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Old 04-21-2004, 12:13 AM   #1
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Young Webmasters and an Unhealthy View of Women

I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry. Women aren't content; they are people. You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.

This goes along with the recent discussion of raising the legal age to model in porn. I have no issues of raising all requirements to 21: driving, soldiering, alcohol, smokes, porn, everything.

Lastly, Oracle Porn. If I ever hear from any lady from our poker tournaments that you have disrespected any of them at the table, you will answer to me.

I will also request Adult Poker Tour to ban you from any future events for violating their terms of service.
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:16 AM   #2
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This Oracle Porn guy seems to get a lot more attention than he deserves
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:21 AM   #5
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This Oracle Porn guy seems to get a lot more attention than he deserves
He is a typical fat pasty white 19 year old looking for acceptance so badly that he feels the need to insult those around him for street credibility. It is a classic psych stereotype.
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry.

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Chicks getting fish hooked left and right, double anal in 18 year olds asses, the wholesale trade in female flesh. How DOES this foster a good view on these types of women?


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Women aren't content; they are people.

Yeah, they are people. So are Police. So are bums you see in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver. ( The highest urban concentration of HIV and AIDS infected people in the Americas )


Perhaps they are not the type of people I, or others, would choose to associate with on a daily basis. Police officers have to work with bums / criminals every day. It doesn't mean they like the job, but dealing with those people are an every day affair.

I see it the same way. I wouldn't want to be married to a content girl. I wouldn't wanna be her dad. I would find it hard to be her friend. It's just a different lifestyle / set of morals. Where I have no problem making money off content people, I could never be one myself, nor could I date one.


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You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.

I'm not speaking for Oracle Porn, but I personally have a wonderful girlfriend and I don't find it hard to speak to / attract women.

Where some people in this industry choose to insult their very livelyhood, I believe everyone has a role to play in the world. If someone chooses to become content, I won't dislike the person for it as a human, but I don't know if I would be their friend. Same with a Police officer, or a bum in the alley.
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He is a typical fat pasty white 19 year old looking for acceptance so badly that he feels the need to insult those around him for street credibility. It is a classic psych stereotype.

How do you know?


Maybe he just likes to piss people off. Maybe you should post his picture or some facts about the guy?


I'm not defending him, either. I think he gobbles penis for lunch.
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I am under 24 and I don't have that view at all. You are confusing us with fat fucks who site behind a computer screen all day and demand that everything without a dick show its tits. They never get out, the become antisocial in general and towards women. That is the problem.
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I am under 24 and I don't have that view at all. You are confusing us with fat fucks who site behind a computer screen all day and demand that everything without a dick show its tits. They never get out, the become antisocial in general and towards women. That is the problem.

Yeah, those are the guys we get out porn $ from. Don't slam the wallet that feeds you. I wish every guy sat at home, thought all women were whores, had visas, and would never charge back.
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry. Women aren't content; they are people. You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.
I strongly disagree. I'm 24 and I tend to believe I have the upmost respect for women, especially in this type of industry. While a lot of people might act immaturely at my age, I strongly believe the respect (or lack thereof) for women has to do with how you were raised and not directly dependent of age.

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Yeah, those are the guys we get out porn $ from. Don't slam the wallet that feeds you. I wish every guy sat at home, thought all women were whores, had visas, and would never charge back.
Wouldn't that be a wonderful world

On topic. Not all guys that are below 24 (why the 24 age? Is there a little switch in everybody's head that switches over at the age of 24, and all of a sudden makes you think different about women?) see women as whores and disrespect them. I think you're being too general here..
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I strongly believe the respect (or lack thereof) for women has to do with how you were raised and not directly dependent of age.

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Hmmm...


If I told you I couldn't bring myself to date a girl that would do content, could you tell me how I was raised?
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If I told you I couldn't bring myself to date a girl that would do content, could you tell me how I was raised?
Very well in my opinion. I wouldn't want my girl doing something like this.
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Very well in my opinion. I wouldn't want my girl doing something like this.

I wouldn't want my daughter / mom / grandma / girlfriend / gay uncle doing content.

I don't even like my job. I feel pretty shitty sometimes when a chick is doing a nasty anal creampie scene with some closeups and stuff. Some of the slap happy stuff is just disgusting too.

I don't really like porn at all. I find it to be pretty novel. "Yeah I run adult websites" usually becomes the talk of the party / wedding / funeral / batmitzfa / liquor store / stuck elevator.

I like the money, and the hours. I like some of the other webmasters to be carefree and fun loving like myself. That end of the business keeps me going.
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Wouldn't that be a wonderful world

On topic. Not all guys that are below 24 (why the 24 age? Is there a little switch in everybody's head that switches over at the age of 24, and all of a sudden makes you think different about women?) see women as whores and disrespect them. I think you're being too general here..
..I think he is generalizing when he says age 24. People born in 1979 are technically the end of Generation-X. Where as 1980+ signifies "Generation-Why". I dont think he meant to single out EVERYONE under 25...just a generalization for the "internet generation".
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Very well in my opinion. I wouldn't want my girl doing something like this.
I totally agree...when I see some of my friends trying to get their girlfriends to do a website, I cant understand it. My girl told me she was thinking about it, and I did everything I could to stop her (and thankfully it did).
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry. Women aren't content; they are people. You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.

This goes along with the recent discussion of raising the legal age to model in porn. I have no issues of raising all requirements to 21: driving, soldiering, alcohol, smokes, porn, everything.

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My thoughts exactly.. and lots of us are not content eiven.

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Have you guys been around a lot of porn shoots? If you have been, it's common to have an unhealthy view on women. You start losing a lot of faith in women. You start thinking that "regular" women are all like the girls that perform.
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Have you guys been around a lot of porn shoots? If you have been, it's common to have an unhealthy view on women. You start losing a lot of faith in women. You start thinking that "regular" women are all like the girls that perform.

I filmed porn in Costa Rica for our website, www.thirdworldwhores.com, when I was very new to this business. Can you tell?


Yeah, it's a little shocking when women can go from being so bitchy and quiet before a shoot to being completely "horny" and moaning so fast. As soon as the money is in their hands and the stunt cock comes out, they are just in game mode and on. After the filming they are back to plucking their eyebrows at the dinner table and calling home to find out if their babies are ok. ( Don't ask )

A couple girls we turned down because they wanted to leave their children in the other room.
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This goes along with the recent discussion of raising the legal age to model in porn. I have no issues of raising all requirements to 21: driving, soldiering, alcohol, smokes, porn, everything.
Raising the legal limit to 21? Did you forget what it is to be young? At 18 most people are on there own making their way through life.

How do I put this... If I can own property than I expect to be able to look at porn and drive my own car around just like every other young person out there.
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You lmow it Giorgio... Plenty of them well over 24 act the same way. But the higher percentage does seem to be in the lower age bracket. What use to be known as the 'temporary' license age. The law looked on (mostly the males) under 25, as prone to misbehavior. Go figure.

Some of the guys here have a clue like WG.

Upside is, the odds of these clowns reproducing is extremely low!

Huggles, you are borderline 'justifying'. Just as a cop has to show total respect to the bum in the street that he HAS to deal with, these idiots should learn to treat the very means they make their Happy Meal monies a d*mned sight better.

Go figure that Opie is showing his *ss again. Some just never get it... Maybe one of these days a girl 5' and 80 lbs will give him his comeuppance and he'll learn a valuable life lesson. Elsewise, he'll be the 2020 version of the professional soldier we have in our midst.
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Huggles, you are borderline 'justifying'. Just as a cop has to show total respect to the bum in the street that he HAS to deal with, these idiots should learn to treat the very means they make their Happy Meal monies a d*mned sight better.

I don't know about that. I sorta see it as business. I try and treat everything I do in this business as that, business.

Except at conferences. I'm an open bar visiting, 60 oz spilling, in my bathtub puking, drunken bastard.
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry.
This seems very sterotypical seeing as I am 100% straight, aged 20. Yet 80% of my business comes from gay porn.

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This is probably to do with the fact most of them are geeks and have no macking skills

My last relationship went for over 2.5years.. that serious enough?


Anyways, all the same, I dont believe in disrespecting females, its no more right than saying all men are jerks and just think with their dicks
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"Good Business" would be treating the means TO that business with respect? non?

C'mon, you are almost there... just a lil further... see the light? Go TO the light Huggles...
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I know some dudes that are over 24 that are pervs too. Is 24 your magic fuckin number? Just cause some kid wants to treat a lady like a ho and a ho like a lady does that mean he is a bad guy? Some girls like being cock puppets too... are they bad people?
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"Good Business" would be treating the means TO that business with respect? non?

C'mon, you are almost there... just a lil further... see the light? Go TO the light Huggles...


Saying I wouldn't want a content girl in my family, or as my girlfriend, isn't disrespect.
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What I was aiming at Huggles was: the clowns will grab on to your words to justify their treatment of anyone doing content...

Oh! Except the male stars of course... THOSE guys are the bomb to someone like Opie. ;-)

Not wanting a content girl in your family is one thing... not insisting on others to treat them with total respect is another. These boys take constant positive reinforcement or they get full of themselves with the day they make 2 sales. lol
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry. Women aren't content; they are people. You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.

This goes along with the recent discussion of raising the legal age to model in porn. I have no issues of raising all requirements to 21: driving, soldiering, alcohol, smokes, porn, everything.

Lastly, Oracle Porn. If I ever hear from any lady from our poker tournaments that you have disrespected any of them at the table, you will answer to me.

I will also request Adult Poker Tour to ban you from any future events for violating their terms of service.
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry. Women aren't content; they are people. You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.

I totaly agree on that, but I don't think it has something to do with age. Some people just don't realize how rude it is to call someone content or a stupid ho ect just because they are models. It's very stupid as well, cause without the 'content' they bring down so much they would not be making any money.

And women are getting stronger in this bizz as well. Just remember that when you call a model something nasty, a webmistress can see it, and women don't like it when guys tread other women that way.

Don't tread other people in a way you would not want to be treated yourself.


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Yeah, lets respect women who fuck any guy for a couple of hundred bucks...They're no better than a hooker and in some cases they're even worse than a hooker.

Does this mean we should respect some slut who can take two cocks in her ass at the same time more than a slut who can take only one cock in her ass?

Should we respect a girl who will take a cock from her asshole and start sucking on more than a girl who doesnt?

Should we respect a girl who will fuck 10 guys in one shoot more than a girl who fucks only her boyfriend?
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Yeah, lets respect women who fuck any guy for a couple of hundred bucks...They're no better than a hooker and in some cases they're even worse than a hooker.

Does this mean we should respect some slut who can take two cocks in her ass at the same time more than a slut who can take only one cock in her ass?

Should we respect a girl who will take a cock from her asshole and start sucking on more than a girl who doesnt?

Should we respect a girl who will fuck 10 guys in one shoot more than a girl who fucks only her boyfriend?
Dont get me wrong here, i give models respect but hardly the kind of respect i would give a girl working a normal 9-5 job, or a female bankl manager, or a female sales agent, or a female ... you get the idea..

Even working at McDonalds is more challanging than spreading your legs so someone can fuck you
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BTW, I am in a relationship with a girl and have been in this relationship now for just under 3 years.

I would think the same thing about her, my mother, and any other family member if they started to do porn shoots
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Yeah, lets respect women who fuck any guy for a couple of hundred bucks...They're no better than a hooker and in some cases they're even worse than a hooker.

Does this mean we should respect some slut who can take two cocks in her ass at the same time more than a slut who can take only one cock in her ass?

Should we respect a girl who will take a cock from her asshole and start sucking on more than a girl who doesnt?

Should we respect a girl who will fuck 10 guys in one shoot more than a girl who fucks only her boyfriend?
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i'm 23 but georgio is right lots of us younger blokes need to respect the ladies...
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i'm 23 but georgio is right lots of us younger blokes need to respect the ladies...

yeh your right, the more dicks they can suck in one day the more i respect them.

like ladymischief i respect her for her double anal and 3 dick in mouth tricks.
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Pussies! If your girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband etc want to partake infont of the camera, well its none of your business. One of the few rights left is that we can and should do what we want with our own body.
As for the objectification of women, look no further than the mirror. During those formative years of teendom, the only images of women, come from porn. Photoshoots with hair and makeup, nice lighting and props. It's not surprising that guys are so disapointed when they see the real thing on the beach...you know with naturally flat breasts and cellulite. What we produce is some of the strongest and false advertising known, because it directly appeals to the most basic of instinsts. And it so cool!
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Pussies! If your girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband etc want to partake infont of the camera, well its none of your business. One of the few rights left is that we can and should do what we want with our own body.
they would be finished you degenerate
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I strongly disagree. I'm 24 and I tend to believe I have the upmost respect for women, especially in this type of industry. While a lot of people might act immaturely at my age, I strongly believe the respect (or lack thereof) for women has to do with how you were raised and not directly dependent of age.

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Agree with Charles. It's all based on a person's upbringing that partly includes their education and past experiences.

Also, I'm turning 21 on the 28th of this month and I'm more mature than most others my age, and older. There are different areas to be mature / immature in of course.

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Pussies! If your girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband etc want to partake infont of the camera, well its none of your business.
One of the few rights left is that we can and should do what we want with our own body.

Yes, you're right. BUT if my gf started to do porn you can bet your bottom dollar i would dump the slut (as it stands now she isnt one). That is my choice. With each choice you make you change the outcome of your life.


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As for the objectification of women, look no further than the mirror. During those formative years of teendom, the only images of women, come from porn.
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Lay off the smack...First images of women would come from TV, magazines and other non-adult material. Sure you have the kids who steal daddy's pornos but that is to be expected and doesnt directly reflect the population such as you're suggesting.

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Photoshoots with hair and makeup, nice lighting and props. It's not surprising that guys are so disapointed when they see the real thing on the beach...you know with naturally flat breasts and cellulite. What we produce is some of the strongest and false advertising known, because it directly appeals to the most basic of instinsts. And it so cool! [/B]
Blah blah blah... Mainstream has been doing this sine the begining and it isnt just confined to adult.

I fail to see any logic in anything you've posted here.
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99% of humans are whores. It's human nature.

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So you have no problem raising the age to 21 for everything?

You telling me an 18 years old boy volunteering for the military is smarter than an 18 year old girl volunteering for porn

Both sexes think thats kewl

Where is the difference?
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99% of humans are whores. It's human nature.

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How about the girls that do solo shoots? I think if the girls has a beautiful body and doesn't mind showing it then she can. I don't think of "solo content" girls as whores at all. And the age raising thing is outrageous. Younger people are limited as it is, now you want to raise the age on more things?
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I truly believe that most of the younger webmasters (24 and under) develop a completely unrealistic and unhealthy view of women because of the objectification that goes on in this industry. Women aren't content; they are people. You only need to spend a few minutes to see that alot of these kids couldn't hold down a healthy relationship or even get a phone number from a real lady.

This goes along with the recent discussion of raising the legal age to model in porn. I have no issues of raising all requirements to 21: driving, soldiering, alcohol, smokes, porn, everything.

Lastly, Oracle Porn. If I ever hear from any lady from our poker tournaments that you have disrespected any of them at the table, you will answer to me.

I will also request Adult Poker Tour to ban you from any future events for violating their terms of service.
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Yeah, lets respect women who fuck any guy for a couple of hundred bucks...They're no better than a hooker and in some cases they're even worse than a hooker.

Does this mean we should respect some slut who can take two cocks in her ass at the same time more than a slut who can take only one cock in her ass?

Should we respect a girl who will take a cock from her asshole and start sucking on more than a girl who doesnt?

Should we respect a girl who will fuck 10 guys in one shoot more than a girl who fucks only her boyfriend?

Damn right you should, because it's their bodies and you are making money of it as well. These so called ' sluts' are the people who put the bread on your table.

And not all 'content' fucks with 10 guys and gets analed by 2 dicks. I'm someone who you would call content but I have never been fucked by more then 1 guy and what if I did.!!! You have no right calling me or anyone else a ho or a slut. Final!!

I'm not calling you a dirty bastard for being in porn either am I?

And I don't hear anything about maleactors being whores. O yeah that's right if a guy fucks 10 different girls on one night he's a real man in your eyes.....


Your post is the biggest BS I've ever seen on this board....






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What I was aiming at Huggles was: the clowns will grab on to your words to justify their treatment of anyone doing content...

Oh! Except the male stars of course... THOSE guys are the bomb to someone like Opie. ;-)

Not wanting a content girl in your family is one thing... not insisting on others to treat them with total respect is another. These boys take constant positive reinforcement or they get full of themselves with the day they make 2 sales. lol

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