10 reasons why you shouldn't use this or that program - GoFuckYourself.com

SleazyDream · 07-18-2004, 11:46 PM

i have a philosophy regarding online adult business, and it kinda goes like this.

1. if someone or a program has to tell you they are honest they usually arn't.

2. endorsements from emloyees of a program are WORTHLESS, and companies that encourage people to post as such have no class.

3. references ARE NOT having another employee contact you from the same company. References must be people KNOWN by the person already or they are worthless. SOOOO few people GET this. Woop de fucking do billy bob uses that company, who the fuck is billy bob?

4. Everyone shaves, i don't care WHO you're talking about - some sales don't get counted - whether it's by accident or design, it happens, get over it and stop saying you don't shave.

5. Hosted galleries shouldn't redirect or install anything - those that do these tricks arn't worth doing business with. That INCLUDES geo targeting on the gallery, not the paysite link. YES - we know. Soon I may be posting names too if it keeps happening to clients of mine that use hosted galleries and buy pre-paid spots with them.

6. just cause i met you doen't mean i'm now gona be nice to you on the boards. Just cause you biught my sig doesn't mean i'm gona endorse you in my posting.

7. the hotter the sales rep - the more useless the program and the more likly they will shave you or fuck you somehow. esp those that hop into the sac with you readily - although i must admit - i DO love those programs. I'll never use them, but i LOVE them for trying....

8. if you see top company execs posting to gfy a lot then they arn't working on your acohahahaha. Think about it.

9. ccbill, epoch, and others arn't the reason the company fucked up on stats the other day and didn't count the sales- we KNOW that - duuuu.

10. You're all idiots

49thParallel · 07-18-2004, 11:49 PM

Well...I won't promote Playboycash for the same reasons I wouldn't promote AdultPlayersClub (see my other thread today).

Any other questions.....

psyko514 · 07-18-2004, 11:50 PM

nice post

especially the part about the programs who think having hot sales reps will make em a ton of cash.

galleryseek · 07-18-2004, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

6. just cause i met you doen't mean i'm now gona be nice to you on the boards.

oh boo hoo!!!!! there's actually people who care? LOL

baddog · 07-18-2004, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
8. if you see top company execs posting to gfy a lot then they arn't working on your acohahahaha. Think about it.

what is "acohahahaha?" I thought it was account, but that doesn't haha for me, so really interested in what that word is.

andrej_NDC · 07-18-2004, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
some sales don't get counted - whether it's by accident or design, it happens, get over it and stop saying you don't shave.

thats not shaving, thats a bug

psyko514 · 07-18-2004, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
what is "acohahahaha?" I thought it was account, but that doesn't haha for me, so really interested in what that word is.

he most likely misspelled account as acocunt and the word cunt is a banned termed.

SleazyDream · 07-18-2004, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
what is "acohahahaha?" I thought it was account, but that doesn't haha for me, so really interested in what that word is.

it was account - don't know why it did that?

p1mpdogg · 07-18-2004, 11:56 PM

believe 10% of what he says, then you should be ok... his logic is slightly fucked up.

SleazyDream · 07-18-2004, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrej_NDC
thats not shaving, thats a bug

shaver

SleazyDream · 07-18-2004, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
believe 10% of what he says, then you should be ok... his logic is slightly fucked up.

reread #1

baddog · 07-18-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
he most likely misspelled account as acocunt and the word cunt is a banned termed.

very good, I bet you are right

p1mpdogg · 07-19-2004, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
reread #1

you got something to say? say it.

Pornwolf · 07-19-2004, 12:01 AM

I agree with all but one line.

baddog · 07-19-2004, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
it was account - don't know why it did that?

okay, then I guess I am at a loss, what kind of "work" do you expect done on your account? The script counts the hits and sales, the accountant prints out the checks . . . is there something I am missing?

galleryseek · 07-19-2004, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
you got something to say? say it.

i do tough guy. you're gay.

Paul Markham · 07-19-2004, 12:02 AM

Good post.

censored · 07-19-2004, 12:06 AM

tyvm, Sleazy.

Serge Litehead · 07-19-2004, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I agree with all but one line.

would be nice if #4 wasn't true.

emthree · 07-19-2004, 12:23 AM

How do you feel about
1) Webmasters searching for programs that offer free hosting.
2) Programs that offer free hosting.

I understand certain spots will shoot your bill skyhigh, mgp included. But wtf? How productive can a freeloading webmaster be, esp the ones who cannot pay for hosting. Certain programs like to go the extra length to gain webmasters, but what's the point when you have 100s of unproductive webmasters. The productive worth while webmasters are probably all searching for the best converting, not the programs who throw themselves out there to be whored out.

excuse my rant - just seen one too many "free hosting needed" posts

sheldonjuan · 07-19-2004, 12:29 AM

do you have a list of sleazydream approved sponsors?

SleazyDream · 07-19-2004, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sheldonjuan
do you have a list of sleazydream approved sponsors?

i should do this, and just to make it funny - charge people to get their site listed on that

p1mpdogg · 07-19-2004, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i should do this, and just to make it funny - charge people to get their site listed on that

id pay you 30 dollars

Babagirls · 07-19-2004, 12:41 AM

"....Woop de fucking do billy bob uses that company, who the fuck is billy bob?"
---------------------------

emthree · 07-19-2004, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sheldonjuan
do you have a list of sleazydream approved sponsors?

1) Pibcash

andrej_NDC · 07-19-2004, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
shaver

I dont need to, Im not paying per SU

ClamSmacker · 07-19-2004, 01:46 AM

Yabba Dabba Dooo,
I just passed through,
And left you a heap of poo!

hova · 07-19-2004, 02:01 AM

nice post!

IPK · 07-19-2004, 02:46 AM

I read what you said but all I remember is, "WAAAAAH WAAAAAH WAAAAAH

"

emmanuelle · 07-19-2004, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

7. the hotter the sales rep - the more useless the program and the more likly they will shave you or fuck you somehow. esp those that hop into the sac with you readily - although i must admit - i DO love those programs. I'll never use them, but i LOVE them for trying....

9. ccbill, epoch, and others arn't the reason the company fucked up on stats the other day and didn't count the sales- we KNOW that - duuuu.

I love these two!
(I disagree with 8 though, and 10 is subjective)

Fabuleux · 07-19-2004, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
10. You're all idiots

Homo

I like rule no. 7

emmanuelle · 07-19-2004, 06:48 AM

Dont forget the sales reps who show their tits at every opportunity!

EviLGuY · 07-19-2004, 06:53 AM

You know what has always annoyed me about most programs? How almost no program will carry your webmaster referral link through on anyone clicking on the "webmasters" link on a paysite you send traffic to..

Just one of the many small ways programs screw you.

slapass · 07-19-2004, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i have a philosophy regarding online adult business, and it kinda goes like this.

1. if someone or a program has to tell you they are honest they usually arn't.

2. endorsements from emloyees of a program are WORTHLESS, and companies that encourage people to post as such have no class.

3. references ARE NOT having another employee contact you from the same company. References must be people KNOWN by the person already or they are worthless. SOOOO few people GET this. Woop de fucking do billy bob uses that company, who the fuck is billy bob?

4. Everyone shaves, i don't care WHO you're talking about - some sales don't get counted - whether it's by accident or design, it happens, get over it and stop saying you don't shave.

5. Hosted galleries shouldn't redirect or install anything - those that do these tricks arn't worth doing business with. That INCLUDES geo targeting on the gallery, not the paysite link. YES - we know. Soon I may be posting names too if it keeps happening to clients of mine that use hosted galleries and buy pre-paid spots with them.

6. just cause i met you doen't mean i'm now gona be nice to you on the boards. Just cause you biught my sig doesn't mean i'm gona endorse you in my posting.

7. the hotter the sales rep - the more useless the program and the more likly they will shave you or fuck you somehow. esp those that hop into the sac with you readily - although i must admit - i DO love those programs. I'll never use them, but i LOVE them for trying....

8. if you see top company execs posting to gfy a lot then they arn't working on your acohahahaha. Think about it.

9. ccbill, epoch, and others arn't the reason the company fucked up on stats the other day and didn't count the sales- we KNOW that - duuuu.

10. You're all idiots

Weird, I just send traffic the company that pays me the most. neat to see you don't need to care about that.

emmanuelle · 07-19-2004, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EviLGuY
You know what has always annoyed me about most programs? How almost no program will carry your webmaster referral link through on anyone clicking on the "webmasters" link on a paysite you send traffic to..

Just one of the many small ways programs screw you.

Your cookie is carried through with ccbill sponsors

TheSenator · 07-19-2004, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

1. if someone or a program has to tell you they are honest they usually arn't.

I learned this lesson the hardway. I rather have a company shave a percent upfront so that I know what I am getting into.

I stay clear from programs that claim "honesty".

Peaches · 07-19-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
5. Hosted galleries shouldn't redirect or install anything - those that do these tricks arn't worth doing business with. That INCLUDES geo targeting on the gallery, not the paysite link. YES - we know. Soon I may be posting names too if it keeps happening to clients of mine that use hosted galleries and buy pre-paid spots with them.

Understand that I have the technical knowledge of my dogs, but is it possible to "selectively" geo target? I would think if you geo targeting domains and/or IP's then they would have to be done accross the board: the sites, galleries, webmaster sign up, etc.......???

fris · 07-19-2004, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
you got something to say? say it.

cockgoggles finally read the FAQ how to do a sig

Reak · 07-19-2004, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i have a philosophy regarding online adult business, and it kinda goes like this.

2. endorsements from emloyees of a program are WORTHLESS, and companies that encourage people to post as such have no class.

You're such a idiot.

Posting on GFY has nothing to do with the business of a person.

AmeliaG · 07-19-2004, 08:12 AM

re #8, I think I'm below the a lot level

re #7, anyone you'd recommend

Biggy2 · 07-19-2004, 08:13 AM

those of you who think sleazy is far off the mark, i have news for you -- he isn't.

http · 07-19-2004, 08:15 AM

- dialer pop-ups on "console-free" links, for european "third world" traffic that just cannot be billed by CC, really they just don't have cards, the ongoing myth that some sponsors love so much

- little links at the bottom that lead to the site's home page with 2 clicks max, and no wm ID passed through. Support, members, 2257, and from there it goes to the home page, no WM ID

- HUGE URLs on the banners PLUS the links on the hosted galleries PLUS on the pics and movies. It's TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com, remember TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com, click here to go to TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com (or just type it in wink wink)

- 2 or 3 cross sales PRE-checked on the signup form and really small letters. Surfer sees this, confidence is lost and so is the potential sale

TheLegacy · 07-19-2004, 09:04 AM

very wise words sleazy - and those who disagree with you are probably part of those companies you mention, or are good friends of someone who is in that company.

not too many would have the guts to speak out like this.

TheLegacy · 07-19-2004, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
You're such a idiot.

Posting on GFY has nothing to do with the business of a person.

so is this a resource board?? an industry board?? or open to the public??

GFY has everything to do with your business if your in the industry.

emmanuelle · 07-19-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by http
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- little links at the bottom that lead to the site's home page with 2 clicks max, and no wm ID passed through. Support, members, 2257, and from there it goes to the home page, no WM ID

- HUGE URLs on the banners PLUS the links on the hosted galleries PLUS on the pics and movies. It's TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com, remember TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com, click here to go to TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com (or just type it in wink wink)

You're not making any sense. Once you've sent the surfer to the page or hosted gallery, your ccbill cookie is in their browser already. You will receive credit.

http · 07-19-2004, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
You're not making any sense. Once you've sent the surfer to the page or hosted gallery, your ccbill cookie is in their browser already. You will receive credit.

There is a world beyond ccbill cookies. Strange, I know

cherrylula · 07-19-2004, 09:12 AM

very true

dropped9 · 07-19-2004, 09:15 AM

Interesting theories...

SleazyDream · 07-19-2004, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Weird, I just send traffic the company that pays me the most. neat to see you don't need to care about that.

not always smart when dealing with bookmark traffic. i'd rather make a dollar every month for 10 years then 2 dollars a month for 2 months and burn off my surfers

Quotealex · 07-19-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EviLGuY
You know what has always annoyed me about most programs? How almost no program will carry your webmaster referral link through on anyone clicking on the "webmasters" link on a paysite you send traffic to..

Just one of the many small ways programs screw you.

Not to mention tour pages with a those "free daily pics" email boxe at the botom of the first page and other traffic leaks...

07-18-2004, 11:50 PM	#3
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07-18-2004, 11:56 PM	#9
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07-19-2004, 12:01 AM	#14
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07-19-2004, 12:02 AM	#17
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07-19-2004, 12:06 AM	#18
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07-18-2004, 11:46 PM	#1
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	10 reasons why you shouldn't use this or that program i have a philosophy regarding online adult business, and it kinda goes like this. 1. if someone or a program has to tell you they are honest they usually arn't. 2. endorsements from emloyees of a program are WORTHLESS, and companies that encourage people to post as such have no class. 3. references ARE NOT having another employee contact you from the same company. References must be people KNOWN by the person already or they are worthless. SOOOO few people GET this. Woop de fucking do billy bob uses that company, who the fuck is billy bob? 4. Everyone shaves, i don't care WHO you're talking about - some sales don't get counted - whether it's by accident or design, it happens, get over it and stop saying you don't shave. 5. Hosted galleries shouldn't redirect or install anything - those that do these tricks arn't worth doing business with. That INCLUDES geo targeting on the gallery, not the paysite link. YES - we know. Soon I may be posting names too if it keeps happening to clients of mine that use hosted galleries and buy pre-paid spots with them. 6. just cause i met you doen't mean i'm now gona be nice to you on the boards. Just cause you biught my sig doesn't mean i'm gona endorse you in my posting. 7. the hotter the sales rep - the more useless the program and the more likly they will shave you or fuck you somehow. esp those that hop into the sac with you readily - although i must admit - i DO love those programs. I'll never use them, but i LOVE them for trying.... 8. if you see top company execs posting to gfy a lot then they arn't working on your acohahahaha. Think about it. 9. ccbill, epoch, and others arn't the reason the company fucked up on stats the other day and didn't count the sales- we KNOW that - duuuu. 10. You're all idiots __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

07-18-2004, 11:49 PM	#2
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Well...I won't promote Playboycash for the same reasons I wouldn't promote AdultPlayersClub (see my other thread today). Any other questions.....

07-19-2004, 12:23 AM	#20
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	How do you feel about 1) Webmasters searching for programs that offer free hosting. 2) Programs that offer free hosting. I understand certain spots will shoot your bill skyhigh, mgp included. But wtf? How productive can a freeloading webmaster be, esp the ones who cannot pay for hosting. Certain programs like to go the extra length to gain webmasters, but what's the point when you have 100s of unproductive webmasters. The productive worth while webmasters are probably all searching for the best converting, not the programs who throw themselves out there to be whored out. excuse my rant - just seen one too many "free hosting needed" posts __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

07-19-2004, 12:29 AM	#21
sheldonjuan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 875	do you have a list of sleazydream approved sponsors? __________________ fuck it, I dont need a sig!

07-19-2004, 12:41 AM	#24
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07-19-2004, 01:46 AM	#27
ClamSmacker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oztralia Posts: 677	Yabba Dabba Dooo, I just passed through, And left you a heap of poo!

07-19-2004, 02:01 AM	#28
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07-19-2004, 02:46 AM	#29
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07-19-2004, 06:48 AM	#32
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Dont forget the sales reps who show their tits at every opportunity!

07-19-2004, 06:53 AM	#33
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	You know what has always annoyed me about most programs? How almost no program will carry your webmaster referral link through on anyone clicking on the "webmasters" link on a paysite you send traffic to.. Just one of the many small ways programs screw you.

07-19-2004, 08:12 AM	#40
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,571	re #8, I think I'm below the a lot level re #7, anyone you'd recommend __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

07-19-2004, 08:13 AM	#41
Biggy2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,821	those of you who think sleazy is far off the mark, i have news for you -- he isn't.

07-19-2004, 08:15 AM	#42
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	- dialer pop-ups on "console-free" links, for european "third world" traffic that just cannot be billed by CC, really they just don't have cards, the ongoing myth that some sponsors love so much - little links at the bottom that lead to the site's home page with 2 clicks max, and no wm ID passed through. Support, members, 2257, and from there it goes to the home page, no WM ID - HUGE URLs on the banners PLUS the links on the hosted galleries PLUS on the pics and movies. It's TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com, remember TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com, click here to go to TYPE-IT-IN-ALREADY.com (or just type it in wink wink) - 2 or 3 cross sales PRE-checked on the signup form and really small letters. Surfer sees this, confidence is lost and so is the potential sale

07-19-2004, 09:04 AM	#43
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 17,176	very wise words sleazy - and those who disagree with you are probably part of those companies you mention, or are good friends of someone who is in that company. not too many would have the guts to speak out like this. __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

07-19-2004, 09:12 AM	#47
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	very true

07-19-2004, 09:15 AM	#48
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Interesting theories...