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RedShoe · 05-28-2004, 12:27 PM

well? Do you? What are the pros and cons?

Kimmykim · 05-28-2004, 12:28 PM

Two of my consulting clients do on a large scale.

Pros are pretty obvious, the end user only gets what he pays for.

Cons are fairly non-existent as I see it.

Scherfi · 05-28-2004, 12:31 PM

whats DRM? please elaborate.

mountainmiester · 05-28-2004, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scherfi
whats DRM? please elaborate.

DRM or Digital Rights Management is a system that allows you to digitally lock down your content and assign rights to control the use of that content to those you specifiy.

It is quickly gaining market share as a new method of selling content other than membership sites and it has been very profitable to many webmasters.

See: www.drmnetworks.com for more information.

mattyboy · 05-28-2004, 01:51 PM

One of our site uses it OneManBanned.tv

Pros:
Surfers can download full scenes at high quality - no joining files needed.

They can "buy" individual scenes or buy a monthly membership.

Our content is protected and if they end up on Kazza, then its a bonus for us

Member retention is good as the files will only play while the surfer is an "active" member.

Theres also a shit load of rules you can set of how you want your set up to work.

We are hopefully soon going to add all the movies from our network into a new PPV site. The surfer then can choose what he/she wants to view. If they like a certain niche, they may join the members site already running. Think of it as a "try before you buy a full membership". (IE: the surfer can buy and download a few films of there choice for a few Dollars before commiting to a monthly membership. In doing this we get more revenue).

Cons:
Having a site using the token model and a normal monthly membership means encoding the the same file twice and uploading twice.

The files don't work on Macs.

Some surfers don't like DRM, but hey, it works for us

Lensman · 05-28-2004, 01:55 PM

Yes, it's a must if you have your own content on a members server. No more stolen content, and if the shit get's passed around, we make sales from it.

And it's super easy to do.

It does work on macs, but it requires slightly different steps.

Email me if you need the software.

Keev · 05-28-2004, 02:11 PM

Very interested lensman check ur email

AaronM · 05-28-2004, 02:14 PM

DRM is the shit. If you have a paysite with video and you are not using it then you are losing money.

OY · 05-28-2004, 02:24 PM

For Your Members Area
Members Area content, when offered on a downloadable basis has benefits including the ability to allow members to "take the content with them." It offers a consistent and available value to the end user and you retain total control. This allows at the very least, the ability to turn theft into a marketing opportunity.

DRM as a Marketing Tool
If you think of individually secured (DRM'd) content as little URL's the business models really get exciting. No matter where the content goes, you have the ability to talk to the end user in real time and move them anywhere you wish. This could include taking them back to your site, an up sell or you could use the traffic for trades.

DRM for Pay Per View
Take the top videos from your member's area and offer them to end users on a per play basis. Offer users the option to purchase blocks of time (token system) or pay a flat fee to watch the movie as many times as you decide using any whichever process you wish that being IBill, Web900, SMS, Paypal, etc. Place the trailers for these movies on a console. After the user watches the trailer they can be prompted to buy the whole move. If their transaction is approved, then they can download and watch the whole movie. This will save you on those who just want to try it out and not pay. You can tease them with a trailer and only burn bulk bandwidth on paid videos. Place this console as your last exit and see what happens!

http://playadrm.com/Site_Demos.asp

PS. PlayaDRM was made for webmasters by webmasters

OY · 05-28-2004, 04:27 PM

Check out the demo yet?

Scherfi · 05-28-2004, 04:36 PM

sounds intersting. do you use wmv or some other format for it?

Sammy4u · 05-28-2004, 04:44 PM

We are currently in the process of getting all of our movie files protected by DRM right now. I see no real downside to it. I know some members will complain that they paid to have my movies but I think that is crap. They always try to use the magazine comparison. When they buy a magazine they get it forever, so they should have my content forever. I disagree. When they buy a magazine do they get all the back issues? When they join my site they do. So it really works out fair as the way I see it.

OY · 05-28-2004, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scherfi
sounds intersting. do you use wmv or some other format for it?

Windows Media is the way to go. 95% of the worlds PC population get this player bundled into their OS and that is where the majority of the PLAY is going to happen - now and into the future.

OY · 05-28-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sammy4u
We are currently in the process of getting all of our movie files protected by DRM right now. I see no real downside to it. I know some members will complain that they paid to have my movies but I think that is crap. They always try to use the magazine comparison. When they buy a magazine they get it forever, so they should have my content forever. I disagree. When they buy a magazine do they get all the back issues? When they join my site they do. So it really works out fair as the way I see it.

It is a win win win for the paysite/content owner for sure. FREE traffic when it comes back!

B - if this is you... looking good so far

mmaisonet · 05-29-2004, 01:08 AM

We see DRM as a win win for all webmasters. Bottom line is, it's time to stop losing money. the great part is that you dont need to do licenses for 30 days, you can do them for longer. You can just use DRM to make sure that multiple people dont license the same content hence causing you to loose money by preventing "sharing" of access. There are those people out their that believe DRM causes more problems than it's worth. Every new technology that you use can and will cause problems. That doesn't mean that you dont pursue technology that could improve your revenue streams. the point that most people seem to be loosing sight of is that just because one particular site failed to leverage the technology to their advantage, they will fail with it too. Factor in your business process, do it in stages or have a test run and you will do well with DRM as with anything else.

anyone with questions about DRM, please hit me up on ICQ or visit out website. Sammy4u I would love to speak with you regarding DRM. Please hit me up on ICQ.

OY · 05-29-2004, 02:47 PM

Important thing is that you can build use DRM for almost ANY business model with the right solution. Dont lock in to a solution where you are bound by the DRM companys rules. Because that is a waste...

PS. Don't settle for providers with no real life experience; over 30 Million served!

PPS. PlayaDRM

Pornwolf · 05-29-2004, 03:22 PM

I just had a thought, if Bangbus had DRM on thier videos when they got started they'd be billionaires!

OY · 05-29-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I just had a thought, if Bangbus had DRM on thier videos when they got started they'd be billionaires!

YES THEY WOULD!

http://www.playadrm.com/Site_Demos.asp

See how they would have done it!

DRM Systems · 05-29-2004, 04:19 PM

Their is a lack of understanding of DRM within our very own industry. But it is obvious that protecting content is a very big issue nowadays. So, the question remains. How long will you keep losing money?

If anyone would like more information about our DRM solution, please drop us a line at [email protected]

DRM Systems · 05-29-2004, 04:29 PM

Just as an added note to the above mentioned, you can reach us via icq at 339126796.

You will find our staff to be quite knowledable with over 4 years of DRM experience.

Gottis · 06-28-2004, 11:26 AM

bumping this hot thread

How do I make DRM work with Macs? What's Lensman's email (he asked to be contacted for help with that)?

webair · 06-28-2004, 11:36 AM

WebairDRM.com will be live in a couple of days hit me up we'll get you set up now if necessary.

For more info please visit:
WebairDRM.com

or contact me for more info

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OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	For Your Members Area Members Area content, when offered on a downloadable basis has benefits including the ability to allow members to "take the content with them." It offers a consistent and available value to the end user and you retain total control. This allows at the very least, the ability to turn theft into a marketing opportunity. DRM as a Marketing Tool If you think of individually secured (DRM'd) content as little URL's the business models really get exciting. No matter where the content goes, you have the ability to talk to the end user in real time and move them anywhere you wish. This could include taking them back to your site, an up sell or you could use the traffic for trades. DRM for Pay Per View Take the top videos from your member's area and offer them to end users on a per play basis. Offer users the option to purchase blocks of time (token system) or pay a flat fee to watch the movie as many times as you decide using any whichever process you wish that being IBill, Web900, SMS, Paypal, etc. Place the trailers for these movies on a console. After the user watches the trailer they can be prompted to buy the whole move. If their transaction is approved, then they can download and watch the whole movie. This will save you on those who just want to try it out and not pay. You can tease them with a trailer and only burn bulk bandwidth on paid videos. Place this console as your last exit and see what happens! http://playadrm.com/Site_Demos.asp PS. PlayaDRM was made for webmasters by webmasters __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

05-28-2004, 04:27 PM	#10
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05-28-2004, 12:28 PM	#2
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Two of my consulting clients do on a large scale. Pros are pretty obvious, the end user only gets what he pays for. Cons are fairly non-existent as I see it.

05-28-2004, 01:51 PM	#5
mattyboy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,070	One of our site uses it OneManBanned.tv Pros: Surfers can download full scenes at high quality - no joining files needed. They can "buy" individual scenes or buy a monthly membership. Our content is protected and if they end up on Kazza, then its a bonus for us Member retention is good as the files will only play while the surfer is an "active" member. Theres also a shit load of rules you can set of how you want your set up to work. We are hopefully soon going to add all the movies from our network into a new PPV site. The surfer then can choose what he/she wants to view. If they like a certain niche, they may join the members site already running. Think of it as a "try before you buy a full membership". (IE: the surfer can buy and download a few films of there choice for a few Dollars before commiting to a monthly membership. In doing this we get more revenue). Cons: Having a site using the token model and a normal monthly membership means encoding the the same file twice and uploading twice. The files don't work on Macs. Some surfers don't like DRM, but hey, it works for us

05-28-2004, 01:55 PM	#6
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Yes, it's a must if you have your own content on a members server. No more stolen content, and if the shit get's passed around, we make sales from it. And it's super easy to do. It does work on macs, but it requires slightly different steps. Email me if you need the software.

05-28-2004, 02:14 PM	#8
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	DRM is the shit. If you have a paysite with video and you are not using it then you are losing money.

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Scherfi Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PornStudio Posts: 868	sounds intersting. do you use wmv or some other format for it? __________________ http://www.fastthumber.com

05-28-2004, 04:44 PM	#12
Sammy4u Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SAMMYSMACK.com Posts: 1,844	We are currently in the process of getting all of our movie files protected by DRM right now. I see no real downside to it. I know some members will complain that they paid to have my movies but I think that is crap. They always try to use the magazine comparison. When they buy a magazine they get it forever, so they should have my content forever. I disagree. When they buy a magazine do they get all the back issues? When they join my site they do. So it really works out fair as the way I see it. __________________ Sammy4u.com Winner - Best Individual Performer Site! POTD blog plug in \| GeoIP & Custom Text Fansigns Hosted Blog, POTD, TGP, MGP, and Freesites

05-29-2004, 01:08 AM	#15
mmaisonet Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 252	We see DRM as a win win for all webmasters. Bottom line is, it's time to stop losing money. the great part is that you dont need to do licenses for 30 days, you can do them for longer. You can just use DRM to make sure that multiple people dont license the same content hence causing you to loose money by preventing "sharing" of access. There are those people out their that believe DRM causes more problems than it's worth. Every new technology that you use can and will cause problems. That doesn't mean that you dont pursue technology that could improve your revenue streams. the point that most people seem to be loosing sight of is that just because one particular site failed to leverage the technology to their advantage, they will fail with it too. Factor in your business process, do it in stages or have a test run and you will do well with DRM as with anything else. anyone with questions about DRM, please hit me up on ICQ or visit out website. Sammy4u I would love to speak with you regarding DRM. Please hit me up on ICQ. __________________ The World Is Yours!! INNOVATIVE PAYMENT SOLUTIONS You Need Processing? We Can Help!! Offshore Processing, 3rd Party Processing, Direct Mids http://www.inpaysolutions.com [email protected] Icq 27701318 -(LatinSoulMan )

05-29-2004, 02:47 PM	#16
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Important thing is that you can build use DRM for almost ANY business model with the right solution. Dont lock in to a solution where you are bound by the DRM companys rules. Because that is a waste... PS. Don't settle for providers with no real life experience; over 30 Million served! PPS. PlayaDRM __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

05-29-2004, 03:22 PM	#17
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I just had a thought, if Bangbus had DRM on thier videos when they got started they'd be billionaires! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

05-29-2004, 04:19 PM	#19
DRM Systems Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 37	Their is a lack of understanding of DRM within our very own industry. But it is obvious that protecting content is a very big issue nowadays. So, the question remains. How long will you keep losing money? If anyone would like more information about our DRM solution, please drop us a line at [email protected] __________________ Protect Your Video and Audio Content Today. Stop Losing Money. Ask me how www.drm-systems.com [email protected] 27701318-icq

05-29-2004, 04:29 PM	#20
DRM Systems Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 37	Just as an added note to the above mentioned, you can reach us via icq at 339126796. You will find our staff to be quite knowledable with over 4 years of DRM experience. __________________ Protect Your Video and Audio Content Today. Stop Losing Money. Ask me how www.drm-systems.com [email protected] 27701318-icq

06-28-2004, 11:26 AM	#21
Gottis Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: VIP NO ID Posts: 1,746	bumping this hot thread How do I make DRM work with Macs? What's Lensman's email (he asked to be contacted for help with that)?

06-28-2004, 11:36 AM	#22
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