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Old 02-07-2004, 07:02 AM   #101
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I love the way people like to separate murders and gun murders.

Facts:

Amsterdam, where our lovely gun hating Battus lives, has a higher murder rate than any other similar sized city in the US except Washington DC.

Speaking of Washington DC, they have some of the most restrictive laws against guns. Ooops! Seems the cities with the highest murder rates in the US have the most restrictive gun laws. Cities with the most relaxed gun laws have the lowest murder rates.

In GA, a town called Kennesaw passed a law several years ago where everyone was required by law to own a gun. ALL CRIMES, including murders, dropped and have not risen.

It makes sense that the fewer guns you have, the fewer gun murders you're going to have. But dead is dead. Compare apples and apples if you're going to look at murder rates.

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uh it would be helpful if you were actually telling the truth


murder rates.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:06 AM   #102
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:49 AM   #103
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aslong as the ppl have guns the goverment will keep it's cool....gun control look what happen when pol pot, hitler used gun control didn't go to well,huh....shit happens may her little soul rest in peace,but this is no reason for there to be gun control. no matter what crimanls will always have access to guns..


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Thats exactly it. They government wants to get our guns away from us because as soon as they do, we cannot resit them when they come for our last shred of civil rights. Unarmed peasants are easily conqured. Espically in today's world of nuclear bombs, laser guided missles and stealth aircraft.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:07 PM   #104
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Amsterdam, where our lovely gun hating Battus lives, has a higher murder rate than any other similar sized city in the US except Washington DC.
I call bullshit.

Back it up or shut your goddamn cakehole!
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:25 PM   #105
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I call bullshit.

Back it up or shut your goddamn cakehole!
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http://www.ssaa.org.au/stats.html

And I can find more if you'd like. And you can probably find a few to dispute me. Ain't the internet grand? It almost makes you feel like maybe you be thinking for yourself.......
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:26 PM   #106
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Thats exactly it. They government wants to get our guns away from us because as soon as they do, we cannot resit them when they come for our last shred of civil rights. Unarmed peasants are easily conqured. Espically in today's world of nuclear bombs, laser guided missles and stealth aircraft.
The government doesn't want to take our guns, liberal activists do!!!

Come for our last shred of civil rights??? That is hilarious!!

So what you are saying is if we didn't have guns, the government would nuke us and send laser guided missiles into our cities???

OMG that is even funnier than ?our last shred of civil rights.?
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:31 PM   #107
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Gladly

http://www.ssaa.org.au/stats.html

And I can find more if you'd like. And you can probably find a few to dispute me.
Yes, like the one SacX posted above.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/153988.stm
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:35 PM   #108
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Yes, like the one SacX posted above.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/153988.stm
Aw, c'mon - at least do some legwork yourself.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:36 PM   #109
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Aw, c'mon - at least do some legwork yourself.
I will later. Right now I'm going for a nap.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:44 PM   #110
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amsterdam homicide rate one of the highest in europe 5.37/100,000 lower than nearly every similar sized US city.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:59 PM   #111
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you don't corner me and i wont shoot. simple. leave me with no option and it's in you're face.
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:15 PM   #112
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just the facts. no preaching. as FOX says, "You Decide".

the whole arguement is moot anyway. just a social study.
there are too many guns in america for there ever to be any alternative.
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:16 PM   #113
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:17 PM   #114
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amsterdam homicide rate one of the highest in europe 5.37/100,000 lower than nearly every similar sized US city.
In fact, the entire US (291 million people) average is just a tad more than little Amsterdam:
http://www.morganquitno.com/met01rank.pdf

What's funny is how low the gun murders are in rural areas in the US and in my experience (since I grew up in them and live in one now), the percentage of people who own guns in rural areas is much higher than the percentage in large cities. If it hasn't already been said: People kill people.
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Old 02-07-2004, 10:19 PM   #115
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NOOOOOOOOO Please dont start the gun debate again! Yes we have too many guns but no way in hell will I give up the right to keep them.
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