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Old 04-05-2004, 11:23 AM   #1
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ARS 4 Real linking codes banned by The Hun?

It seems so...
Strange, since they are console free by default.
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Old 04-05-2004, 11:24 AM   #2
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its happened before, im sure they'll work it out again.
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Old 04-05-2004, 11:27 AM   #3
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I hope so.
The last time I was actually the person who emailed The Hun a few times to explain the new linking codes, now I hope someone else will do that.
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Old 04-05-2004, 11:39 AM   #4
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Every 2 - 3 months there is always a thread about a banner sponsor by the hun !
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Every 2 - 3 months there is always a thread about a banner sponsor by the hun !
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I hope so.
The last time I was actually the person who emailed The Hun a few times to explain the new linking codes, now I hope someone else will do that.
I did it too
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:23 PM   #10
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I'll double check that ARS linking codes are cool with The Hun and keep you posted.
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:25 PM   #11
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is ars doing any geo targeting or the like?

might be why
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is ars doing any geo targeting or the like?

might be why

Indeed.
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add a c=free and ars 4real links are console free

Or choose your own exit c=whatever.com

Its up to the wm to filter international traffic upon the click of link code. Nothing is forced upon it.
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:57 PM   #14
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add a c=free and ars 4real links are console free

Or choose your own exit c=whatever.com

Its up to the wm to filter international traffic upon the click of link code. Nothing is forced upon it.
but the default links end with "c=" and I thought they were also console free
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is also console free


I would use c=free just good measure.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:00 PM   #16
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:27 PM   #17
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we figured the same thing... c=free was thought to be console free, untill we found out it wasn't always... which is why it got blacklisted. We got auto-installing dialers and such (the ones that don't take 3 times no for an answer) and figured we didn't want to link to that...
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:36 PM   #18
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:41 PM   #19
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we figured the same thing... c=free was thought to be console free, untill we found out it wasn't always... which is why it got blacklisted. We got auto-installing dialers and such (the ones that don't take 3 times no for an answer) and figured we didn't want to link to that...
Perhaps that webmaster was filtering their international traffic. I don't think that should force your hand to ban all ARS 4 Real galleries. Just don't post that gallery! By default ARS 4 Real linking codes have zero consoles and zero dialers. Its all in the control of each account whether they push a dialer or a console (and how agressive that console chain is).
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:08 AM   #20
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The link went straight to the program and I got a dialer forced on to me that didn't take no for an answer... if that's an option on ARS I don't want to link to galleries that push it. Redirecting foreign traffic to dialer downloads (without even a decent description on what it really was before I installed it) shot down a lot of dialers lately...
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:18 AM   #21
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owned.
True.
If that doesn't get solved, then you don't have to design the two galleries for ARS sites for me.
If I don't have a chance to get listed on The Hun that it is not worth making ARS galleries at all ( at least for me ).
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:20 AM   #22
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any news here? still banned?
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any news here? still banned?
Still working on it cosis.

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I tested one line, http://www.ars4real.com/re.php?s=CGB...b=&cen=&c=free

It is supposed to be console free (c=free), I got redirected to http://www.premiumratedcontent.com/a...%3A3578377156, which made itself full screen (very annoying on a 1920*1200 screen, I am very capable of clicking the maximize button myself if I want to view sites in full screen) and got a download popup for http://www.thepaymentcentre.com/build/preload2.cab, distributed by Holistyc Limited. No information is provided on what the download is. I bet it's a dialer. But it doesn't say it is anywhere...

Anyway, I click 'no'. I get a popup saying "You must click <YES> to access the site."... What utter BS. I clicked 'NO', I don't want it... Anyway, I click "ok" and get the same dialer download popup again. Again I click 'no'.

Surprise, surprise! "You must click <YES> to access the site" on my screen again. What part of "no" doesn't this piece of scripting understand??

I get the dialer popup again and again I click no and again do I get the message "You must click <YES> to access"... All this time I can't navigate the site or click 'back'... the popups force me to stick with clicking "NO" 4 times in a row now...

Finally I get a different message after clicking 'NO': "You did not click <YES> (Oh, so the script DOES know there are other options). In order to access the site, you must install this software. Do you want to install the software now?". Duh! Off course not... So I click "Cancel". THE FUCKING THING THEN STARTS DOWNLOADING VIEWER.EXE... HELLOOOHOOO!!!! I CLICKED "Cancel"!!!

Anyway, I do not want to download viewer.exe from www.thepaymentcentre.com, so I click cancel. I finally have control of the browser so I can look at it's content. ALL content on there links to the program download, which by now is no surprise anymore, but the thumbs make it look like they're linked to content, not to dialers... Anyway, since I have control back over my dialer I click 'back'...

By now I'm getting annoyed, a popup comes up. http://www.wsluts.com/exit.html. So, another console on a console-free tour... That site pops up a download message. Do I want to install http://www.thepaymentcentre.com/build.preload2.cab disctributed by Holistyc Limited... You guessed it by now, I have to click "No" 4 times in order to make this go away. Again this version tries to download VIEWER.EXE at the time I clicked "Cancel" for the 4th time. This program definately does not know the meaning of the word 'cancel'. The page that I now have control over has the same blind thumbs to the dialer. Anyway, I know how to close hahahahahahas, so I do so

Now I'm being surprised again with a console... This time it asks me if I want to download and install "Hot Adult Download! Click YES below" (these fuckers picked a name to hide they're installing a piece of software) distributed by "live video". I click "no". This software DOES take "no" for an anwer. The dialog closes and stays closed...

I close the full-screen console I'm looking at and get yet another console: http://www.formatureaudiencesonly.co...ge=10&feed=I&. This one doesn't try to install anything, but still I an surprised about a console on a link from ARS4REAL that specifically states "c=free"... Anyway, I close the hahahahahaha.

Another console... http://live.sex-explorer.com/?login=118249. This asks me: Do you want to install "This software ? Acceptance of this certifcate means that you have read and accepted the terms and conditions reachable through that link. " and hahahahahahaha? Distributed by "Electronic-group"... that's NoCreditcard, right?

Clicking "no" isn't enough... I got the download prompt a couple of times... Closing the hahahahahaha in between download popups seems to be the solution...

I lost count, but another console pops up: http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n...bil ling_id=. By now I really had enough... Or should this all make me grab my creditcard... ??


Here a list of consoles that popped up after closing the last one: http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n...d_billing_id=, http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n... _billing_id=, http://www.smstemptation.com/promos/...untry=NL&dlb=1

And then I was susprised... I didn't get a console... I though I wouldn't get one at all, but I was thrown through so many loops. I had to click "No" to a dialer download at least 18 times. This stuff will get dialers banned. In Spain they already are illegal. No susprise looking at what I just went through...

It does mean that ARS4real is still blacklisted. I can in no way see the above story as good for the business we're all working in. People don't mind paying for something, but if they're annoyed out of their money in the end we'll all loose...
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Old 04-09-2004, 04:31 AM   #26
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Maximizing traffic is one thing, but putting a surfer through hell is another. No companies should trap surfers from any country. I think a lot of programs fail to think about the surfers, and that's what gives our biz a bad name. Not only is our content questionable, but we want to push every surfer to spend money no matter what. This isn;t a good practice, and it needs to be stopped.

Good for you Hun. Until that shit gets cleaned up, there's no reason to list them. Somehahahaha has to stand their ground.
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I tested one line, http://www.ars4real.com/re.php?s=CGB...b=&cen=&c=free

It is supposed to be console free (c=free), I got redirected to http://www.premiumratedcontent.com/a...%3A3578377156, which made itself full screen (very annoying on a 1920*1200 screen, I am very capable of clicking the maximize button myself if I want to view sites in full screen) and got a download popup for http://www.thepaymentcentre.com/build/preload2.cab, distributed by Holistyc Limited. No information is provided on what the download is. I bet it's a dialer. But it doesn't say it is anywhere...

Anyway, I click 'no'. I get a popup saying "You must click <YES> to access the site."... What utter BS. I clicked 'NO', I don't want it... Anyway, I click "ok" and get the same dialer download popup again. Again I click 'no'.

Surprise, surprise! "You must click <YES> to access the site" on my screen again. What part of "no" doesn't this piece of scripting understand??

I get the dialer popup again and again I click no and again do I get the message "You must click <YES> to access"... All this time I can't navigate the site or click 'back'... the popups force me to stick with clicking "NO" 4 times in a row now...

Finally I get a different message after clicking 'NO': "You did not click <YES> (Oh, so the script DOES know there are other options). In order to access the site, you must install this software. Do you want to install the software now?". Duh! Off course not... So I click "Cancel". THE FUCKING THING THEN STARTS DOWNLOADING VIEWER.EXE... HELLOOOHOOO!!!! I CLICKED "Cancel"!!!

Anyway, I do not want to download viewer.exe from www.thepaymentcentre.com, so I click cancel. I finally have control of the browser so I can look at it's content. ALL content on there links to the program download, which by now is no surprise anymore, but the thumbs make it look like they're linked to content, not to dialers... Anyway, since I have control back over my dialer I click 'back'...

By now I'm getting annoyed, a popup comes up. http://www.wsluts.com/exit.html. So, another console on a console-free tour... That site pops up a download message. Do I want to install http://www.thepaymentcentre.com/build.preload2.cab disctributed by Holistyc Limited... You guessed it by now, I have to click "No" 4 times in order to make this go away. Again this version tries to download VIEWER.EXE at the time I clicked "Cancel" for the 4th time. This program definately does not know the meaning of the word 'cancel'. The page that I now have control over has the same blind thumbs to the dialer. Anyway, I know how to close hahahahahahas, so I do so

Now I'm being surprised again with a console... This time it asks me if I want to download and install "Hot Adult Download! Click YES below" (these fuckers picked a name to hide they're installing a piece of software) distributed by "live video". I click "no". This software DOES take "no" for an anwer. The dialog closes and stays closed...

I close the full-screen console I'm looking at and get yet another console: http://www.formatureaudiencesonly.co...ge=10&feed=I&. This one doesn't try to install anything, but still I an surprised about a console on a link from ARS4REAL that specifically states "c=free"... Anyway, I close the hahahahahaha.

Another console... http://live.sex-explorer.com/?login=118249. This asks me: Do you want to install "This software ? Acceptance of this certifcate means that you have read and accepted the terms and conditions reachable through that link. " and hahahahahahaha? Distributed by "Electronic-group"... that's NoCreditcard, right?

Clicking "no" isn't enough... I got the download prompt a couple of times... Closing the hahahahahaha in between download popups seems to be the solution...

I lost count, but another console pops up: http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n...bil ling_id=. By now I really had enough... Or should this all make me grab my creditcard... ??


Here a list of consoles that popped up after closing the last one: http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n...d_billing_id=, http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n... _billing_id=, http://www.smstemptation.com/promos/...untry=NL&dlb=1

And then I was susprised... I didn't get a console... I though I wouldn't get one at all, but I was thrown through so many loops. I had to click "No" to a dialer download at least 18 times. This stuff will get dialers banned. In Spain they already are illegal. No susprise looking at what I just went through...

It does mean that ARS4real is still blacklisted. I can in no way see the above story as good for the business we're all working in. People don't mind paying for something, but if they're annoyed out of their money in the end we'll all loose...
I just came back from the dentist and see this thread on top again...
Anyway, 10 days ago I got listed with a ARS 4 Real gallery and IT WAS console free.
The problem is that there is an option that ARS webmaster can turn on filtering their "foreign traffic" and in that case, ALL non US / Canada traffic will be redirected to the dialer instead of ARS sites.
I thought that this was already told to you by the ARS guys.
But the fact that such option does exist, does not mean that it is always like that. The links do not lead to the dialer by default. it is the webmaster who decided to make use of that option.
I have also made use of it in the past, but NOT on the ARS account I am using for posting galleries.
IMO when there is a webmaster who choses that option on galleries, then he is stupid and he deserves to be blacklisted and not the program which only enables such option, but does not have set it by default.
This is just my opinion.
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I just came back from the dentist and see this thread on top again...
Anyway, 10 days ago I got listed with a ARS 4 Real gallery and IT WAS console free.
The problem is that there is an option that ARS webmaster can turn on filtering their "foreign traffic" and in that case, ALL non US / Canada traffic will be redirected to the dialer instead of ARS sites.
I thought that this was already told to you by the ARS guys.
But the fact that such option does exist, does not mean that it is always like that. The links do not lead to the dialer by default. it is the webmaster who decided to make use of that option.
I have also made use of it in the past, but NOT on the ARS account I am using for posting galleries.
IMO when there is a webmaster who choses that option on galleries, then he is stupid and he deserves to be blacklisted and not the program which only enables such option, but does not have set it by default.
This is just my opinion.
Yeah I'd say go after the webmaster rather than the sponsor especially if it's not enabled by default, but that does sound like quite a lot of hassle for the TGP site...<br><br>
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Yeah I'd say go after the webmaster rather than the sponsor especially if it's not enabled by default, but that does sound like quite a lot of hassle for the TGP site...<br><br>
Perhaps you are right and I understand the TGP owners too ( in this case The Hun ).
Just wanted to make the situation with ARS dialer clear to him.
Not sure if he saw it though since for some reason he started his own thread about the exactly same subject.
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