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Old 03-07-2004, 04:04 PM   #1
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Clean site 100k daily uniques in 5 years?

Do you think its possible to build a al4a, the hun type site and building up 100k in daily traffic within 5 years? I think it would require alot of consistant PR work. Bumper stickers, tshirts, word of mouth, business cards left in restrooms, flyers and things. You could also filter alot of your own traffic to the site as well and perm link trade with other clean sites, that would help. What are you thoughts?

All of my sites send out to trades from gallery skimming. Noone is going to bookmark a site that sends you to another site on a gallery link unless you have extremely good quality and rare content.

I just fucking hate when after someone learns im in the adult business onine and they ask me "whats a good site to check out free porn?" and i have to reply with thehun all the time and not my own sites.

I want a tgp im proud of and i can say "yes! visit my site it fucking rocks and is updated daily!".

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Old 03-07-2004, 04:06 PM   #2
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:06 PM   #3
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100k in 5 years? There are people who can do that in 2 months.

Or do you mean no trade traffic, just bookmarks like the hun?
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:07 PM   #5
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and why not? I can build a 40K tgp with no trades in like 1 year. 100K shood be doable
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:07 PM   #6
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Uppps.. Saw that as 5 days, not 5 years.

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Old 03-07-2004, 04:08 PM   #7
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100k in 5 years? There are people who can do that in 2 months.

Or do you mean no trade traffic, just bookmarks like the hun?
Mininal trading, just bookmarks and free advertising.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:08 PM   #8
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100k in 5 years? There are people who can do that in 2 months.

Or do you mean no trade traffic, just bookmarks like the hun?
he means no trade script, pure bookmarkers.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:08 PM   #9
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maybe if you use all of your sites with trades to feed the clean site. once people realize its clean, they tend to stick around. Its just getting them there thats the hard part
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:09 PM   #10
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Or do you mean no trade traffic, just bookmarks like the hun?
Makes a huge difference...
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Mininal trading, just bookmarks and free advertising.
100K trading using a toplist only for example? Than you can do this for sure!! Not that hard even
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:11 PM   #12
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I always thought to myself that 10k unique daily on a clean tgp site with no blind links is like 50k on a tgp that skims traffic from galleries.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:11 PM   #13
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I have an insanely large ammount of bookmarkers and my site is thumb preview TGP that skims 50% to trades.

5k per day total and 1k of that is bookmarkers. I don't know why.. but that's 1k with no referer and no trade cookie.

http://www.coedcherry.com

So I disagree about trade skimming pissing off surfers. In fact most of my friends don't mind trade skimming at all.. they just look at it as more free porn when they end up at another TGP. And if they like your design and the galleries you list there's no reason they won't bookmark you.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:14 PM   #14
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and why not? I can build a 40K tgp with no trades in like 1 year. 100K shood be doable

how do you do it ?
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:15 PM   #15
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I have an insanely large ammount of bookmarkers and my site is thumb preview TGP that skims 50% to trades.

5k per day total and 1k of that is bookmarkers. I don't know why.. but that's 1k with no referer and no trade cookie.

http://www.coedcherry.com

So I disagree about trade skimming pissing off surfers. In fact most of my friends don't mind trade skimming at all.. they just look at it as more free porn when they end up at another TGP. And if they like your design and the galleries you list there's no reason they won't bookmark you.
OK
5k/day is nothing
I dont want to be mean, but there is a big difference between 100k/day (no trades) and 5k/day thumb preview
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:16 PM   #16
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I have an insanely large ammount of bookmarkers and my site is thumb preview TGP that skims 50% to trades.

5k per day total and 1k of that is bookmarkers. I don't know why.. but that's 1k with no referer and no trade cookie.

http://www.coedcherry.com

So I disagree about trade skimming pissing off surfers. In fact most of my friends don't mind trade skimming at all.. they just look at it as more free porn when they end up at another TGP. And if they like your design and the galleries you list there's no reason they won't bookmark you.
I personally would much rather visit al4a and know that on that site alone ill see good enough porn. People are busy nowdays, they want it now and where they are. Nice job on your traffic though, ive heard the same from others. Some tgps that skim have 10k+ bookmarkers a day. Im talking about 100k bookmarkers though and no trade scripts.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:16 PM   #17
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how do you do it ?
feed it for a few months then hope for word of mouth and some minimal trading using hard links... But I woouln't go for a no-skim TGP anymore.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:18 PM   #18
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feed it for a few months then hope for word of mouth and some minimal trading using hard links... But I woouln't go for a no-skim TGP anymore.

how much traffic would you throw at it ?
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:18 PM   #19
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feed it for a few months then hope for word of mouth and some minimal trading using hard links... But I woouln't go for a no-skim TGP anymore.
Why. Ive been told the same exact thing from heavy hitting trade script tgp owners. What is your reason for not attempting a clean site?
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how much traffic would you throw at it ?
Im guessing I could filter a few thousand uniques a day at it that i dont have to pay for. Just by simply putting a link to it from the bottom of all my other free pages and sites.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:19 PM   #21
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All I know is I used to hate getting sent all over the place and ending up with dialers installed and shit. If you kept me safe from the bullshit I would stick with you. Thats got to be why the hun is so big.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:23 PM   #22
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All I know is I used to hate getting sent all over the place and ending up with dialers installed and shit. If you kept me safe from the bullshit I would stick with you. Thats got to be why the hun is so big.
Exactly. Why do i give people what i wouldnt want? Just to have big counters? Well I make money doing what i do and thats what it comes down too. If i made all my tgps clean id probably be selling all my assets because my income would shit the bed. I think everyone should have one "project" site thats FUN for them and something they themselves would love to visit!
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:24 PM   #23
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Exactly. Why do i give people what i wouldnt want? Just to have big counters? Well I make money doing what i do and thats what it comes down too. If i made all my tgps clean id probably be selling all my assets because my income would shit the bed. I think everyone should have one "project" site thats FUN for them and something they themselves would love to visit!

I think thats the way to go.
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:27 PM   #24
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Why. Ive been told the same exact thing from heavy hitting trade script tgp owners. What is your reason for not attempting a clean site?
1) I want cash fast like now and not in 5 years
2) I make more with a 50K skimmed tgp than with a 10K noskim and the 50K one is easier to make..
3) I'm not in this TGP game for the long run. I try do diversify and move stuff to my offline business....

If you go for it, be prepared for a longgggg road ahead

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Exactly. Why do i give people what i wouldnt want? Just to have big counters? Well I make money doing what i do and thats what it comes down too. If i made all my tgps clean id probably be selling all my assets because my income would shit the bed. I think everyone should have one "project" site thats FUN for them and something they themselves would love to visit!
Well that's the reason you shood start a noskim TGP and with that attitude you could make it The Hun must have started just for the fun of it... and it shows
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Well that's the reason you shood start a noskim TGP and with that attitude you could make it The Hun must have started just for the fun of it... and it shows
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Old 03-07-2004, 04:46 PM   #27
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With a big enough feed and lots of quality links yes. But it would take a lot of time and money.
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clean sites grow very slowly.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:01 PM   #29
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yeah thats why I asked if its possible to get 100k in "5 years".
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No problem at all. Within 1 year its doable.
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if you have money you can build a 500k one

89.com proved it
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not true

whats the secret ? dump a shit load of traffic into it right away and then try and get the money back over time ?
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whats the secret ? dump a shit load of traffic into it right away and then try and get the money back over time ?
No secret

One way as mentioned is too stick hard links to it from your mediium -big sized tgp's and that will feed it staright clicked traffic . Bookmarkers will come also but nothing can be built overnight.
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My first TGP I got 40k in 10 days...
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Exactly. Why do i give people what i wouldnt want? Just to have big counters? Well I make money doing what i do and thats what it comes down too. If i made all my tgps clean id probably be selling all my assets because my income would shit the bed. I think everyone should have one "project" site thats FUN for them and something they themselves would love to visit!
nice words.
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if you have money you can build a 500k one

89.com proved it
Thats not a clean site, its loaded with deceptive links to trades.
I liked it though.
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ill post proof after i do it, but i wont tell ya how i did it
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ill post proof after i do it, but i wont tell ya how i did it
neither would I
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I'm seeing a very good trend---lots of useful posts lately.

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