crockett

I belive there is a big diffrence in a 18yr old and a 16 yr old... is the only niche you promote grannys?

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Theo

these cases of partents are not different from the ones that let their kids to sleep in the same room with michael jackson after all the accusations of the last years.

Libertine

Dude, bringing a person's kid up on the boards is fucking tasteless

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AM Jeff

Punkworld, yes it is.
Ask Davie what it is all about.

Pretty bad, when a man has to lie about his child to drum up business, in between scamming them.

True, he was banned from Netpond for that and various reasons.

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Libertine

Keeping in mind the individual differences between people, it should be obvious that some 16 year olds are more mature than some 18 year olds.
The "18 years old" line is completely arbitrary, people don't just wake up on their 18th birthday, all of a sudden having mentally switched from childhood to adulthood.

Although I fully agree with the legal limit of 18, I don't consider it a moral limit. So I am against these sites for their legal implications (they blur what should be a simple and clear line), not their moral implications.

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AM Jeff

Dave, you are so full of shit.
Want me to dig out the link where you DENIED that anything happened to her?

Truth is, you don't know wtf the truth is.

You been caught full of lies, scamming, cheating, threating...and being lame.

Tell the fucking truth for once.

I can easliy pull up the post.
Careful now...
Is she alive and well or what?

Gotta tell the truth sometime.
Might as well start here.

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KRL

Unfortunately, sadly and incredibly, that stuff is considered legal, not cp.

You gotta wonder what's up at the hosting company on something like that as well. They're obviously well aware of it.



Where are the parents? Probably at the bank counting all the money rolling in.

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VideoVoyeur

Jeff your beyond dumb, I can post on Netp0nd when I need to, and as far as my kids, theyre none of your pedophile concerns.

AM Jeff

Really Dave?

Go post away on the Pond.
Bet ya..ya can't...lmao

Ya been BANNED BRUTHA..lol

Btw..I am not interested in your kid/kids.
I just want you to STOP FUCKING.SCAMMING, LYING, CHEATING people.

I doubt if that will ever happen.
But, I do believe in good in all people.
Even if your full of ignorance.

So, when are you gonna fess up to your bs or ya gonna keep it flowing?

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Roald

Probably at the bank counting all the money rolling in

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VideoVoyeur

Hey pedo, its on the flat board.

Now what bitch.



Owned.

WebTitan

parents like that should be strung up

AM Jeff

Really? Wow...they didn't get that new IP.
I'll be gone and ban that IP.

Sweet..ty
We wanna keep people like you away from our Ponders.

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Btw..that board is pretty much spam board anymore..lol
No one pays attention to it anyway.

Thanks for the IP.

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VideoVoyeur

I have an unlimited amount to choose from Jeff

DrtySweeet

i agree 100000% that IS kiddyporn gawd..
my agent wouldnt even let me do underwear shoots for jcpennys catalogs when i was that young. christ alice these ppl are sick

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Damian_Maxcash

Am I the only one that can see that girl on the front pages "bits".....

They are hanging out all over the place...... surely that makes it nude.... and illegal?

InsaneMidget

They are legal, huge television corps have had big specials on these sites to expose them, but nobody can do anything, atleast not yet it seems.

AM Jeff

Yup Dave, and each post ya do on Netpond will be deleted..lol

"WE" don't want your kind there.
People that come to the pond, come to do business and they are respectable people.

We don't think too highly of scammers and theives.

Now, run along and go ask your wife, how many kids you have and how many your supposed to have.
Since your memory is short.

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notjoe

when a kid has her legs spread opens so you can see right up her dress i would believe that is kiddy porn or atleast it should be. It's clear that the only product being sold here are the pre-sluts.

When is the last time you saw a 13 yr old spread eagle to promote some panties in a magazine? you dont. Hopefully some of us can get these shut down!

VideoVoyeur

Yes, so respectable they have to pay people 5 cents per post...

I can tell...

AM Jeff

Those sites are clearly targeting pedophiles.

But until Verotel or other billing companies refuse to quit processing sites for them. They wil remain.

Wanna do something about it..pound on Verotels ass.
Until they stop processing sites like that.

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AM Jeff

Yanno Dave, something you don't understand about that concept. Among many others.
They pay people, to get more impressions, traffic, for their sponsors.

Yanno..its not a bad idea at all.
Many GFYers go there to post as well.
It helps all sponsors.

Lens and Adult.com's program is over there too and they gain more exposure for the exact same thing.

I understand why you have a problem with it.
You don't pay your bills. let alone, scam people for money.

At least, Netpond "gives" back to the Webmasters.

What have you done, besides steal, lie and scam?

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rutopia101

that is real bad what does this young girl think ? does she have a choice ?
wish there was away to find out and wape that site out

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direcpc.com


oh really?

AM Jeff

huh?

WTF are ya yappin about now?

Don't go tellin these people some weird shit like you did the other night.
Claiming I "just" told you..my Mom died...lol

You have one wild imagination son.

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BTW Dave, since your avoiding the other thread..ya might wanna check it out.

VideoVoyeur(Davie) credibilty..lol

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KRL

Why do people go into 1 on 1 fights on threads. Start a new thread already if you want to go at it.

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xdcdave

It is sites like this that will cause the demise of Verotel. How can a business sustain itself when acting on behalf of such grey area sites?

I wish I could go pull the plug on Verotel myself for processesing for this garbage.

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Danny_C

My thoughts exactly.

AM Jeff

I did start a new thread..lol
Thats why I did it.

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Spunky

Disturbing. I feel its more the parents pushing the kids to get involved more than the kids themselves

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I don't think any laws are being broken - Unfortunately.

Certainly, all legistlators have to do more work on tightening the laws for cp -

This is 100% catering for cp - Any webmaster running this sort of site has to be a pretty sad fuck -

I totally agree with some of the "take them out" comments -
There are enough people here who are 'skilled' in killing servers - Why don't they give it a shot?

It is about time we started working to a few rules in this biz - Sort of self-regulation, if you like - Getting rid of this stuff would be a nice start.
And boycotting verotel for taking their % would be a bonus...

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Roald

Ofcourse its the parents, ever seen girls of this age spreading their legs like this? They should hang those folks or somethign

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gornyhuy

Yup, right up the shorts. If its not really showing anything it is certainly implying a LOT.

Fuckers are sick. This should be classified as exploitation and abuse IMHO.

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Libertine

Not to be an asshole or anything, but yes. When I was 14, I fucked 14 year old girls who spread their legs like that.

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CDSmith

Back to the question of legality.....

From the <a href="http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/csc-scc/en/pub/2001/vol1/html/2001scr1_0045.html" TARGET="_blank">R v Sharpe decision in Canada</a>:
The underage modelling sites in question certainly approaches the line as far as Canadian law goes, at least in their free tours. There is definitely an obvious attempt at "sexiness" in the photos. I would have to say based on the tours alone they probably aren't illegal. However, if any more explicit photos containing exposed sexual areas of the girls are in the member's sections that would then cross the line of legality. In terms of what is child porn, at least by Canadian definition, simple nudity does in fact equal sex, and is considered an offense.



Aside from the legal question, I would also say that parents who advocate or allow their kids to present themselves in such a sexual way on the internet ought to be strung up and flogged publicly. If they wanted to start the girl on the path of a legitimate modelling career there are certainly more and less questionable ways to do it than this.

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Roald

there are always the little sluts who are just fucked in the head

Anyway, check this out: http://www.sandra-model.com/about.html
-->The site is intended to promote Sandra's modeling career

Sure

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Slick

Speaking of sick. I clicked on the "Forum" link on Sandra's site and I found this thread on it, talk about disturbing

http://pub42.ezboard.com/fams10829fr...icID=442.topic

I'll cut and paste the initial post from that thread -


Dream Date
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If you could meet just one of the AMS models for dinner who would it be, and what would you talk about?

Courtney
Sandra
Lili
Adreana
Jenica
Tyler
Cammy
October
Tristin

MakaveIi

wicked!!! we can all go signup for their affiliate program and make 35% on rebills!



lame.. both the site and verotel for processing the site.

MakaveIi

ahh that shit is just wrong.

I didn't even see it until now, but they are offering wallpaper, and "free" video clips.

KRL

True. Forgot about that.

Most boys start jerking off at 10-12. Girls usually start playing with other girls by 12-13 during sleepovers.

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MakaveIi

There's the ring leader below.. the supposed "help you teen model" company.. Anyone want to go kick some teeth in?
.. or maybe see what the host thinks?



modelshop.com Back-order this name


Registrant:
Action On-line, Inc (MODELSHOP10-DOM)
200 S. Hanley Rd. Suite 700
St. Louis, MO 63105
US

Domain Name: MODELSHOP.COM

Administrative Contact:
Dolan, James J (JJD575) [email protected]
Action Online, Inc.
200 S HANLEY RD STE 700
SAINT LOUIS, MO 63105-3428
US
314-726-4994 fax: 314-726-4928

Technical Contact:
Administrator, Domain (DA550) [email protected]
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2403 Sidney St, Suite 510
Pittsburgh, PA 15203
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+1 412 381 7247 fax: +1 412 381 9997

Record expires on 31-Jul-2006.
Record created on 01-Aug-1998.
Database last updated on 26-Jan-2004 10:13:41 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.132
NS2.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.162

Trixie Racer

This is the first time I've ever reported any site. Thanks for the link. That is just sick.

steve90

I agree with that

KRL

Those teen model sites have all been reported in the past. There was a case in Colorado where they attempted to prosecute one of the operators for cp and the jury ruled in favor of the web site owner that it wasn't cp.

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webseth

i'm pretty sure even full on nudity is legal as long as the 12 year old isnt spreading her pussy or doing anything "erotic", there are a lot of nudist websites out there and they arent illegal.

- Seth

CDSmith

According to the letter of Canadian law at least, that would be quite illegal.

"visual representations the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a sexual purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age of 18 years."


Those sites are brimming with depicted "sexiness".... that is their main drawing card.

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yes my point was the "for a sexual purpose" thing, and yes those same poses without clothes would be illegal. but i mean you could ge them naked as long as they werent grabbing their crotches and stuff and technically still be in the clear. BUT I cant imagine anyone that wants to put themselves on the edge like that, akin to the public flasher sites like nebcoeds where it could go either way depending on the mood of the judge or the makeup of the jury.

But why bother? theres too many super hot sluts over 18 you can abuse in every shape or form to mess with technicalities like this.

- Seth