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Verbal · 07-09-2004, 03:09 PM

No offense Dre, but that's the UGLIEST banner ever!

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:13 PM

Fabuleux · 07-09-2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MediaTickets
MediaTickets sells information about surfing habits of people who's computers we have been installed on.
MediaTickets

That's enough to put you on my shitlist. What about my privacy asshole. It becomes harder every day to remove all spyware from my system.

Fuck you MediaTickets

MediaTickets · 07-09-2004, 03:17 PM

First off Tempest, thank you for providing productive arguments. I understand your concerns and why you may not want to work with a program like ours. I will try my best to respond. However the claims in most of these threads are ridiculous.

a. In order to make that $2000 a day, I bet a lot of your affiliates are tricking the surfer into installing, or even just installing without the surfer getting a chance to say YES or NO.

Answer: In order to get an install without a yes or no we would have to give out an exe. We don?t'; provide this to affiliates. Overall we are extremely aggressive with policing our affiliates and have a full time support staff that deals with any problems affiliates have, or complaints we have from websites. We warn affiliates once and ban them if they repeat an offense.

b. Either you, your company, or your affiliates spam boards like these and post misleading information. One said it was 0.15 a page view and not an install.

Answer: We haven?t even seen a post claiming that people got 15 cents per page view. I don't see how that would be productive for the person saying it, cause it could be proved wrong so easily.

c. Your product is violating the surfer?s right to privacy. i.e. see a above.

Answer: We don?t violate privacy of users anymore than Google tool bar or monster.com. We don?t sell emails etc.

d. the Mediatickets name is already mud and you've made the choice to NOT say what the revenue model is. You get to reap the results. i.e. saying "you can rest assured you don't steal" just won't happen.

Answer: I understand that we have been torn down in these posts. But it should be apparent that people just blurt out these random things with no evidence. Showing that we switch homepages or that we have a toolbar are very basic things that would be easy to prove. That?s what makes some of these claims so ridiculous.

Bottom line, the product itself is what has brought all this about. The product itself is what brings out all the scamming, lying, shady and cheating affiliates. You can say you can't control your affiliate?s blah blah blah... It's the product.

Answer: We won't pull a ?We can?t control the affiliates argument.? But I don't believe we have to. We haven?t even heard a complaint about us switching homepages, or stealing traffic..or stealing sign ups or auto installing etc That is what is so ridiculous about the accusations. I have no idea what these guys are talking about. Toolbars?? stealing traffic and sign ups?? These people are angry about spam the most. I guess this is a form of revenge. The claims are clearly false and anybody who is on GFY should really be offended that people would lie about these things and try to tear down a business. Seriously going out of your way and completely lying is pretty ridiculous.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:19 PM

cherrylula · 07-09-2004, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
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Fabuleux · 07-09-2004, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MediaTickets
First off Tempest, thank you for providing productive arguments. I understand your concerns and why you may not want to work with a program like ours. I will try my best to respond. However the claims in most of these threads are ridiculous.

a. In order to make that $2000 a day, I bet a lot of your affiliates are tricking the surfer into installing, or even just installing without the surfer getting a chance to say YES or NO.

Answer: In order to get an install without a yes or no we would have to give out an exe. We don?t'; provide this to affiliates. Overall we are extremely aggressive with policing our affiliates and have a full time support staff that deals with any problems affiliates have, or complaints we have from websites. We warn affiliates once and ban them if they repeat an offense.

b. Either you, your company, or your affiliates spam boards like these and post misleading information. One said it was 0.15 a page view and not an install.

Answer: We haven?t even seen a post claiming that people got 15 cents per page view. I don't see how that would be productive for the person saying it, cause it could be proved wrong so easily.

c. Your product is violating the surfer?s right to privacy. i.e. see a above.

Answer: We don?t violate privacy of users anymore than Google tool bar or monster.com. We don?t sell emails etc.

d. the Mediatickets name is already mud and you've made the choice to NOT say what the revenue model is. You get to reap the results. i.e. saying "you can rest assured you don't steal" just won't happen.

Answer: I understand that we have been torn down in these posts. But it should be apparent that people just blurt out these random things with no evidence. Showing that we switch homepages or that we have a toolbar are very basic things that would be easy to prove. That?s what makes some of these claims so ridiculous.

Bottom line, the product itself is what has brought all this about. The product itself is what brings out all the scamming, lying, shady and cheating affiliates. You can say you can't control your affiliate?s blah blah blah... It's the product.

Answer: We won't pull a ?We can?t control the affiliates argument.? But I don't believe we have to. We haven?t even heard a complaint about us switching homepages, or stealing traffic..or stealing sign ups or auto installing etc That is what is so ridiculous about the accusations. I have no idea what these guys are talking about. Toolbars?? stealing traffic and sign ups?? These people are angry about spam the most. I guess this is a form of revenge. The claims are clearly false and anybody who is on GFY should really be offended that people would lie about these things and try to tear down a business. Seriously going out of your way and completely lying is pretty ridiculous.

So you do install spyware right?

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:26 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:32 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verbal
No offense Dre, but that's the UGLIEST banner ever!

I didnt do it ...

Fabuleux · 07-09-2004, 03:34 PM

Can you answer my question MediaTickets?

goBigtime · 07-09-2004, 03:35 PM

edit... nm, yes he did.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:38 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:43 PM

Mike Okitch · 07-09-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fabuleux
So you do install spyware right?

Yes. Yes they do

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:49 PM

07-09-2004, 03:51 PM

Fuck Media Tickets. I get popped with multiple yes/no comment boxes. I've also had the damn thing autoinstall when I was on the submission page of a TGP. Besides this shady practice, You asshole "staff" spammed me everyday for 2 weeks via ICQ despite my countless requests to remove me from their list.

Here's a log:

pepperjac (06:46 PM) :
hey
Sherms Shack (06:46 PM) :
how's it going?
pepperjac (06:46 PM) :
working as always
pepperjac (06:46 PM) :
where you at? boston here
Sherms Shack (06:47 PM) :
las vegas
pepperjac (06:47 PM) :
nice
pepperjac (06:47 PM) :
sin city
pepperjac (06:48 PM) :
just there 2 months ago
pepperjac (06:48 PM) :
so, you run some sites?
Sherms Shack (06:48 PM) :
yup
pepperjac (06:49 PM) :
nice...spend most of my time running program..making other people money
pepperjac (06:50 PM) :
mark here btw
pepperjac (06:51 PM) :
how much traffic you get per day?
Sherms Shack (06:52 PM) :
it varies. It can be anywhere between 150-500k hits a day
pepperjac (06:52 PM) :
nice
pepperjac (06:53 PM) :
i can make you a lot of additional money
Sherms Shack (06:53 PM) :
how so?
pepperjac (06:53 PM) :
my program is called mediatckets and it basically adds money to your site without fucking traffic..also, you can use it with your current sponsors
pepperjac (06:53 PM) :
1 sec
Sherms Shack (06:56 PM) :
i'm not quite understanding wht you're offering.
pepperjac (06:57 PM) :
my program pays per install...you sign up, paste in our code into your site, and users get activeX prompt (you choose how many times to display itand when), users hit yes, and you get paid
pepperjac (06:57 PM) :
4000 installs gets you $600 per day, over $100,000 a year
pepperjac (06:58 PM) :
beauty is, users never see prompt again after accepting ticket, and we don't use crappy shit unlike other programs
Sherms Shack (06:58 PM) :
ok.. i'm sorry man. i'm not doing the active x stuff to surfers. good luck with it though.
pepperjac (06:58 PM) :
you can show it to users on entry OR exit OR on first click
pepperjac (06:59 PM) :
users never see it again after accepting it...and this is additional to any sponsors you have
pepperjac (06:59 PM) :
we have many wm's using this, and doesn't fuck traffic
Sherms Shack (06:59 PM) :
i'm sorry man.. i'm not interested in that though.
pepperjac (06:59 PM) :
with your traffic, you can bring in an extra $100,000 a year
pepperjac (07:00 PM) :
you can choose to throw it to users on exit traffic,doesn't even show up on your site
Sherms Shack (07:00 PM) :
it's alright. thanks though
pepperjac (07:00 PM) :
try it out for a few hours, we have realtime stats for you, and if you don't like, don't use it....but once you see how much money you will make, you won't stop.
pepperjac (07:01 PM) :
i run this gig, and will personally take care of you, i can pay you anyway you like
Sherms Shack (07:01 PM) :
it's alright man. i have trades to maintain and the second they see that, i lose all my traffic. I'm not in this for the quick buck.
pepperjac (07:01 PM) :
this isnt the quick buck, we have many wm's trading traffic using this
pepperjac (07:01 PM) :
you can choose when to prpompt activeX to users
pepperjac (07:02 PM) :
you can even have it so users go to your site, click on a link and get activeX after clicking first time
Sherms Shack (07:02 PM) :
i'm sorry. the webmasters i trade with are ed webmasters and they don't mess with their surfers like that.
pepperjac (07:02 PM) :
they still get passed to your content or other sponsors
pepperjac (07:02 PM) :
you don't have to use it on entry or exit, use it on first click on yoursite then..doesn't affect trades
pepperjac (07:03 PM) :
10,000 installs gets you $1,500 a day
Sherms Shack (07:03 PM) :
it's really alright. i can't mess with my bookmarkers. good luck though. i have to get back to work.
pepperjac (07:03 PM) :
bookmarkers NEver see ticket again..they only see it once
pepperjac (07:03 PM) :
that's why this works
pepperjac (07:04 PM) :
try it for an hour, if you don't like it, take it down..i can set you up in 30 secs
Sherms Shack (07:04 PM) :
it's really alright... i'm making plenty with my current sponsers and my own affiliate program. thanks though.
pepperjac (07:05 PM) :
that's great..but you can double up on your money with us...we are a new program so you can capatilize on all your users with us, it's fresh....and use my program with yours
pepperjac (07:06 PM) :
whatever sponsors you have, this will only add money to you... and it's fresh program...you really can make some serious cash
Sherms Shack (07:07 PM) :
please.. it's alright. i'm going to have to pass on this offer. i need to get back to work now.
pepperjac (07:07 PM) :
well, thanksfor talking.
Sherms Shack (07:07 PM) :
no problem. good luck.
pepperjac (07:08 PM) :
if you wanna hit me up anytime, feel free...i just don't know how to stress to try it out, you will make serious cash
pepperjac (07:08 PM) :
want my link in case
Sherms Shack (07:08 PM) :
it's alright. thanks anyways. good luck.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 03:55 PM

Lauren · 07-09-2004, 03:57 PM

hey Doctor dre this one's for you

Tempest · 07-09-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MediaTickets
a. In order to make that $2000 a day, I bet a lot of your affiliates are tricking the surfer into installing, or even just installing without the surfer getting a chance to say YES or NO.

Answer: In order to get an install without a yes or no we would have to give out an exe. We don?t'; provide this to affiliates. Overall we are extremely aggressive with policing our affiliates and have a full time support staff that deals with any problems affiliates have, or complaints we have from websites. We warn affiliates once and ban them if they repeat an offense.

I've read the info on your site as well as the terms. From what I can tell, I can put up a link that says "Download Paris Hilton Getting Ass Fucked!!! Click "YES" When Asked!!!" and that would be acceptable. The software would install and just "sit" there.. Doing what, we don't know.. and based on the info from your site, you can do anything that strikes your fantasy. It pretty much says that in the terms. That's just one of the reasons why so many people "hate" your program.

Quote:

Originally posted by MediaTickets
b. Either you, your company, or your affiliates spam boards like these and post misleading information. One said it was 0.15 a page view and not an install.

Answer: We haven?t even seen a post claiming that people got 15 cents per page view. I don't see how that would be productive for the person saying it, cause it could be proved wrong so easily.

You can go over in the WM Q&A section to read some of the "spam" posts. There's been claims of $0.50 a download The "0.15" a page view one I remember seeing and responded to a week or so ago.

Quote:

Originally posted by MediaTickets
We haven?t even heard a complaint about us switching homepages, or stealing traffic..or stealing sign ups or auto installing etc

I don't know if any of the claims are true or not. But your terms say that you "could' do those types of things.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:01 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:07 PM

kenny · 07-09-2004, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MediaTickets
This is actually quite amusing. We can all start counting the number of people who bumb with no evidence. You guys are great. Very mature. You really help your argument Quatermain...dre...jennie.. no evidence ...hmmm

bumb

MediaTickets

What kind of information is being sold by Media Tickets? It must be valuable information if you can afford to pay affilates that much per surfer and still turn a profit from selling information.

I have no idea about selling or buying information.

Who buys this information? What kind of information is it?

What does Micket Tickets do for the surfer?

What makes the surfer want to have it installed?

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:11 PM

I dont remember who but they started calling out somebody after he said he didnt wanna use them . They were like : You aiint got no traffic ...

Great post once again sherm.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:13 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:19 PM

MattO · 07-09-2004, 04:23 PM

The mediatickets autoinstaller infects your computer with spyware, including their company's PurityScan popup trojan which along with other bullshit it installs completely makes your surfing experience hell.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:24 PM

Fabuleux · 07-09-2004, 04:26 PM

The mediatickets autoinstaller infects your computer with spyware!

Jizar II · 07-09-2004, 04:27 PM

Bump..

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:29 PM

Vitasoy · 07-09-2004, 04:31 PM

Nasty ass spyware

kenny · 07-09-2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattO
The mediatickets autoinstaller infects your computer with spyware, including their company's PurityScan popup trojan which along with other bullshit it installs completely makes your surfing experience hell.

I like how they put it so nice on their website.

5) How can MediaTickets pay out so much money?

"The majority of money we have received from major investors is going as payouts to website owners. Upon establishing MediaTickets on the web, the companies that made these investments plan to use the MediaTickets technology to give web surfers the option of downloading user friendly services. For example, in the future a user could have the ability to receive an e-mail spam stopper or a game when they click "Yes" on their MediaTickets. Like most great business models MediaTickets creates a relationship between multiple parties with positives for everyone involved. Both website owners and their traffic are better off with MediaTickets than they would be without it. That simple reason is why MediaTickets is rapidly spreading on Internet sites across the world. It makes website owners money without charging their surfers anything, and leaves their surfers happier than they would be without MediaTickets. "

nastyking · 07-09-2004, 04:35 PM

the google toolbar (with PR feature enabled) is spyware

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:35 PM

kenny · 07-09-2004, 04:37 PM

We still need direct evidence of the affilate code hijacking.

We all know there is spyware that does that. But I have yet to see it directly linked to any one program/company.

In the near future I plan on running test by infecting a computer with spywares. I really want to see affilate URL hijacking for myself.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:41 PM

nofx · 07-09-2004, 04:41 PM

where is some proof? screen shots?

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:47 PM

kenny · 07-09-2004, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nofx
where is some proof? screen shots?

It is no doubt spyware or a trogan that aids spyware companies.

http://www.mediatickets.net/faq.php

"The majority of money we have received from major investors is going as payouts to website owners. Upon establishing MediaTickets on the web, the companies that made these investments plan to use the MediaTickets technology to give web surfers the option of downloading user friendly services. For example, in the future a user could have the ability to receive an e-mail spam stopper or a game when they click "Yes" on their MediaTickets. Like most great business models MediaTickets creates a relationship between multiple parties with positives for everyone involved. Both website owners and their traffic are better off with MediaTickets than they would be without it. That simple reason is why MediaTickets is rapidly spreading on Internet sites across the world. It makes website owners money without charging their surfers anything, and leaves their surfers happier than they would be without MediaTickets. "

I dont condone hijacking any computer. In fact I hate it with a passion. I just dont see the link between affilate code hijacking and media tickets.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
the google toolbar (with PR feature enabled) is spyware

But you KNOW whats getting installed on your computer ... its not getting auto installed with another software or a misleading link

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 04:53 PM

kenny · 07-09-2004, 05:02 PM

Both website owners and their traffic are better off with MediaTickets than they would be without it.

Surfers love us. Don't just take our word for it.

"Everytime I go online I have a exciting new toolbar waiting for me" -Surfer

"My old homepage was so boring.. thanks to media tickets I no longer have to worry about that" -surfer

"My bookmarkers can't get enough of the Active X popups"
-Webmaster

"Surfing the web use to be so lame. Now that I have media tickets surfing has became a unpredictable adventure!"
-Surfer

"The ladies are so impressed with the amount of popups I get.. thank you Media Tickets!"
-Surfer

BlueQuartz · 07-09-2004, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny

I dont condone hijacking any computer. In fact I hate it with a passion. I just dont see the link between affilate code hijacking and media tickets. [/B]

I feel the same way - i just dont there is any link between MT and link hijacking - sure the spyware claims are correct but thats about it.

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 05:02 PM

Mike Okitch · 07-09-2004, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shermsshack
pepperjac (07:01 PM) :
i run this gig, and will personally take care of you, i can pay you anyway you like

So he runs this gig?

Or is it just some lowlife spammer who wants to be big?

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 05:09 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-09-2004, 05:16 PM

07-09-2004, 03:34 PM	#113
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07-09-2004, 03:35 PM	#114
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07-09-2004, 03:57 PM	#121
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07-09-2004, 04:26 PM	#131
Fabuleux Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,543	The mediatickets autoinstaller infects your computer with spyware! __________________

07-09-2004, 04:31 PM	#134
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Nasty ass spyware __________________ [email protected]

07-09-2004, 03:09 PM	#103
Verbal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,420	No offense Dre, but that's the UGLIEST banner ever!

07-09-2004, 03:17 PM	#106
MediaTickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 34	First off Tempest, thank you for providing productive arguments. I understand your concerns and why you may not want to work with a program like ours. I will try my best to respond. However the claims in most of these threads are ridiculous. a. In order to make that $2000 a day, I bet a lot of your affiliates are tricking the surfer into installing, or even just installing without the surfer getting a chance to say YES or NO. Answer: In order to get an install without a yes or no we would have to give out an exe. We don?t'; provide this to affiliates. Overall we are extremely aggressive with policing our affiliates and have a full time support staff that deals with any problems affiliates have, or complaints we have from websites. We warn affiliates once and ban them if they repeat an offense. b. Either you, your company, or your affiliates spam boards like these and post misleading information. One said it was 0.15 a page view and not an install. Answer: We haven?t even seen a post claiming that people got 15 cents per page view. I don't see how that would be productive for the person saying it, cause it could be proved wrong so easily. c. Your product is violating the surfer?s right to privacy. i.e. see a above. Answer: We don?t violate privacy of users anymore than Google tool bar or monster.com. We don?t sell emails etc. d. the Mediatickets name is already mud and you've made the choice to NOT say what the revenue model is. You get to reap the results. i.e. saying "you can rest assured you don't steal" just won't happen. Answer: I understand that we have been torn down in these posts. But it should be apparent that people just blurt out these random things with no evidence. Showing that we switch homepages or that we have a toolbar are very basic things that would be easy to prove. That?s what makes some of these claims so ridiculous. Bottom line, the product itself is what has brought all this about. The product itself is what brings out all the scamming, lying, shady and cheating affiliates. You can say you can't control your affiliate?s blah blah blah... It's the product. Answer: We won't pull a ?We can?t control the affiliates argument.? But I don't believe we have to. We haven?t even heard a complaint about us switching homepages, or stealing traffic..or stealing sign ups or auto installing etc That is what is so ridiculous about the accusations. I have no idea what these guys are talking about. Toolbars?? stealing traffic and sign ups?? These people are angry about spam the most. I guess this is a form of revenge. The claims are clearly false and anybody who is on GFY should really be offended that people would lie about these things and try to tear down a business. Seriously going out of your way and completely lying is pretty ridiculous.

07-09-2004, 04:23 PM	#129
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07-09-2004, 04:27 PM	#132
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	Bump..

07-09-2004, 04:35 PM	#136
nastyking Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,174	the google toolbar (with PR feature enabled) is spyware __________________

07-09-2004, 04:37 PM	#138
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	We still need direct evidence of the affilate code hijacking. We all know there is spyware that does that. But I have yet to see it directly linked to any one program/company. In the near future I plan on running test by infecting a computer with spywares. I really want to see affilate URL hijacking for myself.

07-09-2004, 04:41 PM	#140
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07-09-2004, 05:02 PM	#145
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Both website owners and their traffic are better off with MediaTickets than they would be without it. Surfers love us. Don't just take our word for it. "Everytime I go online I have a exciting new toolbar waiting for me" -Surfer "My old homepage was so boring.. thanks to media tickets I no longer have to worry about that" -surfer "My bookmarkers can't get enough of the Active X popups" -Webmaster "Surfing the web use to be so lame. Now that I have media tickets surfing has became a unpredictable adventure!" -Surfer "The ladies are so impressed with the amount of popups I get.. thank you Media Tickets!" -Surfer