Letter from Iraq - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

strato · 10-13-2003, 07:29 PM

No probelmo........last at the 3rd ID, was there when they were the 24th ID as well.....love the 82nd

sacX · 10-13-2003, 07:30 PM

29 from new zealand.. travelled throughout asia/europe.. spent 12 hours in the US once :-)..
will finish med school in 4 weeks.

strato · 10-13-2003, 07:33 PM

When you finish Med School you should then come to the US and make bank......I am flying EMS right now and one of our pilots is married to a Doc......they are bringing down close to a million a year!!!

sacX · 10-13-2003, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by strato
When you finish Med School you should then come to the US and make bank......I am flying EMS right now and one of our pilots is married to a Doc......they are bringing down close to a million a year!!!

make more in this biz than i could ever hope to make as a Doc in NZ (unless I spent another 6 years specialising)

strato · 10-13-2003, 07:36 PM

I am still working on the "making money in this biz" part, Love it though.......

sacX · 10-13-2003, 07:37 PM

yeah business is much more fun and creative than i ever imagined before i got into it..

strato · 10-13-2003, 07:38 PM

Gotta specialize in the US as well. I believe emergancy room trauma takes a 4 year residency while general practice only takes a year or so, brain surgery takes 475 years from what I can tell....they are all so damn old

theking · 10-13-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by strato
Gotta specialize in the US as well. I believe emergancy room trauma takes a 4 year residency while general practice only takes a year or so, brain surgery takes 475 years from what I can tell....they are all so damn old

One of my sister's ex University roomies (they are still friends) is serving a five year residency and I believe she will be a neuro surgeon. She did some modeling when she was in University and had a few bit parts on TV shows from time to time. A good looking "blond" neuro surgeon????

strato · 10-13-2003, 07:50 PM

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One of my sister's ex University roomies (they are still friends) is serving a five year residency and I believe she is will be a neuro surgeon. She did some modeling when she was in University and had a few bit parts on TV shows from time to time. A good looking "blond" neuro surgeon????

That would be a definate "keeper" and five years sounds about right, tough program though!!! Sorry to hear about your injuries, must suck bad......I know when I got out I was lost for damn near a year before I got my shit back together......so much changed while I was in, and there was no such thing as privacy like I had remembered

sacX · 10-13-2003, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by theking

One of my sister's ex University roomies (they are still friends) is serving a five year residency and I believe she will be a neuro surgeon. She did some modeling when she was in University and had a few bit parts on TV shows from time to time. A good looking "blond" neuro surgeon????

It's tough to get onto a lot of the training schemes for specialties, places are so limited (you don't wanna train too many competitors

).. The selections are also very political, personality based etc. What puts me off the most is just how you have to dedicate the extra 6 years of training to your work at the expense of nearly everything else. It's not a sacrifice I'm prepared to make at the moment.

strato · 10-13-2003, 07:55 PM

I know at University of Cincinnati they paid the residents 42,000 a year

But they had to be some of the sharpest doctors I have veer had the pleasure of working with. They actually had to fly on the helicopter for the last 2 years. And they knew how to party as well

theking · 10-13-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by sacX

It's tough to get onto a lot of the training schemes for specialties, places are so limited (you don't wanna train too many competitors ).. The selections are also very political, personality based etc. What puts me off the most is just how you have to dedicate the extra 6 years of training to your work at the expense of nearly everything else. It's not a sacrifice I'm prepared to make at the moment.

There is a little more about my sister's friend. When she got out of Univeristy she could not get into med school in the states (I am not clear on the reasons why). Her mother or father was a Polish citizen and she got into a med school in Poland and trained...I think...for a year. She was then accepted into med school in the states...but I think her year of training in Poland did not count.

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:07 PM

Throwing it back on topic a bit.....

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And you want your ships, filled with your goods, pointed at other countries. That my friend is also a fact. Without the rest of the world your economy is nothing.

Your damn skippy we do, but it is now and always has been a lopsided deal for the US. We have now and for at least the last 30 years have had a huge trade deficit......just another fact for you.....

theking · 10-13-2003, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by strato

That would be a definate "keeper" and five years sounds about right, tough program though!!! Sorry to hear about your injuries, must suck bad......I know when I got out I was lost for damn near a year before I got my shit back together......so much changed while I was in, and there was no such thing as privacy like I had remembered

Yeah...I was pretty lost too. I bummed around University for a few years...before I really got over being a "civilian". I still miss military life.

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:12 PM

Man I got out and blew 40k travelling around the States, dumbest thing I ever did and I wouldn't have traded it for anything in the world!!!! I was going to let my hair grow out and have a good time the rest of my life!

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:15 PM

Then the 40K ran out

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:18 PM

I got out in '97 with 16 years active and finished up in the reserves, I am happy.....just got my 20 year letter enough retirement points to retire this year. Took the Bum deal though, the 18 year retirement plan. Not too much but I get it now

theking · 10-13-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by strato
Man I got out and blew 40k travelling around the States, dumbest thing I ever did and I wouldn't have traded it for anything in the world!!!! I was going to let my hair grow out and have a good time the rest of my life!

Well...I didn't let my hair grow to long...but I did start supporting a mustache and goatee for awhile...but I am back to hi and tights now and no facial hair.

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:20 PM

I thought all you 82nd guys had a goatee.....or was that the 101st

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:21 PM

naw that is the Cav guys

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:22 PM

I too am clean as a whistle myself.......married with children and stuck in Florida

anti-bush · 10-13-2003, 08:26 PM

<b>Also, the countries may not like us, but they damn sure need us. Talking about the trade agreements, every country out there wants their ships pointed toward the US with their products on board. That my friends is a fact!!!</b>

Yeah sure, kinda like how we've got all the oil. I mean we don't need Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Oh wait, sugar?

theking · 10-13-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by strato
I thought all you 82nd guys had a goatee.....or was that the 101st

You blaspheme.

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:27 PM

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:28 PM

Third time's a charm for me......and she is a young 26 y/o. Keeps me on my toes

theking · 10-13-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by strato
I too am clean as a whistle myself.......married with children and stuck in Florida

I was married several times during my years in the military...but when I was away they played...so I booted them. Fortunately no children involved.

anti-bush · 10-13-2003, 08:30 PM

<b>Saddam was never a U.S. ally. If every thing that all of the haters and bashers said were the factual truth...it is immaterial...as the US will continue to do...what it has always done...and that is...it will do what it percieves to be in its best interest...and if it makes mistakes (which I beleive that it has made mistakes)...so be it...and if there are unforseen...and/or unfornunate consequences...so be it. That is the way that it is and that is the way that it will be for the forseeable future...and the world will be forced to live with it. The US does not wear and has never worn a white hat...it is a gray hat at best.</b>

Yes, Iraq WAS a US Ally.

And you just proved my point. US(like any other government) only wants what's in his best interest). Saddam right now wasn't, so they wanted him out. Iran wasn't in the 80s, so they was pro-Saddam.

I'm off to bed not. I'll be back tomorrow(probably)

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:34 PM

Yes, Iraq WAS a US Ally.

And you just proved my point. US(like any other government) only wants what's in his best interest). Saddam right now wasn't, so they wanted him out. Iran wasn't in the 80s, so they was pro-Saddam.

I'm off to bed not. I'll be back tomorrow(probably)

Yes

theking · 10-13-2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by anti-bush

Yes, Iraq WAS a US Ally.

And you just proved my point. US(like any other government) only wants what's in his best interest). Saddam right now wasn't, so they wanted him out. Iran wasn't in the 80s, so they was pro-Saddam.

I'm off to bed not. I'll be back tomorrow(probably)

Iraq was never a US ally and the US was not pro Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war. The US assisted both Iran and Iraq as the US did not want a winner...or a loser in that war.

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:43 PM

Same Same with the soccar wars in Central America......

strato · 10-13-2003, 08:45 PM

On a lighter note of course

Bigdaddyhgh · 10-13-2003, 09:07 PM

The USA is the subject of attack from "Islam" due to the belief among some muslims that anything that ditracts from Allah is the devil.
Our policies and culture are so offensive because we support

1 Jews (thier sworn enemies).
2 Have tried and succeded in bringing commerce to the middle east the byproduct of wich is western culture (teaching women and children to wriite drive and enjjy modern ameniteies).
It is true that our policy has many flaws the bush and ashhahahahaha policies are way too invasive and in general we are losing our civil liberties in a scary whirlwind of rhetoric.
There has always been a price for freedom nations have been built and they have falled. Nevr thoug throughout history has such a young nation lived and thrived like we have in the US even with our recent setbacks in civil liberties we are still have freedoms and the ability to have almost anything we can concieve. This board is full of proof of that!
If you live anywhere but the USA you only get half the picture as we in the USA have to dig deep to get the rest of the story.

The Arabs that dispise the USA have always been a hatefull sort thier culture is not one of joy and celebration. Humor is a low priority (ever hear of an middle eastern comedy club). The arab culture lends itself to taking charity and turning on thjier benefactors always has, There is an arab proverb that says just that (sorry i cannot remember it).
I know that personally I like european culture people and enjoy staying for as long as I can.

The opinion expressed by Webby turn me off I would like to ask you have you been hear? Where did you go was Clinton ok with you? Are you Muslim? and how did the US policy effect you and yours?
Also so Saddam and Gadhafi, Idi Iman, Chirac, Bin Laden are on the same level as Bush?

I dont get your rational unless you have been affected somehow that you have this bad taste in your mouth you dont seem to have any objectivity,,all in mho

(forgive the terrible grammer)

bhutocracy · 10-13-2003, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Bigdaddyhgh
Also so Saddam and Gadhafi, Idi Iman, Chirac, Bin Laden are on the same level as Bush?

thats a typing mistake or confusion right?

Webby · 10-13-2003, 09:37 PM

theKing:

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Saddam was never a U.S. ally. If every thing that all of the haters and bashers said were the factual truth...it is immaterial...as the US will continue to do...what it has always done...

First... Saddam WAS an ally of the US and both that other arrogant US idiot Rumsfeld and Saddam gave each other hugs, not on one occasion, but several. Rumsfeld knows Saddam very well.

Same as Bush is well accqainted with the bin Ladens and rushed to deny this after 9/11. Osama Bin Laden was an active participant in the bin Laden family business two months prior to 9/11 and the US and Bush crime family traded very profitably with them.

Second... Since you claim Saddam was not an ally.. what the fuck was the guy given a key to Detriot for?? I'm sure he must have been welcomed there at some time?? DUH??

And.. as you correctly said.. the US will continue to do as it has always done - namely mess in everyone else's business and bribe and depose democractically elected governments, get involved and participate in terrorism, torture and killings of many innocent people. Ya don't have to look far - you got plenty of the torturers living in your midst and protected by a corrupt government. Alternatively, have a look at Chile - try going there and letting your stupid mouth loose and you'll get a bullet in the head - they have GOOD REASON to have a hatred of the US.

I have NO SYMPATHY left for an arrogant nation and, if you looked outside, you will see I share the same "opinions" as those of the majority of nations. The US is a ROGUE STATE due for regime change.

Now.. I ain't got time to waste talking crap with idiots who clearly have no sense or either know fuck all.

For once quit your stupid diatribe about "haters" and "bashers" and look at your own back yard... In case you never noticed, its' as trashy as your peanbrain. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BE PROUD OR "PATRIOT" ABOUT UNLESS YOU ARE ALLIED TO SOME FOURTH REICH REGIME.

theking · 10-13-2003, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

First... Saddam WAS an ally of the US and both that other arrogant US idiot Rumsfeld and Saddam gave each other hugs, not on one occasion, but several. Rumsfeld knows Saddam very well.

I have NO SYMPATHY left for an arrogant nation and, if you looked outside, you will see I share the same "opinions" as those of the majority of nations. The US is a ROGUE STATE due for regime change.

A hug does not an ally make. You apparently do not have an understanding of how our system works...the US has a regime change every two years for the House...every four-eight years for the executive branch and every six years for the Senate.

theking · 10-13-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

First... Saddam WAS an ally of the US and both that other arrogant US idiot Rumsfeld and Saddam gave each other hugs, not on one occasion, but several. Rumsfeld knows Saddam very well.

Same as Bush is well accqainted with the bin Ladens and rushed to deny this after 9/11. Osama Bin Laden was an active participant in the bin Laden family business two months prior to 9/11 and the US and Bush crime family traded very profitably with them.

Second... Since you claim Saddam was not an ally.. what the fuck was the guy given a key to Detriot for?? I'm sure he must have been welcomed there at some time?? DUH??

And.. as you correctly said.. the US will continue to do as it has always done - namely mess in everyone else's business and bribe and depose democractically elected governments, get involved and participate in terrorism, torture and killings of many innocent people. Ya don't have to look far - you got plenty of the torturers living in your midst and protected by a corrupt government. Alternatively, have a look at Chile - try going there and letting your stupid mouth loose and you'll get a bullet in the head - they have GOOD REASON to have a hatred of the US.

I have NO SYMPATHY left for an arrogant nation and, if you looked outside, you will see I share the same "opinions" as those of the majority of nations. The US is a ROGUE STATE due for regime change.

Now.. I ain't got time to waste talking crap with idiots who clearly have no sense or either know fuck all.

For once quit your stupid diatribe about "haters" and "bashers" and look at your own back yard... In case you never noticed, its' as trashy as your peanbrain. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BE PROUD OR "PATRIOT" ABOUT UNLESS YOU ARE ALLIED TO SOME FOURTH REICH REGIME.

Your obession with...and your diatribes about the USA...which are filled with hatred...half truths...BS and ignorance of facts...are so far over the edge...that you are laughable.

Webby · 10-13-2003, 10:53 PM

theKing:

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A hug does not an ally make. You apparently do not have an understanding of how our system works...the US has a regime change every two years for the House...every four-eight years for the executive branch and every six years for the Senate.

More crap and I don't give a fuck how "our system works" - just too perverse! It is claimed to be a "democracy" based on "values" and "freedoms" - hell.. that's a joke! SAD!!

Meanwhile.. when are ya gonna quit messing in everyone else's business and mind your fucking own?? I am sure some in the US would appreciate it and the rest of the world would.

Maybe it is more than the Admin that is the problem if you claim a regime change? When they quit lying and start cleaning up within this great country, instead of deviant, greedy, corrupt and terrorist behaviour with other nations, I might start showing some respect - Till then - get fucked.

I got NADA sympathy for the US - it has been coming for a LONG time - tis only a pity more folks will die and we'll all watch more paranoia and "why do they hate us?" cliches - shows how DUMB folks are. Military power and bombs?? Hell.. another indication of DUMB - bombs and military ain't gonna be your "defense"!

Take your stupid US trash ideology and doctrine and stuff it up your ass... I can't be bothered with dumb anal retetive US assholes who ain't got a clue.

Webby · 10-13-2003, 10:55 PM

theKing:

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Your obession with...and your diatribes about the USA...which are filled with hatred...half truths...BS and ignorance of facts...are so far over the edge...that you are laughable.

Silly man!

theking · 10-13-2003, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

More crap and I don't give a fuck how "our system works" - just too perverse! It is claimed to be a "democracy" based on "values" and "freedoms" - hell.. that's a joke! SAD!!

Meanwhile.. when are ya gonna quit messing in everyone else's business and mind your fucking own?? I am sure some in the US would appreciate it and the rest of the world would.

Maybe it is more than the Admin that is the problem if you claim a regime change? When they quit lying and start cleaning up within this great country, instead of deviant, greedy, corrupt and terrorist behaviour with other nations, I might start showing some respect - Till then - get fucked.

I got NADA sympathy for the US - it has been coming for a LONG time - tis only a pity more folks will die and we'll all watch more paranoia and "why do they hate us?" cliches - shows how DUMB folks are. Military power and bombs?? Hell.. another indication of DUMB - bombs and military ain't gonna be your "defense"!

Take your stupid US trash ideology and doctrine and stuff it up your ass... I can't be bothered with dumb anal retetive US assholes who ain't got a clue.

Webby · 10-13-2003, 10:57 PM

theKing:

You down to AVOIDING any actual facts that your government supports rogue regimes, protects torturers, messes in other democratic countries??/

Yea thought so!! THE STATE OF DENIAL

Your are a fucking joke!!

theking · 10-13-2003, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

You down to AVOIDING any actual facts that your government supports rogue regimes, protects torturers, messes in other democratic countries??/

Yea thought so!! THE STATE OF DENIAL

Your are a fucking joke!!

Webby · 10-13-2003, 11:02 PM

Funny!! Ain't worth pissing on!!

theking · 10-13-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Funny!! Ain't worth pissing on!!

Whatever you may think of America its policies...domestic...and foreign...have made it the richest most powerful country in the history of the world...in just over two hundred years. I say to America keep on doing what you have been doing...and the hell with the neurotic...Webbies...of the world.

I am now going to bed...I have an appointment with my attorney tomorrow morning to have some papers drawn up.

Yes you are amusing...

maxjohan · 10-13-2003, 11:19 PM

Saw a docementry today on swedish television. Some famous Iraq/swedish writer went down for the first time in 28 years to his home country..this was not long ago. Problem with bandits and things like that. When they interviewed an iraqish english teacher she said that womens nightmare was kiddnaped or raped. And all people hasn't this ohh yes Americans. One little girl got shot when she wanted to shake hand with an american soldier.

btw, I saw some young solidiers on the road with machine guns..you could hear them talking when they was about to leave..they really thought they was the shit.

Reminds me of that lion on the zoo.

Webby · 10-13-2003, 11:24 PM

Sleep well in pampered land and I'll remind you from time to time of how the "richest most powerful country in the history of the world" got it's riches.

Was that Greed Street? Na... there is another side ya probably will be in a state of denial over as well

Meanwhile.. try and make up your mind what the history of your own country is without lying

maxjohan · 10-13-2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Whatever you may think of America its policies...domestic...and foreign...have made it the richest most powerful country in the history of the world...in just over two hundred years. I say to America keep on doing what you have been doing...and the hell with the neurotic...Webbies...of the world.

I am now going to bed...I have an appointment with my attorney tomorrow morning to have some papers drawn up.

Yes you are amusing...

Richest and poorest people and some of the stupiest people I've learned in high school

Is it true that like 25% doesn't know where US is on a map?

Do you know where Sweden is on a map? or more like IRAQ?

Webby · 10-13-2003, 11:33 PM

maxjohan:

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One little girl got shot when she wanted shake hand with an american soldier.

Sad shit... other side is, generally, these guys are kids - they ain't got a clue about much outside their state.

There are almost as much "friendly fire" deaths as there as from the actual war - gotta speak for itself..

Sure would like to see the "war planners" (many of whom, including the "illustrous asshole", have never served a day in the forces themselves), but stuffed up front to be shot at.

Webby · 10-13-2003, 11:36 PM

maxjohan:

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Is it true that like 25% doesn't know where US is on a map?

Do you know where Sweden is on a map? or more like IRAQ?

Hey now!! Ya not supposed to ask these hard questions!

... the replies can be pretty embarassing and ya kinda lose the little faith you had left

sacX · 10-13-2003, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Iraq was never a US ally and the US was not pro Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war. The US assisted both Iran and Iraq as the US did not want a winner...or a loser in that war.

the US was officially neutral.. but they didn't assist Iran and Iraq equally.. they clearly thought Iraq the lesser of two evils. When Bush Snr came into office they embarked on a policy of engaging Iraq diplomtically to try and get closer relations (see all those photos of Saddam and Rummsfeld)..

maxjohan · 10-14-2003, 12:01 AM

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...7&section=news

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maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	Saw a docementry today on swedish television. Some famous Iraq/swedish writer went down for the first time in 28 years to his home country..this was not long ago. Problem with bandits and things like that. When they interviewed an iraqish english teacher she said that womens nightmare was kiddnaped or raped. And all people hasn't this ohh yes Americans. One little girl got shot when she wanted to shake hand with an american soldier. btw, I saw some young solidiers on the road with machine guns..you could hear them talking when they was about to leave..they really thought they was the shit. Reminds me of that lion on the zoo. __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls... Last edited by maxjohan; 10-13-2003 at 11:33 PM..

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maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...7&section=news __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

10-13-2003, 07:29 PM	#101
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	No probelmo........last at the 3rd ID, was there when they were the 24th ID as well.....love the 82nd

10-13-2003, 07:30 PM	#102
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	29 from new zealand.. travelled throughout asia/europe.. spent 12 hours in the US once :-).. will finish med school in 4 weeks.

10-13-2003, 07:33 PM	#103
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	When you finish Med School you should then come to the US and make bank......I am flying EMS right now and one of our pilots is married to a Doc......they are bringing down close to a million a year!!!

10-13-2003, 07:36 PM	#105
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	I am still working on the "making money in this biz" part, Love it though.......

10-13-2003, 07:37 PM	#106
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	yeah business is much more fun and creative than i ever imagined before i got into it..

10-13-2003, 07:38 PM	#107
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	Gotta specialize in the US as well. I believe emergancy room trauma takes a 4 year residency while general practice only takes a year or so, brain surgery takes 475 years from what I can tell....they are all so damn old

10-13-2003, 07:55 PM	#111
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	I know at University of Cincinnati they paid the residents 42,000 a year But they had to be some of the sharpest doctors I have veer had the pleasure of working with. They actually had to fly on the helicopter for the last 2 years. And they knew how to party as well

10-13-2003, 08:12 PM	#115
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	Man I got out and blew 40k travelling around the States, dumbest thing I ever did and I wouldn't have traded it for anything in the world!!!! I was going to let my hair grow out and have a good time the rest of my life!

10-13-2003, 08:15 PM	#116
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	Then the 40K ran out

10-13-2003, 08:18 PM	#117
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	I got out in '97 with 16 years active and finished up in the reserves, I am happy.....just got my 20 year letter enough retirement points to retire this year. Took the Bum deal though, the 18 year retirement plan. Not too much but I get it now

10-13-2003, 08:20 PM	#119
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	I thought all you 82nd guys had a goatee.....or was that the 101st

10-13-2003, 08:21 PM	#120
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	naw that is the Cav guys

10-13-2003, 08:22 PM	#121
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	I too am clean as a whistle myself.......married with children and stuck in Florida

10-13-2003, 08:26 PM	#122
anti-bush Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 40	<b>Also, the countries may not like us, but they damn sure need us. Talking about the trade agreements, every country out there wants their ships pointed toward the US with their products on board. That my friends is a fact!!!</b> Yeah sure, kinda like how we've got all the oil. I mean we don't need Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Oh wait, sugar?

10-13-2003, 08:27 PM	#124
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123

10-13-2003, 08:28 PM	#125
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	Third time's a charm for me......and she is a young 26 y/o. Keeps me on my toes

10-13-2003, 08:30 PM	#127
anti-bush Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 40	<b>Saddam was never a U.S. ally. If every thing that all of the haters and bashers said were the factual truth...it is immaterial...as the US will continue to do...what it has always done...and that is...it will do what it percieves to be in its best interest...and if it makes mistakes (which I beleive that it has made mistakes)...so be it...and if there are unforseen...and/or unfornunate consequences...so be it. That is the way that it is and that is the way that it will be for the forseeable future...and the world will be forced to live with it. The US does not wear and has never worn a white hat...it is a gray hat at best.</b> Yes, Iraq WAS a US Ally. And you just proved my point. US(like any other government) only wants what's in his best interest). Saddam right now wasn't, so they wanted him out. Iran wasn't in the 80s, so they was pro-Saddam. I'm off to bed not. I'll be back tomorrow(probably)

10-13-2003, 08:34 PM	#128
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	Yes, Iraq WAS a US Ally. And you just proved my point. US(like any other government) only wants what's in his best interest). Saddam right now wasn't, so they wanted him out. Iran wasn't in the 80s, so they was pro-Saddam. I'm off to bed not. I'll be back tomorrow(probably) Yes

10-13-2003, 08:43 PM	#130
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	Same Same with the soccar wars in Central America......

10-13-2003, 08:45 PM	#131
strato Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: florida Posts: 123	On a lighter note of course

10-13-2003, 09:07 PM	#132
Bigdaddyhgh Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tampa Fla Posts: 233	The USA is the subject of attack from "Islam" due to the belief among some muslims that anything that ditracts from Allah is the devil. Our policies and culture are so offensive because we support 1 Jews (thier sworn enemies). 2 Have tried and succeded in bringing commerce to the middle east the byproduct of wich is western culture (teaching women and children to wriite drive and enjjy modern ameniteies). It is true that our policy has many flaws the bush and ashhahahahaha policies are way too invasive and in general we are losing our civil liberties in a scary whirlwind of rhetoric. There has always been a price for freedom nations have been built and they have falled. Nevr thoug throughout history has such a young nation lived and thrived like we have in the US even with our recent setbacks in civil liberties we are still have freedoms and the ability to have almost anything we can concieve. This board is full of proof of that! If you live anywhere but the USA you only get half the picture as we in the USA have to dig deep to get the rest of the story. The Arabs that dispise the USA have always been a hatefull sort thier culture is not one of joy and celebration. Humor is a low priority (ever hear of an middle eastern comedy club). The arab culture lends itself to taking charity and turning on thjier benefactors always has, There is an arab proverb that says just that (sorry i cannot remember it). I know that personally I like european culture people and enjoy staying for as long as I can. The opinion expressed by Webby turn me off I would like to ask you have you been hear? Where did you go was Clinton ok with you? Are you Muslim? and how did the US policy effect you and yours? Also so Saddam and Gadhafi, Idi Iman, Chirac, Bin Laden are on the same level as Bush? I dont get your rational unless you have been affected somehow that you have this bad taste in your mouth you dont seem to have any objectivity,,all in mho (forgive the terrible grammer)

10-13-2003, 10:57 PM	#140
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	theKing: You down to AVOIDING any actual facts that your government supports rogue regimes, protects torturers, messes in other democratic countries??/ Yea thought so!! THE STATE OF DENIAL Your are a fucking joke!!

10-13-2003, 11:02 PM	#142
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Funny!! Ain't worth pissing on!!

10-13-2003, 11:24 PM	#145
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Sleep well in pampered land and I'll remind you from time to time of how the "richest most powerful country in the history of the world" got it's riches. Was that Greed Street? Na... there is another side ya probably will be in a state of denial over as well Meanwhile.. try and make up your mind what the history of your own country is without lying