bit out of line with what he did.

With that said,

I buy traffic from them and it does well. I've tried to buy traffic from you but your system never sent me confirmation emails, and I am not going to jump thru hoops to contact you. I'd love to try your traffic (with no promise of any kind of refund), but I'm way too busy to go thru the hassles. I have a sex.com contact on AIM and they've done more work for my listings than I have.

I'm not saying your traffic is bad. I have no idea. I haven't been able to obtain any of it. You should have an ICQ number that's obtainable or have someone with one who can sort things out for you.
When you signup for a account, there is a link to login into your account. I am having guys do more of the work so I can be available by icq and other ways in order to help people. However I found a great coder and we are making such major changes to CTTS, that it will be easy to understand and admin your orders.
I work out of my living room in a 2 bedroom townhome. I have a full time guy in Canada that runs pretty much everything, I just coordinate and come up with dumb ideas. I have a coder that works 4 hours a day and a server admin that works about 2 hours a day. That's it. I'm not a big time operation and never claimed to be. I work 16 hours a day plus I raise 2 girls by myself. I can only do so much myself. I realize I need to do more as far as being reachable to everyone, and will try to make this happen.

my icq is 116894466
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Old 08-18-2003, 07:53 PM   #88
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Keeping a TGP in biz is a good thing? Are you that stupid, or is it your tgp?

TGPs are one of the biggest reasons conversions suck. I wish Ashhahahahaha would blow some big smelly farts in their direction.
Thanks for the flame - I have a TGP, it makes a few bucks - not enough... Oh, but I have several now... Gee I tried a paysite or two... Lets see there was GloBill and PayPal and iBill is fantasitc...

Set aside that joke, Pay sites need TGPs to promote their product. It's just the way it is!!!! TGP is not going away unless no one can make $ at it.

If you're a newbee, trying to create a paysite that makes money could eat you alive these days. Using NastyDollars, LightSpeed and the like to earn a commision with a TGP provides away to get a start and move up the food chain till you learn enough to promote and maintain a profitable paysite.

Yeah I'm doing AVS now, and working up to a paysites once more, but this time, I'll be a little smarter at it. I will still do my TGPs!!! It will give me traffic to help make the paysites work!!!

I have to agree that there are TGP sites that give away way to much. And they piss me off too. In fact I used list too many galleries. I can tell you that having thousands of galleries just uses up bandwidth and does mot really do that much more for sales - just feeds the guys lookin for free porn.

FYI, It was choker that told me to skip the second or archive pages.

I understand there is nothing I can do about large TGPs except try to play it to my advantage. Hey I have enough gallery content to blow away a ton of paysites now.

I think it is Richards Realm that sell access to his archives... There is a creative plan!

Choker got creative in generating traffic! He didn't just try to rely on a great domain name like sex.com. He came up with code and sold it for traffic. Yep, to people that had more traffic than cash. Fucking smart in my opinion, even if he has an attitude!
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Old 08-18-2003, 07:58 PM   #89
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howdy .. man, so much heat!

Should we call for the Terminator! AHHnold (terminator 3) Schwartznegger?

What if he gets elected, then makes the porn biz stop and all a) go to the gym or b ) go to church on sundays.. I'm gonna have to vote and I hope all the rest of the Cali. folks here do too

Damn! In the meantime back to TRAFFIC... well the truth is no traffic works for everyone cuz there are too many variables! so if one kind works for one guy/gal with one kinda site, then rock on

The bottom line is ya gotta try different kinds of traffic. the stuff that doesn't work folks should be happy cuz they know it doesn't work.

Our sexcom traffic works for TONS of folks, but it doesn't work for all sites.. too many variables! So thats why we have thousands of repeat customers...
and to everyone out there who tried us and we don't work.. hey.. check us out again with your new projects and sites cuz not everything converts in every environment -- or else talk to us sexcom reps about new angles you can take on your projects bc we will help you...

PLUS We make it easy for folks to check us out bc you can make deposits in lots of different sizes...

I have to get back to work now...

Whose gonna vote for Larry Flynt?

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Keeping a TGP in biz is a good thing? Are you that stupid, or is it your tgp?

TGPs are one of the biggest reasons conversions suck. I wish Ashhahahahaha would blow some big smelly farts in their direction.
One more note. My TGPs are not part of Choker program. Trades from his TGP partners send traffic though
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Standing offer. Buy $500 of traffic from sex.com. Make a affiliate account just for them. Buy $500 of traffic from me. Make a affiliate account with the same sponsor with me. If you do not make more net with me, I will refund the difference in profit.

What type of sites can your traffic be sent to? Review sites, portals, adult search engines? Do you allow popups or exits? ANY GAY TRAFFIC? May be talking about apples and oranges.

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What type of sites can your traffic be sent to? Review sites, portals, adult search engines? Do you allow popups or exits? ANY GAY TRAFFIC? May be talking about apples and oranges.
These sites yes, but no consoles. http://www.chickentraffic.com
And yes I have some gay traffic
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hello, any recommendations for NY hotels? I'm going there for a business meeting and i'm looking for a decent solution

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Hotel sites have traditionally done pretty well in our pay per click search engine...if you consider buying traffic then I wouldn't mind walking you through our search engine to see if it would be something you would like to consider. Let us make you money!

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Old 08-19-2003, 06:16 PM   #96
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Gary has an exceptional sales force. Instead of having the typical "I'm a porn God" attitude too often seen in this business, he handles sex.com with the same business sense that he used to launch Match.com.

I've never had a bad experience with sex.com traffic.

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Old 08-19-2003, 06:22 PM   #99
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well sex.com is a fine site that provide really goot traffic , every one here spam some thing from time too time this is what interesting at gfy.. you can find interesintg offers/ programs deals ..as long its not too much its okay
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hello, any recommendations for NY hotels? I'm going there for a business meeting and i'm looking for a decent solution

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Hotel sites have traditionally done pretty well in our pay per click search engine...if you consider buying traffic then I wouldn't mind walking you through our search engine to see if it would be something you would like to consider. Let us make you money!

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haha that's funny but who cares.. spam makes the world go around
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