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Old 09-13-2003, 03:53 PM   #151
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is that me or choker thinks he's the only one who knows how to code traffic management scripts?

- he knows PROD, but has 13% average prod? what a joke!

- he knows proxies, but I bet never herd of unsecured port ones whos generating fake hits on him daily.

- he knows how to make money, but doesn'T accept galleries wich are 100 times more cleans then what he lists.

stop thinking your god, we always have shit to learn. now what you think about me?

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and SLEAZY: asking AFF hows your traffic would be asking hows other tgps traffic since you get the most of your gallerry traffic from other sites then yours I'm sure. but hey fuck that, everyone has proxies problems on their sites.
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Old 09-13-2003, 03:54 PM   #152
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As far as the hitbots go, anyone who has any knowledge whatsoever about trade scripts, realizes that sites not using them are defenseless against hitbots.
this applies ESPICALLY to people like CHOKER since he's always looking for new trades.

I deal with mostly LONG TERM stable sites that have been around FOREVER. Most sites I trade with are a LOT OLDER than my site. (I really DOUBT choker can say that same, which is why he'd have to be soo afraid of hitbots.)

Age of a site and the owner's LONG TERM reputation are the considerations I have for trades actually.

VERY VERY VERY few of the people I deal with are hitbots. I'm not goign to say that hitbots don't exist, only a fool would say that. But to say my trades are all scamming me would be equally as foolish as they are all LONG TERM STABLE big players in the TGP game with great reputations. I watched their sites grow, and they all grew SLOWLY, over time.
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Old 09-13-2003, 03:54 PM   #153
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I'm a little worried for Choker with GS3 (or 4?) though....

I hope his surfers don't wind up "featured to death". KISS and all that.

But then, maybe that menu with the 100+ options wasn't intended for the surfers.
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is that me or choker thinks he's the only one who knows how to code traffic management scripts?

- he knows PROD, but has 13% average prod? what a joke!

- he knows proxies, but I bet never herd of unsecured port ones whos generating fake hits on him daily.

- he knows how to make money, but doesn'T accept galleries wich are 100 times more cleans then what he lists.

stop thinking your god, we always have shit to learn. now what you think about me?

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and SLEAZY: asking AFF hows your traffic would be asking hows other tgps traffic since you get the most of your gallerry traffic from other sites then yours I'm sure. but hey fuck that, everyone has proxies problems on their sites.
Choker can't code for shit. This is one thing he'll actually admit to.
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Old 09-13-2003, 03:55 PM   #155
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and SLEAZY: asking AFF hows your traffic would be asking hows other tgps traffic since you get the most of your gallerry traffic from other sites then yours I'm sure. but hey fuck that, everyone has proxies problems on their sites.
it's possible to seperate the source., and I listed other places to ASK about my traffic as well.
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Old 09-13-2003, 03:56 PM   #156
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So you're a GFY mod now? Thanks for clarifying that for me
Hey, if you want to ignore Amp's warnings on those two posts, that's fine by me. *shrugs*
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Hey, if you want to ignore Amp's warnings on those two posts, that's fine by me. *shrugs*
Thanks for your concern. No need to worry about me.
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Old 09-13-2003, 03:59 PM   #158
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- he knows how to make money, but doesn'T accept galleries wich are 100 times more cleans then what he lists.
Well, clean does not automatically equal money-making.
Choker prefers to put up galleries that will actually make use of any traffic they get.

I've seen some gorgeous clean galleries that don't sell worth crap, and some shitty galleries that sell like hotcakes.
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Old 09-13-2003, 03:59 PM   #159
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it's possible to seperate the source., and I listed other places to ASK about my traffic as well.
You can now create tracking ids for each page of your website by adding .sub<page> to the end of your partner id (e.g., p55150.submainpage, p55150.subnewsletter, p55150.subbanner). Click here to view stats and lookup your tracking ids

guess you were right LOL sorry
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is that me or choker thinks he's the only one who knows how to code traffic management scripts?

- he knows PROD, but has 13% average prod? what a joke!

- he knows proxies, but I bet never herd of unsecured port ones whos generating fake hits on him daily.

- he knows how to make money, but doesn'T accept galleries wich are 100 times more cleans then what he lists.

stop thinking your god, we always have shit to learn. now what you think about me?

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and SLEAZY: asking AFF hows your traffic would be asking hows other tgps traffic since you get the most of your gallerry traffic from other sites then yours I'm sure. but hey fuck that, everyone has proxies problems on their sites.
UMM, 13% CTR and productivity on just a gallery header and footer is quite good my friend. You are talking about apples, I am taling about oranges here.
As far as not accepting clean galleries, well I only sell gallery spots. Cleaner does not mean btter.
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You can now create tracking ids for each page of your website by adding .sub<page> to the end of your partner id (e.g., p55150.submainpage, p55150.subnewsletter, p55150.subbanner). Click here to view stats and lookup your tracking ids

guess you were right LOL sorry


I have a LOT of respect for someone who can admit they made a mistake.
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:01 PM   #162
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Thanks for your concern. No need to worry about me.
Here's a hint: *shrugs* at the end of a post generally means the poster could give a shit less.
Especially when the person being referenced feels it's okay to talk about someone's underage daughters swinging from his cock.
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:02 PM   #163
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Well, clean does not automatically equal money-making.
Choker prefers to put up galleries that will actually make use of any traffic they get.

I've seen some gorgeous clean galleries that don't sell worth crap, and some shitty galleries that sell like hotcakes.
yeah but some people can still make clean galleries and make good cash. if he accepted those, PROD would go up and I'd be making more money.
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:03 PM   #164
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I'm a little worried for Choker with GS3 (or 4?) though....

I hope his surfers don't wind up "featured to death". KISS and all that.

But then, maybe that menu with the 100+ options wasn't intended for the surfers.
that menu is indeed for webmasters. GS3 is doing fine. What the surfers see is very simple and to the point.
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:03 PM   #165
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- he knows proxies, but I bet never herd of unsecured port ones whos generating fake hits on him daily.

Curious what you're talking about here.

Unsecured proxies being open proxies?

Those are the most common proxies out there?



But regardless of proxies, there are quite a few skillful ways to identify bunk traffic.... identifying proxies in almost real-time & comparing the proxy % from one sender against the systems average is just one of them.
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yeah but some people can still make clean galleries and make good cash. if he accepted those, PROD would go up and I'd be making more money.
PRODUCTIVITY would not go up sir. Trust me I have tested, retested,and retested this so many times it is not even funny.
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that menu is indeed for webmasters. GS3 is doing fine. What the surfers see is very simple and to the point.
Good deal then

I don't dig around too much on your sites anymore, but I figured it could be used to create more custom niche-specific gallery links for (your clients) TGP's.
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And you're only now gracing us with your presence. Didn't you hear...I'm a pedo now. I was hoping you join the frey and jump all over me too
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PRODUCTIVITY would not go up sir. Trust me I have tested, retested,and retested this so many times it is not even funny.
that surprises me alot!

you tried ONLY clean galleries?

or like 90% shit and 10% clean?
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Good deal then

I don't dig around too much on your sites anymore, but I figured it could be used to create more custom niche-specific gallery links for (your clients) TGP's.
Yes well it is designed so any tgp can use it and get traffic back, here http://www.quicktgp.com/gs3/categories.php
are the niches created to date. When done there should be thousands. But this thread is not about my programs. Honestly I started it with the intent of telling others what I truly think about some people. So ask away please. There are a few others I think are complete assholes nobody has asked about yet.
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Sexzity is one of the very few exit traffic brokers I trust. He generates his own traffic so he has more control over it. So many people do not stop to ask brokers if their traffic they sell comes from others website owners. This is so important, but usually overlooked.
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choker: can you answer my second post at the end of page 3 please

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do your kids call you choker or dad?
Dad, yet lately they are getting this bad habit of calling me "Tom" when they really want my attention. They do it to aggrevate me. LOL
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Sexzity is one of the very few exit traffic brokers I trust. He generates his own traffic so he has more control over it. So many people do not stop to ask brokers if their traffic they sell comes from others website owners. This is so important, but usually overlooked.
I would't write this before after you have posted. I allways send buyers, there want clicks to you, becouse you are the no 1 traffic seller.

I realy hope to meat you some day
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choker: can you answer my second post at the end of page 3 please

thanks?
You mean about my traffic? no sir I cannot. The amount of traffic I have is really of no concern to anyone. I do not sell banner spots or advertising rated by my page veiws or uniques. I sell all traffic by the click. If you need to know how much traffic I can deliver a day if you are a prosepctive buyer, then you can look at my CTTS Stats pages

http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web.../tabs2.php?tt=
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http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web...s2.php?tt=gal_

This is what is for sale, not what I send to TGPS for listing my galleries, nor my total traffic to all my sites. There really is no reason to display those stats other than a ego boost. I feel it is better to keep my competition guessing.

And yes Sleazy I sell more per day to TGPs than your TGP gets.
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I know better dear. You're no sexed. If anyone deserves bullshit, it's him, but he always seems to slip through the cracks. You just made a dumb comment. If everyone on the board got a bum rap everytime they said something stupid, everyone would be feeling the sting
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that surprises me alot!

you tried ONLY clean galleries?

or like 90% shit and 10% clean?
Webmasters want clean, unique, pretty galleries.

Surfers do not care.
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You mean about my traffic? no sir I cannot. The amount of traffic I have is really of no concern to anyone. I do not sell banner spots or advertising rated by my page veiws or uniques. I sell all traffic by the click. If you need to know how much traffic I can deliver a day if you are a prosepctive buyer, then you can look at my CTTS Stats pages

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http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web...s2.php?tt=for_
http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web...s2.php?tt=gal_

This is what is for sale, not what I send to TGPS for listing my galleries, nor my total traffic to all my sites. There really is no reason to display those stats other than a ego boost. I feel it is better to keep my competition guessing.

And yes Sleazy I sell more per day to TGPs than your TGP gets.

no I asked mainly because you atacked sleazys traffic quality,

and if you look up sleazydream.com vs chokenchiken.com on alexa,

you see his traffic very strong and stable for 2 years

and yours is up and down, and much lower than him,

no I understand from your design, that you have lots of traffi flowing around and multiple pages views and lots of tracking tools,

and gallery brokering it not the same as running one tgp,

but I wonder what it is that you think is so much better about your traffic compared to his,

he seems to be more stable and of higher quality and higher traffic numbers in my opinion,

why is it your shit does not stick???

what other sites do you have that alexa rating does not show?
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HAHAH sir, chokinchicken is a site I may check up on once a month. Look up chickenhost.com, bigfreepics.com, galleryspots.com, I have many others. chokinchicken.com is nothing. Sleazy started attacking my traffic first, so maybe you can go back to page 1 of this thread and read this? I never said chokinchicken was better than Sleaydream.com Sleazy thinks he is safe from hitbots because he does not use a trade script. This is EXACTLY opposite from the truth. And he claims there are many complaints about hitbots in my traffic? where are these complaints? He can't produce them, so once again his big fat mouth is ahead of his brain. I am only saying what many want to say about Sleazy, but are afraid to.
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HAHAH sir, chokinchicken is a site I may check up on once a month. Look up chickenhost.com, bigfreepics.com, galleryspots.com, I have many others. chokinchicken.com is nothing. Sleazy started attacking my traffic first, so maybe you can go back to page 1 of this thread and read this? I never said chokinchicken was better than Sleaydream.com Sleazy thinks he is safe from hitbots because he does not use a trade script. This is EXACTLY opposite from the truth. And he claims there are many complaints about hitbots in my traffic? where are these complaints? He can't produce them, so once again his big fat mouth is ahead of his brain. I am only saying what many want to say about Sleazy, but are afraid to.
you raise some ok points,

but one I have seen you many a time ranting on cheaters here,

two, you started with him calling his sites shit and picking a fight,

i know you have traffic and so do many people and that why I asked,

anyways I looked up

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...host.com#graph

sleazy also has more traffic than this site and many more years

chicken host is very new and dying off a bit, I dont call that stable,

its impressive, as all your traffic is but, you have your strengths and he has his,

I think you have mass traffic and ability to send quality hits to galleries, but I dont think your sites are stables of the tgp world, I dont think the quality is the same or the stability, I think you area target for cheaters because there is so many intricacies to exploit,

sleazy is not a easy mark and he trades with reputable people, and I dont think but a few sites match what he has,

I jsut dont understand why your starting shit with him,

hes not a cheater, and not a asshole,

your aparantly with your rep not a cheater, but a bit of a asshole,

thanks all im getting at,
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:58 PM   #189
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in the past I have introduced myself on icq and was ignored, so that says something about you and your attitude also
it's funny, but people remember being ignored on icq for a long damn time.
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it's funny, but people remember being ignored on icq for a long damn time.
its true, being dont like being ignored,

I mean you get over it, but it does stay with you,

but liek he said icq lite is fucked and the spam filters block stuff,

people often say hi this is my url, and that gets blocked,
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I don't know or care about your opinion of me but we have bought traffic from you. The hoops you made us jump through taught us that you know your business better than we do and we learned from you.
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what was your final conversion ratio for the little pissing match with p!mpd0g?
We never finished it. After he realized that I had set him up, we had a good laugh, shook hands and that was that. Since then we have had no more pissing matches. I have no problems with him whatsoever. Our fights were extremely entertaining. We both did it more for fun than actual malice towards each other.
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you raise some ok points,

but one I have seen you many a time ranting on cheaters here,

two, you started with him calling his sites shit and picking a fight,

i know you have traffic and so do many people and that why I asked,

anyways I looked up

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...host.com#graph

sleazy also has more traffic than this site and many more years

chicken host is very new and dying off a bit, I dont call that stable,

its impressive, as all your traffic is but, you have your strengths and he has his,

I think you have mass traffic and ability to send quality hits to galleries, but I dont think your sites are stables of the tgp world, I dont think the quality is the same or the stability, I think you area target for cheaters because there is so many intricacies to exploit,

sleazy is not a easy mark and he trades with reputable people, and I dont think but a few sites match what he has,

I jsut dont understand why your starting shit with him,

hes not a cheater, and not a asshole,

your aparantly with your rep not a cheater, but a bit of a asshole,

thanks all im getting at,
AGAIN SIR, please go to page one, and read from the top. I did not start calling Sleazy's sites shit. Where are you getting this from? He started hinting that my traffic was shit and fake. He does this ALL the time on GFY to others too. Sleazy thinks any new tgp with any traffic at all is cheating. Why? Because he is living in the past. He is the one that feels THREATENED by any new TGP that crawls over 100k a day, not me. As far as you quoting Alexa ratings? That means NOTHING. Sleazy is a much bigger asshole than I am. Do a search on him and read all the accusations he throws around at others.
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ugh. I am probably younger than most of you here, but I feel like I am in the kindergarten after reading this thread.
Your mature, intelligent people, and you can't solve your differences in a more acceptable manner?

this thread also reminds me of this pic


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Sorry about the loops, I just introduced a "traffic banking" system that is making CTTS much easier to use. Also many upgrades are in the works to make everything easier and faster.
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AGAIN SIR, please go to page one, and read from the top. I did not start calling Sleazy's sites shit. Where are you getting this from? He started hinting that my traffic was shit and fake. He does this ALL the time on GFY to others too. Sleazy thinks any new tgp with any traffic at all is cheating. Why? Because he is living in the past. He is the one that feels THREATENED by any new TGP that crawls over 100k a day, not me. As far as you quoting Alexa ratings? That means NOTHING. Sleazy is a much bigger asshole than I am. Do a search on him and read all the accusations he throws around at others.
your somewhat right there is no love lost between the too of you aprantly,

but you did atack him first stating that he lives in the past,

and you have done that repeatedly,

at any rate, new sites that should up at 100 over night, are alwys script run, and the traffic flow is artificaial and forced,
and it always jumps way up and crashs way down,

and in general, a high percentage of new sites with over night success are cheaters,

and the traffic is shit, and the traffic is un stable,

old sites often has 600% productivity, and new sites can have as little as 30%,

many new site use multiple categories and a asortment of ways to make people click without burning the traffic,

IE no exits or tricks, jsut clean listings, with scripts redirects blind traffic,

its a delicate balance which you have mastered,

and in general large script driven sites can generate good sales with fustrated, targets pre filtered un experienced surfers,

and I think you are among the best at that,

but what slezy is doing is not the same, im not saying it bette or worse, but its not the same,

hes building bookmarks and tradding on quality clicking traffic, and building loyalty which also translates to sales,

its 2 seprate aproachs, each has its week parts and strong parts,

you both insulted each other,

and to me you came off badly talking shit,


I dont see how that helps you sell spots or atrack customers from GFY?

and ive hung out and known slezy a while and he not a asshole,

ok, thats pretty much it, I think we understand each other a bit better,
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your somewhat right there is no love lost between the too of you aprantly,

but you did atack him first stating that he lives in the past,

and you have done that repeatedly,

at any rate, new sites that should up at 100 over night, are alwys script run, and the traffic flow is artificaial and forced,
and it always jumps way up and crashs way down,

and in general, a high percentage of new sites with over night success are cheaters,

and the traffic is shit, and the traffic is un stable,

old sites often has 600% productivity, and new sites can have as little as 30%,

many new site use multiple categories and a asortment of ways to make people click without burning the traffic,

IE no exits or tricks, jsut clean listings, with scripts redirects blind traffic,

its a delicate balance which you have mastered,

and in general large script driven sites can generate good sales with fustrated, targets pre filtered un experienced surfers,

and I think you are among the best at that,

but what slezy is doing is not the same, im not saying it bette or worse, but its not the same,

hes building bookmarks and tradding on quality clicking traffic, and building loyalty which also translates to sales,

its 2 seprate aproachs, each has its week parts and strong parts,

you both insulted each other,

and to me you came off badly talking shit,


I dont see how that helps you sell spots or atrack customers from GFY?

and ive hung out and known slezy a while and he not a asshole,

ok, thats pretty much it, I think we understand each other a bit better,
You are correct in all points, but I did state that I will post my honest opinion about people. Sleazy is a arrogant punk that thinks he is better than anyone else. He constantly talks smack about things he knows absolutely nothing about. make a thread and title it "My gallery listing at (insert a Sleazy trade here)" post and watch him come in and attack the gallery maker calling his gallery shit, calling him a dumbass, etc. He is pissed at me first and foremost because he invited me to the "Elite TGP" party last year at Vegas and I turned him down. This offended him. I was not rude, I just told him the truth. I have kids and could not get away. But he turns it around into a "then you are afraid to meet people face to face thing". What the fuck ever. This guy is like my Ex-wife, he turns shit around to suit his needs.
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You are correct in all points, but I did state that I will post my honest opinion about people. Sleazy is a arrogant punk that thinks he is better than anyone else. He constantly talks smack about things he knows absolutely nothing about. make a thread and title it "My gallery listing at (insert a Sleazy trade here)" post and watch him come in and attack the gallery maker calling his gallery shit, calling him a dumbass, etc. He is pissed at me first and foremost because he invited me to the "Elite TGP" party last year at Vegas and I turned him down. This offended him. I was not rude, I just told him the truth. I have kids and could not get away. But he turns it around into a "then you are afraid to meet people face to face thing". What the fuck ever. This guy is like my Ex-wife, he turns shit around to suit his needs.
lol, ok ok, no love lost,

maybe you guys are more alike than youd liek to admin

PS WHAT Do you think of me, lol
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He seems to have his heart in the right place, just very confused. If he were to put even half the energy into work that he puts into trying to make people respect him, he would be a millionaire in days
i expected alot worst.

thanks man, and yes you are right ...
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