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candyflip · 12-22-2003, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf
feltch, for crying out loud, don't go hammering the guy for your PRICE TABLE
it's a VERY small and basic table, anybody could redo the SAME thing by scratch and turn it into coincidence

hammer him all you want for stealing your design, but let it drop for that stupid table, will ya?

Hey man...that's all he can hammer me for. I don't mind that he's using what I did to drum up some more business for himself.

I did design these galleries in the same style that he does. It's not rocket science.

He uses a simple layout. Some text boxes from time to time. A Text header at the top, one and the bottom and a few in between. It's your standard gallery layout, except for a few photoshopped images, which are nothing more than oversized text, with a gradient and layer stroke. Basic stuff...I could probably teach someone who's never used Photoshop how to build these type galleries in less than an hour.

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

I did design these galleries in the same style that he does.

It may not be rocket science, but its what I do, and Im glad i am moving on to better things.

go back to getting your girlfriend to design galleries in my style, its cool, youre obviously HURTING for cash if thats the case.

http://www.fletchxxx.com

i got better things to do than chase some guy who is getting his girlfriend to design like me, small potatoes fella.

thanks for the publicity

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

It may not be rocket science, but its what I do, and Im glad i am moving on to better things.

go back to getting your girlfriend to design galleries in my style, its cool, youre obviously HURTING for cash if thats the case.

http://www.fletchxxx.com

i got better things to do than chase some guy who is getting his girlfriend to design like me, small potatoes fella.

thanks for the publicity

Not hurting for cash...just planning on a long distance move to NYC. Gotta start collecting for those $3000 a month rent payments.

I take full credit for these ones as well. I had never done anything in Photoshop before putting these together. It was almost too easy...except for those damn jaggies at the top and bottom of the main tables.

In all honesty though, she'd probably manage to put on a better show than either you or I...so things are looking up here too.

I appreciate the publicity as well. Don't think that people haven't been popping on my site all morning too. Submission service and template design go hand in hand and sell well

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 12:42 PM

Any guy who whores his girl out for gallery work MUST be broke.

Deny it all you want.

Anyway, just move along.

http://www.fletchxxx.com

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 12:46 PM

Shiiiiit,.... So at 10 bucks a pop, 300 galleries a month and she can be paying the rent.

Glad to be of service again.

I help out of work couples pay rent!

hahaha

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Any guy who whores his girl out for gallery work MUST be broke.

Deny it all you want.

Anyway, just move along.

http://www.fletchxxx.com

Good comeback. Only she won't be doing galleries. That's what the outsourcing is for. My girl is good at what she does and wants to whore her own skills. You gonna hate on that too?

You know nothing of me. You know nothing of my background. You know nothing of where my money came from. Shit...if you didn't know "stroke", "drop-shadow" or "gradient overlay" I'd probably have to say you know nothing all around.

Go back to your hole and I'll go back to mine.
http://www.any6.com

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

You know nothing of me.

There is nothing to know.

Youve never really did anything in this industry.

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 01:00 PM

I forget the quote... ran across it one day.

'Something about'''' designing is one thing, coming up with a style is another, helping shape the style of other designers is a whole new level.

regarding folks copying Mike W and his style.

I remain positive because I know when I open photoshop I dont have to look at someone elses stuff to please my clients.

MetaMan · 12-22-2003, 01:01 PM

this has to be the worst publicity stunt known to man.

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

There is nothing to know.

Youve never really did anything in this industry.

Other than design some galleries and wasted time accumulating over 20,000 posts on GFY what have you done? I'd probably guess that it's right in line with what I've done too.

Regardless of what you think I may or may not have done, it's been enough to be able to make a nice living for the past 4 years without having to dip into my fund. Can't beat that, that's for sure.

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan
this has to be the worst publicity stunt known to man.

I know.

Its sad, im trying to not even have to do design work come the new year and i should have not even started this thread!

hahaha

Thrawn$ · 12-22-2003, 01:04 PM

candyflip is selling the lil2rich4u2's database and the 2 others i gave him

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 01:06 PM

In fact, looks like im setting myself up for a bunch of FREE WORK since theres a lot of folks out there.

Candyflip isnt the only one knocking me off.

You can all have fun with the fletch-knock off gallery makers, looks like youll all have stiff competition.

I fucked myself, I gotta give out a bunch of work hahaha

who can knock my galleries off cheapest and quickest, ill buy them in batches of 10 and resell them!!!

hahaha

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I forget the quote... ran across it one day.

'Something about'''' designing is one thing, coming up with a style is another, helping shape the style of other designers is a whole new level.

regarding folks copying Mike W and his style.

I remain positive because I know when I open photoshop I dont have to look at someone elses stuff to please my clients.

MikeW's style consists of more than the three basic Photoshop layer styles that you seem to have mastered.

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 01:07 PM

candyflip, better make sure you know who your clients are.

If i can get a deal ill be incognito.

heres to less work for me and more orders!

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Thrawn$
candyflip is selling the lil2rich4u2's database and the 2 others i gave him

I don't think I know who you are.

The database's I am selling are updated versions of databases that I have traded for or had put together in the past. I am maintaining them and I will be providing an ongoing update service in the future.

My niche database has had sites deleted, added, fixed and revised, and is in the process of having 3 additional niches added to it, which will be ready by new years.

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
candyflip, better make sure you know who your clients are.

If i can get a deal ill be incognito.

heres to less work for me and more orders!

You could always just hire me.

Cheers.

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

You could always just hire me.

That's the funniest shit I have heard all week.

Sounds like you need to get back to work 'modifying the database' you bought from someone else and then try to resell.

A common theme it seems.

hahaha

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

That's the funniest shit I have heard all week.

Sounds like you need to get back to work 'modifying the database' you bought from someone else and then try to resell.

A common theme it seems.

hahaha

I was just playing man. Glad to see that you at least have a sense of humor and can laugh.

My databases are mine. Good try though. I have paid for custom databases to be built and have traded using these for others which I have taken the time to maintain. Not because I wanted to sell them, but because I use them on a daily basis.

It was only after fielding a ton of requests after making mention of them in a thread that I decided to sell them.

You'd probably be surprised to know that some of the other AS databases that are available started their life as one of mine

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 01:59 PM

I was laughing AT you, not with you.

There is nothing you have to prove to me other than there are people who have given you a database and you have tried to resell them.

The only thing I am surprised at is how no matter what, other crook-like behavior you do, seems to make it in threads like this.

Now he sells databases he gets from other people, but he added a few niches to them

hahah

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I was laughing AT you, not with you.

There is nothing you have to prove to me other than there are people who have given you a database and you have tried to resell them.

The only thing I am surprised at is how no matter what, other crook-like behavior you do, seems to make it in threads like this.

Now he sells databases he gets from other people, but he added a few niches to them

hahah

You're pretty good at spinning words around. Thankfully most of the people here know how to read and a few can actually comprehend at that.

I said that I paid someone to build the databases for me. They are my property and I choose what to do with them. I chose what to do when I gave a copy of my main database to lil2rich and quite a few others on this board. I can modify them as I see fit and sell them or give them to whomever I choose.

So far, nothing you've thrown has stuck. I haven't copied any of your galleries, your images or your html. I haven't sold anyone else's databases. And I still haven't rewritten Turbo Traffic Trader.

Laugh at me all you want. I'm still laughing at you because you are all bent out of shape that someone else mastered the only three Photoshop skills you have.

Ironhorse · 12-22-2003, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

Hey man...that's all he can hammer me for. I don't mind that he's using what I did to drum up some more business for himself.

I did design these galleries in the same style that he does. It's not rocket science.

He uses a simple layout. Some text boxes from time to time. A Text header at the top, one and the bottom and a few in between. It's your standard gallery layout, except for a few photoshopped images, which are nothing more than oversized text, with a gradient and layer stroke. Basic stuff...I could probably teach someone who's never used Photoshop how to build these type galleries in less than an hour.

Dude, what kind of fucko' are you man? First you steal his shit and spend all day rambling how he has no proof, and then you insult his work after you stole it? You've already admitted to 'studying' his designs so just be a good boy and apologize and we can all get back to work here.

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse

Dude, what kind of fucko' are you man? First you steal his shit and spend all day rambling how he has no proof, and then you insult his work after you stole it? You've already admitted to 'studying' his designs so just be a good boy and apologize and we can all get back to work here.

I haven't admitted to studying his designs. I haven't admitted to stealing anything. Because I haven't taken anything from anyone. I've never rambled on about proof at all...there isn't any proof because nothing was stolen. Fletch is just upset because someone else can provide the same thing he does at a lower price. That's all this is.

A client came to me asking to have some galleries designed. They wanted them a specific way and I delivered. I'm not insulting Fletch's work at all. I went to him to have him take care of my clients needs, but he didn't bother to respond. It's because of that, that I went about doing them myself. They are all 100% original...html and graphic images.

What I am saying is that he's claiming I "stole" his style when his "style" is nothing more than a few simple photoshop effects. I didn't know that being the first to use "drop-shadow" in a gallery design makes Fletch the only one able to do so.

JSA Matt · 12-22-2003, 03:37 PM

Now that I see his sig, you're a total jackass and a theif candyflip.

"Get FletchXXX Quality Galleries for 1/2 The Price"

This will not work out in your favor like you are expecting it to. It is not going to bring you any business at all it is simply showing your true colors. Anyone who even considers doing business with a person like you is noone I will ever do business with, choose your portfolio carefully.

Btw, what is that pixel game you stole the graphics from on any6.com? What else did you steal?

Quote:

Administrative Contact:
Berardi, Jason [email protected]
51 Toni Terrace
Rochester, NY 14624
US
585-957-0690

Definately added to my shady persons list

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Now that I see his sig, you're a total jackass and a theif candyflip.

"Get FletchXXX Quality Galleries for 1/2 The Price"

This will not work out in your favor like you are expecting it to. It is not going to bring you any business at all it is simply showing your true colors. Anyone who even considers doing business with a person like you is noone I will ever do business with, choose your portfolio carefully.

Btw, what is that pixel game you stole the graphics from on any6.com? What else did you steal?

Total jackass I will take...no problems there. But please show me what I have stolen? I just built some galleries in the same style that Fletch does his in. There are a few others out there doing the same thing. If everyone is doing original work...how is anyone stepping on Fletch's toes?

Check out his sig and you'll see why mine is the way it is. I haven't stolen anything, so for him to insinuate that in his sig is just wrong if you ask me. You'll notice that I just added it since this spat has taken off.

I was too lazy to do the layout for my site, so it's just a modified Postnuke theme. The author released it under GPL license and I am free to do with it what I choose.

JSA Matt · 12-22-2003, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

Total jackass I will take...no problems there. But please show me what I have stolen? I just built some galleries in the same style that Fletch does his in. There are a few others out there doing the same thing. If everyone is doing original work...how is anyone stepping on Fletch's toes?

Check out his sig and you'll see why mine is the way it is. I haven't stolen anything, so for him to insinuate that in his sig is just wrong if you ask me. You'll notice that I just added it since this spat has taken off.

I was too lazy to do the layout for my site, so it's just a modified Postnuke theme. The author released it under GPL license and I am free to do with it what I choose.

Don't try to prove yourself to me dude, you're a shady mother fucker and I feel sorry for anyone that does business with you.

*oops* someones Paypal account is under investigation.

JamesK · 12-22-2003, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse

Dude, what kind of fucko' are you man? First you steal his shit and spend all day rambling how he has no proof, and then you insult his work after you stole it? You've already admitted to 'studying' his designs so just be a good boy and apologize and we can all get back to work here.

amen.

BlueDesignStudios · 12-22-2003, 03:59 PM

Go get 'em, Fletch XXX!

TDF · 12-22-2003, 04:02 PM

this thread is sad

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt

Don't try to prove yourself to me dude, you're a shady mother fucker and I feel sorry for anyone that does business with you.

*oops* someones Paypal account is under investigation.

I'm not trying to prove myself to you. I have no clue who you are and could honestly care less.

Any one who does business with me is well taken care of. I have no need to cheat anyone.

I'm still waiting for you to show me what I stole.

JSA Matt · 12-22-2003, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip

I'm not trying to prove myself to you. I have no clue who you are and could honestly care less.

Any one who does business with me is well taken care of. I have no need to cheat anyone.

I'm still waiting for you to show me what I stole.

I would like to quote SleazyDream on this one..

"IDIOT."

Amputate Your Head · 12-22-2003, 04:13 PM

this is what you're saying he stole??

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

this is a joke, right?

Roald · 12-22-2003, 04:14 PM

Catfight!

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
this is what you're saying he stole??

this is a joke, right?

I was waiting for the big Amp entrance.

heheh

Hi Amp.

And again, I never used the term STOLE.

In fact, the first post in this thread stated 'instead of getting pissed... ill make you all a deal'

the similarities and copying of my templates is something you wont understand because my work sucks!

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I was waiting for the big Amp entrance.

heheh

Hi Amp.

And again, I never used the term STOLE.

In fact, the first post in this thread stated 'instead of getting pissed... ill make you all a deal'

the similarities and copying of my templates is something you wont understand because my work sucks!

Your sig uses the word "stealing". Last time I checked that, steal was the root and stole is the past tense of steal.

I have no problem being called an asshole or an idiot...but I haven't stolen anything.

Amputate Your Head · 12-22-2003, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I was waiting for the big Amp entrance.

heheh

Hi Amp.

And again, I never used the term STOLE.

In fact, the first post in this thread stated 'instead of getting pissed... ill make you all a deal'

the similarities and copying of my templates is something you wont understand because my work sucks!

I'll not be drawn into your ridiculous drama today Fletch... I'm simply asking if that image comparison is what this is all about, because if it is, that's pretty sad. It's a three column black & white table. There's nothing *special* about it. There are probably million of those just like it all across the Internet.

Fletch XXX · 12-22-2003, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

Your sig uses the word "stealing". Last time I checked that, steal was the root and stole is the past tense of steal.

I have no problem being called an asshole or an idiot...but I haven't stolen anything.

My sig asks if you know anyone stealing my designs.

And it offers 'Buy One Get One Free' if you do.

Libertine · 12-22-2003, 04:27 PM

If this were a publicity stunt, it'd be pure genious. I bet both Fletch and candyflip are getting good business out of this.

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FeltchXXX

My sig asks if you know anyone stealing my designs.

And it offers 'Buy One Get One Free' if you do.

So since no one is actually stealing from you. No one can cash in on your "buy one get one"?

I get it now, but do the rest of the sheep.

Roald · 12-22-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
If this were a publicity stunt, it'd be pure genious. I bet both Fletch and candyflip are getting good business out of this.

*getting sig. in*

Amputate Your Head · 12-22-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip

So since no one is actually stealing from you. No one can cash in on your "buy one get one"?

I get it now, but do the rest of the sheep.

you quoted the wrong person. Those words were never typed by me.

Roald · 12-22-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

you quoted the wrong person. Those words were never typed by me.

Ah ah Amp --> I'll not be drawn into your ridiculous drama today Fletch... (Quote Amp)

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

you quoted the wrong person. Those words were never typed by me.

Fixed

Ironhorse · 12-22-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by QuaShe

*getting sig. in*

Man, you gotta work it while it's hot

BlueDesignStudios · 12-22-2003, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
If this were a publicity stunt, it'd be pure genious. I bet both Fletch and candyflip are getting good business out of this.

*burp*

Can I get a little publicity?

Roald · 12-22-2003, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

*burp*

Can I get a little publicity?

Nah your portfolio is big enough already

candyflip · 12-22-2003, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

*burp*

Can I get a little publicity?

Sure, why not...hop on the bandwagon.

TDF · 12-22-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by QuaShe

Ah ah Amp --> I'll not be drawn into your ridiculous drama today Fletch... (Quote Amp)

never thought i'd see that day

Honeyslut · 12-22-2003, 10:05 PM

Hey Fletch,

When did you open the any6 site ?

http://www.any6.com/index.php?module...id= 1&meid=-1

That betty love temp sure looks like one of the goth sin ones that you made me .

Honestly, if I would have been shown the site with out this thread I would have though it was a Fletch site at first glance .

psyko514 · 12-22-2003, 10:18 PM

candyflip... are you going to say that you also decided to offer 8 banners for $100 without seeing fletch's site?

12-22-2003, 12:42 PM	#54
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12-22-2003, 12:46 PM	#55
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Shiiiiit,.... So at 10 bucks a pop, 300 galleries a month and she can be paying the rent. Glad to be of service again. I help out of work couples pay rent! hahaha __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I forget the quote... ran across it one day. 'Something about'''' designing is one thing, coming up with a style is another, helping shape the style of other designers is a whole new level. regarding folks copying Mike W and his style. I remain positive because I know when I open photoshop I dont have to look at someone elses stuff to please my clients. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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12-22-2003, 01:06 PM	#63
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	In fact, looks like im setting myself up for a bunch of FREE WORK since theres a lot of folks out there. Candyflip isnt the only one knocking me off. You can all have fun with the fletch-knock off gallery makers, looks like youll all have stiff competition. I fucked myself, I gotta give out a bunch of work hahaha who can knock my galleries off cheapest and quickest, ill buy them in batches of 10 and resell them!!! hahaha __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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12-22-2003, 01:07 PM	#65
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	candyflip, better make sure you know who your clients are. If i can get a deal ill be incognito. heres to less work for me and more orders! __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

12-22-2003, 01:59 PM	#70
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I was laughing AT you, not with you. There is nothing you have to prove to me other than there are people who have given you a database and you have tried to resell them. The only thing I am surprised at is how no matter what, other crook-like behavior you do, seems to make it in threads like this. Now he sells databases he gets from other people, but he added a few niches to them hahah __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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12-22-2003, 10:05 PM	#99
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12-22-2003, 10:18 PM	#100
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