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Old 09-13-2003, 06:18 PM   #201
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:26 PM   #202
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i expected alot worst.

thanks man, and yes you are right ...
Actually after seeing your sig, my opinion just changed of you. You are naive enough to make a deal with that idiot? Last time I remember hearing about someone making a deal with that looser, was when The Fly accused his "partner" of hacking his site and could never show proof of it. Watch yourself man, TheFly talks a lot of talk, but what has he really accomplished? NOTHING
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:32 PM   #203
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ok fine. You know Sleazy, I would be willing to bet money that 25 to 40% of your traffic is FAKE. The way you brag about not using a trade script and hardlinking to trades is so fucking funny. You think you are safe from hitbots, but in fact, EVERYONE here who knows anything about this subject is laughing AT YOU. You are in fact the TGP cheaters target, simply because you have NO DEFENSE AGAINST HITBOTS. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Yo seriously his traffic rock . I had a trade with him and he has one of the best productivity (with sublime directory) . And his big trades are with big tgps that don't have to cheat . His small trades are 2k + a day (well maybe more since his site grew) but with a kickass productivity
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:34 PM   #204
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lol, ok ok, no love lost,

maybe you guys are more alike than youd liek to admin

PS WHAT Do you think of me, lol
I'm going to go out on a limb here. I will not even look at your site until AFTER I post here, so I may end up pulling my foot out of my mouth.

1. You are a old timer that still trades the old way, no scripts. You are either afraid to learn scripts, or are set in your ways and do not like change.

2. You are very loyal to your friends, which is good, but the loyalty sometimes blinds you to the truth, IE That Sleazy is a punk asshole.

3. You are a very methodical and logical person.

4. You say you would not buy from me because I am rude, but that is not true. You would do business with anyone you trust. Rudeness has nothing to do with it.

Should I eat my shoe now or what? LOL
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:35 PM   #205
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I LOVE GFY DRAMA

Can't believe that two established grown men can fight over nothing. Wow, really makes me think.

Chocker - Love the innovations
AMP - Love the house
Sleazy - Love the... Hmm, well looking forward to a traffic trade one day.

Once again. I LOVE GFY DRAMA
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:41 PM   #206
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I'm going to go out on a limb here. I will not even look at your site until AFTER I post here, so I may end up pulling my foot out of my mouth.

1. You are a old timer that still trades the old way, no scripts. You are either afraid to learn scripts, or are set in your ways and do not like change.

2. You are very loyal to your friends, which is good, but the loyalty sometimes blinds you to the truth, IE That Sleazy is a punk asshole.

3. You are a very methodical and logical person.

4. You say you would not buy from me because I am rude, but that is not true. You would do business with anyone you trust. Rudeness has nothing to do with it.

Should I eat my shoe now or what? LOL
to some extent you are right,

on vidsvidsvids.com I have 250+K a day and no script

but on our other sites we use ucj an rb4,

hanksgalleries.com 200K a day, and moviegalleries.com 10K set for relaunch, both script,

PS you said the other day that people nead to evolve and wake up adn look at the sextracker top 20 to see things changing,

im nuber 16most days, and you dont know my site???

you should take your own advice, lol, jsut nit picking,

but yah you got me pegged for the most part, I dont like script driven traffic, usually when I have a script driven trade I ask the webmaster to send to my index page rather than my main, if they are gonna force big traffic to me I rather run it by a full page ad, to even out the loss in productivity,
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Old 09-13-2003, 06:55 PM   #207
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to some extent you are right,

on vidsvidsvids.com I have 250+K a day and no script

but on our other sites we use ucj an rb4,

hanksgalleries.com 200K a day, and moviegalleries.com 10K set for relaunch, both script,

PS you said the other day that people nead to evolve and wake up adn look at the sextracker top 20 to see things changing,

im nuber 16most days, and you dont know my site???

you should take your own advice, lol, jsut nit picking,

but yah you got me pegged for the most part, I dont like script driven traffic, usually when I have a script driven trade I ask the webmaster to send to my index page rather than my main, if they are gonna force big traffic to me I rather run it by a full page ad, to even out the loss in productivity,
To be honest, I rarely look at Sextracker. But when I do I see oldtimers slipping in the ranks. As far as script trades giving better produtivity, yes they do, but here's something to ponder...

a 100k a day TGP trading with no trade script

Can send out 20k a day to trades hard linked text links to the trades. That traffic on his trades he sends has a productiivty of 400%. So he sent 20k to trades with 400% productivity on his trades sites.

a 100k a day TGP trading with a trade script

Can send out 80k a day to trades skimmed from galleries. That traffic he sends his trades is only 200% productivity. So he sent 80k to trades with 200% productivty on his trades sites.

So which is better for growth? Let's not forget that the script TGP replaces his toplist with galleries and gets a instant extra 10k a day to his TGP right off the bat.
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Old 09-13-2003, 07:55 PM   #208
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Can't believe that two established grown men can fight over nothing. Wow, really makes me think.

Chocker - Love the innovations
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Sleazy - Love the... Hmm, well looking forward to a traffic trade one day.

Once again. I LOVE GFY DRAMA
how fucking dumb are you

it's "choker"

not "chocker"

next time it's best not to post. otherwise you migh just end up displaying to everyone what a total retard you are.

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Old 09-13-2003, 07:59 PM   #209
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how fucking dumb are you

it's "choker"

not "chocker"

next time it's best not to post. otherwise you migh just end up displaying to everyone what a total retard you are.

Thank you for pointing this out.
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:03 PM   #210
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:12 PM   #211
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Thanks man...but AMP just said that it was uncalled for. Yeah it was...but all's fair in love and war. Choker declared "war" on me a long time ago. This is nothing new.
You don't have children, do you? If you do...what would you do if anything was said bad about them?

There are certain things that aren't acceptable places..and bringing children into an arguement is one of them.

But you sound way too unintelligent to understand this.
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Just a heads up but defending Sleazy is impossible as the guy is an asshole. Maybe in person he is ok but on here he is a prick 90% of the time.
Choker might be hot headed but he appears to respond to reason.
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:16 PM   #213
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how fucking dumb are you

it's "choker"

not "chocker"

next time it's best not to post. otherwise you migh just end up displaying to everyone what a total retard you are.

Im sorry I dont have time to look over my posts 10 times for typos, I have more important issues on my hands.

Newbie
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:18 PM   #214
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you raise some ok points,

but one I have seen you many a time ranting on cheaters here,

two, you started with him calling his sites shit and picking a fight,

i know you have traffic and so do many people and that why I asked,

anyways I looked up

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...host.com#graph

sleazy also has more traffic than this site and many more years

chicken host is very new and dying off a bit, I dont call that stable,

its impressive, as all your traffic is but, you have your strengths and he has his,

I think you have mass traffic and ability to send quality hits to galleries, but I dont think your sites are stables of the tgp world, I dont think the quality is the same or the stability, I think you area target for cheaters because there is so many intricacies to exploit,

sleazy is not a easy mark and he trades with reputable people, and I dont think but a few sites match what he has,

I jsut dont understand why your starting shit with him,

hes not a cheater, and not a asshole,

your aparantly with your rep not a cheater, but a bit of a asshole,

thanks all im getting at,
Alexa has far more Asia users than US users. You need to consider this when looking at traffic by Alexa alone.
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:25 PM   #217
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You are correct in all points, but I did state that I will post my honest opinion about people. Sleazy is a arrogant punk that thinks he is better than anyone else. He constantly talks smack about things he knows absolutely nothing about. make a thread and title it "My gallery listing at (insert a Sleazy trade here)" post and watch him come in and attack the gallery maker calling his gallery shit, calling him a dumbass, etc. He is pissed at me first and foremost because he invited me to the "Elite TGP" party last year at Vegas and I turned him down. This offended him. I was not rude, I just told him the truth. I have kids and could not get away. But he turns it around into a "then you are afraid to meet people face to face thing". What the fuck ever. This guy is like my Ex-wife, he turns shit around to suit his needs.
oh my fucking GOD do you EVER live in a fantasy world.
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Sleazy is a arrogant punk that thinks he is better than anyone else.

wrong.

I AM better than EVERYONE else.
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Just a heads up but defending Sleazy is impossible as the guy is an asshole. Maybe in person he is ok but on here he is a prick 90% of the time.
Choker might be hot headed but he appears to respond to reason.
let me guess, you did something stupid that I bitchslapped you for on here?

sorry that i don't remember. Obvioulsy you wern't that sugnificant enough to warrent me recording it in my memory.
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how fucking dumb are you

it's "choker"

not "chocker"

next time it's best not to post. otherwise you migh just end up displaying to everyone what a total retard you are.

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how fucking dumb are you

it's "choker"

not "chocker"

next time it's best not to post. otherwise you migh just end up displaying to everyone what a total retard you are.


my your spelling is good, one question though. What does the word "migh" mean?


there's nothing sweeter than proving a self rightous IDIOT is in fact a TOTAL self rightous idiot.
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Well the jury is still out on what exactly happened that day. Trex assured me nothing unethical happened. It was a very confusing day with many things happening all at one time. Not knowing what I know now, I realize I was not very nice to the guys at TM3, and I do apoligize for the things I said. But at the same time, they could have done a lot more than they did to explain to everyone what was going on. I am not happy with the way our "partnership" ended in hard feelings between us. They are good guys, mistakes were made. Life goes on.
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you're absolutly right - there's SOOO much more money in buying spots with you on LEGITIMATE sites that are only 3 months old and have 400K.....

Dont hate the playerz hate the game bitch.
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You're real fucking sad choker. Funny you never showed you face to me in Flordia. After some of the BULLSHIT you're yammering on about today ( and it's total just jealosy) I truly belive that you don't have 2 brain cells to run together.

let me see - who have you slammed in this thread.

anyone who doesn't BOW DOWN to you...


that pretty much sums it up.


sad - real fuckin sad.


no wonder spot brokers grew to be larger than you in a few months.
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Dont hate the playerz hate the game bitch.
there's a difference between hate and laughing my fucking ass off.

someday annomous posters like you will come to realize that... but some big fat black cell mate will be pounding you in the ass when the light finally hits you.
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there's a difference between hate and laughing my fucking ass off.

someday annomous posters like you will come to realize that... but some big fat black cell mate will be pounding you in the ass when the light finally hits you.
annomous me? look at my profile bitch i have been reg here longer then you go fuck with some newbies that might be impressed by you.

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Choker I can't help but respect you for sharing your 100% honest opinions,
I always respect people that give true opinions about people but sometimes I think it is better to keep your opinions to yourself especially in business
I just feel these kind of posts can lead to enemies

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Old 09-14-2003, 12:49 AM   #235
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your traffic sucks balls for sales, its only good for production on tgp,

you are a stupid old man and have to learn how to filter it properly.

now pleae go back to the drawing board.
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:14 AM   #236
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my your spelling is good, one question though. What does the word "migh" mean?


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let me guess, you did something stupid that I bitchslapped you for on here?

sorry that i don't remember. Obvioulsy you wern't that sugnificant enough to warrent me recording it in my memory.
I don't think you should say anything about anyone else's spelling until you spell correctly yourself
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:38 AM   #237
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...At 10 I was selling Grit newspapers at the local grocery store...
Wow, that's a paper I haven't heard about in ages. I grew up in the town in was published in before it was sold and moved to Kansas.
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:39 AM   #238
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I have a question
Do you think if someone enters this industry now with a $100 investment, but is smarter than you, The Hun and Lensam together, it's possible that he will be one of the big players in 5 years.... ?
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:41 AM   #239
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This was my favorite thread of the week
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:52 AM   #240
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this is, indeed, one of the classics.

and why the hell do you suppose so many people spell choker as "chocker"?
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:39 AM   #241
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and why the hell do you suppose so many people spell choker as "chocker"?
Probably for the same "brainfart" reason people use the word learned in place of taught, or think choker's traffic sucks...

(im going by the countless "wheres a good source to buy traffic" threads where choker's traffic has been praised and reccomended by sooo many different people)
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:44 AM   #242
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Old 09-14-2003, 04:32 AM   #243
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Besides...what do you care what I say about someone elses kid when you don't give two shits about your own.


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Old 09-14-2003, 05:34 AM   #244
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I'm here to defend choker (no, he didn't pay me for typing this)

Jason, you suck. You were just kissing SleazyDreams ass, because you thought Choker was just a 20k tgp runner. The only thing you look at is Alexa rank. Alexa can lick my balls, their stats dont mean shit to 99,23% of all webmasters.

SleazyDream, you can be very jiggalo sometimes.

I'm gonna take a shower now, brb.
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Old 09-14-2003, 06:19 AM   #245
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Sites that grow quickly must have hitbots or shit traffic? Does doubling from one month to the next apply?

http://newstats.sextracker.com/st?sk...stats.RangeT=0



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VERY VERY VERY few of the people I deal with are hitbots. I'm not goign to say that hitbots don't exist, only a fool would say that. But to say my trades are all scamming me would be equally as foolish as they are all LONG TERM STABLE big players in the TGP game with great reputations. I watched their sites grow, and they all grew SLOWLY, over time.
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Old 09-14-2003, 06:57 AM   #246
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Sites that grow quickly must have hitbots or shit traffic? Does doubling from one month to the next apply?

http://newstats.sextracker.com/st?sk...stats.RangeT=0



Weird sextracker shows a big jump in traffic Sextracker But Alexa shows a drop in traffic Alexa
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Old 09-14-2003, 06:57 AM   #247
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Post your opinion on me please.
I will not reply with a stanic post war as SleazyDream. Just I want to know your opinion.

My opinion about you is
No joke, wihtout your banning me from your system I probably would be still trying to push my 2k TGP listing your galleries. After that I put my ass on work and I will open in soon some new sites, so perhaps our business will cross paths (but not swords) again.

Time will show what will happen.

From now... a bit THANK YOU FOR BANNING ME from your gallery spots.

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Old 09-14-2003, 09:32 AM   #248
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What do you think of Serge?
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Old 09-14-2003, 09:48 AM   #249
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Old 09-14-2003, 10:08 AM   #250
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I'm here to defend choker (no, he didn't pay me for typing this)

Jason, you suck. You were just kissing SleazyDreams ass, because you thought Choker was just a 20k tgp runner. The only thing you look at is Alexa rank. Alexa can lick my balls, their stats dont mean shit to 99,23% of all webmasters.

SleazyDream, you can be very jiggalo sometimes.

I'm gonna take a shower now, brb.
come on dude, do you know me??? no,

do you know choker NO?? so your sucking his ass,

do you know sleazy ?? no

sleazy is a asociate of mine, I trade traffic with him, anyways he does not nead my defending, I took offence to what chocker was saying about him and his type of site, and since I trade with sleazy adn other sites sleazy trades with, if was commenting more on chockers attitude adn his opinions on sleazy traffic,

I was not kissing sleazys ass, I respect him there is a difference,

as for choker I did not think he was a 20K tgper, and I was not relying on alexa as some sort of traffic god,

so get over your self, read the posts I was asking chocker about his traffic and why he thinks its so good, I was jsut getting a cleare picture,

I know of choker but dont know him personaly, and I have known about his sites for a long time and the traffic they have,

I was not clear on his other sites and the extent of his traffic system,

anyways alxa is good for watching trends I was using it to ilustrate how chockers traffics goes up and down depending on how hard he works his scripts,

adn how sleazys traffic stays steady year after year,

thats all I was getting at, dont right stupid post trying to make me out to be some kinda amateur,

what sites do you run by the way??? what makes you a traffic expert,

myself I control 600,000 hits a day, and having been, doing galleries and tgp, mgp for 4 years

how about you???
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