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Old 10-27-2003, 03:54 AM   #1
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13 year old girl video clip

Sorry, no CP here.

Anyway...

I'm secretly funneling all my profits from adult sites in to the music biz. (it's a write off) (I'm a producer/engineer/musician)

My company just finished up a quick 3 song demo to see how this 13 year old girl who fronts a band would work out.

Our development company works with young artists, teaming them up with major producers. We represent a handful of established 4 star music producers.

Since GFY is such a cross section of society, LOL, I thought I'd share this up and coming star with you and get your humble, heh, opinions.

I edited this demo video on a souped up PC running video toaster. I captured home movie footage of her playing in clubs in Chicago, and did my best to make her look rockin.

Kristy Rose and her band have opened up for such bands as "Vince Neil" and "Smashmouth". She also has a full endorsement from Dean Guitars.

I haven't built her a website yet. Only thing up there is the clips. We just started this project.

You'll find hi-speed and low-speed versions of the Kristy demo in Quicktime, Windows Media Player, and Real on the site.

Honest opinions are welcome. Keep in mind this is for a young demographic. And we're trying to bring old school rock back. Hope you like Joan Jett.

http://www.kristyrose.com

Here is the Real Player hi-speed
http://www.kristyrose.com/kristy256-realplayer.rm

And here is the Windows Media Player hi-speed
http://www.kristyrose.com/kristy256k-windows.wmv

Thanks for your input

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Old 10-27-2003, 03:57 AM   #2
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That is one fucking wild job on that pic. I like it, Goina check out the links now. boy oh boy, when I was 13 and playing guitar I wish I found a chick that looked that cool with a guitar.
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Old 10-27-2003, 04:02 AM   #3
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can she play stairway to heaven?

that's a cool song
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Old 10-27-2003, 04:02 AM   #4
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mass produce/distribute me when you get a chance

my life story would make an excellent behind the music it markets itself
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Just checked out the vid. In all honnesty, she is just another one hit wonder. Get the girl some guitar lessons.. LOTS of lessons. Dump that band of hers and get her playing something that will last beyond the first 6 months of her stardome. She has that guitar chick (lita ford) look happening. Take advantage of that and put her with a good band after she learns how to play. She may not hit the charts with a bang then, but she will have a loyal following. Sorry, just my honnest opinion as a musician and someone who is sick of MTV one hit wonders.
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can she play smoke on the water?
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I wasn't aware that being a good guitarist had anything to do with being successful.

We only signed her, not the band.
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ive been playing guitar for 7 years now

i can play smoke on the water and stairway

i can also tie balloon animals

let me cater your party
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ouch, nah man shes good, spose its all up to marketing
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The crowd looked *wild*
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This is no place to be posting 13 year olds with or without there clothes on. Plus is if you are in porn and dealing with 13 year old girls in another industry like the pop industry be VERY careful.

Try a spy cam in the office, studio, or anywhere else the girl is likely to go.
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Old 10-27-2003, 04:21 AM   #12
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I wasn't aware that being a good guitarist had anything to do with being successful.

We only signed her, not the band.
Yeah, you are right. I guess this is why the music industry is overcrowded with talentless musicians making a buck because of their image.
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Old 10-27-2003, 04:31 AM   #13
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This is no place to be posting 13 year olds with or without there clothes on. Plus is if you are in porn and dealing with 13 year old girls in another industry like the pop industry be VERY careful.

Why? We all mostly talk about nonsense on here. Oh I see, you get nervous talking about 13 year olds? LOL

And let me make this clear I'm not "in porn" I'm an Admin trying to make a buck like most of the people on GFY. Never been behind the camera much less in front of it.

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Try a spy cam in the office, studio, or anywhere else the girl is likely to go.
OK, Who's the pedophile here?

Geez.
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avril number 2 ? i think so

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Sorry, no CP here.

Anyway...

I'm secretly funneling all my profits from adult sites in to the music biz. (it's a write off) (I'm a producer/engineer/musician)

My company just finished up a quick 3 song demo to see how this 13 year old girl who fronts a band would work out.

Our development company works with young artists, teaming them up with major producers. We represent a handful of established 4 star music producers.

Since GFY is such a cross section of society, LOL, I thought I'd share this up and coming star with you and get your humble, heh, opinions.

I edited this demo video on a souped up PC running video toaster. I captured home movie footage of her playing in clubs in Chicago, and did my best to make her look rockin.

Kristy Rose and her band have opened up for such bands as "Vince Neil" and "Smashmouth". She also has a full endorsement from Dean Guitars.

I haven't built her a website yet. Only thing up there is the clips. We just started this project.

You'll find hi-speed and low-speed versions of the Kristy demo in Quicktime, Windows Media Player, and Real on the site.

Honest opinions are welcome. Keep in mind this is for a young demographic. And we're trying to bring old school rock back. Hope you like Joan Jett.

http://www.kristyrose.com

Here is the Real Player hi-speed
http://www.kristyrose.com/kristy256-realplayer.rm

And here is the Windows Media Player hi-speed
http://www.kristyrose.com/kristy256k-windows.wmv

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Yeah, you are right. I guess this is why the music industry is overcrowded with talentless musicians making a buck because of their image.
Due I detect some bitterness? Success in the music biz is not simply about musical ability or image. Just like a band is a team, the team is now song writers, producers, engineers, video directors, etc. etc.

When the team makes a hit, we all win.

The market dictates what it wants to buy. This despite the wants of A&R/Producers like myself. We try to predict trends and hope that it's something we like. I like good old school rock. So that's the direction I steered this project in.

I agree that MTV is littered with image driven artists. But you gotta love it when a 4/4 band with 3 chords breaks and stays. i.e. The Ramones.

What exactly is an image? What you want to see? What is your image of the bands you listen to?
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What exactly is an image? What you want to see? What is your image of the bands you listen to?
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What exactly is an image? What you want to see? What is your image of the bands you listen to?
what do i want to see? i want to see people just like me and you not some rapper with million dollar homes and 18 cars rapping about how they are so succesful and about bitches and hoes and blah blah blah.
i listen to music for its musical value, the meanings behind the songs, not the image of the bands.
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Hi I think she is good, 13 years old and can do shit like she is doing is awesome.
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fuck yea, joan jett - i love playing with fire, fucking badass song. Her "Fetish" album is awsome also, shes down with the bsdm baby!
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I've done very well with music industry projects and have connects.

However she needs a lot of work to be honest. That song won't cut it for her. Her age is a bit premature yet. I don't think it will be easy promoting a 13 yr old girl for that hardcore genre either.

She's got a good look. She needs guitar lessons. She needs some more voice lessons also. She needs to learn how to vibe her body to the music.

Got potential, the graphics look great, but it won't be easy to pull off in my opinion.
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avril number 2 ? i think so

that's what i was thinking, reminds me of her totally. avril wannabe
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I can't say its bad, but then again I can't say its anything special..

And I agree with the guy that said 1 hit wonder.. :\

Although a bit of work and you've got a winner, just make her play with a bunch of midgets ROFL
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She needs a few years of voice lessons, some origional material, a good band and to at least get out in the world a little first. I don't trust anyone trying to play punk who hasn't been in a drunken brawl or seen someone stabbed in the face yet
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There is a lot of talent in this girl. I hope she will stay away from alcohol and drugs.
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Nothing really sounds very catchy.

Maybe get some footage of a crowd that looks at least a little interested.

It's cool that she's doing this at 13, but other than that there's really not alot that's interesting musically there.

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You asked for opinions so don't get so defensive...but anyway here's mine.

#1 she's cute...that'll help sell her albums to a bunch of adolescent boys...you'll already have the girls who will fantasize about being her.

#2 she's young...that alone will cause some commotion and people will want to take a look which will create PR which we all know will help buttloads.

#3 so fucking what she's another Avril knock off...maybe that's what inspired her I don't know don't know her life story the important thing is will she make money?...MORE THAN DAMN LIKELY.

Looks like she's already got a good start...like I said the important thing is will she make money? I think she'll sell...who cares if she's a one hit wonder I wouldn't mind having just a piece of Brittney's first album..or Avril's...I bet it was a nice chunk of change
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Hire a pop-rock writer, restrict her to power chords, and hire a skilled trained guitarist for supplimental lines. Get a good producer, and have someone else play her parts in the studio. She'll go far. She just needs a well produced video.

I see what you mean about bringing back old-school rock.. that's cool, but just remember it's all gonna sound like pop-rock. With a good management company behind you, it should be pretty easy to get tour-support... if you even care about that..

even if you have money, I reccommend using tour-support/distro as an excuse for building a relationship with one or more major-labels.

Haha... hopefully, people don't consuse her with Kathryn Rose on Matrix Entertainment... http://www.kathrynrose.net
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she is only 13.. let her grow up first...geesh. and where is her mom and dad in all of this?

Lets see how burnt out or maybe even drugged out she is at age 18....sorry, but i dont approve of young girls at that age..
in any kind of business that is surrounded by drugs sex and alcohol ..I hope for her sake and not the big money guys out there, that she fares well .


Vince neil still performs.. thats funny.. last time i seen him he was so drunk he played one song and told the crowd they were all fuckers and they had to take him off stage..was quite lame.. i did trip him as he was walking by me at the bar.. he was too busy staring at my tits and being an asshole he didnt even notice..hahahahahahaha
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#3 so fucking what she's another Avril knock off...maybe that's what inspired her I don't know don't know her life story the important thing is will she make money?...MORE THAN DAMN LIKELY.

Looks like she's already got a good start...like I said the important thing is will she make money? I think she'll sell...who cares if she's a one hit wonder I wouldn't mind having just a piece of Brittney's first album..or Avril's...I bet it was a nice chunk of change
ask avril about all the money she didnt make and the record comapanies did... hell ask any musician for that part.... the artists have to work their asses off on road tours to make money..sad..
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ask avril about all the money she didnt make and the record comapanies did... hell ask any musician for that part.... the artists have to work their asses off on road tours to make money..sad..
Oh really? School me 'cause I is so iggorant.

Part of life baby...as long as I got my cut and the star gets their cut as agreed to in contract it's all cool.
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what a joke.

people who cant even say the work 'fuck' in a song shouldnt claim to be rock.

go learn about little boys girl.

you aint never gonna be rock and roll.

thias city is filled with kids like this.

nothing new.

just another one in the 'rock rush'

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Oh really? School me 'cause I is so iggorant.

Part of life baby...as long as I got my cut and the star gets their cut as agreed to in contract it's all cool.
oh sweetie, you dont want me to school you..lol

you quoted it perfect.."as long as you get your cut".. the record companies make millions off of these artists... the artists makes hundred of thousands maybe.. and do most of the work..yep, its part of life if you want to be a sell out to the big man. my bro was signed with columbia records for a few years.. he said fuck it, and now does all of his work on his own . nope, he is not famous, nor is he filthy stinking rich.. but he is happy that others quit getting rich off of him...
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oh sweetie, you dont want me to school you..lol

you quoted it perfect.."as long as you get your cut".. the record companies make millions off of these artists... the artists makes hundred of thousands maybe.. and do most of the work..yep, its part of life if you want to be a sell out to the big man. my bro was signed with columbia records for a few years.. he said fuck it, and now does all of his work on his own . nope, he is not famous, nor is he filthy stinking rich.. but he is happy that others quit getting rich off of him...
Translation: My brother plays in a cover band at the local bar. ;)

j/k settle down...it's all about money in the end.

The way I look at it is if you agree to a certain % (and in the beginning you may not have a choice because you are a "nobody") then you can't really bitch about it can you?

What do you do? You bust your ass to get your share, and when the time comes for renegotiations you try to get a better deal and if you're worth a shit they will give it to you..that's just the way it works in ALL BUSINESSES.
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you dont agree to a %, you are told what you get. been happening for years.

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Then they should fulfill whatever obligations they have and go indie...isn't that the way most rappers are making their money now?

Hell I watch Cribs, they must be doing something right...LOL
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:44 AM   #40
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you dont agree to a %, you are told what you get. been happening for years.

1%
You do agree if you sign the contract.

If they don't have the pull to get bigger numbers then not much they can do can they?

And I'm a big fan of Jane's Addiction.
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:46 AM   #41
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Why hasnt special education replied tot his thread, the topic would suggest that this is one thread we were guaranteed he would reply to
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:49 AM   #42
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Why hasnt special education replied tot his thread, the topic would suggest that this is one thread we were guaranteed he would reply to




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Old 10-27-2003, 09:49 AM   #43
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You do agree if you sign the contract.

If they don't have the pull to get bigger numbers then not much they can do can they?

And I'm a big fan of Jane's Addiction.
Im not going to argue this with you.

I got way too much design work to do today. I dont split my % with ANYONE. ;)

And Janes Addiction rules.
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:51 AM   #44
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Im not going to argue this with you.

I got way too much design work to do today. I dont split my % with ANYONE. ;)

And Janes Addiction rules.
LOL so do I...so let us both STFU and get back to work
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:53 AM   #45
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Translation: My brother plays in a cover band at the local bar. ;)

j/k settle down...it's all about money in the end.

The way I look at it is if you agree to a certain % (and in the beginning you may not have a choice because you are a "nobody") then you can't really bitch about it can you?

What do you do? You bust your ass to get your share, and when the time comes for renegotiations you try to get a better deal and if you're worth a shit they will give it to you..that's just the way it works in ALL BUSINESSES.
translation.. my brother is his own band fool... translation, he runs his own studio ...translation he was in rolling stone as singer songwriter of the year.. check out the one with victorias secret model nude covered in rose petals...thats the issue

dont ya love it when people assume

I'm well aware of how the business goes.. i fell off the turnip truck many moons ago..smacked my head so hard on the ground, i swore never to climb back up

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Old 10-27-2003, 09:59 AM   #46
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translation.. my brother is his own band fool... translation, he runs his own studio ...translation he was in rolling stone as singer songwriter of the year.. check out the one with victorias secret model nude covered in rose petals...thats the issue

dont ya love it when people assume

I'm well aware of how the business goes.. i fell off the turnip truck many moons ago..smacked my head so hard on the ground, i swore never to climb back up

now come give me a hug and i promise not to eat you
#1 I didn't assume anything other than that you had a sense of humor.

#2 I've got uncles have been in this business longer than you and your brother have been alive.

So you're not "schooling" anyone.

And if you wanna drop names...my cousin Noah, his daughter...is Johnny Cash's grand daughter so there :P
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:01 AM   #47
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i hate the business side of music, ruins so many good bands. im sure this chick could sell to the mindless retards who view MTV as their personal jesus.
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:13 AM   #49
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#1 I didn't assume anything other than that you had a sense of humor.

#2 I've got uncles have been in this business longer than you and your brother have been alive.

So you're not "schooling" anyone.

And if you wanna drop names...my cousin Noah, his daughter...is Johnny Cash's grand daughter so there :P
yes, i do have a warped sense of humor..

and your uncles are how old..lol.. im no spring chicken (bordering old hag stage)

not trying to school ya.. just stating fact that i am aware of.

I havent even started to drop names in that biz.. way too many..way too much fun was had...
and Johnny cash was the king of the road!!!!! seen him quite a few times... your cousins daughter is one lucky gal
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:26 AM   #50
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Same here...

Singing lessons for more range in her voice.

Harmony... Melody... It is the simple things... Listen to Metallica and you will hear range. It is not all throat gargle. You will hear the guitar and the singer sharing some harmony for a few bars... You will he Melody here and there. Guitar solo... She needs a drummer who can press out some double base here and there. Once in a while a song needs to have the band shut up and have her crone out something that shows she can sing. Then get everyone to put an ear piece in their ear, and give them a ticker... Does wonders for timing...

Would I support her by letting my 12 year old Avril wanna-be go see her play, sure... But she is not an Avril yet. She still needs work to get there.
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