Lookie what i found!!! (drama) - GoFuckYourself.com

Dildozer · 09-30-2003, 11:54 PM

I'm marking this thread as drama, but history will ultimately decide...

found that guy advertising on SomethingAwful

http://www.tgpump.com/

looks like another breed of those bandwidth leechers

GeXus · 09-30-2003, 11:56 PM

Seems the same as a category tgp

KaLi · 09-30-2003, 11:57 PM

DarkJedi · 09-30-2003, 11:58 PM

where's the drama ?

Dildozer · 10-01-2003, 12:03 AM

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 12:06 AM

Who owns this piece of shit.? .. time for a good old fashioned GFY lynching

KaLi · 10-01-2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer

=X

GrimShawn · 10-01-2003, 12:17 AM

KaLi · 10-01-2003, 12:19 AM

Hi Grimshawn. How are you today?

alan-l · 10-01-2003, 12:32 AM

fuckers

Dildozer · 10-01-2003, 12:46 AM

wtf their site's not down yet?

kmanrox · 10-01-2003, 12:48 AM

hmm maybe someone should send out 100million neonazi propaganda emails using this guys return address and linking to his site?

hahah

average uptime after that = less than 2 hours

Cali · 10-01-2003, 01:05 AM

Hmm, he's not doing anything illegal, maybe immoral, but not illegal.

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali
Hmm, he's not doing anything illegal, maybe immoral, but not illegal.

Yes he is, permission was not asked to allow surfers to bypass the banners and advertising.

Cali · 10-01-2003, 01:10 AM

There's no law telling surfers to WATCH banners and advertising. And there's no terms and conditions on the gallery pages saying that watching banners are required in order to watch the pictures.

If you don't like programs like that, protect yourself against it.

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali
There's no law telling surfers to WATCH banners and advertising. And there's no terms and conditions on the gallery pages saying that watching banners are required in order to watch the pictures.

If you don't like programs like that, protect yourself against it.

actualy, most of my galleries have copyright statements stating that no part of the gallery may be reproduced in any manner. This program is reproducing them to surfers hard drives though their program. So techinicaly there is now a problem. I don't have to protect if I don't want to, mind you I will be adding that shit to htaccess but I would rather see the company get shut down, End of story. And if you want to get really techinical abotu it. I saw sponsor content get downloaded to my folder with that program. 99 percent of sponsors clearly state that a link to their site(s) must be present. This program shows no links to any sites except their own page where surfers pay them for the program. Where's my cut... this is going to get ugly. I won't rest until they are gone. Simple.

Dildozer · 10-01-2003, 01:18 AM

nice finally a little drama

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
hmm maybe someone should send out 100million neonazi propaganda emails using this guys return address and linking to his site?

hahah

average uptime after that = less than 2 hours

all emails to his domain bounce back.

Pornwolf · 10-01-2003, 01:20 AM

It's not illegal but he's a candidate for our own brand of justice. This is a good reason to break his fingers or whatever the digital equivalent would be. There needs to be a porn mafia for this shit.

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
It's not illegal but he's a candidate for our own brand of justice. This is a good reason to break his fingers or whatever the digital equivalent would be. There needs to be a porn mafia for this shit.

There are many technicalities about this that do make it illegal. But I won't bother getting into it. However you are right, a porn mafia is needed. Something has to give. We have no protection in this industry.

Cali · 10-01-2003, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx

actualy, most of my galleries have copyright statements stating that no part of the gallery may be reproduced in any manner. This program is reproducing them to surfers hard drives though their program.

Well your own browser then breaks your copyright as it saves a copy of your work in its cache.

I know you and a lot of others are pissed about this guys program, but he's not the one having a problem, you are - Deal with it

integrated · 10-01-2003, 01:32 AM

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali

Well your own browser then breaks your copyright as it saves a copy of your work in its cache.

I know you and a lot of others are pissed about this guys program, but he's not the one having a problem, you are - Deal with it

yes but my ads are also in the cache. So I don't mind, Not like I could hold a browser financialy responsible. Besides, a browser doesn't interfeer with my business. TGPdump does.

I will deal wth it however I want. I know how to stop his program from grabbing my galleries. No biggie. I have the right to express that I have a problem with THE PROGRAM. To say I have a problem in the way you stated is treading on my already limited patience newb. Don't get me started on you right now becuase you won't win. Too many people like you do nothign abotu shit liek this and just sit back and wait for someone else to do somehtign about it. You sit there and setup your htaccess and think you did such a gerat thign while us more concerned webmasters work at shutting that fucker down. Don't even bother responding because it will fall on deaf ears.

Cali · 10-01-2003, 03:44 AM

Jesus, I must've stepped on a nerve of yours. LOL

(I like the namecalling btw, very mature ;) )

... and I don't think htaccess will work on this proggie.

Cohen · 10-01-2003, 04:08 AM

its boneprone

MicDoohan · 10-01-2003, 04:12 AM

Cali you stupid fuck - go suck sex educations cock

Cohen · 10-01-2003, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MicDoohan
Cali you stupid fuck - go suck sex educations cock

I love the cock

Cali · 10-01-2003, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MicDoohan
Cali you stupid fuck - go suck sex educations cock

Now THAT's a nice contribution to the thread. Real GFY spirit

Ross · 10-01-2003, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaLi

Ahhh hahaha

SomeCreep · 10-01-2003, 05:12 AM

fuck them, I'm going to hotlink their pics

chodadog · 10-01-2003, 05:14 AM

How is something like this legal? They're stealing copyrighted images, aren't they? Forget the fact that they're bypassing banners. They have no license to use these images or to present them in way, shape or form, or am i missing something?

Cali · 10-01-2003, 05:28 AM

The program is downloading pictures and presenting them in some form... Hey, just like a browser.

It would be illegal if the program reproduced these images on another site or in another form. But its not. It's representing the pictures as they are. Not altered or anything. Just like a browser.

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali
The program is downloading pictures and presenting them in some form... Hey, just like a browser.

It would be illegal if the program reproduced these images on another site or in another form. But its not. It's representing the pictures as they are. Not altered or anything. Just like a browser.

I thought I politely told you to shut the fuck up. You're out of you're league here. Where there is a will there is a way. There are many legalities about this that can be applied. Galleries with copyright notices wil take care of that.

and what the fuck is that shit in your "www" profile link? What good is linking to a surfer fpa trap on a webmaster board going to do for you? Are we suposed to be impressed with your design skills now or something?

Step back man... we are on a mission to make this guy's biz miserable. If you don't like it... stay out of this thread. Oh, and btw, we have shut down tamer sites than his for tamer reasons that interfeared with our bottom line.

and yes you stepped on my nerves, people that just sit back and "Watch" are not 100 % correct in the head.

gornyhuy · 10-01-2003, 05:53 AM

Digital Millenia Copyright Act prohibits this kind of thing, but there must be a dozen of them available all over the web, including on download.com and tucows and other free download sites.

Any decent programmer could write one for windows in about 30 minutes then polish it up in about an hour and have it up on all the download sites by the end of the day....

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 05:56 AM

oh and cali, to get more technical about it.... the program IS displaying them in another form. I dont see my banners, desing, or layout that I see in http://collegeagecuties.com/freegall...y/indexgal.htm if these pics are downloaded to the surfers hard drive.

I also see the program breaking my terms. Look at bottom of page and at source code.

This is asuming the program grabs pics from this gallery, that would put them in hot watter. If the program grabed those same pics from someone else's gallery that promotes socal coeds on a totaly different gallery, this has nothing to do with me. But if this gallery gets parsed by that software, bingo, they are in the wrong. I am interested in making sure nobody has to worry about this shit happening to them. Or am I totaly mistaken and full of shit this morning for wanting to get rid of a piece of shit like that?

Cali · 10-01-2003, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx

If you don't like it... stay out of this thread.

Hey I don't care actually. Just found it funny that a bunch of you guys will do all kinds of illegal things to put him out of his biz (as you call it) - What he did was making a browser to browse pictures, just like the IE or Mozilla.

Quote:

and yes you stepped on my nerves, people that just sit back and "Watch" are not 100 % correct in the head.

You don't know what kind of action I do to protect my shit, but you assume I just "sit back and watch".

Well, one thing I didn't do, was coming into GFY and whine like a cry baby.

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali

You don't know what kind of action I do to protect my shit, but you assume I just "sit back and watch".

Well, one thing I didn't do, was coming into GFY and whine like a cry baby.

Are you helping to fight off sites like this? All I see is you saying it's ok because it's suposedly legal. Just shut up now. I won't stop unless someone unplugs my pc.

JDog · 10-01-2003, 06:07 AM

Fucking bastards. Fuck em! Let's prevent it now

jDoG

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 06:09 AM

Does anyone know exactly which tgp's this thing parses?

iwantchixx · 10-01-2003, 06:11 AM

Thats hilarious

Cali · 10-01-2003, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx

All I see is you saying it's ok because it's suposedly legal.

Now where did you read that?!? I have kept my personal opinion about this kind of programs out of my replies on purpose, I merely claims he didn't do anything legally wrong. If I like what he does or not is not the issue here and my personal opinion about it is irrelevant to the thread.

GoGoBar · 10-01-2003, 07:40 AM

I remember years and years ago (before most people with loud mouths who post here were even in this biz) when everyone was so pissed off becuase the hun linked directly to content pages of websites instead of to the entry/main pages. People screamed up and down that he was hotlinking, that it was illegal, etc. Now they're just called tgp sites.

Sorry to say, but this program is NOT doing anything illegal. Do I agree with the program? Absolutely not. But that doesn't mean it's illegal. However, attacking and taking down his site IS illegal. Not the kind of extra heat our industry needs at these times.

Bring on the name calling, I'm sure it will help you get your point across.

chodadog · 10-01-2003, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali
What he did was making a browser to browse pictures, just like the IE or Mozilla.

Not exactly. Browsers go to webpages which are licensed to present those pictures. Software like this downloads the image and presents it. They have no license to do so, therefore it is illegal, surely?

Also. You can prevent these programs from surfing your galleries using htaccess. Something to do with the http agent. Someone started a thread on GFY recently with a huge list. I can't be arsed finding it.

Cali · 10-01-2003, 07:48 AM

GoGoBar, I guess you're better than me to point out the issue, but that was my thoughts exactly

Thank you.

Cali · 10-01-2003, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog

Also. You can prevent these programs from surfing your galleries using htaccess. Something to do with the http agent. Someone started a thread on GFY recently with a huge list. I can't be arsed finding it.

Negative on that one. It's easy to make a proggie that'll act EXACTLY like IE - And you don't wanna stop that one with htaccess right?

blazi · 10-01-2003, 07:55 AM

they say this program is better than marriage, or the real thing even?

Dildozer · 10-01-2003, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blazi
they say this program is better than marriage, or the real thing even?

anything's better than marriage

chodadog · 10-01-2003, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cali

Negative on that one. It's easy to make a proggie that'll act EXACTLY like IE - And you don't wanna stop that one with htaccess right?

I'm well aware of that, but a lot of them <i>don't</i> act like IE, and they are identifiable in the http header.

TGPump · 10-06-2003, 03:24 PM

The TGPump team wants to become a valued member of the adult online community. Our primary goal is to drive more customers to your websites and increase profits for everyone.

We know how hard webmasters work and we want you to get paid for your efforts. TGPump matches adult content to user preferences and we will be able to drive targeted traffic to your websites that will increase your revenue.

How will TGPump help you? TGPump distributes your teasers to a highly targeted audience. This improves your chances for a subscription conversion. It also improves your odds that users will click on the targeted advertisements on your website. We want you and your sponsors to be successful. That is why TGPump provides shortcuts to your websites so users can return to your pages that provided these images.

TGPump?s goal is to help bring these customers back to your website and make their porn experience more enjoyable.

Unlike some of our competitors, we know that it is not in our best interest to create conflict between software producers and webmasters. The TGPump team genuinely believes that we cannot succeed without you! We are confident that we can develop a partnership that will benefit everyone--including our mutual customers.

We want to partner with webmasters like yourselves to send quality traffic your way. We have read all of your comments and value your honest opinions. We hope you embrace this new concept and we are open to your ideas on ways we all can be successful in this industry for years to come.

Best Regards,
The TGPump Team

harvey · 10-06-2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TGPump
The TGPump team wants to become a valued member of the adult online community. Our primary goal is to drive more customers to your websites and increase profits for everyone.

We know how hard webmasters work and we want you to get paid for your efforts. TGPump matches adult content to user preferences and we will be able to drive targeted traffic to your websites that will increase your revenue.

How will TGPump help you? TGPump distributes your teasers to a highly targeted audience. This improves your chances for a subscription conversion. It also improves your odds that users will click on the targeted advertisements on your website. We want you and your sponsors to be successful. That is why TGPump provides shortcuts to your websites so users can return to your pages that provided these images.

TGPump?s goal is to help bring these customers back to your website and make their porn experience more enjoyable.

Unlike some of our competitors, we know that it is not in our best interest to create conflict between software producers and webmasters. The TGPump team genuinely believes that we cannot succeed without you! We are confident that we can develop a partnership that will benefit everyone--including our mutual customers.

We want to partner with webmasters like yourselves to send quality traffic your way. We have read all of your comments and value your honest opinions. We hope you embrace this new concept and we are open to your ideas on ways we all can be successful in this industry for years to come.

Best Regards,
The TGPump Team

aha. A prick gets all the porn he wants FOR FREE, and not only he'll decide not to do it anymore AND PAY FOR FREE PORN, but they'll be magically directed to our sites... wait! but our galleries are linking to 3rd party sponsor programs, so it's impossible that we'll get any revenue over the free BW and content we give to you, my dearest TGPump Team. So, my only plan to make money with you would be sueing you. If you ever EVER put one of my images or galleries to download from your crappy shit bypassing the manner I choose to present them due to reasons I know much better than you, I'll sue your ass or make you a new hole, what comes first. Have a good time

09-30-2003, 11:54 PM	#1
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	Lookie what i found!!! (drama) I'm marking this thread as drama, but history will ultimately decide... found that guy advertising on SomethingAwful http://www.tgpump.com/ looks like another breed of those bandwidth leechers __________________ Spam link here

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Cali Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 72	Hmm, he's not doing anything illegal, maybe immoral, but not illegal.

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Cali Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 72	There's no law telling surfers to WATCH banners and advertising. And there's no terms and conditions on the gallery pages saying that watching banners are required in order to watch the pictures. If you don't like programs like that, protect yourself against it.

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Cali Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 72	The program is downloading pictures and presenting them in some form... Hey, just like a browser. It would be illegal if the program reproduced these images on another site or in another form. But its not. It's representing the pictures as they are. Not altered or anything. Just like a browser.

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	oh and cali, to get more technical about it.... the program IS displaying them in another form. I dont see my banners, desing, or layout that I see in http://collegeagecuties.com/freegall...y/indexgal.htm if these pics are downloaded to the surfers hard drive. I also see the program breaking my terms. Look at bottom of page and at source code. This is asuming the program grabs pics from this gallery, that would put them in hot watter. If the program grabed those same pics from someone else's gallery that promotes socal coeds on a totaly different gallery, this has nothing to do with me. But if this gallery gets parsed by that software, bingo, they are in the wrong. I am interested in making sure nobody has to worry about this shit happening to them. Or am I totaly mistaken and full of shit this morning for wanting to get rid of a piece of shit like that?

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Does anyone know exactly which tgp's this thing parses?

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GoGoBar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 1,439	I remember years and years ago (before most people with loud mouths who post here were even in this biz) when everyone was so pissed off becuase the hun linked directly to content pages of websites instead of to the entry/main pages. People screamed up and down that he was hotlinking, that it was illegal, etc. Now they're just called tgp sites. Sorry to say, but this program is NOT doing anything illegal. Do I agree with the program? Absolutely not. But that doesn't mean it's illegal. However, attacking and taking down his site IS illegal. Not the kind of extra heat our industry needs at these times. Bring on the name calling, I'm sure it will help you get your point across.

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