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directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

...sense of security people are getting from thinking the job is "done" ...

It's not done??? I saw a pilot president BUSH on a carrier off Bagdad shores say:

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 12:26 PM

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
<img src=http://merlin2.alleg.edu/employee/e/epallant/images/TV1.words.trans.gif border="0">

LOL...

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 12:33 PM

Direct Fiesta,

Who is Canada's head of state?

eatapeach · 09-30-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
So again, ONE POLL taken by some newspaper a bajillion miles from reality and thats how americans feel?

i don't know if you noticed but the week following this poll the White House wen't all out to say they had nothing to do with this notion.

if i recall correctly donald rumsfeld and condoleeza rice went on news shows to deny having implied this, and resident bush even came out and made a statement link

so obviously the white house felt this was an important poll.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Colin
Direct Fiesta,

Who is Canada's head of state?

Do you mean Prime Minister?

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Do you mean Prime Minister?

No, I mean head of state.

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Colin
Direct Fiesta,

Who is Canada's head of state?

The perfectly ordinary, perfectly mediocre Jean Chretian. He may be a fucktard, but he's made a lot of moves and done a lot of things that show some sense. I wish he could stick around for a while.. he may not be a "shining star" but he hasn't done anything exceedingly bad or stupid lately either.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

The perfectly ordinary, perfectly mediocre Jean Chretian.

You got the answer wrong ;-)

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by eatapeach

i don't know if you noticed but the week following this poll the White House wen't all out to say they had nothing to do with this notion.

Nope, I didnt notice because I dont watch CNN like the rest of you hahaha

Its funny when these threads come. IM an american and I do not watch cnn or fox or any of that shit. I dont even watch the LA news often. Why? Because I know its all based on fear, and i learned that shit when geraldo was making his bullshit claims about Satanist Baby Killing. Which there has NEVER BEEN ANY IN THE US EVER, but he was putting out shows left and right about the KKK and the Satanist Baby Killers.

I gave up on americas media long ago.

Please dont lump me in with your american bashing.

I am not your 'average american' I do not support what is happening and I could actually be imprisoned if I stated my beliefs on such things regarding Bush and his fucking christian kid fucking legion.

Did you read this where he says General Clark tld him he had been contacted by the Bush Admin when this first happened to go on the news and say Saddam was involved? THIS WAS BEFORE any of this crap. And WAY before your Washington Post Poll.

http://michaelmoore.com/words/index....ate=2003-09-23

http://www.raisethefist.com/index1.html

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

No, I mean head of state.

Monarch.

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

You got the answer wrong ;-)

If you mean the Queen, sure. However, she doesn't make any decisions regarding how the country is run.

JDog · 09-30-2003, 12:47 PM

No their not gone! There's hundreds of them! There's no way we got rid of all of them!

jDoG

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

If you mean the Queen, sure. However, she doesn't make any decisions regarding how the country is run.

Right, since Canada is a constitutional monarchy the Queen is the head of state. A recent poll shows that a majority of
Canadians don?t know this basic point about their government.

http://erg.environics.net/news/default.asp?aID=406

I?m sure I could dig up many more but that?s my last one. I don't like insulting entire nations especially one that my family comes from.

The point is that people like Direct Fiesta go looking for proof of ?the dumb American? and ignore all the stupid things believed and not known in their own country.

eatapeach · 09-30-2003, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Please dont lump me in with your american bashing.

i'm not america bashing, and i didn't do anything other than respond to and then follow-up to your initial question.

you and i share the same opinions more often than not.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

The point is that people like Direct Fiesta go looking for proof of ?the dumb American? and ignore all the stupid things believed and not known in their own country.

Show mw where " ignore all the stupid things believed and not known in their own country. "

I will just point out that this thread is not about " what Canadian thinks" but about " what AMERICANS think..."

Nobody prevents you from starting your own new thread.

The Poll that I cited was an American poll, done by americans ( well, maybe from outsourcing India..lol) about american beliefs...

BTW. I do not look for " proof", it is just there to scoop... just like shit!

And I do not fall for your stupid student tricks ( sorry ladymischief, but you were not suspicious enough, and fell for it).

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Look who's talking. You're a parrot of your local news and neighbors. Somehow you think the information age has skipped the country that most contributed to it. American media is much more diversified than yours.

Righty-ho Colin.

Prove to us that the majority of Americans are free thinkers.

This should be fun...

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 12:56 PM

Cool.

I was actually considering going down to the Hollywood Rally a couple days ago and take pictures.

I really love the fact that things like this are going on outside and just blocks from me.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/272/...h_coast:.shtml

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

Righty-ho Colin.

Prove to us that the majority of Americans are free thinkers.

This should be fun...

I've seen little evidence that such people exist in number anywhere. What few there are find each other and break the spell.

beergood · 09-30-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Yet, a new poll found that nearly 70 percent of respondents believed the Iraqi leader probably was personally involved. Rumsfeld said, "I've not seen any indication that would lead me to believe that I could say that."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/09/17/sprj.irq.bush.ap/

CNN. is that OK???? not my LOCAL news....

Poll was published by the Washington Post. I really wont dig more.

I'v seen things like this many times more than I can count. On many occasions after something like this is thrown up in our face I've discussed it with family, friends and other fellow university students just to see if other people feel this way. The answer has been "no" probably 95% of the time. Who the fuck are they polling?

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
When americans show what they think the white supremisits and the rest of the ALLOWED HATE GROUPS come after you.

http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/386907.php

Death Threats for a website.

And ironically it's the "patriotic right" that seem to be doing most of the threatening.

Most of the hate mail seems to be posted on left leaning sites, and it was directed towards them.

FreeRepublic.com - that bastion of conservatism will ban you for posting anything left of William Kristol.

"Patriotism" now seems to mean "Do what we say", not "Do what the constitution says".

Now who says American is going down the pan?

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
That's correct. This is just an lack of objective information and low average level of education. Most part of the US people even have no idea who Osama bin Laden is, where he was trained and who gave him the power etc... Sad but true

I can't remember the comedian's name, but one line he said really stuck in my mind:

"Between the coasts, USA is just one big trailer park."

LadyMischief · 09-30-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Right, since Canada is a constitutional monarchy the Queen is the head of state. A recent poll shows that a majority of
Canadians don?t know this basic point about their government.

http://erg.environics.net/news/default.asp?aID=406

I?m sure I could dig up many more but that?s my last one. I don't like insulting entire nations especially one that my family comes from.

The point is that people like Direct Fiesta go looking for proof of ?the dumb American? and ignore all the stupid things believed and not known in their own country.

Well my point in this thread certainly wasn't to go looking for the "dumb American". I honestly wanted to know if this is what Americans think. My country isn't perfect, I never claimed it was.. However I'm very realistic, I have yet to see ANY country that's perfect. But it would sadden me to think that the majority of average Americans, the guys who should be informed of better by the media and whomever else, would believe that Al Queda was gone.. I've pretty much got my answer though

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Show mw where " ignore all the stupid things believed and not known in their own country. "

You want me to prove that you ignore something? That's sort of a bizarre request. It would be easier for you to prove the opposite.

I'm sure you have a good memory and can remember your own posts. Show me just one post dated before today where you show evidence of ignorance in your own country.

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

You got the answer wrong ;-)

How is this relevant Colin?

You may have book smarts, but from your posts you seem to be rather lacking in common sense.

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

I've seen little evidence that such people exist in number anywhere. What few there are find each other and break the spell.

So you're admitting that the majority of Americans are ignorant morons?

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

I'm sure you have a good memory and can remember your own posts. Show me just one post dated before today where you show evidence of ignorance in your own country.

It is funny it seems some americans on this board QUESTION their country more than others, but its always the non-americans who feel the need to daily POINT OUT America's faults.

People like me, do not follow the leader and I question everything these people try and feed us, whether its Rumsfield or Geraldo.

I've rarely seen anyone question their own country here aside from americans.

sad if you think about it.

We may be in a bad situation, but it was NOT the merican peoples fault and its a shame that these other countries feel that it is ALL of us who stand behind this christian monkey and his alcoholic war monger oil buddies.

I am american but some of US are almost ASHAMED of it, and it really disgusts me to see my country be brought down to its current level.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

So you're admitting that the majority of Americans are ignorant morons?

One word.

Hell Fucking Yes.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

You want me to prove that you ignore something? That's sort of a bizarre request. It would be easier for you to prove the opposite.

I'm sure you have a good memory and can remember your own posts. Show me just one post dated before today where you show evidence of ignorance in your own country.

So don't bring it up... if you can't back it up.

PS: why do you find that " bizarre" ... It does ressemble to this american logic:

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If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.

Ari Fleischer December 2, 2002

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I've rarely seen anyone question their own country here aside from americans.

They do. They just don't post it here.

I'm pretty sure it's because many Americans congregate here, so they're an easy target.

And with a huge military and a dumb president, the US can have quite an effect on the rest of the world. So people make their thoughts heard.

Mr. Jim · 09-30-2003, 01:16 PM

Not at all

This will plague the world for many generations

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by jimholio
Not at all

This will plague the world for many generations

Terrorism has always been around in one form or another.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

So you're admitting that the majority of Americans are ignorant morons?

Somewhere around 2% of people are morons. I don't know what percentage of those are ignorant.

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I've rarely seen anyone question their own country here aside from americans.

I sure would of and will if our government engages in war based on foul intelligence , without the UN , on a pre-emptive philosophy and for personnal reasons .

We have troops in Afghanistan and don't need to question this.
Al-Quaeda was based, trained and operated there, not in IRAQ!

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Somewhere around 2% of people are morons. I don't know what percentage of those are ignorant.

According to this thread it's 70%.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

How is this relevant Colin?

You may have book smarts, but from your posts you seem to be rather lacking in common sense.

Agan, if you just read the entire thread you'll understand. If you still don't get it ask a friend to explain it to you.

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Agan, if you just read the entire thread you'll understand. If you still don't get it ask a friend to explain it to you.

Always with the mud slinging.

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

They do. They just don't post it here.

That's why I said 'here.'

But that doesnt change the fact that there are as many canadians here that post regularly, and people from the UK, and elsewhere. It doesnt matter HOW MANY people congregate here from a certain place. What does that have to do with a person speaking out or questioning whats happening in their city?

I make posts about local LA shit all the time, sometimes LA news is the first news in the country to report things. Just because there is only 1 person from Brazil here doesnt mean he cant make a post about a local man was busted for explosives and taken to jail and executed without trial. One person is enough to speak loud enough on this board or any other to be heard.

I was pointing out to a canadian on this board one day about how the medical equipment in 50% of all diagnositc equipment (including ultrasound equip) in canada's hospitals was neglected and obsolete due to the old health care system and how they managed their equipment and funds. Basically the nurses were not trained to use this 'new' equipment so it was never used and became onbsolete, a HUGE waste of funds. I never saw any canadian complain about that.

http://www.freemarketfoundation.com/...oid=892&idv=17

Just a 'Dumb American' pointing out the bullshit curtains that ALL COUNTRIES pull over its people.

Id be willing to bet the American's vs Canadian headcount here would be similar. I could be wrong, but there are A bunch of canadians here hehehe and they post more than the americans! Name em: Quiet, Sleazy, Evil Chris, Lady Mischief, the list goes on, Canada is repped here big time. Are you saying there is NOTHING to complain about in canada? Shit man, i need to go check it out. Prolly too cold for my ass heh.

Anyway, point is i RARELY EVER see someone bitch about ANYTHING to do with their land.

But DAILY I SEE Canadians and others POINTING at America.

You must agree on that ;)

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
We have troops in Afghanistan and don't need to question this.

Just what I thought.

crockett · 09-30-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Now I heard someone say the other day that Al Queda was gone. I'm just wondering if this is what average Americans think. Opinions? I'm curious

well it's very sad, but it seems the adverage Bush voter belives anything he says.. worst part is most of them don't even give a crap if he lied or not about Iraq... they figure even if he did it dosn't matter because sadam needed to go.. (now I will agree he did need to go) But Bush still sucks

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

I sure would of and will if our government engages in war based on foul intelligence , without the UN , on a pre-emptive philosophy and for personnal reasons .

We have troops in Afghanistan and don't need to question this.
Al-Quaeda was based, trained and operated there, not in IRAQ!

So there's NOTHING else Canada has to worry about other than Iraq?

Hmmm, I really need to consider checking this place out.

Where is Canada again?

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Agan, if you just read the entire thread you'll understand. If you still don't get it ask a friend to explain it to you.

Anyway, it wasn't relevant.

I wasn't the only one to think so.

You were just trying to belittle someone who had a perfectly valid point, with an obscure side issue.

Well, you probably achieved your goal.

You can feel proud.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

Always with the mud slinging.

All in good humor. If I offend you let me know and I'll back off. ;-)

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

All in good humor. If I offend you let me know and I'll back off. ;-)

Razor blades at the ready.

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

That's why I said 'here.'

But that doesnt change the fact that there are as many canadians here that post regularly, and people from the UK, and elsewhere. It doesnt matter HOW MANY people congregate here from a certain place. What does that have to do with a person speaking out or questioning whats happening in their city?

I make posts about local LA shit all the time, sometimes LA news is the first news in the country to report things. Just because there is only 1 person from Brazil here doesnt mean he cant make a post about a local man was busted for explosives and taken to jail and executed without trial. One person is enough to speak loud enough on this board or any other to be heard.

I was pointing out to a canadian on this board one day about how the medical equipment in 50% of all diagnositc equipment (including ultrasound equip) in canada's hospitals was neglected and obsolete due to the old health care system and how they managed their equipment and funds. Basically the nurses were not trained to use this 'new' equipment so it was never used and became onbsolete, a HUGE waste of funds. I never saw any canadian complain about that.

http://www.freemarketfoundation.com/...oid=892&idv=17

Just a 'Dumb American' pointing out the bullshit curtains that ALL COUNTRIES pull over its people.

Id be willing to bet the American's vs Canadian headcount here would be similar. I could be wrong, but there are A bunch of canadians here hehehe and they post more than the americans! Name em: Quiet, Sleazy, Evil Chris, Lady Mischief, the list goes on, Canada is repped here big time. Are you saying there is NOTHING to complain about in canada? Shit man, i need to go check it out. Prolly too cold for my ass heh.

Anyway, point is i RARELY EVER see someone bitch about ANYTHING to do with their land.

But DAILY I SEE Canadians and others POINTING at America.

You must agree on that ;)

I must think it's because this board is mostly US centric, so non US threads often die a quick death.

But just as an example of the kind of questioning of government that is NOT happening in the US:

http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/

Tony Blair is fighting for his political life.

ADL Colin · 09-30-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

Anyway, it wasn't relevant.

I wasn't the only one to think so.

The relevance was that people in the world (not just Americans) have an ignorance of world events and their own governments.
That should be quite clear to you and if you don't understand why that is relevant you are probably in the 2%. If someone else didn't get it, they are just as slow as you.

Why do you ask me to explain in excruciating detail the logic of very simple to follow threads?

directfiesta · 09-30-2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

So there's NOTHING else Canada has to worry about other than Iraq?

Hmmm, I really need to consider checking this place out.

Where is Canada again?

Sure there is, but they have no influence on either " the porn business" or " world politics" or the "way of life" so no real interest to people here.

Now, if you say that the war in Iraq has influence only on the USA , then this post will be short.

Plenty of posts have been done by Canadians about Canada or Canada related topics:

- Visa shit ( no banks for porn here)
- mail-order marijuana
- gay marriages
- non-participation of troops
- Canadian soldiers killed in Afghan...

and so on.

The point is " look at the subject of THIS thread"....

Pornwolf · 09-30-2003, 01:36 PM

This guy is worth over a billion dollars. If that doesn't speak volumes about the average Americans stupidity I don't know what does.

http://www.orm.cc/

Fletch XXX · 09-30-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by uranidiot

http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/

Tony Blair is fighting for his political life.

You sure dont see many people referring to the smooth talking linguistic master Blair as a monkey or Bush Ass Puppet do you?

Ive not seen many Blair supporters in here comparing him to Hitler and etc.

Nah, they just point and laugh.

I think this thread is going to make me go to the next Anti-War rally and get pics so I can SHOW Lady Mischief what America thinks, not let her read a thread about a Washington Poll that claims we all think Saddam was behind it.

There are people gathered in points around this state right now speaking out AGAINST this shit, and AGAINST BUSH etc.

They arent sitting on a board arguing about canada Vs America news sources.

So i think this thread will make me get more involved and go to the next one. I love taking pics, so it will be fun. Maybe the cops will beat up some more AMERICANS for speaking out and gathering in public.

See its a double standard. Sit at home and bitch about Bush or go out and complain and get labeled a hippie.

It sure beats sitting here writing this post.

hahaha

uranidiot · 09-30-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Why do you ask me to explain in excruciating detail the logic of very simple to follow threads?

Shits and giggles?

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