Acacia - It's NOT AVN - it's ....... - GoFuckYourself.com

SiMpLe · 10-24-2003, 04:11 PM

As long as I have been in the gig that I am in now - I have only used the primary company name ONCE and only ONCE - everything else purchased - reg'd etc... for everything has been the DBA's.

- This is the first letter I got addressed to me personally with the primary company name attached that NO ONE knows about.

I started fishing around logging into various sites I have bought content from, sponsors and so on.... and to my surprise I came across ONE AND ONLY ONE that had the exact same information as the letter sent to me personally and not the company DBA's I work for.

I am 99% sure the culprit who sold the lists starts with an M and ends with an X - My friends we have a nark and instead of cowering behind press releases and posts full of lies - these chumps need to fess up.

The Truth Hurts · 10-24-2003, 04:13 PM

it's amazing how many people only used their info once.

LOL

GFED · 10-24-2003, 04:14 PM

MATRIX CONTENT again...

MORE PROOF FOR THE PUDDING...

WiredGuy · 10-24-2003, 04:22 PM

Thanks for posting that SiMpLe, you posting it is definitely a reliable source. Seems more and more fingers are going up every day to the same company.

WG

tony286 · 10-24-2003, 04:23 PM

Lets ask Agent Smith "if its Matrix" lol

modF · 10-24-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Lets ask Agent Smith "if its Matrix" lol

SiMpLe · 10-24-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Thanks for posting that SiMpLe, you posting it is definitely a reliable source. Seems more and more fingers are going up every day to the same company.

WG

Dude you know me and I don't post shit, like ever - look at my count - but this is just FLAT OUT wrong and I had to.

Talk about some bad karma on their part

JSA Matt · 10-24-2003, 04:29 PM

I can't believe they still deny it

Markit · 10-24-2003, 04:37 PM

Matrix Reloaded

Adultnet · 10-24-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GFED
MATRIX CONTENT again...

MORE PROOF FOR THE PUDDING...

lets open untimetrixcontent site or some thing in the style

Alky · 10-24-2003, 04:55 PM

yea, i received a letter today... i have never done business with any of the companies listed, never even signed up for their programs.... except matrix, and i never bought content from them anyhow.

10-24-2003, 05:01 PM

is there anyone who received the latest letter from them and does not have an account with MC?

KRL · 10-24-2003, 05:01 PM

Like I said in my other post, it could also be by someone getting a hold of their mailing list or the list with whoever they process their transactions with, or an employee could have sold it on the side.

You never know.

I can't believe he would sell out the people he depends on for his business, because only a fool would due that knowing how fast adult webmasters are to crucify anyone who betrays them.

10-24-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by SiMpLe

Dude you know me and I don't post shit, like ever - look at my count - but this is just FLAT OUT wrong and I had to.

hey you're beating me in the post count bro

scorpy · 10-24-2003, 05:04 PM

I used some of the companies listed... but i moved in a new house and ONLY matrix had my new address because they had to send me a check (from partnership program). So my letter from Acacia can only come from Matrix...

Matrix! and keep your fucking check!

GFED · 10-24-2003, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by esnem
is there anyone who received the latest letter from them and does not have an account with MC?

Not very good at logic are you?

JDog · 10-24-2003, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Like I said in my other post, it could also be by someone getting a hold of their mailing list or the list with whoever they process their transactions with, or an employee could have sold it on the side.

You never know.

I can't believe he would sell out the people he depends on for his business, because only a fool would due that knowing how fast adult webmasters are to crucify anyone who betrays them.

Yea, but if it is the CC processor, they have no right to give that information. Any one of these places could get sued - the CC companies are not allowed to give any information like that!

jDoG

SureFire · 10-24-2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by esnem
is there anyone who received the latest letter from them and does not have an account with MC?

me

LadyMischief · 10-24-2003, 05:20 PM

It's got to be several people divulging the information.. it only makes sense.

stocktrader23 · 10-24-2003, 05:30 PM

Ok, say Matrix didn't sell out but the list was stolen. Could you sue for damages because their security wasn't good enough to keep your info private?

SiMpLe · 10-24-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Like I said in my other post, it could also be by someone getting a hold of their mailing list or the list with whoever they process their transactions with, or an employee could have sold it on the side.

You never know.

I can't believe he would sell out the people he depends on for his business, because only a fool would due that knowing how fast adult webmasters are to crucify anyone who betrays them.

This is a very good point and I just about fell outa my chair when I logged in and saw the match to the primary company and not the DBA's. The site acct is under my name too cuz its my company credit card I used. (even the co card has one of the dba's on it and not the primary so its not that) No sponsor - no AVN Internext reg - no one has this company name... it was a mistake on my part to use that one to begin with - I just started here and for the letter to come to ME personally and not the owner of the company or the name that the domains are reg'd under just shows even more that this is the case.

Disgruntled employee is a huge maybe - but for a pissed off employee to go as far as to contact Acacia, broker a list on the QT to them and make bank from it is kind of off the wall. Isn't that a little shady on Acacia's part as well and they could get sued for something like that - would they risk this in the midst of their world video patent domination and shareholders trust if that was the truth of a sold under the table list?

I will give the named source the benefit of the doubt because that is only fair (you can ask anyone that I'm one of the straight up guys in the industry) but what I see in front of my eye's... speaks for itself and my jaw is still on the floor. I HOPE this is not the case but from what I have read in the other posts and what I now see personally, I'm friggn pissed to no end - I still can not believe what I found.

Zayne E. · 10-24-2003, 05:42 PM

I have been feeling SO left out of all the Acacia drama. In the course of my design career, I have had to lease content from the above referenced content provider on several occassions. I just logged in to see what they had for my contact information. It wasn't up-to-date...so I updated it.

Let's see if I can finally get my Acacia sales pitch in the mail in the next week or so. This could be an interesting experiment!

roscoe98 · 10-24-2003, 05:46 PM

Hell we got letters and don't even do any video..explain that one!

Bladewire · 10-24-2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SiMpLe
As long as I have been in the gig that I am in now - I have only used the primary company name ONCE and only ONCE - everything else purchased - reg'd etc... for everything has been the DBA's.

- This is the first letter I got addressed to me personally with the primary company name attached that NO ONE knows about.

I started fishing around logging into various sites I have bought content from, sponsors and so on.... and to my surprise I came across ONE AND ONLY ONE that had the exact same information as the letter sent to me personally and not the company DBA's I work for.

I am 99% sure the culprit who sold the lists starts with an M and ends with an X - My friends we have a nark and instead of cowering behind press releases and posts full of lies - these chumps need to fess up.

SiMple we might have a problem on our hands. Imagine someone very big in the industry, wanting to be like Acacia, consulting Acacia on how to attack us. Now imagine this big fish has customers lists. Things are starting to add up here. I'm afraid to say that it's entirely possible that a big guy consulting for Acacia gave them an extensive list to work from.

SiMpLe · 10-24-2003, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit

SiMple we might have a problem on our hands. Imagine someone very big in the industry, wanting to be like Acacia, consulting Acacia on how to attack us. Now imagine this big fish has customers lists. Things are starting to add up here. I'm afraid to say that it's entirely possible that a big guy consulting for Acacia gave them an extensive list to work from.

WOW that's disturbing - that is a whole new nasty ballgame then.

SureFire · 10-24-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by esnem
is there anyone who received the latest letter from them and does not have an account with MC?
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me

Whoops, misread the question. I do have an account with matrix along with accounts on the list and have not received a letter.

Bladewire · 10-24-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by SiMpLe

WOW that's disturbing - that is a whole new nasty ballgame then.

Yeah it seems the more you dig... the less you like what you see.
I don't think anyone's gonna come on here and admit that they share lists of our info. But I can tell you that it's entirely possible that your Acacia letter was sent using information from shared/purchased lists.

MatrixContent has an interesting thread going on:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=189749

jonstern · 10-24-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by roscoe98
Hell we got letters and don't even do any video..explain that one!

This might help explain it:
http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=43869

jon

siccmade · 10-24-2003, 07:52 PM

I too got a package today

To an address only Matrix has

10-24-2003, 04:11 PM	#1
SiMpLe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Porn Central - California Posts: 3,221	Acacia - It's NOT AVN - it's ....... As long as I have been in the gig that I am in now - I have only used the primary company name ONCE and only ONCE - everything else purchased - reg'd etc... for everything has been the DBA's. - This is the first letter I got addressed to me personally with the primary company name attached that NO ONE knows about. I started fishing around logging into various sites I have bought content from, sponsors and so on.... and to my surprise I came across ONE AND ONLY ONE that had the exact same information as the letter sent to me personally and not the company DBA's I work for. I am 99% sure the culprit who sold the lists starts with an M and ends with an X - My friends we have a nark and instead of cowering behind press releases and posts full of lies - these chumps need to fess up. __________________ Sean Holland Vice President OrbitalPay / Global Electronic Technology (GET) SKYPE: iam.sean ::: sholland at orbitalpay.com 888-775-1500 Last edited by SiMpLe; 10-24-2003 at 04:13 PM..

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Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	yea, i received a letter today... i have never done business with any of the companies listed, never even signed up for their programs.... except matrix, and i never bought content from them anyhow.

10-24-2003, 05:01 PM	#12
esnem Guest Posts: n/a	is there anyone who received the latest letter from them and does not have an account with MC?

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scorpy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 457	I used some of the companies listed... but i moved in a new house and ONLY matrix had my new address because they had to send me a check (from partnership program). So my letter from Acacia can only come from Matrix... Matrix! and keep your fucking check!

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Zayne E. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,383	I have been feeling SO left out of all the Acacia drama. In the course of my design career, I have had to lease content from the above referenced content provider on several occassions. I just logged in to see what they had for my contact information. It wasn't up-to-date...so I updated it. Let's see if I can finally get my Acacia sales pitch in the mail in the next week or so. This could be an interesting experiment!

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